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Puddles

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Oct 3, 2008, 11:14:03 PM10/3/08
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I WANT CONFUSED TO LAUGH
I WANT CONFUSED TO POST 1000 POSTS
I WANT CONFUSED TO SEE THAT SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO EVERYONE HERE
I WANT CONFUSED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE LIKE HERS
I WANT CONFUSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT 'THIS' IS OK
I want her to be able to get the anger out
i wish her peace and laughter and hoping that the mean words go away soon.
i wish she knew how beautiful shay is
i wish i could arm wrestle confused because she can be a fierce wolverine
(and i want to see her prove it!)
I wish I could go to river with confused and pup
I hope confused can open her heart tonight
and tell me what what it is that is uneasy.

ok, done ranting. (for now)
--

Puddles
(I rant, therefore I am)

Puddles

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Oct 3, 2008, 11:15:43 PM10/3/08
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have to go for a sec. boys! brb

confused

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Oct 3, 2008, 11:20:13 PM10/3/08
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you want a rant? fine (laungage, anger)

s
p
o
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l
e
r
e
d

h
e
r
e

you are a stupid worthless hore. slut worthless little shit. you deserve to
suffer. you deserve every bit of crap that happens. go away. get out of this
body. I will find a way to get rid of you. it's your fault you are
disgusting. die. if I have to kill us to get rid of you I will. you are a
disgusting dirty stupid little shit.

puddles you don't see what we are really like you don't know. you don't
understand. stupid worthless lazy. we can't even take care of pup. we sit
here in this dirty disgusting house feeling sorry for our self. we deserve
the dirty. we are dirty. we can't be fixed. we don't deserve to be fixe.d

you want the mean words to go away? never will happen.


Puddles

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Oct 3, 2008, 11:52:58 PM10/3/08
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Strange, i was thinking of things today to say to t. Things to 'help'
him believe that I really AM a bad person. I just can't get him to say
or agree in anyway. I am constantly trying to convince him that I am a
bad person.

Just like t refuses to believe it in me, I refuse to believe it in you
cause I can tell by all of your honesty, caring, openness and sharing
that you are NOT a bad person.

I think that I know lots about you and from what I know, you aren't
these things that you (or the perp) continue to repeat. You just aren't.

Believe in yourself, you have made it this far, not everyone has the
strength that you do to overcome the horror's that you have. You have
very a very talented special gift in your being. You will see it when
you are ready to.

confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:00:27 AM10/4/08
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Puddles wrote:
> I WANT CONFUSED TO LAUGH
> I WANT CONFUSED TO POST 1000 POSTS

too many posts!

> I WANT CONFUSED TO SEE THAT SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO EVERYONE HERE
> I WANT CONFUSED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE LIKE HERS
> I WANT CONFUSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT 'THIS' IS OK
> I want her to be able to get the anger out

think maybe we did

> i wish her peace and laughter and hoping that the mean words go away
> soon. i wish she knew how beautiful shay is
> i wish i could arm wrestle confused because she can be a fierce
> wolverine (and i want to see her prove it!)

now I laughed. you got one of your wants

> I wish I could go to river with confused and pup

oooo... , that would be fun

> I hope confused can open her heart tonight
> and tell me what what it is that is uneasy.
>
> ok, done ranting. (for now)

not much of a rant :P

we are doing better now. thank you. you helped. we cried. guess we needed to
cry.


confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:01:45 AM10/4/08
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we don't really belive you, but thank you.
--
"wolfie" of confused


Puddles

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:01:56 AM10/4/08
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:) we care about you lots.

confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:06:47 AM10/4/08
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:P I think that might be against the rules. it's hard to say though,
gathring was supposed to sort pages

how are you tonight. isn't it really late there?
--
"wolfie" of confused


Puddles

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:08:30 AM10/4/08
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We have never given reason for you to ever 'not' believe the things we
say. we always say the truth here. wonder where astri is? and, i hope
slunky isn't mad at me for my post.

gathring disappeared a little today too. hmmm. i know she has been
really busy.

well, is midnight here and am tired. had big day with t. maybe we will
talk about it tomorrow.

goodnight, and i am so proud of you. we *are 'getting there' right?
where ever that is. have to believe.

nite

Puddles

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:09:48 AM10/4/08
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we stayed up to talk to you. :) already said nite on other thread. sleep
tight.

confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:16:33 AM10/4/08
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astri had t today. she usually doesn't get here till late on fridays. is
possible she won't get on for another couple hours
don't think slunky will be mad.

> gathring disappeared a little today too. hmmm. i know she has been
> really busy.
>

she said she wouldn't be around much this week.

> well, is midnight here and am tired. had big day with t. maybe we will
> talk about it tomorrow.
>

want to here about t. hope it went ok

> goodnight, and i am so proud of you. we *are 'getting there' right?
> where ever that is. have to believe.
>

not sure we did anything for you to be proud over
hope we are getting there. can believe that for you

> nite

nite. sleep gentle
--
"wolfie" of confused


confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 12:18:43 AM10/4/08
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:) you're nice

nite
--
"wolfie" of confused


astri

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Oct 4, 2008, 3:29:40 AM10/4/08
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they won't make things different, either.

-- astri

======================
to email send to astri
======================
at volcano dot org
======================

astri

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Oct 4, 2008, 3:31:09 AM10/4/08
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, confused wrote:

wow

that was powerful, then
(guess we were wrong)

Baba Yaga

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Oct 4, 2008, 6:40:31 AM10/4/08
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Puddles <allthe...@yahoo.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:

>I WANT CONFUSED TO LAUGH
>I WANT CONFUSED TO POST 1000 POSTS
>I WANT CONFUSED TO SEE THAT SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO EVERYONE HERE

Yes.
And we wish the Puddles could. & Cometz, who are also some of our
favourite people. & - well, quite a few people, who we think don't
see how much value they have here. think this is a rare oasis of
givingness.

>I WANT CONFUSED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE LIKE HERS
>I WANT CONFUSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT 'THIS' IS OK
>I want her to be able to get the anger out
>i wish her peace and laughter and hoping that the mean words go away soon.
>i wish she knew how beautiful shay is
>i wish i could arm wrestle confused because she can be a fierce wolverine
>(and i want to see her prove it!)
>I wish I could go to river with confused and pup
>I hope confused can open her heart tonight
>and tell me what what it is that is uneasy.
>
>ok, done ranting. (for now)

nice rant.

Baba Yaga
--
If it's my lot to spend my life swimming upstream in treacle then
goddamn it I'll be the best treacle swimmer there is, and learn to
find things about it to enjoy!
- The Autiste formerly known as Genyin

Baba Yaga

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Oct 4, 2008, 6:54:54 AM10/4/08
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"confused" <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote, in
alt.support.dissociation:

Of course not.
But - we know what we are 'really' like, and we know what we have been
'really' like, and we know what we have believed we're 'really' like,
and we remember the horror of contamination which was us, as we saw
us.
We have words carved in our skin which don't match who you see. We
have - we have been pretty repellent. We have it in us to become
monstrous.

We are not repellent (except, when someone in this body is triggered,
to us), we are not monstrous, we are not contaminating just by
existing, we aren't even the words we carved into our skin. Those are
potentials in us, but they are not more really us than decency and
struggle and kindness and even sometimes humour. Prolly less so,
because we try to cultivate the decency and striggle and kindness and
humour.

Because we know that, and because we see yous doing the same, we don't
believe in the really that you believe in. We think your 'really' is
rather fine.

>understand. stupid worthless lazy. we can't even take care of pup. we sit
>here in this dirty disgusting house feeling sorry for our self. we deserve
>the dirty. we are dirty. we can't be fixed. we don't deserve to be fixe.d
>
>you want the mean words to go away? never will happen.

Maybe when it stops hurting so much. Maybe when you find more
effective words.

astri

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Oct 4, 2008, 2:58:02 PM10/4/08
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Baba Yaga wrote:
> "confused" <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote, in
> alt.support.dissociation:
>

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> understand. stupid worthless lazy. we can't even take care of pup.
>> we sit here in this dirty disgusting house feeling sorry for our
>> self. we deserve the dirty. we are dirty. we can't be fixed. we
>> don't deserve to be fixe.d
>>
>> you want the mean words to go away? never will happen.
>
> Maybe when it stops hurting so much. Maybe when you find more
> effective words.

yes

confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:01:55 PM10/4/08
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heh, was mostly that puddles didn't give up and go away. we didn't like some
of the frou frou stuff so much (sorry puddles). we think maybe the other
part was her hoping the mean words go away.
--
"wolfie" of confused


confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:08:07 PM10/4/08
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Baba Yaga wrote:
> "confused" <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote, in
> alt.support.dissociation:
>
>> Puddles wrote:
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO LAUGH
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO POST 1000 POSTS
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO SEE THAT SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO EVERYONE HERE
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE LIKE HERS
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT 'THIS' IS OK
>>> I want her to be able to get the anger out
>>> i wish her peace and laughter and hoping that the mean words go away
>>> soon. i wish she knew how beautiful shay is
>>> i wish i could arm wrestle confused because she can be a fierce
>>> wolverine (and i want to see her prove it!)
>>> I wish I could go to river with confused and pup
>>> I hope confused can open her heart tonight
>>> and tell me what what it is that is uneasy.
>>>
>>> ok, done ranting. (for now)
>>
>> you want a rant? fine (laungage, anger)

and talk of SI

<sigh> regrets it was that way for you

we don't have words carved in, we have letters that represent the words. and
many of them are burned in. we wouldn't write words because... we didn't
want any chance someone outside could see.


>
> We are not repellent (except, when someone in this body is triggered,
> to us), we are not monstrous, we are not contaminating just by
> existing, we aren't even the words we carved into our skin. Those are
> potentials in us, but they are not more really us than decency and
> struggle and kindness and even sometimes humour. Prolly less so,
> because we try to cultivate the decency and striggle and kindness and
> humour.
>

(reading this makes us hurt)
(think it's a healing/good hurt)

> Because we know that, and because we see yous doing the same, we don't
> believe in the really that you believe in. We think your 'really' is
> rather fine.
>

<sigh>

>> understand. stupid worthless lazy. we can't even take care of pup.
>> we sit here in this dirty disgusting house feeling sorry for our
>> self. we deserve the dirty. we are dirty. we can't be fixed. we
>> don't deserve to be fixe.d
>>
>> you want the mean words to go away? never will happen.
>
> Maybe when it stops hurting so much. Maybe when you find more
> effective words.
>

<sigh> which means we have to let the hurt out so we aren't carrying it
forever in.
--
"wolfie" of confused


confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:09:53 PM10/4/08
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not sure who wrote that. not sure it was oscar. thought it was oscar at
first but now not sure.
--
"wolfie" of confused


astri

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:18:14 PM10/4/08
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what was the frou frou stuff?

> maybe the other part was her hoping the mean words go away.
> --
> "wolfie" of confused

was that the part that helped?
or was it your rant?

astri

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:19:34 PM10/4/08
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, confused wrote:
> Baba Yaga wrote:
>> "confused" <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote, in
>> alt.support.dissociation:
>>>
>>> you want the mean words to go away? never will happen.
>>
>> Maybe when it stops hurting so much. Maybe when you find more
>> effective words.
>>
> <sigh> which means we have to let the hurt out so we aren't carrying
> it forever in.
> --
> "wolfie" of confused

seems so

astri

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:20:15 PM10/4/08
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, confused wrote:

ok

but not sure it matters who?

gathring

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Oct 4, 2008, 6:18:12 PM10/4/08
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(accidentally shredding that page of the rule book) I don't know what
you're talking about

--
“There are two major products that came out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX.
We don't believe this to be a coincidence.” -- Jeremy S. Anderson

jill

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Oct 4, 2008, 9:05:09 PM10/4/08
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In article <F%RFk.1629$pr6....@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,

I think it was either the page that talked about walking up hill both
ways in hip deep snow carrying a cow _or_ the page that talked about
having to learn not to spit into the wind. I never liked that page!

STOMP

Rainbow Colors (Jill, who is NOT NOT NOT studying for a test at the
moment. Nope Nope Nope!!!! STOMP STOMP STOMP)
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing
we are becoming white light.
ji...@tuells.org

Puddles

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Oct 4, 2008, 9:24:12 PM10/4/08
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thank you for this post wolfie. made us feel good.

Puddles

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Oct 4, 2008, 9:26:38 PM10/4/08
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we don't hear that very often.

Puddles

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Oct 4, 2008, 9:48:34 PM10/4/08
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Baba Yaga wrote:
> Puddles <allthe...@yahoo.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:
>
>> I WANT CONFUSED TO LAUGH
>> I WANT CONFUSED TO POST 1000 POSTS
>> I WANT CONFUSED TO SEE THAT SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO EVERYONE HERE
>
> Yes.
> And we wish the Puddles could. & Cometz, who are also some of our
> favourite people. & - well, quite a few people, who we think don't
> see how much value they have here. think this is a rare oasis of
> givingness.

(blushing giggles cause of the way brits write favorite) ty Baba Yaga!

>
>> I WANT CONFUSED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE LIKE HERS
>> I WANT CONFUSED TO UNDERSTAND THAT 'THIS' IS OK
>> I want her to be able to get the anger out
>> i wish her peace and laughter and hoping that the mean words go away soon.
>> i wish she knew how beautiful shay is
>> i wish i could arm wrestle confused because she can be a fierce wolverine
>> (and i want to see her prove it!)
>> I wish I could go to river with confused and pup
>> I hope confused can open her heart tonight
>> and tell me what what it is that is uneasy.
>>
>> ok, done ranting. (for now)
>
> nice rant.
>
> Baba Yaga


--

Puddles

astri

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Oct 4, 2008, 10:11:56 PM10/4/08
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Puddles wrote:
> confused wrote:
>>
>> :) you're nice
>>
>> nite
>> --
>> "wolfie" of confused
>
> we don't hear that very often.

:P

Puddles

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Oct 4, 2008, 10:49:31 PM10/4/08
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what is 'frou frou' stuff? if we don't know what it is then we won't
know that yous don't like it.

confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 11:41:07 PM10/4/08
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ohhh... errr.. the nice stuff. the open your heart and how beautiful shay is
and how nice I am...err.. frou frou! I'm a fierce wolverine


>
>> maybe the other part was her hoping the mean words go away.
>> --
>> "wolfie" of confused
>
> was that the part that helped?
> or was it your rant?
>

yes :P think maybe puddles talking about mean words made me realize they
were maybe just mean words. rant helped too, but we weren't able to rant at
first. we kept deleting.
--
"wolfie" of confused


confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 11:42:12 PM10/4/08
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seems like it matters. dunno. if I knew who maybe could do something about
it. and don't want anyone new popping up!!
--
"wolfie" of confused


confused

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Oct 4, 2008, 11:57:10 PM10/4/08
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:O hey, you can't do that!
--
"wolfie" of confused


astri

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:12:27 AM10/5/08
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ah

>>> maybe the other part was her hoping the mean words go away.
>>> --
>>> "wolfie" of confused
>>
>> was that the part that helped?
>> or was it your rant?
>>
> yes :P think maybe puddles talking about mean words made me realize
> they were maybe just mean words. rant helped too, but we weren't able
> to rant at first. we kept deleting.
> --
> "wolfie" of confused

ok

yay for puddles

astri

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:13:49 AM10/5/08
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oh

understand that
happens sometimes :/

Puddles

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:21:59 AM10/5/08
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yes, and we caught you deleting too!!!!! ok, but can we still use frou
stuff? is kinda who we are sometimes???

confused

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:42:42 AM10/5/08
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ooo, stomping! STOMP STOMP STOMP SQUISH ooooops! don't worry it wasn't the
chicken
--
:o)

Herman


confused

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:43:12 AM10/5/08
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Puddles wrote:
> confused wrote:
>> Puddles wrote:
>>> confused wrote:
>>>> Puddles wrote:
>>>>> confused wrote:

>>>>
>>>>
>>> We have never given reason for you to ever 'not' believe the things
>>> we say. we always say the truth here. wonder where astri is? and, i
>>> hope slunky isn't mad at me for my post.
>>>
>> astri had t today. she usually doesn't get here till late on
>> fridays. is possible she won't get on for another couple hours
>> don't think slunky will be mad.
>>
>>> gathring disappeared a little today too. hmmm. i know she has been
>>> really busy.
>>>
>> she said she wouldn't be around much this week.
>>
>>> well, is midnight here and am tired. had big day with t. maybe we
>>> will talk about it tomorrow.
>>>
>> want to here about t. hope it went ok
>>
>>> goodnight, and i am so proud of you. we *are 'getting there' right?
>>> where ever that is. have to believe.
>>>
>> not sure we did anything for you to be proud over
>> hope we are getting there. can believe that for you
>>
>>> nite
>>
>> nite. sleep gentle
>> --
>> "wolfie" of confused
>>
>>
> thank you for this post wolfie. made us feel good.

:)
--
"wolfie" of confused


confused

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:43:42 AM10/5/08
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need to fix that

hey puddles, guess what?

c'mon guess....

your nice
--
"wolfie" of confused


confused

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:44:59 AM10/5/08
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of course you can use frou frou stuff. is ok to be who you are.
--
"wolfie" of confused


gathring

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Oct 5, 2008, 1:32:49 PM10/5/08
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do what? i don't know what you're talking about. besides, the rule that
says can't do things seems to be missing too.

jill

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Oct 5, 2008, 2:51:30 PM10/5/08
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In article <6kqs8qF...@mid.individual.net>,

*sound of shredder in the background* You can't? Innocently wicked
look

Oops pages 19-72 and 431-568 seem to be mysteriously absent at the
moment *whistling and looking at the ceiling*

Rainbow Colors (Jill)

gathring

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Oct 5, 2008, 2:57:05 PM10/5/08
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(surreptitiously slipping jill a few more pages)

astri

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Oct 5, 2008, 3:16:01 PM10/5/08
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, gathring wrote:
> jill wrote:
>>
>> *sound of shredder in the background* You can't? Innocently wicked
>> look
>>
>> Oops pages 19-72 and 431-568 seem to be mysteriously absent at the
>> moment *whistling and looking at the ceiling*
>>
>> Rainbow Colors (Jill)
>
> (surreptitiously slipping jill a few more pages)

hey, you guys! stop that!

don't you realize we can't have any more judgments if you shred the
whole rule book????????????????

what are people going to do if they can't be judgmental?

*sheesh*

jill

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Oct 5, 2008, 3:40:23 PM10/5/08
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In article <9W6Gk.1705$pr6...@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,

I believe that was on page 68 or 86 or 38 or 83 :) All of those
pages blew away in a really strong wind. I think they are in Nebraska.

As I recall the quote was 'You can't do anything. Wait, you are
reading this, that is something. STOP doing this immediately! Hey,
you are still doing something, you are reading this and laughing. That
is not allowed! Now I'm miffed and piffled and will go sit in a corner
and sulk until you stop doing something.' *grumble grumble annoying
people doing things!*

It was a dumb rule anyway. Once it learns to behave itself and change
it's behaviors to be more socially acceptable it will be allowed back
in the group. I would gladly add it to page 1,074 right next to the
rule that says chocolate is good for your brain, especially if you are
female.

confused

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Oct 5, 2008, 5:46:57 PM10/5/08
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but... but... :O

jill

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Oct 5, 2008, 9:10:38 PM10/5/08
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In article <998Gk.1721$pr6...@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,

*Handing you the massive industrial strength shredder*
Ok, I'll take that half the room and you do this half.

Don't forget the cliff notes!

jill

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Oct 5, 2008, 9:14:57 PM10/5/08
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In article <Pine.BSI.4.64.08...@malasada.lava.net>,

astri <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, gathring wrote:
>> jill wrote:
>>>
>>> *sound of shredder in the background* You can't? Innocently wicked
>>> look
>>>
>>> Oops pages 19-72 and 431-568 seem to be mysteriously absent at the
>>> moment *whistling and looking at the ceiling*
>>>
>>> Rainbow Colors (Jill)
>>
>> (surreptitiously slipping jill a few more pages)
>
>hey, you guys! stop that!
>
>don't you realize we can't have any more judgments if you shred the
>whole rule book????????????????
>
>what are people going to do if they can't be judgmental?
>
>*sheesh*
>
>-- astri

*dumping volumes 4 through 7 in the huge shredder I have hauled into
gathring's living room* I dunno, maybe actually think and talk and
learn and grow? *shocked silence fills the room* Ok, maybe that _was_
out of line of me. *consulting volume 9 addendum q* Nope, it's ok.
Right here is says I'm allowed to make comments like this in the fall
just before it starts to rain or snow.

*passing around munchies and drink* come on everyone we have more to
shred!

Baba Yaga

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Oct 6, 2008, 8:56:19 AM10/6/08
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Puddles <allthe...@yahoo.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:

>Baba Yaga wrote:
>> Puddles <allthe...@yahoo.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:
>>
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO LAUGH
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO POST 1000 POSTS
>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO SEE THAT SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO EVERYONE HERE
>>
>> Yes.
>> And we wish the Puddles could. & Cometz, who are also some of our
>> favourite people. & - well, quite a few people, who we think don't
>> see how much value they have here. think this is a rare oasis of
>> givingness.
>
>(blushing giggles cause of the way brits write favorite) ty Baba Yaga!

Is just truth.

(Colour. Honour. Harbour. Aluminium. Sulphur. Haemoglobin.
Mediaeval. Manoeuvre. Pyjamas. Theatre. Jewellery. Disc.
Programme. Liquorice.

I can be British all day long, if it amuses you.)

Spelling Baba
--
If it's my lot to spend my life swimming upstream in treacle then
goddamn it I'll be the best treacle swimmer there is, and learn to
find things about it to enjoy!
- The Autiste formerly known as Genyin

Baba Yaga

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"confused" <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote, in
alt.support.dissociation:

>Baba Yaga wrote:
>> "confused" <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote, in
>> alt.support.dissociation:
[...]


>>> you want a rant? fine (laungage, anger)
>

>and talk of SI

Whoops, forgot. TY.

>>> s
>>> p
>>> o
>>> i
>>> l
>>> e
>>> r
>>> e
>>> d
>>>
>>> h
>>> e
>>> r
>>> e
>>>
>>> you are a stupid worthless hore. slut worthless little shit. you
>>> deserve to suffer. you deserve every bit of crap that happens. go
>>> away. get out of this body. I will find a way to get rid of you.
>>> it's your fault you are disgusting. die. if I have to kill us to get
>>> rid of you I will. you are a disgusting dirty stupid little shit.
>>>
>>> puddles you don't see what we are really like you don't know. you
>>> don't
>>

>> Of course not.
>> But - we know what we are 'really' like, and we know what we have been
>> 'really' like, and we know what we have believed we're 'really' like,
>> and we remember the horror of contamination which was us, as we saw
>> us.
>> We have words carved in our skin which don't match who you see. We
>> have - we have been pretty repellent. We have it in us to become
>> monstrous.
>
><sigh> regrets it was that way for you

TY.

>we don't have words carved in, we have letters that represent the words. and
>many of them are burned in. we wouldn't write words because... we didn't
>want any chance someone outside could see.

How prudent of you. A pity we never thought of that.

(One thing we remember from maths, a backwards capital E signifies
there exists. Somewhere on us is a backwards capital E with a score
through it. Have some funny things on us.)

>> We are not repellent (except, when someone in this body is triggered,
>> to us), we are not monstrous, we are not contaminating just by
>> existing, we aren't even the words we carved into our skin. Those are
>> potentials in us, but they are not more really us than decency and
>> struggle and kindness and even sometimes humour. Prolly less so,
>> because we try to cultivate the decency and striggle and kindness and
>> humour.
>>
>(reading this makes us hurt)
>(think it's a healing/good hurt)

Regret it hurts.
Hope much for healing for you.

>> Because we know that, and because we see yous doing the same, we don't
>> believe in the really that you believe in. We think your 'really' is
>> rather fine.
>>
><sigh>

Understand is hard to hear, take in, all that. Is o.k. to leave it
until it's more manageable.

>>> understand. stupid worthless lazy. we can't even take care of pup.
>>> we sit here in this dirty disgusting house feeling sorry for our
>>> self. we deserve the dirty. we are dirty. we can't be fixed. we
>>> don't deserve to be fixe.d
>>>
>>> you want the mean words to go away? never will happen.
>>

>> Maybe when it stops hurting so much. Maybe when you find more
>> effective words.
>>
><sigh> which means we have to let the hurt out so we aren't carrying it
>forever in.

Or let enough out, yes.

Is hard. But see yous doing a lot which is hard. Much courage.

Baba Yaga

gathring

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Oct 6, 2008, 11:49:54 AM10/6/08
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heeeeeeeeeeeee. judge this! (dropping a dozen more pages in the shredder)

gathring

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Oct 6, 2008, 11:59:16 AM10/6/08
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i think i'm enjoying shredding the rules way too much. its probably
against some rule to have this much fun. (shredding more rules)

gathring

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Oct 6, 2008, 12:07:01 PM10/6/08
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hey, no fair! there's more on your side of the room than mine! gimmee!

gathring

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Oct 6, 2008, 12:08:30 PM10/6/08
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hey, clear that paper out for a minute, i need to shred some cheese for
quesadillas.

astri

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Oct 6, 2008, 12:11:06 PM10/6/08
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Baba Yaga wrote:

> (Colour. Honour. Harbour. Aluminium. Sulphur. Haemoglobin.
> Mediaeval. Manoeuvre. Pyjamas. Theatre. Jewellery. Disc.
> Programme. Liquorice.
>
> I can be British all day long, if it amuses you.)

does

go right 'head :)

astri

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Oct 6, 2008, 12:12:53 PM10/6/08
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Baba Yaga wrote:

> (One thing we remember from maths, a backwards capital E signifies
> there exists. Somewhere on us is a backwards capital E with a score
> through it. Have some funny things on us.)

we're glad you exist

astri

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Oct 6, 2008, 12:18:34 PM10/6/08
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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, gathring wrote:
> astri wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, gathring wrote:
>>> jill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *sound of shredder in the background* You can't? Innocently wicked
>>>> look
>>>>
>>>> Oops pages 19-72 and 431-568 seem to be mysteriously absent at the
>>>> moment *whistling and looking at the ceiling*
>>>>
>>>> Rainbow Colors (Jill)
>>>
>>> (surreptitiously slipping jill a few more pages)
>>
>> hey, you guys! stop that!
>>
>> don't you realize we can't have any more judgments if you shred the
>> whole rule book????????????????
>>
>> what are people going to do if they can't be judgmental?
>>
>> *sheesh*
>
> heeeeeeeeeeeee. judge this! (dropping a dozen more pages in the
> shredder)

sorry. form was a 6.

gathring

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Oct 6, 2008, 12:25:07 PM10/6/08
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that was just my warm up!

astri

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Oct 6, 2008, 1:56:43 PM10/6/08
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astri looks up from painstakingly taping together shredded pages of the
rule books. astri looks at the shreds. astri looks at the cheese.
astri looks at the shreds.

*ewwwwww*

gathring

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Oct 6, 2008, 3:22:01 PM10/6/08
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hrmph. that'll teach you not to give me compliments!

jill

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Oct 7, 2008, 11:37:33 PM10/7/08
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In article <EIqGk.3501$yr3....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,

*A huge paper fight ensues, with shredded paper and ripped sheets
flying everywhere!*

Hey! A friend of mine once taught my kids a 'lovely' trick. You ball
up little bits of paper and spit them through the straw while waiting
in a restaurant. Try to guess why _I_ never taught my kids this trick!
:P~~~~~~~~~~ *handing all the littles a straw*

jill

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Oct 7, 2008, 11:38:30 PM10/7/08
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In article <1KqGk.3502$yr3....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,

*snork* *coughing beer out of my nose* thanks a lot!

astri

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Oct 7, 2008, 11:39:57 PM10/7/08
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, jill wrote:

> Hey! A friend of mine once taught my kids a 'lovely' trick. You ball
> up little bits of paper and spit them through the straw while waiting
> in a restaurant. Try to guess why _I_ never taught my kids this
> trick!

at least he didn't teach them to *chew* the wads of paper first.

> :P~~~~~~~~~~ *handing all the littles a straw*

<donning poncho>

jill

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Oct 7, 2008, 11:40:21 PM10/7/08
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In article <oBqGk.3496$yr3...@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,

That is referenced in the sub by-laws Ll through Qm. And I quote:
'shredding rules is ok' *unquote*

Really, I did _not_ just make that up! *stomping foot on cheese*

eeewwww

jill

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Oct 7, 2008, 11:42:13 PM10/7/08
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In article <fm2ke4dr0ogfualeo...@4ax.com>,

Baba Yaga <babayaga att phonecoop dott coop> wrote:
>Puddles <allthe...@yahoo.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:
>
>>Baba Yaga wrote:
>>> Puddles <allthe...@yahoo.com> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:
>>>
>>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO LAUGH
>>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO POST 1000 POSTS
>>>> I WANT CONFUSED TO SEE THAT SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO EVERYONE HERE
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>> And we wish the Puddles could. & Cometz, who are also some of our
>>> favourite people. & - well, quite a few people, who we think don't
>>> see how much value they have here. think this is a rare oasis of
>>> givingness.
>>
>>(blushing giggles cause of the way brits write favorite) ty Baba Yaga!
>
>Is just truth.
>
>(Colour. Honour. Harbour. Aluminium. Sulphur. Haemoglobin.
>Mediaeval. Manoeuvre. Pyjamas. Theatre. Jewellery. Disc.
>Programme. Liquorice.
>
>I can be British all day long, if it amuses you.)
>
>Spelling Baba

But I like how you _pronounce_ things more! Aluminium cracks me
up every time I hear it on 'top gear' :)

Oh, btw, I think we spell sulphur the same way. And disc.

See, we aren't as different as we are led to believe *grin*

Wolfie of Confused

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Oct 8, 2008, 4:23:53 PM10/8/08
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heh, not sure it was prudence. especially with the amount of scars we
have on our arm. was instinctual secrecy perhaps?


>
> (One thing we remember from maths, a backwards capital E signifies
> there exists. Somewhere on us is a backwards capital E with a score
> through it. Have some funny things on us.)
>

is sort of amazing, the things we will do

>>> We are not repellent (except, when someone in this body is triggered,
>>> to us), we are not monstrous, we are not contaminating just by
>>> existing, we aren't even the words we carved into our skin. Those are
>>> potentials in us, but they are not more really us than decency and
>>> struggle and kindness and even sometimes humour. Prolly less so,
>>> because we try to cultivate the decency and striggle and kindness and
>>> humour.
>>>
>> (reading this makes us hurt)
>> (think it's a healing/good hurt)
>
> Regret it hurts.
> Hope much for healing for you.
>
>>> Because we know that, and because we see yous doing the same, we don't
>>> believe in the really that you believe in. We think your 'really' is
>>> rather fine.
>>>
>> <sigh>
>
> Understand is hard to hear, take in, all that. Is o.k. to leave it
> until it's more manageable.
>

k

>>>> understand. stupid worthless lazy. we can't even take care of pup.
>>>> we sit here in this dirty disgusting house feeling sorry for our
>>>> self. we deserve the dirty. we are dirty. we can't be fixed. we
>>>> don't deserve to be fixe.d
>>>>
>>>> you want the mean words to go away? never will happen.
>>> Maybe when it stops hurting so much. Maybe when you find more
>>> effective words.
>>>
>> <sigh> which means we have to let the hurt out so we aren't carrying it
>> forever in.
>
> Or let enough out, yes.
>
> Is hard. But see yous doing a lot which is hard. Much courage.
>

meh!!!!

confused

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Oct 8, 2008, 4:24:49 PM10/8/08
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:O

You people have no respect for the rule book!!!

Herman :o)

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Oct 8, 2008, 4:29:42 PM10/8/08
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Woo hoo, this is fun. I want to play! Give me some pages to shred

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Puddles

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a@a.a wrote:
> thanks puddles
>
> that's just what we were going to say : )


yw

gathring

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Oct 11, 2008, 5:11:37 PM10/11/08
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grabbing my bubble machine and fresh batteries, i move to a relatively
quite corner and watch the bubbles.

(i was always one of the kids to get pelted with those damn things)

gathring

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Oct 11, 2008, 5:12:09 PM10/11/08
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no problem, sinus cleansing is one of my specialties.

gathring

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Oct 11, 2008, 5:13:00 PM10/11/08
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ok, but i can't find the reference to not having fun, co could you help
out with that please?

gathring

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Oct 11, 2008, 5:33:02 PM10/11/08
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KKKKKKKKKKey-rect! give the little lady her prize Johnny!

gathring

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Oct 11, 2008, 5:33:49 PM10/11/08
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here, have some cheese instead. i'm still hungry for those quesidillas!

jill

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Oct 11, 2008, 10:33:13 PM10/11/08
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In article <JF8Ik.4989$Ws1...@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>,

*pulling out the scrap of paper that was almost shredded before I
rescued it* It says here '...on alternate months ending in Y.'
Sorry, not much help I guess.

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