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ubiquity

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:39:15 PM11/16/09
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I said inside "Are we going insane?" Someone inside said "No, coping
with insanity just looks insane." :P Think they're right.

and now we're both crying and laughing at the patheticness of me.

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-ubiquity

astri

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:51:58 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, ubiquity wrote:

> I said inside "Are we going insane?" Someone inside said "No, coping
> with insanity just looks insane." :P Think they're right.

they are so right

> and now we're both crying and laughing at the patheticness of me.

is all you can do sometimes

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ubiquity

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Nov 16, 2009, 7:20:38 PM11/16/09
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On 2009-11-16, astri wrote...

> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, ubiquity wrote:
>
>> I said inside "Are we going insane?" Someone inside said "No, coping
>> with insanity just looks insane." :P Think they're right.
>
> they are so right

Ok, good. So we not crazy?

>> and now we're both crying and laughing at the patheticness of me.
>
> is all you can do sometimes

Suppose so. Very tiring. T hasn't called back. We called wife, and now
she's all worried. She wanted to come home early for us. Told her to
just stay at work. Our feet are so cold, even cramping, and we're
wearing shoes, but hands are warm almost tingley. :/

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-ubiquity

astri

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:22:00 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2009, ubiquity wrote:
> On 2009-11-16, astri wrote...
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, ubiquity wrote:
>>
>>> I said inside "Are we going insane?" Someone inside said "No, coping
>>> with insanity just looks insane." :P Think they're right.
>>
>> they are so right
>
> Ok, good. So we not crazy?

think you're dealing with insanity

>>> and now we're both crying and laughing at the patheticness of me.
>>
>> is all you can do sometimes
>
> Suppose so. Very tiring. T hasn't called back. We called wife, and now
> she's all worried. She wanted to come home early for us. Told her to
> just stay at work. Our feet are so cold, even cramping, and we're
> wearing shoes, but hands are warm almost tingley. :/

t will call back eventually

ubiquity

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:28:43 PM11/16/09
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On 2009-11-17, astri wrote...

> On Mon, 17 Nov 2009, ubiquity wrote:
>> On 2009-11-16, astri wrote...
>>> they are so right
>>
>> Ok, good. So we not crazy?
>
> think you're dealing with insanity

Ok.

>>> is all you can do sometimes
>>
>> Suppose so. Very tiring. T hasn't called back. We called wife, and now
>> she's all worried. She wanted to come home early for us. Told her to
>> just stay at work. Our feet are so cold, even cramping, and we're
>> wearing shoes, but hands are warm almost tingley. :/
>
> t will call back eventually

Maybe tomorrow. Is her day off anyways. Maybe we should call the crisis
line in her voicemail message?

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-ubiquity

jill

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:36:06 PM11/16/09
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In article <slrnhg3ol3....@asus.zero>,

ubiquity <ubiq...@cryptobug.com> wrote:
>I said inside "Are we going insane?" Someone inside said "No, coping
>with insanity just looks insane." :P Think they're right.

Yes! Someone inside is very smart :)

>and now we're both crying and laughing at the patheticness of me.
>
>--
> -ubiquity

Nah, not pathetic. Just coping and overwhelmed.

Rainbow Colors (Jill)
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing
we are becoming white light.
ji...@tuells.org

jill

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:45:29 PM11/16/09
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In article <slrnhg3r2m....@asus.zero>,

Here's something to try. Sit quietly and pretend your feet are in a
tub of nice warm water. Maybe close your eyes to really feel how warm
the water is on your feet. Or pretend your feet have on toasty warm
heated socks that are warm and soft.

The point is that you can use biofeedback to increase blo*d flow to
your feet and heat them up. It is a technique used to get rid of
headaches by changing blo*d flow to different parts of your body.

You can also make body parts feel cold by pretending you have them in
cold water or are holding ice in your hands or whatever.

It does take practice so don't expect to get it just right the first
few times you practice. It also takes repeated practice to be
consistent. I once had hour long sessions three times a week for two
months to learn this. I still practice it at home on a regular basis.

cometz

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:00:22 PM11/16/09
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i think that is briiliance. i think you have the right response
(crying and laughing) but it is because you have the capacity for
that understanding that you are so opposite of pathetic. really.
suffering doesn't mean you're pathetic. it means you're hurt. and yet
you still have the capacity to see and know stuff that a lot of people
don't or can't pay attention to.

maybe no one else feels like this but to me knowing that the world is
more insane than sane the less nutz i feel. and the greater my
capacity to care without being destroyed by it.

i think it is when you can't see it but you just feel insane, that's
when you're in trouble.

betsy

astri

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:22:39 AM11/17/09
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have you ever tried it and found it helpful?

russiandolly

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:13:13 AM11/17/09
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On Nov 17, 2:45 am, j...@tuells.org (jill) wrote:
> In article <slrnhg3r2m.1g9.ubiqu...@asus.zero>,

>
>
>
> ubiquity  <ubiqu...@cryptobug.com> wrote:
> >On 2009-11-16, astri wrote...
> >> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, ubiquity wrote:
>
> >>> I said inside "Are we going insane?" Someone inside said "No, coping
> >>> with insanity just looks insane." :P Think they're right.
>
> >> they are so right
>
> >Ok, good. So we not crazy?
>
> >>> and now we're both crying and laughing at the patheticness of me.
>
> >> is all you can do sometimes
>
> >Suppose so. Very tiring. T hasn't called back. We called wife, and now
> >she's all worried. She wanted to come home early for us. Told her to
> >just stay at work. Our feet are so cold, even cramping, and we're
> >wearing shoes, but hands are warm almost tingley. :/
>
> >--
> > -ubiquity
>
> Here's something to try. Sit quietly and pretend your feet are in a
> tub of nice warm water. Maybe close your eyes to really feel how warm
> the water is on your feet. Or pretend your feet have on toasty warm
> heated socks that are warm and soft.
>
> The point is that you can use biofeedback to increase blo*d flow to
> your feet and heat them up. It is a technique used to get rid of
> headaches by changing blo*d flow to different parts of your body.
>

we try doing that!
(well, Afrika encourages us to)
we use it to help headaches

> You can also make body parts feel cold by pretending you have them in
> cold water or are holding ice in your hands or whatever.
>
> It does take practice so don't expect to get it just right the first
> few times you practice. It also takes repeated practice to be
> consistent. I once had hour long sessions three times a week for two
> months to learn this. I still practice it at home on a regular basis.
>
> Rainbow Colors (Jill)
> --
>     ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>      The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing
>                    we are becoming white light.

>                         j...@tuells.org

ubiquity

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:42:21 AM11/18/09
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On 2009-11-17, astri wrote...
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2009, ubiquity wrote:
>> Maybe tomorrow. Is her day off anyways. Maybe we should call the
>> crisis line in her voicemail message?
>
> have you ever tried it and found it helpful?

Haven't ever called this one. None of the others have ever been helpful.
Didn't do it anyways.

--
-ubiquity

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