Pickled Herring Warning (G)
Fred
suggested it was point friendly: This is for "wine sauce."
I used the Complete Food Companion as the basis of my information.
Tonight, looking for a point friendly dinner after an "off the charts
lunch" I saw my bag of bagels and figured, ah, yes, pickled herring.
That led to actually reading its NUTRIENT label to compare to the
book. This is a variety sold at least locally by Costco
120 calories, 5 grams of fat for a drained 1/4 cut which is 2.82
points and more than 5 for the 1/2 cup the book suggests is 2 points.
I apologize if I suckered anyone in but, frankly, having it about
twice a week has not done me harm, I don't think.
So, your choice but after more, if not necessarily, better
information.
Fred
Prairie Roots
Nutrient database and calculating the points myself.
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/measure.pl?15041xyz1500xyzFinfish%2c%20herring%2c%20Atlantic%2c%20pickledxyz
So much for my plan to liberate pickled herring from the Christmas hors
d'oevres tray. It was a nice fantasy while it lasted. (Maybe I'll buy just a
teeny-tiny jar and have some on a whole wheat, fat-free cracker.)
Thanks, Fred, for posting a correction. All is forgiven.
--
Prairie Roots
232/219.5/157
Brenda Hammond
I reach my NAFC goal I'll pull them out and have only ONE!
Brenda
209/193/140
NAFC goal 190
"Fred" <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:jmjf7vc15o77v8idk...@4ax.com...
Fred
they have the palm version. And I thought that I may have downloaded
a dbase but I'm not sure if it did calculations like this online
version you posted.
I have decided to continue to use 2 points until my weigh loss stalls
at or near goal!!! (G) If some day you pass a plump fishy smelling
guy - it will be me.
Prairie Roots
>Is that database available in some useable form on a desktop? I know
>they have the palm version. And I thought that I may have downloaded
>a dbase but I'm not sure if it did calculations like this online
>version you posted.
[PR] If it is, I haven't found it. What I sometimes use is a recipe
calculator I downloaded from http://www.recipecalc.com/. It's shareware: It
costs $24 after 20 days trial use. The built-in database, to which you can
add ingredients, is the National Nutrient database. You still have to
calculate the points after you've looked up an ingredient, but the program
does calculate the nutrient values for any serving size. That's a big help
to math-phobes like me.
>I have decided to continue to use 2 points until my weigh loss stalls
>at or near goal!!! (G)
[PR] If I were logging the hiking and biking miles that you do, I'd use the
WW points too.
>If some day you pass a plump fishy smelling guy - it will be me.
[PR] Is that you?! I think I've sat next to you on the bus commute many
times. Haha!
>On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:57:30 -0600, Prairie Roots
><prairie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Yup, I verified your findings by looking up pickled herring in the National
>>Nutrient database and calculating the points myself.
>>http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/measure.pl?15041xyz1500xyzFinfish%2c%20herring%2c%20Atlantic%2c%20pickledxyz
>>
>>So much for my plan to liberate pickled herring from the Christmas hors
>>d'oevres tray. It was a nice fantasy while it lasted. (Maybe I'll buy just a
>>teeny-tiny jar and have some on a whole wheat, fat-free cracker.)
>>
>>Thanks, Fred, for posting a correction. All is forgiven.
--
Prairie Roots
232/219.5/157
Fred
<prairie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:34:17 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>>Is that database available in some useable form on a desktop? I know
>>they have the palm version. And I thought that I may have downloaded
>>a dbase but I'm not sure if it did calculations like this online
>>version you posted.
>
>[PR] If it is, I haven't found it. What I sometimes use is a recipe
>calculator I downloaded from http://www.recipecalc.com/. It's shareware: It
>costs $24 after 20 days trial use. The built-in database, to which you can
>add ingredients, is the National Nutrient database. You still have to
>calculate the points after you've looked up an ingredient, but the program
>does calculate the nutrient values for any serving size. That's a big help
>to math-phobes like me.
Yes, on Joyce's recommendation, I got some software that is sitting
idle as I sort out my dsl and new wireless network stuff as well as
hiring a new secretary.
>>I have decided to continue to use 2 points until my weigh loss stalls
>>at or near goal!!! (G)
>
>[PR] If I were logging the hiking and biking miles that you do, I'd use the
>WW points too.
Yes, my leader has suggested as long as you are still losing, don't
worry too much. I think I'm down again and will know in about an hour
at my meeting and WI
>>If some day you pass a plump fishy smelling guy - it will be me.
>
>[PR] Is that you?! I think I've sat next to you on the bus commute many
>times. Haha!
Yup, why I don't take the bus - too many like me! (G)
I remember commuting to HS on the NYC subways. It could be real fun
in summer!
Fred
herring lovers of the world
(and I'm also using this message as a jump to see if signatures work
in my news reader program (G))
Fred
219.2/179.4/176
Prairie Roots
>On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:04:23 -0600, Prairie Roots
><prairie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:34:17 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Is that database available in some useable form on a desktop? I know
>>>they have the palm version. And I thought that I may have downloaded
>>>a dbase but I'm not sure if it did calculations like this online
>>>version you posted.
>>
>>[PR] If it is, I haven't found it. What I sometimes use is a recipe
>>calculator I downloaded from http://www.recipecalc.com/. It's shareware: It
>>costs $24 after 20 days trial use. The built-in database, to which you can
>>add ingredients, is the National Nutrient database. You still have to
>>calculate the points after you've looked up an ingredient, but the program
>>does calculate the nutrient values for any serving size. That's a big help
>>to math-phobes like me.
>
>Yes, on Joyce's recommendation, I got some software that is sitting
>idle as I sort out my dsl and new wireless network stuff as well as
>hiring a new secretary.
>
[PR] I've seen Joyce mention something but haven't gotten around to asking.
If you wouldn't mind steering me in the right direction, I'd be interested
in taking a look. My 20-day trial on RecipeCalc hasn't expired, so I haven't
forked over any money yet. I'd sure like to see what else is out there
before I lay down my credit card.
>>>I have decided to continue to use 2 points until my weigh loss stalls
>>>at or near goal!!! (G)
>>
>>[PR] If I were logging the hiking and biking miles that you do, I'd use the
>>WW points too.
>
>Yes, my leader has suggested as long as you are still losing, don't
>worry too much. I think I'm down again and will know in about an hour
>at my meeting and WI
>
>>>If some day you pass a plump fishy smelling guy - it will be me.
>>
>>[PR] Is that you?! I think I've sat next to you on the bus commute many
>>times. Haha!
>
>Yup, why I don't take the bus - too many like me! (G)
>
>I remember commuting to HS on the NYC subways. It could be real fun
>in summer!
[PR] What a kidder! Let me tell you, even -20 deg F can't cover the smell of
overripe MadDog 20/20.
--
Prairie Roots
232/219.5/157
Fred
version from a used software store locally. She has found sites (I
don't have at the moment) for newer versions.
And re: nyc subways. I use to ride them - I remember well.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:13:15 -0600, Prairie Roots
Brenda Hammond
Brenda
209/193/140
NAFC goal 190
"Fred" <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:qk8h7vcjfc12pm178...@4ax.com...
Prairie Roots
>It is commercial but discontinued. MasterCook. I got an older
>version from a used software store locally. She has found sites (I
>don't have at the moment) for newer versions.
[PR] Thanks, I'll do some snooping.
>And re: nyc subways. I use to ride them - I remember well.
[PR] I spent a few days NYC once. I like it better on TV than in person.
--
Prairie Roots
232/219.5/157
jo...@nothere.net
Fred wrote:
> It is commercial but discontinued. MasterCook. I got an older
> version from a used software store locally. She has found sites (I
> don't have at the moment) for newer versions.
I don't think it's discontinued, think it is now marketed by a different company.
I do know it is no longer available in MAC format but you may be able to scrounge
up a copy from ebay. Here's a link to the site I found of the current
manufacturer ... sells the program for $10.
http://www.valusoft.com/products/mastercook.html
Joyce
--
started ww 2/5/02 ---> 228.8/147/150ww goal/140ish personal goal
WW GOAL!!! 2/21/03
total weight loss to date: 81.8 pounds
NAFC website can be found at: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaw179/
jo...@nothere.net
Prairie Roots wrote:
>
> >>[PR] If it is, I haven't found it. What I sometimes use is a recipe
> >>calculator I downloaded from http://www.recipecalc.com/. It's shareware: It
> >>costs $24 after 20 days trial use. The built-in database, to which you can
> >>add ingredients, is the National Nutrient database. You still have to
> >>calculate the points after you've looked up an ingredient, but the program
> >>does calculate the nutrient values for any serving size. That's a big help
> >>to math-phobes like me.
> >
> >Yes, on Joyce's recommendation, I got some software that is sitting
> >idle as I sort out my dsl and new wireless network stuff as well as
> >hiring a new secretary.
> >
> [PR] I've seen Joyce mention something but haven't gotten around to asking.
> If you wouldn't mind steering me in the right direction, I'd be interested
> in taking a look. My 20-day trial on RecipeCalc hasn't expired, so I haven't
> forked over any money yet. I'd sure like to see what else is out there
> before I lay down my credit card.
Hehehe - this place should be paying me for posting their link today. <g>
http://www.valusoft.com/products/mastercook.html
I bought my newest version from ebay, lots available there but for a few bucks
more. Unfortunately, I found valusoft after the fact.
Joyce
Prairie Roots
>
>
>Fred wrote:
>
>> It is commercial but discontinued. MasterCook. I got an older
>> version from a used software store locally. She has found sites (I
>> don't have at the moment) for newer versions.
>
>I don't think it's discontinued, think it is now marketed by a different company.
>I do know it is no longer available in MAC format but you may be able to scrounge
>up a copy from ebay. Here's a link to the site I found of the current
>manufacturer ... sells the program for $10.
>
>http://www.valusoft.com/products/mastercook.html
[PR] After Fred posted the name, I searched and found it at the same place
you're referring to. With a price tag of $9.99, I wondered if it was the
same software since home-grown recipe software apps are running 2-1/2 times
that amount. So thanks for the confirmation that I'd found the right one.
I'll probably spend some time getting acquainted with it this weekend.
--
Prairie Roots
232/219.5/157
Fred
<prairie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:52:09 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>>It is commercial but discontinued. MasterCook. I got an older
>>version from a used software store locally. She has found sites (I
>>don't have at the moment) for newer versions.
>[PR] Thanks, I'll do some snooping.
>
>>And re: nyc subways. I use to ride them - I remember well.
>[PR] I spent a few days NYC once. I like it better on TV than in person.
NYC can be that way. I miss it only occasionally but when I do go
back (very infrequently) I'm kind of shocked and then get into its
rhythm and dynamics and have a blast. But then in some way, it is
home.
jo...@nothere.net
bottom of the post to find it. I have the same problem (seems netscape likes to
poke it in at the bottom regardless as to where you are typing). I solved it by
cutting and pasting it up where I want it. How's that for a technical solution?
<grin>
Joyce
--
started ww 2/5/02 ---> 228.8/146.5/150ww goal/140ish personal goal
WW GOAL!!! 2/21/03
total weight loss to date: 82.3 pounds
NAFC website can be found at: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaw179/
jo...@nothere.net
Prairie Roots wrote:
As you can already tell, I love mine and rely on it heavily. I was concerned after
posting the website, about the reliability of the company and if the item was still
available. Then figured since so many are always on ebay, they must be getting them
somewhere. <grin> Hope you enjoy the software as much as I do!
Joyce
>
> --
> Prairie Roots
> 232/219.5/157
Brenda Hamby
never had the pickled herring does it have a mild taste ? i don't like
heavy fishy taste . i do enjoy salmon out of the can like tuna thats
really good !
Brenda in Ga.
Pickled Herring Warning (G)
Group: alt.support.diet.weightwatchers Date: Tue, Mar 18, 2003, 6:04pm
(EST-3) From: 67516...@compuserve.com (Fred)
Fred
You can use it's signature feature or you can use its PASTE signature
feature. The first, places it all the way at the end of the message
and only after you post - so you don't see it. Whereas the second
places it right there at the current location and you see it go in
like here:
Fred
219.2/178.2/176 (next 10% goal)
jaw
netscape, which I found to be super easy even from the very first attempt. What is it about agent
that you like better? I don't like their automatic signature feature (can't see the thing), but the
paste sig is nice - when I remember to do it. I like being able to choose from more than one
signature. I had some questions on it yesterday - danged if I can remember them now. LOL! I'll
keep playing and write them down if I encounter problems again.
Joyce
--
started ww 2/5/02 ---> 228.8/146.5/150ww goal/140ish personal goal
WW GOAL!!! 2/21/03
total weight loss to date: 82.3 pounds
NAFC website can be found at: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaw179/
Fred
>hehehe, I was bored last night - downloaded agent to give it a try. Boy is it different than
>netscape, which I found to be super easy even from the very first attempt. What is it about agent
>that you like better? I don't like their automatic signature feature (can't see the thing), but the
>paste sig is nice - when I remember to do it. I like being able to choose from more than one
>signature. I had some questions on it yesterday - danged if I can remember them now. LOL! I'll
>keep playing and write them down if I encounter problems again.
Yes, I used FREE AGENT until about two weeks ago when I paid for the
upgrade.
As I wrote in another Thread, Netscape would automatically run java
code and that sometimes created visual havoc (spammers) altho, never
any real damage. A friend, a programmer, suggested Agent. I liked
its abilities but changing takes getting use to. I've become more of
a stick in the mud and tend to stay with my OLD friends - that is
programs that work and I know how to use them. Agent seemed okay at
first glance.
It does allow multiple signatures altho I'm not sure that I found a
way to automatically pick one for say alt.ww versus the gps group but
it might be there. I did not experiment with sigs until the other day
(G)
And now that explains "JAWS!" (G)
Agent has its own newsgroup, too:
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
I got some answers to setting up two ISP's news servers. And that's
where I found I would have to move all the Agent data and not just
some point or index file between the laptop/desktop.
The same friend suggested The Bat for email and I pretty much have
adopted that in the last 2 weeks also. I think www.ritlabs.com just
in case you again, have nothing other than laundary and dishwasher
emptying to do. (G)
Fred
(Brenda Hamby) wrote:
> HI !
>never had the pickled herring does it have a mild taste ? i don't like
>heavy fishy taste . i do enjoy salmon out of the can like tuna thats
>really good !
>Brenda in Ga.
>Pickled Herring Warning (G)
>
Hmmm. I like it is probably all I can say. You can get smaller jars
in some locations but each brand varies in sweetness or pickling.
I'm salivating just thinking about it this morning (G)
Prairie Roots
it be compared with salmon, tuna, anchovies, clams, mackerel, sardines,
kipper snacks, or any other fish that's canned in oil or water.
Pickled herring has a, well, a pickled taste.
After all the recent posts on the topic, I had herring on my brain.
Yesterday I finally gave in and bought a jar. For lunch today, I fixed
Fred's hiking lunch: pickled herring on a bagel. Since I wasn't hiking, I
followed the suggested serving size on the label and limited myself to 2 oz.
of herring for 2.1 points, according to my points calculator.
I savored every bite.
--
Prairie Roots
232/218/10% 209/157
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 12:22:11 -0500 (EST), BarryLov...@webtv.net (Brenda
Hamby) wrote:
joyce
>On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:30:32 -0600, jaw <jo...@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>>hehehe, I was bored last night - downloaded agent to give it a try. Boy is it different than
>>netscape, which I found to be super easy even from the very first attempt. What is it about agent
>>that you like better? I don't like their automatic signature feature (can't see the thing), but the
>>paste sig is nice - when I remember to do it. I like being able to choose from more than one
>>signature. I had some questions on it yesterday - danged if I can remember them now. LOL! I'll
>>keep playing and write them down if I encounter problems again.
>
>
>Yes, I used FREE AGENT until about two weeks ago when I paid for the
>upgrade.
>
>As I wrote in another Thread, Netscape would automatically run java
>code and that sometimes created visual havoc (spammers) altho, never
>any real damage. A friend, a programmer, suggested Agent. I liked
>its abilities but changing takes getting use to. I've become more of
>a stick in the mud and tend to stay with my OLD friends - that is
>programs that work and I know how to use them. Agent seemed okay at
>first glance.
I have the same problem, have used netscape forever and am very comfortable with it. Daughter
downloaded the newest version for me and I quickly uninstalled it - it was no longer my friend!
>It does allow multiple signatures altho I'm not sure that I found a
>way to automatically pick one for say alt.ww versus the gps group but
>it might be there. I did not experiment with sigs until the other day
>(G)
I've only found the multiple sig to be an option if using the paste signature option. The box pops
up and you can select which sig you want to use. Soooo, make a few up, label one ww, one agent,
whatever - then when pasting the sig just choose which one you want to use. Probably not the
*right* way to do things, but it works for me. LOL
>
>And now that explains "JAWS!" (G)
Actually, jaw is my initials. No deep dark secret or anything clever ... is just who I am. <g>
>
>Agent has its own newsgroup, too:
>
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
>
>I got some answers to setting up two ISP's news servers. And that's
>where I found I would have to move all the Agent data and not just
>some point or index file between the laptop/desktop.
Thanks for the info. If I get some time this week, I'll check it out so I can learn to use this
better. So far I am happy. A few little quirks that take a bit of getting used to, but nothing
major.
>
>The same friend suggested The Bat for email and I pretty much have
>adopted that in the last 2 weeks also. I think www.ritlabs.com just
>in case you again, have nothing other than laundary and dishwasher
>emptying to do. (G)
Week-ends are devoted to laundry, unfortunately. <sigh> I still miss my Eudora email program,
wonder why they never upgraded versions for the past few years. I must have been the only person in
the world who used it. <g> I take it you didn't like Agent for email use?
Joyce
228.8/146.5/150 ---> 2/21/03 - total lost 82.3 lbs.
Brenda Hammond
eat even more since the bagel probably has a lot of points... I have been
resisting the bottle that looks at me when I open the fridge. Moved it to
the back and hid it behind stuff DH eats and I don't like, so it doesn't
look at me every time I'm in there!
Brenda
209/193/140
NAFC goal 190
"Prairie Roots" <prairie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:r1bq7v4ds70957v99...@4ax.com...
Fred
>On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:07:04 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 09:30:32 -0600, jaw <jo...@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>hehehe, I was bored last night - downloaded agent to give it a try. Boy is it different than
>>>netscape, which I found to be super easy even from the very first attempt. What is it about agent
>>>that you like better? I don't like their automatic signature feature (can't see the thing), but the
>>>paste sig is nice - when I remember to do it. I like being able to choose from more than one
>>>signature. I had some questions on it yesterday - danged if I can remember them now. LOL! I'll
>>>keep playing and write them down if I encounter problems again.
>>
>>
>>Yes, I used FREE AGENT until about two weeks ago when I paid for the
>>upgrade.
>>
>>As I wrote in another Thread, Netscape would automatically run java
>>code and that sometimes created visual havoc (spammers) altho, never
>>any real damage. A friend, a programmer, suggested Agent. I liked
>>its abilities but changing takes getting use to. I've become more of
>>a stick in the mud and tend to stay with my OLD friends - that is
>>programs that work and I know how to use them. Agent seemed okay at
>>first glance.
>
>I have the same problem, have used netscape forever and am very comfortable with it. Daughter
>downloaded the newest version for me and I quickly uninstalled it - it was no longer my friend!
I still prefer Netscape over Internet Explorer but generally only the
browser part. I'm using what's termed a compact version - none of the
Instant messaging stuff and lot's else cut out. But they tweaked too
much in Netscape and I hate the SEARCH Bookmark function.
>>It does allow multiple signatures altho I'm not sure that I found a
>>way to automatically pick one for say alt.ww versus the gps group but
>>it might be there. I did not experiment with sigs until the other day
>>(G)
>
>I've only found the multiple sig to be an option if using the paste signature option. The box pops
>up and you can select which sig you want to use. Soooo, make a few up, label one ww, one agent,
>whatever - then when pasting the sig just choose which one you want to use. Probably not the
>*right* way to do things, but it works for me. LOL
That I noticed but I was wondering if it also has an automated mode in
each newsgroup. These are computers after all - it should do what I
want without hassle! (G)
>>
>>And now that explains "JAWS!" (G)
>
>Actually, jaw is my initials. No deep dark secret or anything clever ... is just who I am. <g>
Yes, I figured that out.
>>Agent has its own newsgroup, too:
>>
>>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
>>
>>I got some answers to setting up two ISP's news servers. And that's
>>where I found I would have to move all the Agent data and not just
>>some point or index file between the laptop/desktop.
>
>Thanks for the info. If I get some time this week, I'll check it out so I can learn to use this
>better. So far I am happy. A few little quirks that take a bit of getting used to, but nothing
>major.
>
>>The same friend suggested The Bat for email and I pretty much have
>>adopted that in the last 2 weeks also. I think www.ritlabs.com just
>>in case you again, have nothing other than laundary and dishwasher
>>emptying to do. (G)
>
>Week-ends are devoted to laundry, unfortunately. <sigh> I still miss my Eudora email program,
>wonder why they never upgraded versions for the past few years. I must have been the only person in
>the world who used it. <g> I take it you didn't like Agent for email use?
There is a new version of Eudora since I was comparing that against
The Bat. I could not get comfortable with Eudora's personalities
quickly enough and MY personalities are quirky enough!
The Bat shows attached jpg's in a separate tabbed window. But,
frankly, using two dos programs for email up till now really limited
much. Now I can see the attachments, can fire up some link a friend
sends, forward and reply to a group easily and cc and bcc to my hearts
content (G) Friends were complaining but, at least, I did not send
superfluous html and xxx.dat files like some of those MS programs.
.
Fred
<prairie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Pickled herring doesn't have a heavy fishy taste or any fishy taste. Nor can
>it be compared with salmon, tuna, anchovies, clams, mackerel, sardines,
>kipper snacks, or any other fish that's canned in oil or water.
>
>Pickled herring has a, well, a pickled taste.
>
>After all the recent posts on the topic, I had herring on my brain.
>Yesterday I finally gave in and bought a jar. For lunch today, I fixed
>Fred's hiking lunch: pickled herring on a bagel. Since I wasn't hiking, I
>followed the suggested serving size on the label and limited myself to 2 oz.
>of herring for 2.1 points, according to my points calculator.
>
>I savored every bite.
OKAY!!!!!!!!!! Isn't it wonderful. It really does not take much to
be satisfying - all that flavor (and healthy oils) packed into those
little morsels of herring.
Erin Marsh
wrote:
>>I've only found the multiple sig to be an option if using the paste signature option. The box pops
>>up and you can select which sig you want to use. Soooo, make a few up, label one ww, one agent,
>>whatever - then when pasting the sig just choose which one you want to use. Probably not the
>>*right* way to do things, but it works for me. LOL
>
>That I noticed but I was wondering if it also has an automated mode in
>each newsgroup. These are computers after all - it should do what I
>want without hassle! (G)
It does do what you want it to do. My newsgroups are set up to
automatically post with different sigs. I forget how to do it though,
sorry ;-) I'll ask my dear hubby when he gets home and post if you're
still interested.
--
Erin in NZ
123.4/79.8/75 kgs
271.8/175.7/165 lbs
NAFC goal 75kgs (165lbs)
Fred
individual newsgroups. Thanks for any info you can provide (I will
look over stuff in the interim)
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:55:09 +1200, Erin Marsh <er.m...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:
Fred
219.2/178.2/176 (next 10% goal)
Erin Marsh
wrote:
>I AM interested in adding Signatures that are specialized for
>individual newsgroups. Thanks for any info you can provide (I will
>look over stuff in the interim)
It's really easy. First, do up all the different sigs you want, then
go into Groups, Properties and go from there. Easy peasy :-)
Fred
The only remaining issue is that it places the signature at the VERY
end even in a message like this, whereas I would want it right after
my text
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:58:05 +1200, Erin Marsh <er.m...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:38:10 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I AM interested in adding Signatures that are specialized for
>>individual newsgroups. Thanks for any info you can provide (I will
>>look over stuff in the interim)
>
>It's really easy. First, do up all the different sigs you want, then
>go into Groups, Properties and go from there. Easy peasy :-)
Fred
219.2/178/176 (next 10% goal)
Fred
The only remaining issue is that it places the signature at the VERY
end even in a message like this, whereas I would want it right after
my text I would prefer the location I now will choose manually like
this:
Fred
219.2/178/176 (next 10% goal)
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:58:05 +1200, Erin Marsh <er.m...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:38:10 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com>
joyce
>>downloaded the newest version for me and I quickly uninstalled it - it was no longer my friend!
>
>I still prefer Netscape over Internet Explorer but generally only the
>browser part. I'm using what's termed a compact version - none of the
>Instant messaging stuff and lot's else cut out. But they tweaked too
>much in Netscape and I hate the SEARCH Bookmark function.
I seem to be the opposite. I used to be extremely loyal to the netscape browser
... am no longer as I find IE browser much more stable. The netscape browser
inevitably will lock up my computer or do funky stuff, usually not worth the
impending headaches. I'm not an IM fan, but will admit to using it. It allows me
to chat a bit with my son (when he can get connected ... if he can stay
connected). If not chatting, I at least can see that he is alive and well,
comforting for this old mom. <g> So ... netscape was for email and newsgroups, IE
for surfing.
>>>It does allow multiple signatures altho I'm not sure that I found a
>>>way to automatically pick one for say alt.ww versus the gps group but
>>>it might be there. I did not experiment with sigs until the other day
>>>(G)
>>
>>I've only found the multiple sig to be an option if using the paste signature option. The box pops
>>up and you can select which sig you want to use. Soooo, make a few up, label one ww, one agent,
>>whatever - then when pasting the sig just choose which one you want to use. Probably not the
>>*right* way to do things, but it works for me. LOL
>
>That I noticed but I was wondering if it also has an automated mode in
>each newsgroup. These are computers after all - it should do what I
>want without hassle! (G)
Agreed! Everything tends to be a hassle though, at least for me. Someone did
post instructions for using multiple sigs, but like you - I don't like how they
automatically post all the way down at the bottom of the page. And in Agent, you
don't have the option of cutting and pasting the sigs like you do in netscape -
can't see it until after you hit send.
>>Week-ends are devoted to laundry, unfortunately. <sigh> I still miss my Eudora email program,
>>wonder why they never upgraded versions for the past few years. I must have been the only person in
>>the world who used it. <g> I take it you didn't like Agent for email use?
>
>There is a new version of Eudora since I was comparing that against
>The Bat. I could not get comfortable with Eudora's personalities
>quickly enough and MY personalities are quirky enough!
LOL! You suffer from those multiple personalities too? I thought that was just a
female thing. <g> I might have to look at the new Eudora, gave up waiting for a
new version long ago. I'm not even sure what I'm looking for, if anything ...
just something easy to use. It would be nice to be able to access all my email
accounts from one program, without having to close one out and reopen another.
>
>The Bat shows attached jpg's in a separate tabbed window. But,
>frankly, using two dos programs for email up till now really limited
>much. Now I can see the attachments, can fire up some link a friend
>sends, forward and reply to a group easily and cc and bcc to my hearts
>content (G) Friends were complaining but, at least, I did not send
>superfluous html and xxx.dat files like some of those MS programs.
I do want to avoid any program that automatically opens attachments, has been nice
so far in avoiding viruses/worms that always seem to be floating around. The only
complaint I tend to get from my friends is that I am too darned slow in replying
to emails. I still have one from over a year ago sitting patiently in my inbox
... with about 50 other more recent ones. I admit to being bad in that
department. <g>
JulieB
> Thanks.
>
> The only remaining issue is that it places the signature at the VERY
> end even in a message like this, whereas I would want it right after
> my text I would prefer the location I now will choose manually like
> this:
>
> Fred
> 219.2/178/176 (next 10% goal)
Think of it as an enforced way to bottom post :) Although top-posting does
seem to be the norm in this group - we'd be flamed into oblivion anywhere
else!
--
Julie.
93.5/80.2/72 kg
205.7/176.4/154 lb
Fred
>On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:12:06 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>I have the same problem, have used netscape forever and am very comfortable with it. Daughter
>>>downloaded the newest version for me and I quickly uninstalled it - it was no longer my friend!
>>
>>I still prefer Netscape over Internet Explorer but generally only the
>>browser part. I'm using what's termed a compact version - none of the
>>Instant messaging stuff and lot's else cut out. But they tweaked too
>>much in Netscape and I hate the SEARCH Bookmark function.
>
>I seem to be the opposite. I used to be extremely loyal to the netscape browser
>... am no longer as I find IE browser much more stable. The netscape browser
>inevitably will lock up my computer or do funky stuff, usually not worth the
>impending headaches. I'm not an IM fan, but will admit to using it. It allows me
>to chat a bit with my son (when he can get connected ... if he can stay
>connected). If not chatting, I at least can see that he is alive and well,
>comforting for this old mom. <g> So ... netscape was for email and newsgroups, IE
>for surfing.
Well, work has abandoned support for Netscape. While we are permitted
to use it, they won't help if there are any problems. And I've got
problems on the work win98 - it bogs down almost constantly and
Netscape makes it even worse. But I still don't like Favorites!
The only time I did anything like that was ICQ where I was testing a
dos program for my palmtop. Too chaotic (g)
>>>>It does allow multiple signatures altho I'm not sure that I found a
>>>>way to automatically pick one for say alt.ww versus the gps group but
>>>>it might be there. I did not experiment with sigs until the other day
>>>>(G)
>>>
>>>I've only found the multiple sig to be an option if using the paste signature option. The box pops
>>>up and you can select which sig you want to use. Soooo, make a few up, label one ww, one agent,
>>>whatever - then when pasting the sig just choose which one you want to use. Probably not the
>>>*right* way to do things, but it works for me. LOL
>>
>>That I noticed but I was wondering if it also has an automated mode in
>>each newsgroup. These are computers after all - it should do what I
>>want without hassle! (G)
>
>Agreed! Everything tends to be a hassle though, at least for me. Someone did
>post instructions for using multiple sigs, but like you - I don't like how they
>automatically post all the way down at the bottom of the page. And in Agent, you
>don't have the option of cutting and pasting the sigs like you do in netscape -
>can't see it until after you hit send.
Agent does have Edit/PasteSignature (I don't know if that's in Free
Agent?) where it will place your chosen signature at the current
location as follows:
Fred
219.2/178/176 (next 10% goal)
SEE! (G)
>>>Week-ends are devoted to laundry, unfortunately. <sigh> I still miss my Eudora email program,
>>>wonder why they never upgraded versions for the past few years. I must have been the only person in
>>>the world who used it. <g> I take it you didn't like Agent for email use?
>>
>>There is a new version of Eudora since I was comparing that against
>>The Bat. I could not get comfortable with Eudora's personalities
>>quickly enough and MY personalities are quirky enough!
>
>LOL! You suffer from those multiple personalities too? I thought that was just a
>female thing. <g> I might have to look at the new Eudora, gave up waiting for a
>new version long ago. I'm not even sure what I'm looking for, if anything ...
>just something easy to use. It would be nice to be able to access all my email
>accounts from one program, without having to close one out and reopen another.
I did not quite understand its nomenclature. I never could quite get
both cis accounts and my at&t account sorted out in it. I removed it!
>>The Bat shows attached jpg's in a separate tabbed window. But,
>>frankly, using two dos programs for email up till now really limited
>>much. Now I can see the attachments, can fire up some link a friend
>>sends, forward and reply to a group easily and cc and bcc to my hearts
>>content (G) Friends were complaining but, at least, I did not send
>>superfluous html and xxx.dat files like some of those MS programs.
>
>I do want to avoid any program that automatically opens attachments, has been nice
>so far in avoiding viruses/worms that always seem to be floating around. The only
>complaint I tend to get from my friends is that I am too darned slow in replying
>to emails. I still have one from over a year ago sitting patiently in my inbox
>... with about 50 other more recent ones. I admit to being bad in that
>department. <g>
Uh, oh! I'm pretty good. I guess some of us do think email should be
quickly answered. Some friends are more like you.
Erin Marsh
wrote:
>Thanks.
>
>The only remaining issue is that it places the signature at the VERY
>end even in a message like this, whereas I would want it right after
>my text
Agent supports bottom posting. I guess it's to encourage that and to
encourage you to snip any unnecessary quoted material. I like it that
way :-)
Fred
Okay, I see that Agent is focused on the bottom posting. I usually
try intermixing my response and cutting excess. But Agent does have
an Edit/PasteSig menu command and I've found the toolbar button to do
it also - when I remember (G)
Fred
219.2/178/176 (next 10% goal)
joyce
>>I seem to be the opposite. I used to be extremely loyal to the netscape browser
>>... am no longer as I find IE browser much more stable. The netscape browser
>>inevitably will lock up my computer or do funky stuff, usually not worth the
>>impending headaches. I'm not an IM fan, but will admit to using it. It allows me
>>to chat a bit with my son (when he can get connected ... if he can stay
>>connected). If not chatting, I at least can see that he is alive and well,
>>comforting for this old mom. <g> So ... netscape was for email and newsgroups, IE
>>for surfing.
>
>Well, work has abandoned support for Netscape. While we are permitted
>to use it, they won't help if there are any problems. And I've got
>problems on the work win98 - it bogs down almost constantly and
>Netscape makes it even worse. But I still don't like Favorites!
I've heard that most everyone has stopped netscape support, guess this program is
also going to be used less frequently. I've gotten used to the favorites in IE,
don't see much difference anymore than in netscapes bookmark system. With the
exception of that danged *links* folder - that refuses to stay gone no matter how
many times I delete it.
>The only time I did anything like that was ICQ where I was testing a
>dos program for my palmtop. Too chaotic (g)
ICQ is what killed the chat thing for me, I hated the incessant beeping.
>>Agreed! Everything tends to be a hassle though, at least for me. Someone did
>>post instructions for using multiple sigs, but like you - I don't like how they
>>automatically post all the way down at the bottom of the page. And in Agent, you
>>don't have the option of cutting and pasting the sigs like you do in netscape -
>>can't see it until after you hit send.
>
>Agent does have Edit/PasteSignature (I don't know if that's in Free
>Agent?) where it will place your chosen signature at the current
>location as follows:
>
>Fred
>219.2/178/176 (next 10% goal)
>
>SEE! (G)
Yup, that's what I've been using. I don't think the option is available in Free
Agent though. Right now I'm using the trial version, which is actually Agent ...
I have 3 weeks to decide if I want to pay the extra for it or revert to netscape.
Another decision to be made.
>>>The Bat shows attached jpg's in a separate tabbed window. But,
>>>frankly, using two dos programs for email up till now really limited
>>>much. Now I can see the attachments, can fire up some link a friend
>>>sends, forward and reply to a group easily and cc and bcc to my hearts
>>>content (G) Friends were complaining but, at least, I did not send
>>>superfluous html and xxx.dat files like some of those MS programs.
>>
>>I do want to avoid any program that automatically opens attachments, has been nice
>>so far in avoiding viruses/worms that always seem to be floating around. The only
>>complaint I tend to get from my friends is that I am too darned slow in replying
>>to emails. I still have one from over a year ago sitting patiently in my inbox
>>... with about 50 other more recent ones. I admit to being bad in that
>>department. <g>
>
>Uh, oh! I'm pretty good. I guess some of us do think email should be
>quickly answered. Some friends are more like you.
I know, I know - emails should be answered ... I'm just horribly slow. I try to
save them for when I have time to think straight - then it never happens. And
there are just so many of them. <G> Kind of like this newsgroup, is awfully hard
to keep up sometimes.
Joyce
--
started ww 2/5/02 ---> 228.8/145.5/150ww goal/140ish personal goal
WW GOAL!!! 2/21/03
total weight loss to date: 83.3 pounds
Linda J.
Christmas, and I purposely wasn't reading this thread cause I didn't
want to give in. Now you've done it--I bought a huge jar at Costco. I
have absolutely no willpower. Have you ever helped them swim-on-down
with an ice cold shot of Akvavit? My famiy always does, but I'm leaving
my bottle in the freezer until next Christmas. I guess I do have a
smidge of willpower.
Linda
252/197.2/3rd 10%-184
NAFC goal-198
67516...@compuserve.com (Fred)
Linda J.
Christmas, and I purposely wasn't reading this thread cause I didn't
want to give in. Now you've done it--I bought a huge jar at Costco. I
have absolutely no willpower. Have you ever helped them swim-on-down
with an ice cold shot of Akvavit? My famiy always does, but I'm leaving
my bottle in the freezer until next Christmas. I guess I do have a
smidge of willpower.
Linda
252/197.2/3rd 10%-184
NAFC goal-198
67516...@compuserve.com (Fred)
Brenda Hammond
May have to try it next Christmas!
Brenda
209/191/140
NAFC goal 190
"Linda J." <kitk...@interactive.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1919-3E...@storefull-1903.public.rogers.webtv.net...
Fred
>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:04:23 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>>>I seem to be the opposite. I used to be extremely loyal to the netscape browser
>>>... am no longer as I find IE browser much more stable. The netscape browser
>>>inevitably will lock up my computer or do funky stuff, usually not worth the
>>>impending headaches. I'm not an IM fan, but will admit to using it. It allows me
>>>to chat a bit with my son (when he can get connected ... if he can stay
>>>connected). If not chatting, I at least can see that he is alive and well,
>>>comforting for this old mom. <g> So ... netscape was for email and newsgroups, IE
>>>for surfing.
>>
>>Well, work has abandoned support for Netscape. While we are permitted
>>to use it, they won't help if there are any problems. And I've got
>>problems on the work win98 - it bogs down almost constantly and
>>Netscape makes it even worse. But I still don't like Favorites!
>
>I've heard that most everyone has stopped netscape support, guess this program is
>also going to be used less frequently. I've gotten used to the favorites in IE,
>don't see much difference anymore than in netscapes bookmark system. With the
>exception of that danged *links* folder - that refuses to stay gone no matter how
>many times I delete it.
MS knows what we need and will force it down out throats! The pizza
dinner (there it is again) was actually with a group of friends that
started out on a bbs about 10+ years ago. We started getting together
at an occasional party. Then as bbsing faded, we turned it into
alternating breakfast and lunch with an occasional dinner event. One
of the women got into computers due to geneology. We still have a
terrific time. But have moved beyond computers to all kinds of
general stuff.
>>The only time I did anything like that was ICQ where I was testing a
>>dos program for my palmtop. Too chaotic (g)
>
>ICQ is what killed the chat thing for me, I hated the incessant beeping.
I understand.
>>>Agreed! Everything tends to be a hassle though, at least for me. Someone did
>>>post instructions for using multiple sigs, but like you - I don't like how they
>>>automatically post all the way down at the bottom of the page. And in Agent, you
>>>don't have the option of cutting and pasting the sigs like you do in netscape -
>>>can't see it until after you hit send.
>>
>>Agent does have Edit/PasteSignature (I don't know if that's in Free
>>Agent?) where it will place your chosen signature at the current
>>location as follows:
>Yup, that's what I've been using. I don't think the option is available in Free
>Agent though. Right now I'm using the trial version, which is actually Agent ...
>I have 3 weeks to decide if I want to pay the extra for it or revert to netscape.
>Another decision to be made.
Funny about Agent. I think this was their first foray into allowing
all functions for a limited time. So that if you opted for some
functions like changing the tool bar, the extra functions remained
even after the evaulation. Unfortunately, they fixed that glitch! (G)
But I then decided I did like the functions and so registered. I've
decided I'm never going to retire anyway so might as well earn and
spend!
>>>>The Bat shows attached jpg's in a separate tabbed window. But,
>>>>frankly, using two dos programs for email up till now really limited
>>>>much. Now I can see the attachments, can fire up some link a friend
>>>>sends, forward and reply to a group easily and cc and bcc to my hearts
>>>>content (G) Friends were complaining but, at least, I did not send
>>>>superfluous html and xxx.dat files like some of those MS programs.
>>>
>>>I do want to avoid any program that automatically opens attachments, has been nice
>>>so far in avoiding viruses/worms that always seem to be floating around. The only
>>>complaint I tend to get from my friends is that I am too darned slow in replying
>>>to emails. I still have one from over a year ago sitting patiently in my inbox
>>>... with about 50 other more recent ones. I admit to being bad in that
>>>department. <g>
>>
>>Uh, oh! I'm pretty good. I guess some of us do think email should be
>>quickly answered. Some friends are more like you.
>
>I know, I know - emails should be answered ... I'm just horribly slow. I try to
>save them for when I have time to think straight - then it never happens. And
>there are just so many of them. <G> Kind of like this newsgroup, is awfully hard
>to keep up sometimes.
Yes occasionally, this place overflows with messages. I can just see
what happens in a few weeks if I take vacation..... Oh, the microwave
just announced my healthy choice is done (G)
Fred
kitk...@interactive.rogers.com (Linda J.) wrote:
> All right, you two, you got me. I haven't had pickled herrings since
>Christmas, and I purposely wasn't reading this thread cause I didn't
>want to give in. Now you've done it--I bought a huge jar at Costco. I
>have absolutely no willpower. Have you ever helped them swim-on-down
>with an ice cold shot of Akvavit? My famiy always does, but I'm leaving
>my bottle in the freezer until next Christmas. I guess I do have a
>smidge of willpower.
Join the picked herring fan club! (G) Maybe we should start our own
challenge. At the former significant other's family (she was Swedish,
well, still is) Christmas events - yup. And glug, too!
Please recall that I am not sure about the points value. It may be
more but it is healthy. Just don't over do until you figure out
yourself (G) But it does taste good.
Prairie Roots
>On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:23:51 -0500 (EST),
>kitk...@interactive.rogers.com (Linda J.) wrote:
>
>> All right, you two, you got me. I haven't had pickled herrings since
>>Christmas, and I purposely wasn't reading this thread cause I didn't
>>want to give in. Now you've done it--I bought a huge jar at Costco. I
>>have absolutely no willpower. Have you ever helped them swim-on-down
>>with an ice cold shot of Akvavit? My famiy always does, but I'm leaving
>>my bottle in the freezer until next Christmas. I guess I do have a
>>smidge of willpower.
>
>Join the picked herring fan club! (G)
I think it's a club of 3 or 4 now. See what you started?
>Maybe we should start our own
>challenge. At the former significant other's family (she was Swedish,
>well, still is) Christmas events - yup. And glug, too!
Saving pickled herring for Christmas must be a Swedish thing. It was my
Swedish relatives who reserved it for Christmas too. But since they were
also Baptist, there wasn't any Akvavit. All these years I've been missing
out!
>Please recall that I am not sure about the points value.
On the WW site, 1/2 cup of pickled herring is listed at 2 points. Change the
portion size to 4 oz, and the calculation jumps to 4.5 points. When I was in
school, 1 cup = 8 oz.; therefore 1/2 cup = 4 oz. Maybe it's New Math. Or
maybe in this case, the distinction is volume versus weight. Anyway, to be
safe, I use a food scale instead of a measuring cup. One of these days I'll
get around to finding out how much 1/2 cup of pickled herring weighs (and
vice versa).
>It may be
>more but it is healthy. Just don't over do until you figure out
>yourself (G) But it does taste good.
Preach, brother, preach!
--
Prairie Roots
232/215.5/10% 209/157
==
Kali
news:i9kh8vgk5fdka17cj...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 06:46:09 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com>
wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:23:51 -0500 (EST),
> >kitk...@interactive.rogers.com (Linda J.) wrote:
> >
> >> All right, you two, you got me. I haven't had pickled herrings since
> >>Christmas, and I purposely wasn't reading this thread cause I didn't
> >>want to give in. Now you've done it--I bought a huge jar at Costco.
I
> >>have absolutely no willpower. Have you ever helped them swim-on-down
> >>with an ice cold shot of Akvavit? My famiy always does, but I'm
leaving
> >>my bottle in the freezer until next Christmas. I guess I do have a
> >>smidge of willpower.
> >
> >Join the picked herring fan club! (G)
>
> I think it's a club of 3 or 4 now. See what you started?
All this talk of pickled herring has me curious. Where do you buy them?
Regular grocery stores? If so, what part of the store are they typically
found in?
Prairie Roots
Pickled herring comes cold-packed in glass jars. I've found it in every
regular grocery store I've shopped regardless of the region (e.g. Atlanta,
San Francisco, Los Angeles, Minneapolis). I usually start looking for it
with the cold cuts or other cold, non-dairy, prepackaged deli-type items
(such as certain brands of pickles, sauerkraut). There are two kinds: packed
in wine and packed in (sour) cream. The points for herring packed in cream
sauce leaps to 3 points for a mere 1/4 cup, according to WW online database.
If you try it, be sure to report whether you like it.
--
Prairie Roots
232/215.5/10% 209/157
==
Brenda Hammond
store where you find refrigerated packaged deli meats, and non-dairy type
stuff. You can usually find pickled pigs feet/hocks in the same area (I
love these, but definitely not a low point item).
Brenda
209/190/140
NAFC goal 190
"Kali" <ka...@REMOVEhotpop.com> wrote in message
news:v8hlcp5...@corp.supernews.com...
Fred
gallon or larger (??) glass jars when I was a kid and ship it home
with my dad. It was terrific stuff.
The distinction may be weight versus the measuring cup. But the
Costco jar does indicate the higher points after using a Points
Calculator then the WW book. When I stall, I will examine all these
issues more carefully. But I also know that WW is not Atkins - there
are no forbidden foods and I will not give up my picked herring.
Altho, I have limited very substantially the herring in (sour) cream
sauce! (g)
joyce
>>>to use it, they won't help if there are any problems. And I've got
>>>problems on the work win98 - it bogs down almost constantly and
>>>Netscape makes it even worse. But I still don't like Favorites!
>>
>>I've heard that most everyone has stopped netscape support, guess this program is
>>also going to be used less frequently. I've gotten used to the favorites in IE,
>>don't see much difference anymore than in netscapes bookmark system. With the
>>exception of that danged *links* folder - that refuses to stay gone no matter how
>>many times I delete it.
>
>MS knows what we need and will force it down out throats! The pizza
>dinner (there it is again) was actually with a group of friends that
>started out on a bbs about 10+ years ago. We started getting together
>at an occasional party. Then as bbsing faded, we turned it into
>alternating breakfast and lunch with an occasional dinner event. One
>of the women got into computers due to geneology. We still have a
>terrific time. But have moved beyond computers to all kinds of
>general stuff.
Your group sounds like a lot of fun. I met a bunch of people 5 years ago, through
a beanie baby collecting newsgroup (yes, I WAS one of those wierdos - but I blame
it on my kids). A few of us were from the chicago area, did get together once ...
for that pizza. No one collects anymore, yet we still all remain in contact. I
just received an email tonite that they are trying to find a way for all of us to
meet up in Vegas sometime in the near future ... if I answer the email in time.
<G> My daughter is currently annoyed with me for not letting her meet some young
boy she has been chatting with on the internet - doesn't understand why I'm so
paranoid. We're working through this ..... someday she will realize that this is
only going to happen on my terms and in my home!
>>>>Agreed! Everything tends to be a hassle though, at least for me. Someone did
>>>>post instructions for using multiple sigs, but like you - I don't like how they
>>>>automatically post all the way down at the bottom of the page. And in Agent, you
>>>>don't have the option of cutting and pasting the sigs like you do in netscape -
>>>>can't see it until after you hit send.
>>>
>>>Agent does have Edit/PasteSignature (I don't know if that's in Free
>>>Agent?) where it will place your chosen signature at the current
>>>location as follows:
>
>>Yup, that's what I've been using. I don't think the option is available in Free
>>Agent though. Right now I'm using the trial version, which is actually Agent ...
>>I have 3 weeks to decide if I want to pay the extra for it or revert to netscape.
>>Another decision to be made.
>
>Funny about Agent. I think this was their first foray into allowing
>all functions for a limited time. So that if you opted for some
>functions like changing the tool bar, the extra functions remained
>even after the evaulation. Unfortunately, they fixed that glitch! (G)
>But I then decided I did like the functions and so registered. I've
>decided I'm never going to retire anyway so might as well earn and
>spend!
I like my lifestyle much better ... dh earns, I spend - works well for us. <G> My
philosophy is that we can't take it with us, and I don't feel it my obligation to
leave it for my kids. We earned our money, they can earn their own. <GGGGG>
>>>>>The Bat shows attached jpg's in a separate tabbed window. But,
>>>>>frankly, using two dos programs for email up till now really limited
>>>>>much. Now I can see the attachments, can fire up some link a friend
>>>>>sends, forward and reply to a group easily and cc and bcc to my hearts
>>>>>content (G) Friends were complaining but, at least, I did not send
>>>>>superfluous html and xxx.dat files like some of those MS programs.
>>>>
>>>>I do want to avoid any program that automatically opens attachments, has been nice
>>>>so far in avoiding viruses/worms that always seem to be floating around. The only
>>>>complaint I tend to get from my friends is that I am too darned slow in replying
>>>>to emails. I still have one from over a year ago sitting patiently in my inbox
>>>>... with about 50 other more recent ones. I admit to being bad in that
>>>>department. <g>
>>>
>>>Uh, oh! I'm pretty good. I guess some of us do think email should be
>>>quickly answered. Some friends are more like you.
>>
>>I know, I know - emails should be answered ... I'm just horribly slow. I try to
>>save them for when I have time to think straight - then it never happens. And
>>there are just so many of them. <G> Kind of like this newsgroup, is awfully hard
>>to keep up sometimes.
>
>Yes occasionally, this place overflows with messages. I can just see
>what happens in a few weeks if I take vacation..... Oh, the microwave
>just announced my healthy choice is done (G)
I don't want to think about leaving for a vacation, it's been bad enough only
missing a day! Hope you enjoyed that healthy choice dinner.
Fred
>>MS knows what we need and will force it down out throats! The pizza
>>dinner (there it is again) was actually with a group of friends that
>>started out on a bbs about 10+ years ago. We started getting together
>>at an occasional party. Then as bbsing faded, we turned it into
>>alternating breakfast and lunch with an occasional dinner event. One
>>of the women got into computers due to geneology. We still have a
>>terrific time. But have moved beyond computers to all kinds of
>>general stuff.
>
>Your group sounds like a lot of fun. I met a bunch of people 5 years ago, through
>a beanie baby collecting newsgroup (yes, I WAS one of those wierdos - but I blame
>it on my kids). A few of us were from the chicago area, did get together once ...
>for that pizza. No one collects anymore, yet we still all remain in contact. I
>just received an email tonite that they are trying to find a way for all of us to
>meet up in Vegas sometime in the near future ... if I answer the email in time.
><G> My daughter is currently annoyed with me for not letting her meet some young
>boy she has been chatting with on the internet - doesn't understand why I'm so
>paranoid. We're working through this ..... someday she will realize that this is
>only going to happen on my terms and in my home!
Or you could play chaperone? (spelling?) Wouldn't she love that.
>>>>>Agreed! Everything tends to be a hassle though, at least for me. Someone did
>>>>>post instructions for using multiple sigs, but like you - I don't like how they
>>>>>automatically post all the way down at the bottom of the page. And in Agent, you
>>>>>don't have the option of cutting and pasting the sigs like you do in netscape -
>>>>>can't see it until after you hit send.
>>>>
>>>>Agent does have Edit/PasteSignature (I don't know if that's in Free
>>>>Agent?) where it will place your chosen signature at the current
>>>>location as follows:
>>
>>>Yup, that's what I've been using. I don't think the option is available in Free
>>>Agent though. Right now I'm using the trial version, which is actually Agent ...
>>>I have 3 weeks to decide if I want to pay the extra for it or revert to netscape.
>>>Another decision to be made.
>>
>>Funny about Agent. I think this was their first foray into allowing
>>all functions for a limited time. So that if you opted for some
>>functions like changing the tool bar, the extra functions remained
>>even after the evaulation. Unfortunately, they fixed that glitch! (G)
>>But I then decided I did like the functions and so registered. I've
>>decided I'm never going to retire anyway so might as well earn and
>>spend!
>I like my lifestyle much better ... dh earns, I spend - works well for us. <G> My
>philosophy is that we can't take it with us, and I don't feel it my obligation to
>leave it for my kids. We earned our money, they can earn their own. <GGGGG>
Good attitude.
>>>>>>The Bat shows attached jpg's in a separate tabbed window. But,
>>>>>>frankly, using two dos programs for email up till now really limited
>>>>>>much. Now I can see the attachments, can fire up some link a friend
>>>>>>sends, forward and reply to a group easily and cc and bcc to my hearts
>>>>>>content (G) Friends were complaining but, at least, I did not send
>>>>>>superfluous html and xxx.dat files like some of those MS programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do want to avoid any program that automatically opens attachments, has been nice
>>>>>so far in avoiding viruses/worms that always seem to be floating around. The only
>>>>>complaint I tend to get from my friends is that I am too darned slow in replying
>>>>>to emails. I still have one from over a year ago sitting patiently in my inbox
>>>>>... with about 50 other more recent ones. I admit to being bad in that
>>>>>department. <g>
>>>>
>>>>Uh, oh! I'm pretty good. I guess some of us do think email should be
>>>>quickly answered. Some friends are more like you.
>>>
>>>I know, I know - emails should be answered ... I'm just horribly slow. I try to
>>>save them for when I have time to think straight - then it never happens. And
>>>there are just so many of them. <G> Kind of like this newsgroup, is awfully hard
>>>to keep up sometimes.
>>
>>Yes occasionally, this place overflows with messages. I can just see
>>what happens in a few weeks if I take vacation..... Oh, the microwave
>>just announced my healthy choice is done (G)
>
>I don't want to think about leaving for a vacation, it's been bad enough only
>missing a day! Hope you enjoyed that healthy choice dinner.
>
It was okay. Limited my points. Enough so that I did it again the
next night. The one after was my cooking - some shrimp, veggies in
an oil-free stir fry. Shrimp are terrific - nearly pointfree! (G)
Nathalie W
"joyce" <jo...@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:1cqn8v038qjh7j2ag...@4ax.com...
>I met a bunch of people 5 years ago, through
> a beanie baby collecting newsgroup (yes, I WAS one of >those wierdos - but
I blame it on my kids).
Ahum ! Time to fess up here : every time I visit the US I bring a Beanie
baby back home :-) I discovered them 10 years ago (we don't have them here)
and thought they were so funny ! So I guess I 'm one of those weirdo's - lol
!
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Joy
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joyce
>
>"joyce" <jo...@nothere.com> wrote in message
>news:1cqn8v038qjh7j2ag...@4ax.com...
>
>>I met a bunch of people 5 years ago, through
>> a beanie baby collecting newsgroup (yes, I WAS one of >those wierdos - but
>I blame it on my kids).
>
>Ahum ! Time to fess up here : every time I visit the US I bring a Beanie
>baby back home :-) I discovered them 10 years ago (we don't have them here)
>and thought they were so funny ! So I guess I 'm one of those weirdo's - lol
LOL! And I was afraid to even mention them. My kids started me on them, back
before anyone ever heard of them. The creator used to visit our local Hallmark
store and beg them for free shelf space to see if he could find a market. Wow,
how long ago was that? LOL You wouldn't believe what they used to have. I say
*used to* because when the craze hit hard they sold their played with/tagless toys
off ... and made some danged good money. Who would ever think a stilly stuffed
animal would pull in over $900!
Joyce
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WW GOAL!!! 2/21/03 ---> LIFETIME 4/4/03
joyce
>On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 02:06:42 -0600, joyce <jo...@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>>>MS knows what we need and will force it down out throats! The pizza
>>>dinner (there it is again) was actually with a group of friends that
>>>started out on a bbs about 10+ years ago. We started getting together
>>>at an occasional party. Then as bbsing faded, we turned it into
>>>alternating breakfast and lunch with an occasional dinner event. One
>>>of the women got into computers due to geneology. We still have a
>>>terrific time. But have moved beyond computers to all kinds of
>>>general stuff.
>>
>>Your group sounds like a lot of fun. I met a bunch of people 5 years ago, through
>>a beanie baby collecting newsgroup (yes, I WAS one of those wierdos - but I blame
>>it on my kids). A few of us were from the chicago area, did get together once ...
>>for that pizza. No one collects anymore, yet we still all remain in contact. I
>>just received an email tonite that they are trying to find a way for all of us to
>>meet up in Vegas sometime in the near future ... if I answer the email in time.
>><G> My daughter is currently annoyed with me for not letting her meet some young
>>boy she has been chatting with on the internet - doesn't understand why I'm so
>>paranoid. We're working through this ..... someday she will realize that this is
>>only going to happen on my terms and in my home!
>
>Or you could play chaperone? (spelling?) Wouldn't she love that.
That was an option, not one she was thrilled with. I played a game with her, had
the boy take pictures of himself in various positions while holding a sign that
said *Cassie's mom, I am real*. Made him email them within a few minutes time -
figured it was a close enough option to somewhat verify that he wasn't some old
kook looking for little girls. He also lives towards the city (Lake Forest, I
think) so have asked him to take the train out and visit one day. I don't think
I'm being unreasonable here - she does. I remember living through those trusting
youth years also, probably drove my mom nuts with all the stupid things I did ...
and sometimes am amazed that I'm still around and able to re-tell the stories. <G>
>>>Funny about Agent. I think this was their first foray into allowing
>>>all functions for a limited time. So that if you opted for some
>>>functions like changing the tool bar, the extra functions remained
>>>even after the evaulation. Unfortunately, they fixed that glitch! (G)
>>>But I then decided I did like the functions and so registered. I've
>>>decided I'm never going to retire anyway so might as well earn and
>>>spend!
>
>>I like my lifestyle much better ... dh earns, I spend - works well for us. <G> My
>>philosophy is that we can't take it with us, and I don't feel it my obligation to
>>leave it for my kids. We earned our money, they can earn their own. <GGGGG>
>
>Good attitude.
eh, it works for me! <G>
>>>Yes occasionally, this place overflows with messages. I can just see
>>>what happens in a few weeks if I take vacation..... Oh, the microwave
>>>just announced my healthy choice is done (G)
>>
>>I don't want to think about leaving for a vacation, it's been bad enough only
>>missing a day! Hope you enjoyed that healthy choice dinner.
>>
>
>It was okay. Limited my points. Enough so that I did it again the
>next night. The one after was my cooking - some shrimp, veggies in
>an oil-free stir fry. Shrimp are terrific - nearly pointfree! (G)
I made the same thing last week, used scallops instead of shrimp cuz daughter has
a current aversion to shrimp. <G> Not quite point free, but still logged in at
under 4 points for a heavy sized portion. Load it up with veggies and you can get
away with lots. The sauce was a tad heavy on the sodium, but it sure was good and
will be made again.
Joyce
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WW GOAL!!! 2/21/03 ---> LIFETIME 4/4/03
Fred
>On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 06:48:25 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 02:06:42 -0600, joyce <jo...@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>><G> My daughter is currently annoyed with me for not letting her meet some young
>>>boy she has been chatting with on the internet - doesn't understand why I'm so
>>>paranoid. We're working through this ..... someday she will realize that this is
>>>only going to happen on my terms and in my home!
>>
>>Or you could play chaperone? (spelling?) Wouldn't she love that.
>
>That was an option, not one she was thrilled with. I played a game with her, had
>the boy take pictures of himself in various positions while holding a sign that
>said *Cassie's mom, I am real*. Made him email them within a few minutes time -
>figured it was a close enough option to somewhat verify that he wasn't some old
>kook looking for little girls. He also lives towards the city (Lake Forest, I
>think) so have asked him to take the train out and visit one day. I don't think
>I'm being unreasonable here - she does. I remember living through those trusting
>youth years also, probably drove my mom nuts with all the stupid things I did ...
>and sometimes am amazed that I'm still around and able to re-tell the stories. <G>
Good scheme there. I think it sounds reasonable in this day and age.
Just tell her "this odd, old guy I'm chatting with agrees!!!!" That
should go over well.
>>>>Funny about Agent. I think this was their first foray into allowing
>>>>all functions for a limited time. So that if you opted for some
>>>>functions like changing the tool bar, the extra functions remained
>>>>even after the evaulation. Unfortunately, they fixed that glitch! (G)
>>>>But I then decided I did like the functions and so registered. I've
>>>>decided I'm never going to retire anyway so might as well earn and
>>>>spend!
>>
>>>I like my lifestyle much better ... dh earns, I spend - works well for us. <G> My
>>>philosophy is that we can't take it with us, and I don't feel it my obligation to
>>>leave it for my kids. We earned our money, they can earn their own. <GGGGG>
>>
>>Good attitude.
>
>eh, it works for me! <G>
It sounds like it.
>>>>Yes occasionally, this place overflows with messages. I can just see
>>>>what happens in a few weeks if I take vacation..... Oh, the microwave
>>>>just announced my healthy choice is done (G)
>>>
>>>I don't want to think about leaving for a vacation, it's been bad enough only
>>>missing a day! Hope you enjoyed that healthy choice dinner.
>>>
>>
>>It was okay. Limited my points. Enough so that I did it again the
>>next night. The one after was my cooking - some shrimp, veggies in
>>an oil-free stir fry. Shrimp are terrific - nearly pointfree! (G)
>
>I made the same thing last week, used scallops instead of shrimp cuz daughter has
>a current aversion to shrimp. <G> Not quite point free, but still logged in at
>under 4 points for a heavy sized portion. Load it up with veggies and you can get
>away with lots. The sauce was a tad heavy on the sodium, but it sure was good and
>will be made again.
I should do scallops. I really like them but I don't think Costco has
larger bags of them (G)
joyce
>>>><G> My daughter is currently annoyed with me for not letting her meet some young
>>>>boy she has been chatting with on the internet - doesn't understand why I'm so
>>>>paranoid. We're working through this ..... someday she will realize that this is
>>>>only going to happen on my terms and in my home!
>>>
>>>Or you could play chaperone? (spelling?) Wouldn't she love that.
>>
>>That was an option, not one she was thrilled with. I played a game with her, had
>>the boy take pictures of himself in various positions while holding a sign that
>>said *Cassie's mom, I am real*. Made him email them within a few minutes time -
>>figured it was a close enough option to somewhat verify that he wasn't some old
>>kook looking for little girls. He also lives towards the city (Lake Forest, I
>>think) so have asked him to take the train out and visit one day. I don't think
>>I'm being unreasonable here - she does. I remember living through those trusting
>>youth years also, probably drove my mom nuts with all the stupid things I did ...
>>and sometimes am amazed that I'm still around and able to re-tell the stories. <G>
>
>Good scheme there. I think it sounds reasonable in this day and age.
>Just tell her "this odd, old guy I'm chatting with agrees!!!!" That
>should go over well.
If I told them I was chatting with an odd old guy, they would just assume I meant
*dad* - no one is older or odder than him! <G>
>>>>>Yes occasionally, this place overflows with messages. I can just see
>>>>>what happens in a few weeks if I take vacation..... Oh, the microwave
>>>>>just announced my healthy choice is done (G)
>>>>
>>>>I don't want to think about leaving for a vacation, it's been bad enough only
>>>>missing a day! Hope you enjoyed that healthy choice dinner.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It was okay. Limited my points. Enough so that I did it again the
>>>next night. The one after was my cooking - some shrimp, veggies in
>>>an oil-free stir fry. Shrimp are terrific - nearly pointfree! (G)
>>
>>I made the same thing last week, used scallops instead of shrimp cuz daughter has
>>a current aversion to shrimp. <G> Not quite point free, but still logged in at
>>under 4 points for a heavy sized portion. Load it up with veggies and you can get
>>away with lots. The sauce was a tad heavy on the sodium, but it sure was good and
>>will be made again.
>
>I should do scallops. I really like them but I don't think Costco has
>larger bags of them (G)
And how big do you need? I buy them at Sam's Club or Trader Joes - think they are
about 1.5 pounds maybe?
Joyce
started ww 2/5/02 ---> 228.8/143/150ww goal/140ish personal goal