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Pluto
besides Xenical & Phentermine I bought something called (IFA NOREX) it was
in 50Mg. Strength. Does anyone know what this is? or does anyone know of a
good pharmacy down there that they use for my next trip? also does anyone
know if you can get stronger medications down there if you go to an actual
doctor down there instead of just going to the pharmacy yourself? Last
question then i'll shut up! has anyone got any info on the NEW diet drug in
final trials from "Amgen" I think its Lipten, or leptin or something like
that?
JAK
also be on the box.
I am going by memory, so don't take this as gospel.
JAK
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Steve Dyer
JAK <jan...@ieee.org> wrote:
>IFA Norex , I believe is tenuate--"antefemona" in Spanish (spelling) should
>also be on the box.
If it's Tenuate, it would be something like amfepramona, or amfepramone
in English. The non-proprietary name is diethylpropion in the US, but
amfepramone seems to be the name used in Europe (and Mexico!)
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JAK
remember a light green box which resided in my desk drawer for ages.
JAK
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Barbara Hirsch
>IFA Norex , I believe is tenuate--"antefemona" in Spanish (spelling) should
>also be on the box.
The spelling is anfepramona, but I'm not sure if it is tenuate
(diethylpropion) or not. I've never heard of this one before.
I took a look at the package insert in Spanish, stimulant made for use
as an obesity medication. The on-line prescription information is
pretty standard. If you can read Spanish, the URL is:
http://www.ifa.com.mx/Norex.htm
I've got a package insert for tenuate on my site, which says basically
the same thing in English at:
http://www.obesity-news.com/tenuate.htm
>> Last question then i'll shut up! has anyone got any info on the NEW diet drug
>> in final trials from "Amgen" I think its Lipten, or leptin or something like
>> that?
It's leptin, but it isn't anywhere near final trials. I'd say we're
talking at least 3-5 years.
Leptin is a hormone produced by fat issue that regulates a number of
endocrine functions including metabolism. Mice that are leptin
deficient or have non functional leptin receptors are fat.
However, most obese people have high leptin levels and no
abnormalities in their leptin receptors, leading researchers to
hypothesize that the majority are leptin resistant.
This is a similar to what occurs in the development of type-2
diabetes, which is characterized by high levels of insulin
(hyperinsulinemia) and obesity. Insulin resistance developed from
chronic hyperinsulinemia and a defect in pancreatic beta cells results
in type-2 diabetes (also known as non-insulin dependent diabetes
mellitus, or adult-onset diabetes).
The leptin trials have had mixed results. Some people have lost a lot
of weight, some a little, and some gained a little weight. Another
complication in administering leptin is that it is a peptide. Peptides
cannot be administered orally because of the size of the molecule. In
the trials, leptin is being administered by injection. Oral drugs are
currently being developed that will stimulate the body's production of
leptin, but those are still in early development.
Researchers have not discovered what causes leptin resistance, or
whether giving patients very large doses of leptin will overcome
leptin resistance. In addition, in clinical trials some subjects
developed reactions, not only at the injection site, but also
systemically. These could be exacerbated if the dose was significantly
increased.
That should give you a little background, we've got a leptin page on
my site with some additional information, and a newsletter in which I
write about leptin trials. We're about to put up a long leptin review
in a couple of days. Most of the newsletter requires a subscription,
but some of the articles are publicly available. Here's the URL to the
public leptin page:
http://www.obesity-news.com/leptin.htm
Barbara
Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
December issue: Focus on leptin
http://www.obesity-news.com/
Andy
> If it's Tenuate, it would be something like amfepramona, or amfepramone
> in English. The non-proprietary name is diethylpropion in the US, but
> amfepramone seems to be the name used in Europe (and Mexico!)
Tenuate Dospan in the UK, however it was banned in the UK some time ago due
to it's dangerous side effects - Phentermine is still available as Duromine
& Ionamine and in some clinics Dexedrine is still prescribed for Obesity
Where BMI > 30, technically the NHS should offer surgical intervention at
this BMI but I can't find a doctor who will refer for this!
Andy,
Steve Dyer
Andy <An...@Andyd.com> wrote:
>Tenuate Dospan in the UK, however it was banned in the UK some time ago due
>to it's dangerous side effects - Phentermine is still available as Duromine
>& Ionamine and in some clinics Dexedrine is still prescribed for Obesity
>Where BMI > 30, technically the NHS should offer surgical intervention at
>this BMI but I can't find a doctor who will refer for this!
Dangerous side effects? In the US, Tenuate is generally considered even
safer and milder than phentermine! (Of course, the UK severely restricted
the sale of the anti-diarrheal drug Imodium/loperamide because children
were said to be dropping dead, whereas the same drug is sold OTC in the
USA, even for children, who still seem to be alive after taking it.)
When a drug becomes "tainted", or even withdrawn from the market
in a country, I'm convinced that it usually has little to do with
a drug's pharmacology, but instead it's a combination of mass hysteria
and inexplicable cultural factors that often make no sense to foreigners.
(And the US isn't immune to this, by any means.)
--
Steve Dyer
dy...@ursa-major.spdcc.com
Dr. G
know if there is anyplace in the world where you can buy Fenfluramine?
In article <vOmh4.962$xZ3....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, Pluto
<slu...@gte.net> wrote:
> I went to TJ this past weekend and bought some diet medications
> besides Xenical & Phentermine I bought something called (IFA NOREX) it was
> in 50Mg. Strength. Does anyone know what this is? or does anyone know of a
> good pharmacy down there that they use for my next trip? also does anyone
> know if you can get stronger medications down there if you go to an actual
> doctor down there instead of just going to the pharmacy yourself? Last
Andy
supermarket. Most drugs are used on children without licensing, ie they are
licensed for adult use only.
I have quite a different view regarding withdrawl of products from markets,
the medicines should be suspended as soon as it becomes clear that doctors
are reporting significant side effects. Halcion springs to mind, long since
banned in the UK & europe but still available in the US. Tenuate is linked
to epilepsy in the UK.
Whilst Dexfenfluramine has been withdrawn from sales in most countries (but
available by mailorder from india & thailand) is isomer fenfluramine is
still licensed for use in the uk (which it has been for quite a number of
years). The US definitley got the Thalidomide licensing right though,
although it's interesting to see it's re use as a treatment for leprosy. The
regulatory process for licensing new drugs has become a barrier to the
effective treatment of many illnesses, 10 to 15 years is far too long to
withold promising treatments, the FDA in particular seems to enjoy delaying
the introduction of new drugs. In the UK the MCA provides a similar but
faster approval process with built in mechanisims that have allow shortend
drug approval process in cases where no or ineffective treatment exists (and
of course the illness must be life threatining) re AZT.
Furthermore the fact that the US fails to provide medical treatment for
millions of it's citizens is nothing short of a disgrace, I have followed a
number of newsgroups where people express their need to locate a cheaper
source for a medication because they cannot afford the monthly cost. Have a
look at the chronic pain group and read about the number of ill people who
can't afford to buy the medicines they require to reduce their suffering,
others complain that the DEA puts so much pressure on the GP's that they are
unwilling to supply anything stronger than a NSAID. Some don't even get a
referal to a Pain specalist because they can't afford it. Meanwhile billions
of dollars are spent on B1 bombers..... Crazy.... Why isn't their a popular
uprising demanding a nationalised health care system perhaps based on the
Canadian / British system.
Sorry, Rant over.
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prescribe dexedrine to treat obesity forever with no luck!
Dee Kay
getting harder to get, my GP will only give a one off pescription (30 tabs)
You say it can be bought OTC in the US,
at what price? The last box I bought cost $57.75 Aus
Does anyone else out there know of anything available in Australia that can
be bought over the counter, that is worth giving a try?
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Steve Dyer
No, I didn't say that. Tenuate is a prescription drug in the US.
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> I went to TJ this past weekend and bought some diet medications
> besides Xenical & Phentermine I bought something called (IFA NOREX) it was
> in 50Mg. Strength. Does anyone know what this is? or does anyone know of a
> good pharmacy down there that they use for my next trip? also does anyone
> know if you can get stronger medications down there if you go to an actual
> doctor down there instead of just going to the pharmacy yourself? Last
> question then i'll shut up! has anyone got any info on the NEW diet drug in
> final trials from "Amgen" I think its Lipten, or leptin or something like
> that?