HAPPY THANKSGIVING :)
Loretta Eisenberg
Gobble, gobble, I want to wish you all a blessed thanksgiving with all
the trimmings. just watch those portions and eat to your meter. Too
much turkey may have your falling asleep at the table, lol
Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
Loretta
--
I
Michelle C.
Happy Thanksgiving right back at you, Loretta! And a Happy Thanksgiving
to everyone else too. :-)
Best regards,
Michelle C., T2, no meds
Michael
I second that emotion.
Michael
TaniO
(in article <9388-4B0...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>):
Same to you, Loretta, and to everyone one else on ASD.
TaniO
> Loretta
>
> --
> I
>
Cheri
news:anUOm.258827$Jp1.1...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
As do I. Everyone have a great day and be safe.
Cheri
ray
Too bad that the real meaning of Thanksgiving has been lost. Now, it's
just 'turkey day'.
Anon
"Loretta Eisenberg" <Ron...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9388-4B0...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
On Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year and Easter I pretend I am not a
diabetic. Of course, I do use enough insulin to keep BG from going through
the roof.
Cheri
news:7n31b5F...@mid.individual.net...
Really? That hasn't been the case with anyone I know, and Loretta did say
she wished everyone a blessed Thanksgiving, so where's your beef?
Cheri
Loretta Eisenberg
Those people are not very happy about themselves and their lives. Lets
ignore him and not spoil the thread
--
I
W. Baker
: "Michael" <mic...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
: Cheri
thanks Loretta. I do love this holiday on which we all eat Turkey and
vary the sides by our ethnicity or dietary issues. Symbolized some of the
best of the US as a place for all to be together, yet not cut out the
ancestral memories.
Wendy
Kurt
Thanks, Loretta...and the same to you. I'm having quite a few people
over but luckily I'm having it catered so all I have to do is be the
charming host, which is in itself a lot of work. :)
Kurt
Cheri
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Kurt
==============
Braggart. ;-) Seriously, have a great one Kurt.
Cheri
Kurt
> "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
You, too, Cheri!
Kurt
Cheri
You, too, Cheri!
Kurt
============
Since Miguel left for Mexico, I'm having to cook my own, but the family at
the ranch has shrunken so much that I should get by with some Chex Mix, and
a nice flower arrangement, oh... and lots of booze for Billy. ;-)
Cheri
ray
My beef is with all the ads promoting 'black Friday' - building up the
feast aspect - nothing about giving thanks. My beef is about 'holiday'
decorations etc. all over the place - they used to have the decency to
wait until the end of November. My beef is about the 'shop until you
drop' mentality - that it is our civic duty to spend ourselves out of a
recession. My beef is about the $8000 tax credit which is getting more
and more folks into new homes they can't afford. If I recall, that's how
this whole mess started.
Cheri
Only if you buy into all that crap Ray, I don't know anybody who does,
except maybe corporate America. I don't do the collective "our" at any rate,
and I hope you're smart enough not to either. Around here, I'm seeing a lot
of donations to those less fortunate, and a lot of time that people are
spending volunteering. I have donated, I will be volunteering since hubby is
working on Thanksgiving and the kids are out of state this year, what will
you be doing? BTW, I have never been to a black Friday in my life, have you?
Cheri
Peppermint Patootie
Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> Happy Thanksgiving to you, too, Loretta, and to everyone who celebrates it.
+1
BTW, the stuffing I experimented with a few years ago in order to
minimize spiking after Thanksgiving dinner is now officially the entire
family's favorite stuffing.
Priscilla's lower carb stuffing
-------------------------------
Amounts are really by eye, so don't hold me to these numbers:
6 - 8 slices of low-carb bread (I'm using Pepperidge Farm these days),
picked into bits (preferably while watching Macy's Thanksgiving Day
parade)
1 - 1.5 cups walnuts, chopped fine
3 - 4 big ribs of celery, chopped fine
2 - 3 onions, chopped fine
2 big cloves garlic (don't skimp on the garlic)
3 - 4 slices of fresh ginger root, peeled and minced fine
fresh thyme, rosemary, and sage, minced
Saute the onions and celery in extra virgin olive oil. When it's
translucent, add the garlic and ginger, then the herbs, and continue
sauteing for a few minutes until you can smell the seasonings. Turn off
heat and let it cool down.
In a big bowl, combine bread and walnuts. If you have cooked up the
giblets from the turkey, mince them and add them in. Spoon the cooked
aromatic veggies over the lot. Salt and pepper to your liking, then
gently fold the ingredients with a big spoon.
Stuff into your turkey (do NOT pack it in tightly!) and fasten it up
with string and turkey lacers.
Roast the turkey however you're accustomed to. (I have reverted back to
the cheesecloth method.)
Remember to spoon out all the stuffing from the turkey after the meal to
allow the cavity to cool more quickly. Otherwise you may poison your
family on the leftovers. Seriously. BTDT, although, thank goodness, I
was the only one to get sick.
I'm doing a 25 lb turkey this year. I think it's my biggest. While
there will be only five for dinner, I have two households who *love*
leftover turkey to supply. And some cats. ;-)
Priscilla, T2
ray
Well, now that you ask - I don't patronize BF 'events' - I have better
things to do with my life. What will I be doing on Thanksgiving? We'll be
having a small dinner with my mother in law (since she happens to be the
only living parent either of us has - and our children all live out of
state). I'll also be spending a significant time in prayer and giving
thanks. I won't be volunteering - I do that the rest of the year. I
happen to do quite a bit of volunteer work for various organizations.
One can obviously 'not buy into that crap' - however it's pretty
difficult to ignore it - it's all around.
RodS
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gobble, gobble, I want to wish you all a blessed thanksgiving with
>>>>>> all the trimmings. just watch those portions and eat to your meter.
>>>>>> Too much turkey may have your falling asleep at the table, lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Loretta
Well I wont be celebrating Thanksgiving :-) Always wondered why they
decided to have it so close to Christmas is it so you can finish at
Christmas the family arguments that started at Thanksgiving :-) I think
the turkeys here are glad we don't have Thanksgiving, we don't get
anywhere as much turkey and turkey products you have, looking forward to
Christmas dinner tho, Ham, roast pork, roasted chickenm roast veges,
peas gravy. Then plum pudding with custard and cream or brandy sauce.
All this in the middle of summer so we suffer for our traditional
Christmas dinner, sometimes it can be 30c at lunch time. Not a pumpkin
pie in sight only roasted pumpkin :-)
Happy turkey day
--
(- -)
=m=(_)=m=
RodS T2
Australia
noego
news:9388-4B0...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
>
occasion is worth wishing people well.
Henry.
Ozgirl
What is Black Friday?
Ozgirl
Who is cooking? I will be back in NSW for Xmas and my daughter always does
lots of seafood plus cold roast meats and salads. Last year it was lots of
fresh, king prawns, lobster mornay, oysters kilpatrick and mornay plus roast
pork, chicken and freshly cut leg ham off the bone. Its a sort of 5 hour
feast, lol.
Ozgirl
> On Nov 24, 7:46?am, Rone...@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote:
>> Gobble, gobble, I want to wish you all a blessed thanksgiving with
>> ?Too much turkey may have your falling asleep at the table, lol
>>
>> Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
>>
>> Loretta
>>
>> --
>> I
>
> Thanks, Loretta...and the same to you. I'm having quite a few people
> over but luckily I'm having it catered so all I have to do is be the
> charming host, which is in itself a lot of work. :)
>
> Kurt
Forget the host bit, I want to know about the food? What are you having?
RodS
can only stand up at workbench for about 5 mins at a time so prep is in
lots of little stages :-)
Kurt
Just be glad you don't have Esther helping you or it will be pigs in a
blanket. :)
Kurt
Kurt
Someone else took care of the menu choices, but I told them to make
sure to include plenty of food for carnivore and vegetarian alike. All
the traditional Thanksgiving stuff, but in Cali most people are pretty
health conscious and I know the caterer was chosen with that in mind.
I don't usually overeat on holidays, not because I'm so disciplined,
but just don't like that too full feeling.
Kurt
GysdeJongh
news:9388-4B0...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
> Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
The Heart Scan Blog
Dr. William Davis
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/
Meal timing and frequency is clearly is not three meals per day plus
snacking ala the typical U.S. grazing pattern.
Here are a few examples:
--The Ingalik Hunter Gatherers of Interior Alaska: The principal meal and
sometimes the only one of the day is eaten in the evening.
--The Guayaki (Ache) Hunter Gatherers of Paraguay: The evening meal is the
most consistent of the day.
The daily eating pattern that is beginning to emerge from the ethnographic
literature in hunter-gatherers is that of a large single meal which was
consumed in the late afternoon or evening. This pattern of eating could be
described as intermittent fasting relative to the typical Western pattern.
In other words, the notion of "grazing," or eating small meals or snacks
throughout the day, is an unnatural situation. The notion of grazing has
seized hold of many people's thinking.
In my view (Dr. William Davis !!), grazing is a destructive practice that is
self-indulgent, unnecessary, and simply fulfills the perverse non-stop
hunger impulse fueled by modern carbohydrate foods. Eliminate wheat,
cornstarch, and sugars and you will find that grazing is a repulsive impulse
that equates with gorging......
W. Baker
: In article <7n2iqmF...@mid.individual.net>,
: Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
: +1
: Priscilla, T2
Not doing Thanksgiving myself this year, but I will make a turkey Friday
oso I can have all the leftovers and not cook for a week:-)
I will also do a low carb bread stuffing, not recipe, but I do add
mushrooms, both chenked portobello and regular either white of Crimini.
No nuts but all the ususal vegetalbes in humongous quantities, including
green pepper and leeks, if I feel flush. I bake it outside the turkey
for the vegetarians in our bunch and may try a new suggestion I heard this
year to make it in a crock pot to relieve oven space.
Happy thanksgiving again to all, even all those Brits, aussies, New
Zealanders , Dutch andm, of course Canadians who have alwready celebrated
Thanksgiving.
Wendy
W. Baker
: What is Black Friday?
The Friday after Thanksgiving when all the store have big sales and
shoppers flock to them. the name is supposed to be that on that day the
stores go into the black, earning money rahter being in the red, loosing
money. The name and the crazy frienzied sales are a fairly recent
phenomenon. People line up at stores hours before opening to get one of
the lmited supplies of whatever .
Wendy
Loretta Eisenberg
in Walmart was trampled to death by the customers who couldnt wait to
get their hands on the deals. I dont go to the stores during the
holidays. I have bought everything already on line or through qvc or
amazon. I get claustrafobic in large crowds. Never did a Black Friday
and most likely never will.
People go at their own risk
Loretta
--
I
Peppermint Patootie
"W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote:
Some people deliberately boycott shopping on Black Friday to protest
consumerism.
Frankly, after putting on the meal for my family (including my critical
mother who just called to say she's on the bus headed down from NH), I
find that day a perfect one for the sofa and a good book. OK, I'm
getting my hair cut this Friday, but otherwise it's a day of REST for
the busy host!
PP, T2
Peppermint Patootie
wrote:
> One can obviously 'not buy into that crap' - however it's pretty
> difficult to ignore it - it's all around.
If I turn off the electronics, it's not there any more.
PP
Peppermint Patootie
RodS <fr...@fred.com> wrote:
> Well I wont be celebrating Thanksgiving :-) Always wondered why they
> decided to have it so close to Christmas is it so you can finish at
> Christmas the family arguments that started at Thanksgiving :-)
Christmas wasn't a big deal until the past century or so. It's not even
that big a religious holiday! It's no higher than third in importance
on the Christian calendar. The first being Easter, then Pentecost, then
Christmas.
In the US, Thanksgiving didn't become a tradition until 1863, and it
didn't become a federal holiday until 1941. This is according to
wikipedia, which also notes that it originated as religious but morphed
into a secular observation.
I commend the wikipedia article to you. It's full of fascinating info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_%28United_States%29
PP
Gary Woods
>Some people deliberately boycott shopping on Black Friday to protest
>consumerism.
And I saw some TV marketing type yesterday saying that prices tend to be
lowest about two weeks after Black Friday, so if you don't want to get up
at Oh-dark-thirty...
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
ray
Have you read a newspaper in the last month?
ray
One more reason to consider the true meaning of Thanksgiving - try
parsing it - has nothing to do with gorging.
Peppermint Patootie
wrote:
That's a bit of a non sequitur. I was proposing a solution, not
trotting out my own behavior as an exemplar.
I'm not bothered by all the hype, since I know it's not for or about me.
PP
Peppermint Patootie
wrote:
Another non sequitur. I made no mention of how much anyone eats.
Putting on a major meal which is full of traditions for one's family is
a lot of work, no matter how much the guests eat or do not eat.
You're just dead set on finding the negative in everything, aren't you?
You might want to look at getting some help with that. It can't be good
for your health.
PP
Peppermint Patootie
Gary Woods <garyu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Peppermint Patootie <Peppermin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Some people deliberately boycott shopping on Black Friday to protest
> >consumerism.
>
> And I saw some TV marketing type yesterday saying that prices tend to be
> lowest about two weeks after Black Friday, so if you don't want to get up
> at Oh-dark-thirty...
I'm pretty much done with my Christmas shopping. I know what my family
members like and need, and I don't need to wait for the last minute to
get them. When a good buy comes along, I get it and tuck it away.
Frenzy is not good for my body, mind, or spirit, so I do my best to
avoid it. Frankly, I'd rather be cooking or reading a good book.
PP
Paul L
Happy Thanksgiving to one and all that choose to celebrate this year !
cheers
Paul
ray
Quite the contrary. We'll be doing the 'good' part of Thanksgiving.
Giving thanks.
ray
Actually, I'd just rather folks celebrate Thanksgiving rather than
'turkey day'. Obviously you enjoy spending a day and a half in the
kitchen while everyone else lounges around stuffing themselves and
enjoying each other. If that's your bag - go for it.
Cheri
> Actually, I'd just rather folks celebrate Thanksgiving rather than
> 'turkey day'. Obviously you enjoy spending a day and a half in the
> kitchen while everyone else lounges around stuffing themselves and
> enjoying each other. If that's your bag - go for it.
Actually, most people I know do that every day, making meals for their
families, being thankful that they're all well or whatever the case may be,
not just on Thanksgiving Day, but if that's the only day that you set aside
to do it, I can see that the preparation might be a little overwhelming for
you. Spread some of that out through the year, and your happiness factor
will improve greatly.
Cheri
Cheri
news:hejs6e$r5$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> Happy Thanksgiving to one and all that choose to celebrate this year !
>
>
> cheers
>
> Paul
Same to you Paul. :-)
Cheri
Michelle C.
>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:46:29 -0500, Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gobble, gobble, I want to wish you all a blessed thanksgiving with all
>>>>> the trimmings. just watch those portions and eat to your meter. Too
>>>>> much turkey may have your falling asleep at the table, lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too bad that the real meaning of Thanksgiving has been lost. Now, it's
>>>> just 'turkey day'.
>>>
>>> Really? That hasn't been the case with anyone I know, and Loretta did
>>> say she wished everyone a blessed Thanksgiving, so where's your beef?
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> My beef is with all the ads promoting 'black Friday' - building up the
>> feast aspect - nothing about giving thanks. My beef is about 'holiday'
>> decorations etc. all over the place - they used to have the decency to
>> wait until the end of November. My beef is about the 'shop until you
>> drop' mentality - that it is our civic duty to spend ourselves out of a
>> recession. My beef is about the $8000 tax credit which is getting more
>> and more folks into new homes they can't afford. If I recall, that's how
>> this whole mess started.
>
>
> Only if you buy into all that crap Ray, I don't know anybody who does,
> except maybe corporate America. I don't do the collective "our" at any
> rate, and I hope you're smart enough not to either. Around here, I'm
> seeing a lot of donations to those less fortunate, and a lot of time
> that people are spending volunteering. I have donated, I will be
> volunteering since hubby is working on Thanksgiving and the kids are out
> of state this year, what will you be doing? BTW, I have never been to a
> black Friday in my life, have you?
>
> Cheri
+1
Michelle C., T2, no meds
Michelle C.
>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:46:29 -0500, Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gobble, gobble, I want to wish you all a blessed thanksgiving with
>>>>>>> all the trimmings. just watch those portions and eat to your meter.
>>>>>>> Too much turkey may have your falling asleep at the table, lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Loretta
>
>
>
> decided to have it so close to Christmas is it so you can finish at
> the turkeys here are glad we don't have Thanksgiving, we don't get
> anywhere as much turkey and turkey products you have, looking forward to
> Christmas dinner tho, Ham, roast pork, roasted chickenm roast veges,
> peas gravy. Then plum pudding with custard and cream or brandy sauce.
> All this in the middle of summer so we suffer for our traditional
> Christmas dinner, sometimes it can be 30c at lunch time. Not a pumpkin
> pie in sight only roasted pumpkin :-)
>
> Happy turkey day
>
>
Thanks Rod! Actually, the reason Thanksgiving occurs where it does, is
that the supposed dinner that occurred with the colonists and Native
Americans occurred after harvest. So it had to be at least in the fall.
:-)
Best regards,
Michelle C.
> RodS wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:46:29 -0500, Loretta Eisenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gobble, gobble, I want to wish you all a blessed thanksgiving
>>>>>>>> with all the trimmings. just watch those portions and eat to
>>>>>>>> your meter. Too much turkey may have your falling asleep at
>>>>>>>> the table, lol Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Loretta
>>
>>
>> Well I wont be celebrating Thanksgiving :-) Always wondered why they
>> decided to have it so close to Christmas is it so you can finish at
>> Christmas the family arguments that started at Thanksgiving :-) I
>> think the turkeys here are glad we don't have Thanksgiving, we don't
>> get anywhere as much turkey and turkey products you have, looking
>> forward to Christmas dinner tho, Ham, roast pork, roasted chickenm
>> roast veges, peas gravy. Then plum pudding with custard and cream or
>> brandy sauce. All this in the middle of summer so we suffer for our
>> traditional Christmas dinner, sometimes it can be 30c at lunch time.
>> Not a pumpkin pie in sight only roasted pumpkin :-)
>>
>> Happy turkey day
>
> lots of seafood plus cold roast meats and salads. Last year it was lots of
> fresh, king prawns, lobster mornay, oysters kilpatrick and mornay plus roast
> pork, chicken and freshly cut leg ham off the bone. Its a sort of 5 hour
> feast, lol.
>
>
Hmmm. Sounds like I need "beam in" first to Rod's house and then yours
at Christmas. :-)
Michelle C.
I agree, BB. I scan the headlines online for important info, but ignore
the things that do not pertain to me and the things that I cannot do
anything about. That gives me precious little to read--and my health
and attitude is better for it.
Michelle C.
> On Nov 24, 7:46�am, Rone...@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote:
>> Gobble, gobble, I want to wish you all a blessed thanksgiving with all
>> the trimmings. �just watch those portions and eat to your meter. �Too
>> much turkey may have your falling asleep at the table, lol
>>
>> Enjoy yourselves, but not too much :-)
>>
>> Loretta
>>
>> I
>
> Thanks, Loretta...and the same to you. I'm having quite a few people
> over but luckily I'm having it catered so all I have to do is be the
> charming host, which is in itself a lot of work. :)
>
> Kurt
The important thing is sharing time with friends and family, Kurt.
Looks like you've got your celebration well planned. Have a good one!
Michelle C.
Michelle C.
Right back at you. :-)
Michelle C.
W. Baker
: In article <hejevs$fg6$2...@reader1.panix.com>,
: "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote:
: PP, T2
I assume, munching on left over turkey. that is something I just
love!!Since we are going to my son this Thanksgiving, fisrt time in25
years for menot to be cooking, I will make a simple turkey dinner for
Shabbat on Friday night so I can have all the leftovers. My other som was
supposed to come Friday but now will be coming Saturday so he and his
family will miss the fresl prepared turkey(I don't cook on Shabbat) but
will have the first night of sliced turkey with hot gravy on it and the
dressing, of wich I expect ot have lots of left over.
I have made enough S/F cranberry sauce for the both houseolds and will be
making 2 apple nut topped pies? cobblers? betties? one for tomorrow and
one for Sat. night. I think that Syud will be able to help peel the
apples.
Wendy
W. Baker
Most holidays in various religions involve family get togethers and
feasting, take Christmas, Easter, Passover, Shavuot(dairy and cheesecake
usually), Rosh Hahana, , End of Ramadan andthe upcoming feast observing
the sacrifice of Ishmael in Islam. Good food goes with the celebratory
an, often thankful ascpect of the day, particularly Thanksgiving which is
a harvest festival well celebrated with the fruits of the harvest, for
which we are thankful. You can be thankful and enjoy the abundance. It
is not a day for aescetic thanks and physical denial.
Wendy
Ozgirl
Sounds like it! My daughter always loves to do a great feast at Xmas.
Strangely its mostly eaten with the plates on our laps, wherever one can
find a spot to eat - lol. Last year it was in the lounge room where the air
con was. The year before outside on the verandah. No idea what's happening
this year.
Michelle C.
Mmmm. Christmas feast on the verandah in summer sounds lovely. :-)
It's probably a good thing I really can't "beam in". LOL!
Michelle C.
Loretta Eisenberg
I wont go near a mall or a store from now till after Christmas, way
after.
I did most of my shopping on line and from tv.
Loretta
--
I
sometimers
When the children were young I tried to convince the family
to celebrate according to the Greek calendar. It didn't work.
I had hoped to save a significant amount by buying once the
after holiday sales kicked in.
Peppermint Patootie
wrote:
Unbelievable. "Obviously" nothing. Doesn't matter what I write.
You'll just read what you expect.
PP
Kurt
Thanks, Michelle. The same to you. I think we all have lots to be
thankful for this year...not the least of which is that we made it
another year! :)
Kurt
Peppermint Patootie
Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Peppermint Patootie wrote:
>
> > Unbelievable. "Obviously" nothing. Doesn't matter what I write.
> > You'll just read what you expect.
>
> I feel kind of sorry for him.
>
> Not enough to take him out of my kill file, but I think he's kind of
> down right now.
>
> Susan
Yeah, that's kinda what I meant about his negativity not being good for
him and that he should see someone about it. Depression is rife around
the holidays, and while I do feel pity (and sympathy, being a depressive
myself) for people in the grips of it, I don't need to cave in to their
effects. I spent too much time as a child having myself be sacrificed
to the supposed good of my depressive father. Nuh uh. I won't plaster
a smile on my face anymore and not stand up against the spill over.
PP
Michelle C.
> is good for knowing when the knitting group is meeting, and for obits,
> but not much else. Even the "news" articles seem to assume that
> you're getting your information from the local gossips, since there's
> precious little in the articles themselves. My seventh grade
> journalism teacher would be rolling over in her grave. :-)
>
> In keeping with the topic title -- hope you had/are having a happy
> Thanksgiving! :-)
Right back at you, BB!
Michelle C.