A1C Blood Test OK for Diabetes Diagnosis
lololo
Dec. 29, 2009 -- The American Diabetes Association (ADA) is
recommending that a simple blood test currently used to assess whether
diabetes is under control also be used to diagnose the disease
Michael
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> Susan
According to this test, I don't have T2. However, I realize for those
who are completely unaware of having T2, it may have some efficacy. If I
ate like most people, that test would certainly ring an alarm.
Susan, about two years ago, I had an A1C done. It came out at 4.8. I was
eating low carb but not intensely low carb (about 60 simple carbs per
day). My IR developed pretty rapidly in that period of time. I once
thought IR always developed slowly over time, but for me it turned up
the volume rather quickly.
Michael
Michelle C.
A high A1c may in fact be a good indicator of diabetes. However, a low
A1c does not rule it out. That is the problem.
Sheesh!
Michelle C.
Kurt
> http://diabetes.webmd.com/news/20091228/a1c-blood-test-ok-for-diabete...
> Dec. 29, 2009 -- The American Diabetes Association (ADA) is
> recommending that a simple blood test currently used to assess whether
> diabetes is under control also be used to diagnose the disease
Despite the alarmists, there is nothing wrong with this at all. In
fact, it's a good thing. They are not saying it's the *only* test to
be used for diagnosis but one more tool to help in early detection.
Kurt
Ozlover
Please don't spoil a perfectly good rant with common sense! What fun
is *that*? Didn't you read the protocol, which was ever so clearly
written between the lines?
--
Frank Slootweg
W
news:Pqr_m.280788$mn3.1...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com:
WITH AN AC OF 5.0 YOUR INSULIN RESISTANCE IS VERY MILD *IF* IT
EXISTS AT ALL AND NOT JUST IN YOUR HYPOCHONDRIACAL IMAGINATION.
BUT OF COURSE YOU WONT ACCEPT THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CLINICAL
SIGNS OF DIABETES OR INSULIN RESISTANCE??? SO FAR I HAVE NOT HEARD
OF ANY, EXCEPT YOUR OVERACTIVE COMPULSIVE IMAGINATION.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD SEE A SHRINK?
R
news:hhdgj4$2dk$2...@news.albasani.net:
NO THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE SO CALLED IDIOT EXPERTS DON'T KNOW AND
CANNOT COME TO AGREEMENT ON A TEST RESULT THAT IS DEFINITIVE FOR
DIABETES. AC1 IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE UNIVERSALLY AGREED UPON
STANDARDS FOR WHAT IS DIABETES AND WHAT IS NOT. AND THE BGTT IS
USUALLY NOT GIVEN CUZ THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO IT.
YOU SEE THEIR BOTTOM LINE IS NOT TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR PATIENT, BUT
TO DO WHAT IS EXPEDIENT AND PROFITABLE. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY
SUFFERING DIABETICS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN DIAGNOSED.
Cheri
Maybe you should see someone about having the CapsLock key removed from your
ass.
Cheri
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Kurt <kurtwhee...@hotmail.com> in news:f7995e48-3429-4fb0-a8eb-
b5da10...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
THEY ARE WRONG OF COURSE, NORMAL AC1 LEVELS CAN BE AS LOW AS 4's,
not 5's.
THE AC1 TEST IS NOT DEFINITIVE,IT'S NOT THE BEST TEST, JUST A MAYBE
TEST, SO MAYBE LESS THAN WORTHLESS.
THE QUACKTORS AND OTHER SO CALLED EXPERTS NEED TO FIND A BETTER TEST
OR START USING A BETTER TEST TO MAKE THE DIAGNOSIS AND DETERMINE THE
CAUSES FOR THE CONSTELLATION OF SYMPTOMS THAT IS VAGUELY DIAGNOSED
AS DIABETES, INSULIN RESISTANCE AND (WHAT NEXT?) INVASION BY EVIL
SPIRITS?, SINCE THAT IS ABOUT HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO DETERMINING WHO
IS DIABETIC AND WHO IS NOT. MAYBE EVEN DO AWAY WITH THE TERM
DIABETES TILL THEY KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT?
Michael
A1c, if high may indicate diabetes. An A1c of 5.0 only indicates that I
am eating well. Take it easy with the shots there.
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> BUT OF COURSE YOU WONT ACCEPT THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CLINICAL
> SIGNS OF DIABETES OR INSULIN RESISTANCE??? SO FAR I HAVE NOT HEARD
> OF ANY, EXCEPT YOUR OVERACTIVE COMPULSIVE IMAGINATION.
>
> MAYBE YOU SHOULD SEE A SHRINK?
My BG shoots up like a rocket if I eat simple carbs. My bg tolerance
test shot way up but did not stay there long enough for a diagnosis of
T2. My official diagnosis was pre-diabetes.
When I got home from a knee operation, my BG was 200. They had me on a
ringer bag and unplugged me to go home.
If you think a shrink can cure that reaction to a Ringer bag I would
surely go. Why such aggressive behavior here?
Michael
Michael
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> Maybe you should see someone about having the CapsLock key removed from
> your ass.
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> Cheri
>
Sorry for responding. If anyone has any suggestions to improve my kill
file with this character, please let me know.
Michael
Michael
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> Michael wrote:
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>> My BG shoots up like a rocket if I eat simple carbs. My bg tolerance
>> test shot way up but did not stay there long enough for a diagnosis of
>> T2. My official diagnosis was pre-diabetes.
>
> oral glucose tolerance test, or OGTT.
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> Susan
That's what I meant Susan. They gave me a glass of horrible tasting
syrup. If they wanted to test my tolerance for sugar, they could have at
least let me eat something I liked with the same amount of sugar.
Michael
BTW, I am working on learning how to make my killfile work better. I am
sure there are those here who are experts.
Ozgirl
I guess you didn't actually read the article. Or if you did, you didn't
comprehend what you saw? An IQ over 50 might be helpful?
Michelle C.
elegant way to say it. ;-)
Michelle C.
Julie Bove
There is no such thing as mild diabetes. His A1c shows that his diabetes is
under control. And no need to SHOUT!
Julie Bove
"Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Oh, so that's the problem!
Julie Bove
"Michael" <mic...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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They are testing you for glucose. Not just sugar.
alfred
$mn3.2...@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com:
don't bother mike, cuz you won't be able to killfile me, u might
temporarily, but not permanently. face it, your a hypochondriac.
worrying about every little fluctuation in your BG. don't u know
that the Ac1 is an average of your blood sugar over time and that it
is highly doubtful there is anything serious wrong with you blood
sugar control with an ac1 of 5.0
hmm
@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com:
Maybe you have problem, but I am thinking that since your A1C test
is 5.0 that means your bg is not high enuf for a long enough period
of time to classify you as diabetic or prediabetic. Do you have data
that shows that normals do not have wide bg reading spikes? Perhaps
you're not the only one? If you bg was high for an extended period,
then you A1c would be high also. Again, what OTHER symptoms do you
have that would indicate that you BG is causing problems? You have
not mentioned any that I see. Your spot readings are not enuf.
k
@mid.individual.net:
If you're going to refer to "the article" kindly state what the hell
YOU are talking about, or do you expect me to read the empty space
between your ears?
Does not invalidate my conclusions about quack doctors and general
ignorance about what diabetes is. Maybe just a theoretical
construct, not a defineable disease.
Fact is there are as many definitions of diabetes as there are quack
doctors out there.
Also to the other poster (was it julie) diabetes is a not a yes or
no disease, since they don't have either a good test for it or a
standard everyone agrees on.
okok
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> "W" <W...@W.COM> wrote in message news:hhdss6$n64$1
No I was just having a transitory infamous Michael blood glucose
spike, sorry. ;-)
Julie Bove
"alfred" <alf...@knopff.com> wrote in message
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Hmmm... Who do we know that doesn't use CAPS and spells "you're" as "your"?
I can think of someone. Yep.
Julie Bove
Julie Bove
"k" <k...@k.com> wrote in message news:hhereh$uo9$3...@news.albasani.net...
Seriously? I was diagnosed via a random finger stick and it was confirmed
by an A1c. Yeah, I know that only works if it is high. Mine was. 10.0. I
failed the OGTT when pregnant.
I believe there *is* a good test and a standard that everyone agrees on for
diagnosis. But the problem for some of us is in finding out exactly what
type we have. Only some though. For most it's likely not a problem as the
treatment is the same.
Ozgirl
You were the one who contradicted the article content, not me:
"THE AC1 (sic) TEST IS NOT DEFINITIVE,IT'S NOT THE BEST TEST, JUST A MAYBE
TEST, SO MAYBE LESS THAN WORTHLESS.
THE QUACKTORS AND OTHER SO CALLED EXPERTS NEED TO FIND A BETTER TEST OR
START USING A BETTER TEST..."
Now, with the above comments of yours in mind, go back and read the article
again.
Michelle C.
Michelle C., T2 no meds.
Loretta Eisenberg
Loretta
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noego
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old - who's flunked out Primary School.
Henry
Julie Bove
"noego" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Someone who uses initials and it's not bgl.