Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Polenta & the honeymoon

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Donna

unread,
Jul 30, 2008, 10:23:21 PM7/30/08
to
I had some plain polenta this evening and found that it didn't cause a
major spike at an hour or two hours. So for now, it's a safe food.

96 pre, 129 1 hour post. 120 2 hours post.

I'll fiddle around with 1 and 2 hour readings and get some more detailed
levels to provide myself with some assurance that I'm doing the right
things.


The initial honeymoon is easing up. For the last couple days, I've had to
remind myself that I'm eating properly because I have diabetes, not because
I'm on a diet. After a life of "trying to lose weight," and having that as
a constant goal, I'm having a few moments of "aw F* it" that I have to
fight. The first couple weeks, I ate properly because I have diabetes. I am
now eating properly because I have to remind myself I have diabetes. I know
I'm not explaining this very well, but I'm ready for the testing and eating
appropriately to become old hat and commonplace. Or will I have to remind
myself every day that I have diabetes? It's almost habit now to reach for
the meter first thing in the morning, last thing at night, and before and
after meals. So much focus on food.

Consider me having a frustrating moment.

--
~Donna A~
http://diabetesandme.wordpress.com/
http://www.thesewingdictionary.com

Julie Bove

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 12:02:06 AM7/31/08
to

"Donna" <do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AEBE3BB3F9DCdo...@69.16.185.250...

I'm confused. Are you type 1? Because the term "honeymoon" applies only to
them.

For a while I was eating thin slices of polenta for breakfast topped with
some tomato sauce and some pumpkin seeds on the side. Worked for my BG but
I wasn't digesting it well. :(


krom

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 12:02:26 AM7/31/08
to
The reality of it gets much easier if you just think of the other stuff as
poison..which it is for us..it literally can kill us.

Then after you accept that you get the fun..which really is fun of
discovering the multitude of foods you CAN eat and the great dished you will
create.

The focus on trying new foods and testing recipes was and still is a blast.

Some of the foods i eat now are far better then my old standards.

Instead of some crap store bought frozen cube of chemicals calling itself
ice cream..with pices of black wax calling itself chocolate...i eat real
full cream ice cream with real chocolate and whole pieces of good nuts like
macadamias...and it of course tastes like heaven...doesnt spike me and
eating real..good foods im LOSING weight!

So yeah you can look it as a pain or a loss..or look at it as a fun
challenge to eat real..delicious things and become a true gourmet instead of
shoveling food like substances in and being sick..lol

KROM

"Donna" <do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AEBE3BB3F9DCdo...@69.16.185.250...

Donna

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 12:16:45 AM7/31/08
to
"Julie Bove" <juli...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:g6rdft$v4p$1...@aioe.org:

> I'm confused. Are you type 1? Because the term "honeymoon" applies
> only to them.

By honeymoon, I mean my initial period after diagnosis. I have no idea what
honeymoon means in terms of type 1.

Donna

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 12:17:46 AM7/31/08
to
"krom" <thekromre...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:g6rdgg$v5b$1...@aioe.org:

> So yeah you can look it as a pain or a loss..or look at it as a fun
> challenge to eat real..delicious things and become a true gourmet
> instead of shoveling food like substances in and being sick..lol

I'm looking at it ss a challenge, and I'm not one to back down from those.

Alan S

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 3:14:27 AM7/31/08
to
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:23:21 GMT, Donna
<do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote:

>The initial honeymoon is easing up. For the last couple days, I've had to
>remind myself that I'm eating properly because I have diabetes, not because
>I'm on a diet. After a life of "trying to lose weight," and having that as
>a constant goal, I'm having a few moments of "aw F* it" that I have to
>fight. The first couple weeks, I ate properly because I have diabetes. I am
>now eating properly because I have to remind myself I have diabetes. I know
>I'm not explaining this very well, but I'm ready for the testing and eating
>appropriately to become old hat and commonplace. Or will I have to remind
>myself every day that I have diabetes? It's almost habit now to reach for
>the meter first thing in the morning, last thing at night, and before and
>after meals. So much focus on food.
>
>Consider me having a frustrating moment.

Try to adjust things a little so that the menu is one you
like, as well as being one that works for BGs. This isn't a
diet. It's for the rest of your life.


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)

John C.

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 8:45:56 AM7/31/08
to
On Jul 30, 10:23 pm, Donna <do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com>
wrote:

> The first couple weeks, I ate properly because I have diabetes. I am
> now eating properly because I have to remind myself I have diabetes. I know
> I'm not explaining this very well, but I'm ready for the testing and eating
> appropriately to become old hat and commonplace. Or will I have to remind
> myself every day that I have diabetes? It's almost habit now to reach for
> the meter first thing in the morning, last thing at night, and before and
> after meals. So much focus on food.
>
> Consider me having a frustrating moment.
>
> --
> ~Donna

Oh, believe me, you're explaining yourself perfectly. I bet most of us
can identify with the thought processes you're going through right
now. I know I can.

After a time, it'll become easier. You'll settle into healthier habits
and a way of eating that will become habit.

John C.

W. Baker

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 12:18:23 PM7/31/08
to
Donna <do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote:
: I had some plain polenta this evening and found that it didn't cause a

: --
: ~Donna A~

Donna,

Keep at it and it will become easier. It is a change of "lifestyle" not a
diet! You are trying to find what foods and cominations of foods work for
you adn then you can do as I do, think of it as a competition with the
diabetes. I find ways to cook things I ove in a non-carby way and just
laugh at the diabetes, which though it "got me." For example, my diabetic
spaghetti dishes, like using spaghetti squash or whole string beans with
pasta sauce and browned, sliced hot Italian sausage. Really makes a
great dinner.

My husband is very accomodating, so we often have meals with no carb
course except a smlall fruit or dish of berries for dessert. He had
cookie snack that he keeps out of the kitchen and out of sight. I
actually know his hiding place, but I don't keep seeing his chocolate chip
cookies. By now this is all second nature to me and I don't find myself
fighting all the time, but early days it was hard. That's where reading
this froup daily helps, as we are all in this together and we know we are
not weird or along and after al, would you really want to feel you are
not up to our standards:-)

End of pep talk!

Wendy

bgl

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 12:26:33 PM7/31/08
to
"Alan S" <loralgtwei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ggp294turjtbdlv2k...@4ax.com...

>
> Try to adjust things a little so that the menu is one you
> like, as well as being one that works for BGs. This isn't a
> diet. It's for the rest of your life.
>

One of the vendors at a recent race had some shirts that said things like
"life is a marathon".

I suggested "Diabetes is a marathon" -- she seemed to like the idea, maybe
it'll turn up next year.
bj


Michelle C

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 3:07:12 PM7/31/08
to

"Donna" <do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AEBE3BB3F9DCdo...@69.16.185.250...

Hi Donna,

You're explaining yourself quite well. I guess in some ways I was "lucky"
because I felt so crappy before I changed my diet that I could feel a
definite benefit to changing my lifestyle. You couldn't pay me to eat high
carb and feel the way I felt before. That said, if nothing else, at least
make yourself test and I bet you'll find you have an aversion to seeing
those higher numbers.
--
Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
BMI 21.5


Nicky

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 5:21:37 PM7/31/08
to
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:23:21 GMT, Donna
<do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote:

>The initial honeymoon is easing up. For the last couple days, I've had to
>remind myself that I'm eating properly because I have diabetes, not because
>I'm on a diet. After a life of "trying to lose weight," and having that as
>a constant goal, I'm having a few moments of "aw F* it" that I have to
>fight. The first couple weeks, I ate properly because I have diabetes. I am
>now eating properly because I have to remind myself I have diabetes. I know
>I'm not explaining this very well, but I'm ready for the testing and eating
>appropriately to become old hat and commonplace. Or will I have to remind
>myself every day that I have diabetes? It's almost habit now to reach for
>the meter first thing in the morning, last thing at night, and before and
>after meals. So much focus on food.
>
>Consider me having a frustrating moment.

You're doing very well, Donna - don't beat yourself up : ) I think
it's a question of re-educating habits and approaches - and some of
them are very ingrained. It took me months and months before I was
able to buy muffins for my carb-eaters' breakfasts - and months more
before I was able to make them for them again. Now they get home-made
ones as an occasional treat - and I don't even want to lick the spoon;
it's now firmly in my head that flour is a poison for me. Put a
chocolate mousse on the table, though, and I want some - but I'm happy
now with maybe a tenth of the portion size I would have had once.

Like Krom, I'm actually enjoying the gastronomic challenge. I think of
myself as diabetic - but it's no longer a major characteristic, as it
was around dx. Now it's just something I work around.

As for the "Ah, F^% it" moments - sometimes I do. But they're really,
really rare - maybe one or two a year. I have this image of the eye
filling up with glucose and not being able to escape, maybe this time
doing permanent damage... I don't cope with that degree of risk very
well! That's the advantage of testing, of course - if you do decide to
dive in to whatever temptation is there, at least you know what you're
doing to yourself - you stay honest. And you know it's time to get
your walking shoes on, or whatever...

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25

Donna

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 9:09:47 PM7/31/08
to
"Michelle C" <bookb...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:g6t2h5$ehu$1
@registered.motzarella.org:

> I felt so crappy before I changed my diet that I could feel a
> definite benefit to changing my lifestyle.

Oh, I feel MUCH better. Energy levels are up. I sleep better. I just was
having a moment. I cooked up sprouts tonight instead of noodles and they
were good too. I had a different kind of sprouts with lunch. I'm
experimenting with all sorts of produce items. It's actually kind of fun in
a sick sort of way. I'm running the marathon that someone else mentioned
and I'll do really well in the race, but I'll have some times where I don't
feel like running anymore. I'm hoping that makes me relatively normal.

Donna

unread,
Jul 31, 2008, 9:11:00 PM7/31/08
to
Nicky <ukc802...@btconnect.com> wrote in
news:oga494lvssg3jlji3...@4ax.com:

> you stay honest.

Y'all are the best.

Honesty and integrity are the bottom line.

Message has been deleted

krom

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 1:20:14 AM8/1/08
to
I have been watching martin yans china last several weeks on pbs and i
notice that alot of the true small villiage chinese dishes used uncooked
shreeded cabbage or lettuce as the holder of the sauces instead of the rice
one might expect..i used to eat at a place that served its spicy beef over a
bed of shredded nappa cabbage and i loved it so im gonna stat trying that
more in my dishes...im thinking things like hamburger cooked with cream of
mushroom soup served over it instead of rice or noodles would be delicious.

KROM

"Susan" <neve...@nomail.com> wrote >
> Some folks use a peeler to make shreds of zucchini as a pasta substitutes,
> but that's too watery for me, even sauteed.
>
> The best of all is fauxtatoes; soft cooked (I nuke it) cauliflower pureed
> with butter, salt and pepper, or better yet, Boursin cheese, a whole
> package per head of veggie.
>
> Susan


Alan S

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 2:02:07 AM8/1/08
to

We have a poster on the ADA forum with a sig I liked as soon
as I saw it:

This IS a marathon, not a sprint!

Alan S

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 2:03:23 AM8/1/08
to
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:09:47 GMT, Donna
<do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote:

>"Michelle C" <bookb...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:g6t2h5$ehu$1
>@registered.motzarella.org:
>
>> I felt so crappy before I changed my diet that I could feel a
>> definite benefit to changing my lifestyle.
>
>Oh, I feel MUCH better. Energy levels are up. I sleep better. I just was
>having a moment. I cooked up sprouts tonight instead of noodles and they
>were good too. I had a different kind of sprouts with lunch. I'm
>experimenting with all sorts of produce items. It's actually kind of fun in
>a sick sort of way. I'm running the marathon that someone else mentioned
>and I'll do really well in the race, but I'll have some times where I don't
>feel like running anymore. I'm hoping that makes me relatively normal.

Even in martathons they have refreshment stations. Take a
little time at yours:-)

W. Baker

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 11:33:01 AM8/1/08
to
Nicky <ukc802...@btconnect.com> wrote:
: it's now firmly in my head that flour is a poison for me. Put a

: chocolate mousse on the table, though, and I want some - but I'm happy
: now with maybe a tenth of the portion size I would have had once.

: Like Krom, I'm actually enjoying the gastronomic challenge. I think of
: myself as diabetic - but it's no longer a major characteristic, as it
: was around dx. Now it's just something I work around.

Nicky,

Have you ever tried my tofu cocolate mousse> Easy adn lovely. Just whap
up in the food processor 12-16 oz of silken tofu add 5-7 oz meltedd
unsweetened chocolate (or a mixture of bking chocolate and
moisten, heated sosoa powder in equivalent amounts)cocoaadn add whatever
sweetener you like, splenda,
aspartame , etc. to taste. It usually needs a gret deal of sweetener.
chill and serve. Particualrly nice served with fresh rasberries.

Wendy

Nicky

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 12:19:33 PM8/1/08
to
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:33:01 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com>
wrote:

>Have you ever tried my tofu cocolate mousse

Yes, actually - it's the only useful use for tofu I ever discovered :D
But I tend to avoid soy products where possible, on account of the
thyroid, so haven't repeated it. These days I tend to just use cream
and dark choc...

Message has been deleted

Michelle C

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 2:41:03 PM8/1/08
to

"Donna" <do...@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AECD73D54D52do...@69.16.185.247...

Oh heck yeah, you're normal! :-)

I'll confess, I gave into a f*^k it moment just one time. It was after a
family reunion where I drank wine. I NEVER drink wine--and I found out why.
Had a terrible hangover. Thought I would die--and still had company for a
couple of days. The only thing that I thought would save me was a real
grilled cheese sandwich. It did help. And I didn't test. Learned my
lesson too. ;-)

Now, the only times I get the urge to say the hell with it, is when I'm
tired. I HATE being tired for this reason.

So glad to hear you are feeling better, and that you faced your moment and
it passed. Like the others have mentioned, I really like the foods I eat
now, so much better than I what I was eating before. I eat something, enjoy
it, and feel satisfied. When I was eating the usual amount of carbs, I
never felt satisfied.

You're doing very well, Donna!

W. Baker

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 4:00:54 PM8/1/08
to
Susan <neve...@nomail.com> wrote:
: x-no-archive: yes

: Nicky wrote:
: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:33:01 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com>


: > wrote:
: >
: >
: >>Have you ever tried my tofu cocolate mousse
: >
: >
: > Yes, actually - it's the only useful use for tofu I ever discovered :D
: > But I tend to avoid soy products where possible, on account of the
: > thyroid, so haven't repeated it. These days I tend to just use cream
: > and dark choc...

: >


: I make mousse with cream, lots of cream...

: Susan

Doesn't work for a meat meal for me and b etter than raw eggwhites.

Wendy

Message has been deleted

Nicky

unread,
Aug 1, 2008, 5:40:18 PM8/1/08
to
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:00:54 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com>
wrote:

>Doesn't work for a meat meal for me and b etter than raw eggwhites.

Don't know what sparked it, but I just had a taste image of half a
frozen mango whipped with the tofu... mmmmmm.....

krom

unread,
Aug 2, 2008, 12:56:15 AM8/2/08
to
this is my recipe..tastes better then bakers square french silk:


Chocolate heaven low carb chocolate pie


Ingrdients:

One pound and eight ounces high percent chocolate or baking chips

1/2 stick butter

6 eggs seperated

1 tsp vanillia

1/2 cup splenda and 1/4 cup xylitol or favorite sugar substitute

1/4 cup heavy whipping cream

pinch of salt

Instructions:

1. Melt chocolate with butter and vannila over double boiler or microwave.

2. combine seperated yolks with cream till smooth.

3. once chocolate is melted mix a small amount of the choclate into the yolk
mixture to temper the yolks and then mix into the melted chcolate.

4. whip egg whites with the salt to soft peak and mix in the sugar
substitute until stiff peak.

5. mix some of the egg whites into the chocolate to cool and then fold the
chocolate into the whites until well combined and pour into baking dish or
pie dish and bake at 250 degrees for 50 minutes.

6. once pie is cooled after baking let it cool in the refridgerator for at
least 3 hours.

Note: this pie is so rich as is you probably will want a small sliver as is
or with a small dollop of whipped cream.

This pie would be excellent with pecans or nut of choice, such as macadamia
nuts.

orange or almond liqour would also be delicious in this recipe.

KROM

"Susan" <neve...@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:6fh18bF...@mid.individual.net...
> x-no-archive: yes


>
> Nicky wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:33:01 +0000 (UTC), "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Have you ever tried my tofu cocolate mousse
>>
>>
>> Yes, actually - it's the only useful use for tofu I ever discovered :D
>> But I tend to avoid soy products where possible, on account of the
>> thyroid, so haven't repeated it. These days I tend to just use cream
>> and dark choc...
>>
>
>

Michelle C

unread,
Aug 2, 2008, 2:43:52 PM8/2/08
to
Thanks krom! I'm keeping this one. :-)

--
Best regards,
Michelle C., T2
diet & exercise
BMI 21.5

"krom" <thekromre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g70pda$9h0$1...@aioe.org...

Trinkwasser

unread,
Aug 3, 2008, 9:24:33 AM8/3/08
to

I dropped a number of things that I assumed I couldn;t eat any more.

Recently I've been discovering that in fact I can eat them provided I
use portion control and admix them with other things appropriately.

However I've discovered that I don't really like them very much any
more because of all the other things I eat instead.

Like a lot of things, after a while it becomes semi-automatic.

Donna

unread,
Aug 3, 2008, 12:12:16 PM8/3/08
to
Trinkwasser <sp...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in
news:o7cb9413591ced45d...@4ax.com:

> Like a lot of things, after a while it becomes semi-automatic.
>

I think semi-automatic will work. I need to stay vigilant and not become
too comfortable with foods. I definitely don't want to become passe about
this.

0 new messages