How do you control your bloodpressure
BDR529
I'm using an ACE inhibitor (aprovel, 300 mg daily) and a water pill,
hydrochloortiazide, 10 mg once daily.
This got my BP down from on average 160/95 in the beginning of July to
around 140/83 now.
The 140/83 is probably still not good enough, it is an average.
Sometimes I get 125/75, sometimes the old fashioned 150/90 back again.
The values vary simply a lot and you have to take a few measurements a
few days apart to get something I trust.
A better bloodpressuremeter does help, and also, a newer cuff that is
more flexible and wide enough also makes sense.
The only factor that really affects my BP values is plain old fashioned
sleep, and maybe also sufficient water rather than too much coffee on a
day. I add maybe, because I don't see a convincing relation to anything.
But, a few nights with insufficient sleep easily drive the values up,
and it is simply hard to "sleep it away" again.
Exercise does seem effective. Hiked 7 km to downtown last Sunday, 30
minute lunch walks also bring my BP down.
Weight loss is effective, went from BMI's around 31 to 26 now, and it
does affect the systolic values.
Yet, play a few days till deep in the night with exiting new software on
your MacBook and the BP jumps up again. Would it be that Apple?
All suggestions are welcome,
Q
Freckles
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A glass of milk will always help lower my BP in just a few hours after
drinking it.
Yes, milk is full of carbs, but if I drink it later in the day it does not
effect my BG too badly.
I have heard it's the calcium in milk which helps lower one's BP, but I find
drinking just an occasional glass of milk is all it takes, so I never have
tried taking calcium supplements.
As you mentioned drinking water, and keeping hydrated also seems to have a
great bearing on keeping my BP under control.
Freckles.
Nicky
>Yet, play a few days till deep in the night with exiting new software on
>your MacBook and the BP jumps up again. Would it be that Apple?
Try it on Windoze as a comparison? :P
Sorry, can't help, my problem's low bp if anything. Is sleep loss
related?
Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 150ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.2% BMI 26
Bill who putters
Nicky <ukc802...@btconnect.com> wrote:
Sleep Med. 2008 Sep;9 Suppl 1:S23-8.
Metabolic consequences of sleep and sleep loss.
Van Cauter E, Spiegel K, Tasali E, Leproult R.
Department of Medicine, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 60637, USA.
evca...@medicine.bsd.uchicago.edu
Reduced sleep duration and quality appear to be endemic in modern
society. Curtailment of the bedtime period to minimum tolerability is
thought to be efficient and harmless by many. It has been known for
several decades that sleep is a major modulator of hormonal release,
glucose regulation and cardiovascular function. In particular, slow wave
sleep (SWS), thought to be the most restorative sleep stage, is
associated with decreased heart rate, blood pressure, sympathetic
nervous activity and cerebral glucose utilization, compared with
wakefulness. During SWS, the anabolic growth hormone is released while
the stress hormone cortisol is inhibited. In recent years, laboratory
and epidemiologic evidence have converged to indicate that sleep loss
may be a novel risk factor for obesity and type 2 diabetes. The
increased risk of obesity is possibly linked to the effect of sleep loss
on hormones that play a major role in the central control of appetite
and energy expenditure, such as leptin and ghrelin. Reduced leptin and
increased ghrelin levels correlate with increases in subjective hunger
when individuals are sleep restricted rather than well rested. Given the
evidence, sleep curtailment appears to be an important, yet modifiable,
risk factor for the metabolic syndrome, diabetes and obesity. The marked
decrease in average sleep duration in the last 50 years coinciding with
the increased prevalence of obesity, together with the observed adverse
effects of recurrent partial sleep deprivation on metabolism and
hormonal processes, may have important implications for public health.
PMID: 18929315 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
Alan S
At dx I was around 150/90 or worse.
I can only speak for myself.
My blood pressure improved in three stages.
1. Weight loss. That had the most effect. Losing about 25Kg dropped me
into the 130/80 range.
2. Dietary changes for BG improvement using post-prandial testing.
3. A daily half-bottle of red wine.
It's hard to tell which of the other two had the most effect to keep
me steadily around 120/75.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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BDR529
Still 5 kg to go, the hard bit.
> 2. Dietary changes for BG improvement using post-prandial testing.
ok
> 3. A daily half-bottle of red wine.
I would really appreciate to be able to drink alcohol again, but one
thing that causes me to become sick is the combination of wine and
metformin. That combination turns my stomach upside down (as we say),
unless I take the metformin in the morning all at once. But then the
pharmacist explained me that the combination of metformin and wine only
caused the metformin to be less effective.
Q
terryc
> Exercise does seem effective. Hiked 7 km to downtown last Sunday, 30
> minute lunch walks also bring my BP down.
Those regular (daily, min 3 per week) 30 minute walks are probably your
best bet.
Mine has been varying from 137/65 to 200/110 in the last 7 weeks fighting
infection. Shrug. I just decline to stress out over it as stress makes it
worse.
Loretta Eisenberg
with me is blood pressure. Do you take a diuretic, I hear that lowers
blood pressure. What has your doctor suggested. I dont think anyone
call will it away. stress doesnt help,but how does one control that.
Loretta
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RB
I take BP medicine but still was running a bit high.
I have taken fish oil caps for quiet some time but recently switched to
krill oil and have noticed that BP has come down several points. Readings
like 145/77 & 135/70 are now routinely 125/77 and I have even seen 110/75
several times recently.
Is it the krill oil? I really don't know but I do know that nothing else
has changed.
For a small investment might be worth checking it out.
RB
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Tim Shoppa
> I'm using an ACE inhibitor (aprovel, 300 mg daily) and a water pill,
> hydrochloortiazide, 10 mg once daily.
There are several different ACE inhibitors out there, and some of them
work more effectively than others, and they're available in different
doses. Other common brands: Altace, Lisinopril, Ramopril, and probably
a whole bunch of others.
With me, too much coffee and not enough sleep definitely add to the
blood pressure, perhaps more definitively than any other factor like
food or medicine.
Tim.
sometimers
Might be time for an angiogram/angioplasty?
In hindsight, I put it off far too long.
Tim Shoppa
wrote:
> TimShoppawrote:
I've only had diabetes 28 years now. Is this the time to get it done?
> In hindsight, I put it off far too long.
Tim.
sometimers
My suggestion had to do with blood pressure,
diabetes does not live in isolation to the
exclusion of all else.
But, since you are so certain you know what's
what, please, never mind my opinions. May I
state them anyway, or should I just go away?
Tim Shoppa
wrote:
> My suggestion had to do with blood pressure,
> diabetes does not live in isolation to the
> exclusion of all else.
>
> But, since you are so certain you know what's
> what, please, never mind my opinions. May I
> state them anyway, or should I just go away?
I actually don't know what's what. I've been referred to lots of
specialists over the past 28 years for every possible precautionary
measure, but never had an angiogram/angioplasty. I like to think I'm
being pretty aggressive with respect to heart disease etc. Do I just
self-refer myself to a cardiologist and tell them I think it's time
for an angioplasty?
Tim.
sometimers
Usually one approaches their GP and discusses high BP
as a problem. The usual route is to do a myoview
(there's a worldwide shortage in this product at the
moment) or thallium stress test first, and depending
on those results.
If such stress test results suggest, then a referral
is made to a cardiologist for further workup.
Images of heart motion are also helpful and can be
ordered by your GP.
You complain about exactly the sorts of blood pressures
I experienced and played the medications games with for
years, eventually landing in a cath lab again, where
the difficulties were well corrected. I am only on an
ace inhibitor (as far as BP meds go) and I am typically
at 122/75 (at age 70) at rest. Type 2 Diabetes diagnosis
~10 years
I no longer accept a shrug and a suggestion that some
other medication might help. At worse, I'll take a sample
and see how it plays.
You are your own best advocate.
Look for a "top 100 heart hospitals" if you pursue any
cardiac workups. I much prefer having the same cardiologist
do the intervention and the follow up.
Best of luck.
dumb_fishie99
Coq10. It helps the body utilize insulin better. I used to take
a high dose of it until I realized I'm one of those thyroid
patients whose BP is affected by low levels of thyroid hormone.
But I still take 200 mg a day of coq10, or now, I'm switching to
100 mg a day of Ubiquinol because it's more effective.
Niacin. I've been researching this recently: Niacinimide
is better for diabetics, and helps reduce bg's, and pure niacin
itself is better for reducing cholesterol. I'm going for the
niacinimide.
My BP's are also really good now that I added that. I can't handle
the pure niacin at all.
Consider getting your thyroid TSH levels checked, because
there is a link between diabetes and low thyroid. If the TSH levels
are too high, and you are not getting enough thyroid hormone,
your BP could be affected by that too.
Those 3 things really did it for me. Today my BP is
115/74.
However, I'm also on a complete regimen for helping the
circulation and heart health.
Wildbilly
wrote:
I control mine with Prunella vulgaris.
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Prunella+vulgaris
I let several grams (a small handful) of fresh Prunella soak in a
pitcher of water. After a couple of hours, the water lowers my B.P. and
will continue doing so for a couple of days. Using a cuff you can adjust
the dosage. I once went from 160/95 to 85/67 but usually it is around
130/85.
Like yarrow, Prunella is a vasodilator, and my doctor is unconcerned.
I'm also starting to experiment with yarrow.
http://www.pfaf.org/database/plants.php?Achillea+millefolium
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