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Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 7:09:08 AM4/16/13
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I just want to cry! I looked at the little syringe and I haven't a clue how
to get it to 15 units. It is only marked off in units of 10 and there are
very tiny black lines between there, indicating 2 units. Can I set it
between the two lines? But even if I could... I don't think there's anyway
that I feasibly can! The lines are so tiny and so close together that it
makes my eyes blur to try to see where I need it to be. And then there's
that black portion that appears to move up and down. Won't that impede me
even further from being able to see where to put it? I can easily see where
to put it for 10 units or 20 but not 15. Help!
Of course tomorrow is the day that they are not in the Drs. office. So...
*sigh* I wanted to start on this insulin tomorrow but am frightened to try
it now because I'll likely dial up the wrong dose. I am looking at it again
and it looks like the best I could do is to guess at where the black thing
should be. And even at that... The black thing is pretty thick! I don't
even know which side of it to use to get the dose.
to get it to 15 units. It is only marked off in units of 10 and there are
very tiny black lines between there, indicating 2 units. Can I set it
between the two lines? But even if I could... I don't think there's anyway
that I feasibly can! The lines are so tiny and so close together that it
makes my eyes blur to try to see where I need it to be. And then there's
that black portion that appears to move up and down. Won't that impede me
even further from being able to see where to put it? I can easily see where
to put it for 10 units or 20 but not 15. Help!
Of course tomorrow is the day that they are not in the Drs. office. So...
*sigh* I wanted to start on this insulin tomorrow but am frightened to try
it now because I'll likely dial up the wrong dose. I am looking at it again
and it looks like the best I could do is to guess at where the black thing
should be. And even at that... The black thing is pretty thick! I don't
even know which side of it to use to get the dose.
Freckles
Apr 16, 2013, 7:27:04 AM4/16/13
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:kkjbc1$qe0$1...@dont-email.me...
If you know the name of the device, go to Google on your computer and type
that name.
It's highly possible you will find the answer to your questions somewhere in
the responses that you will find there.
Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 7:54:05 AM4/16/13
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find an answer but it's not a good one. It is possible to set it to an odd
amount but very difficult to do. I did just try this out on the syringe. I
can do it but it takes me a very long time. I can't see up close with my
glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see well up
close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not help. They
only made things big and blurry. If she had dosed me at 14 or 16 units it
would have been easy. Easier still if it had been 10 or 20 units. But she
did not. :(
Freckles
Apr 16, 2013, 9:34:57 AM4/16/13
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My mistake, I thought you had an insulin pump.
I have not used insulin in a long time, but I have some syringes left. They
are BD brand and have a capacity of 0 to 30 units. Each syringe is marked
off in 5 units with marks of 1 units in between the 5 unit marks.
Maybe you need to look into getting this brand of syringe instead of the one
you have.
Freckles
Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 16, 2013, 12:01:10 PM4/16/13
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Julie Bove stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
I am a bit of a guesser, I would try 14 units. That one unit won't
differ very much with the 15 prescribed units. OTOH 16 units would be
one more than prescribed, I would not gamble on that ;-)
M.
differ very much with the 15 prescribed units. OTOH 16 units would be
one more than prescribed, I would not gamble on that ;-)
M.
Charly Coughran
Apr 16, 2013, 2:53:27 PM4/16/13
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in
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Do not inject insulin unless you are sure that the dose matches
what you are supposed to take. As I pointed out in my other
post, you could be overdosing by a factor of 5 if you have the
wrong syringe. An option that occurred to me after that post
is to go to your pharmacy and request a consultation with the
pharmacist. The pharmacist should be able to clear up the
syringe question and show you how to fill it and use it. Do
you know how and where to inject?
If you push the plunger down as far as it goes, the end of the
black plunger should line up with a line, which is often darker
than the major lines. This is 0. (Well it is close to zero,
but offset a little to take care of the insulin that resides in
the needle.) On the other end of the syringe there should be
an identification of the full capacity of the syringe. It will
be close to the last measurement number. Similar information
should be on the packaging. There also should be a unit
identifier there too, to let you know what the dosage marks
mean.
One problem is that insulin is measured in arbitrary units
cleverly called "units". This is a vestigial remainder from
the history of the discovery of insulin and often causes
confusion. Other possible units are cc or ml or fractions
thereof. If you have an actual insulin syringe, it will state
that it is only for use with U-100 or only with U-500 (if they
still make U-500 syringes) and the units will be "units". If
your syringe says "use only with U-500", then you are in fat
city.
If it is a generic syringe usable for U-500 it will be in
fractions of cc or ml. Note that 1cc and 1ml are exactly the
same volume. So 1 cc or 1 ml of U-500 by definition = 500
units of insulin. Therefore, 0.1 ml or cc = 50 units. 0.03 ml
or cc = 15 units. So if, for example, the syringe has a
maximum volume of 0.1 ml, 15 units will fill a little less than
a third of the syringe at which point there should be a 0.03 ml
marker line.
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what you are supposed to take. As I pointed out in my other
post, you could be overdosing by a factor of 5 if you have the
wrong syringe. An option that occurred to me after that post
is to go to your pharmacy and request a consultation with the
pharmacist. The pharmacist should be able to clear up the
syringe question and show you how to fill it and use it. Do
you know how and where to inject?
If you push the plunger down as far as it goes, the end of the
black plunger should line up with a line, which is often darker
than the major lines. This is 0. (Well it is close to zero,
but offset a little to take care of the insulin that resides in
the needle.) On the other end of the syringe there should be
an identification of the full capacity of the syringe. It will
be close to the last measurement number. Similar information
should be on the packaging. There also should be a unit
identifier there too, to let you know what the dosage marks
mean.
One problem is that insulin is measured in arbitrary units
cleverly called "units". This is a vestigial remainder from
the history of the discovery of insulin and often causes
confusion. Other possible units are cc or ml or fractions
thereof. If you have an actual insulin syringe, it will state
that it is only for use with U-100 or only with U-500 (if they
still make U-500 syringes) and the units will be "units". If
your syringe says "use only with U-500", then you are in fat
city.
If it is a generic syringe usable for U-500 it will be in
fractions of cc or ml. Note that 1cc and 1ml are exactly the
same volume. So 1 cc or 1 ml of U-500 by definition = 500
units of insulin. Therefore, 0.1 ml or cc = 50 units. 0.03 ml
or cc = 15 units. So if, for example, the syringe has a
maximum volume of 0.1 ml, 15 units will fill a little less than
a third of the syringe at which point there should be a 0.03 ml
marker line.
--
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W. Baker
Apr 16, 2013, 3:01:48 PM4/16/13
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
: I just want to cry! I looked at the little syringe and I haven't a clue how
Julie, this is scary!! could you get any advice from your Pharmacist? sometimes
they can be very knowledgeable and helpful. If you can
t reach your CDE or Endo, it might well be a place to start. It t really is
somehtng I woudl not want to fool around with either.
I agree with charlie tht you have to be very certain you understand everything when
you are getting instructions form your medical people. Take nots AND ask them to
write the instructions down or tell you where to get written instructions,
preferably, step by step.
I hope you get this straightened out very quickly.
Wendy
: I just want to cry! I looked at the little syringe and I haven't a clue how
they can be very knowledgeable and helpful. If you can
t reach your CDE or Endo, it might well be a place to start. It t really is
somehtng I woudl not want to fool around with either.
I agree with charlie tht you have to be very certain you understand everything when
you are getting instructions form your medical people. Take nots AND ask them to
write the instructions down or tell you where to get written instructions,
preferably, step by step.
I hope you get this straightened out very quickly.
Wendy
Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 4:27:37 PM4/16/13
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Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 4:38:32 PM4/16/13
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Maybe. But only certain ones can be used with this insulin. I am holding
it in my hand now. The needle is sooo long! I don't want to shoot it. :(
Well, I did it but I feel like I am going to pass out. The needle didn't
actually hurt but the thought of it going into me made me sick. And I don't
think I took the right dose. I managed to pull it back to the right amount
but from there, everything got clumsy. Once I turned the bottle upside down
and tried to draw the syringe back, everything got all clumsy. It was next
to impossible to hold both things at once. Then I pulled back the syringe
too far and a drop of insulin plopped out.
I had to started over. Took me three attempts and I still don't think I got
the dose right. I think I took one unit too little. It was impossible for
me to read the markings while everything was upside down like that. Maybe
this will get better with time, but I don't see how. And now the spot where
I injected is starting to hurt really badly. :(
it in my hand now. The needle is sooo long! I don't want to shoot it. :(
Well, I did it but I feel like I am going to pass out. The needle didn't
actually hurt but the thought of it going into me made me sick. And I don't
think I took the right dose. I managed to pull it back to the right amount
but from there, everything got clumsy. Once I turned the bottle upside down
and tried to draw the syringe back, everything got all clumsy. It was next
to impossible to hold both things at once. Then I pulled back the syringe
too far and a drop of insulin plopped out.
I had to started over. Took me three attempts and I still don't think I got
the dose right. I think I took one unit too little. It was impossible for
me to read the markings while everything was upside down like that. Maybe
this will get better with time, but I don't see how. And now the spot where
I injected is starting to hurt really badly. :(
Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 4:39:55 PM4/16/13
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this day won't go well. I awoke with an overly high BG even for me. 353!
I doubt that would be enough insulin to correct it. I was ill last night.
Bad stomach pains.
Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 4:43:15 PM4/16/13
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"Charly Coughran" <ccou...@DELETE-TO-RESPOND-UCSD.EDU> wrote in message
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for sure that I got the right syringes. Because initially they said that
they were not.
>
> If you push the plunger down as far as it goes, the end of the
> black plunger should line up with a line, which is often darker
> than the major lines. This is 0. (Well it is close to zero,
> but offset a little to take care of the insulin that resides in
> the needle.) On the other end of the syringe there should be
> an identification of the full capacity of the syringe. It will
> be close to the last measurement number. Similar information
> should be on the packaging. There also should be a unit
> identifier there too, to let you know what the dosage marks
> mean.
Yes. I could see that after I took one out of the package.
> If you push the plunger down as far as it goes, the end of the
> black plunger should line up with a line, which is often darker
> than the major lines. This is 0. (Well it is close to zero,
> but offset a little to take care of the insulin that resides in
> the needle.) On the other end of the syringe there should be
> an identification of the full capacity of the syringe. It will
> be close to the last measurement number. Similar information
> should be on the packaging. There also should be a unit
> identifier there too, to let you know what the dosage marks
> mean.
> One problem is that insulin is measured in arbitrary units
> cleverly called "units". This is a vestigial remainder from
> the history of the discovery of insulin and often causes
> confusion. Other possible units are cc or ml or fractions
> thereof. If you have an actual insulin syringe, it will state
> that it is only for use with U-100 or only with U-500 (if they
> still make U-500 syringes) and the units will be "units". If
> your syringe says "use only with U-500", then you are in fat
> city.
>
> If it is a generic syringe usable for U-500 it will be in
> fractions of cc or ml. Note that 1cc and 1ml are exactly the
> same volume. So 1 cc or 1 ml of U-500 by definition = 500
> units of insulin. Therefore, 0.1 ml or cc = 50 units. 0.03 ml
> or cc = 15 units. So if, for example, the syringe has a
> maximum volume of 0.1 ml, 15 units will fill a little less than
> a third of the syringe at which point there should be a 0.03 ml
> marker line.
Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 4:46:46 PM4/16/13
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me that they can be reached, in fact they can not. If I call, I only get
the answering service. I can physically go in there if I just want a sample
of something or to pick up some paperwork, and once I did get to speak to
his assistant. But it is late enough in the day that I can't even do that.
I have to take Angela to dance soon. I think I might call the pharmacist.
>
> I agree with charlie tht you have to be very certain you understand
> everything when
> you are getting instructions form your medical people. Take nots AND ask
> them to
> write the instructions down or tell you where to get written instructions,
> preferably, step by step.
>
> I hope you get this straightened out very quickly.
Thanks! I have a feeling that if anything it is not nearly enough insulin.
> I agree with charlie tht you have to be very certain you understand
> everything when
> you are getting instructions form your medical people. Take nots AND ask
> them to
> write the instructions down or tell you where to get written instructions,
> preferably, step by step.
>
> I hope you get this straightened out very quickly.
My brother said he uses 80 units of this per day and my BG was usually
running a lot higher than his and I was using a *lot* more of the other
insulins than him.
Charly Coughran
Apr 16, 2013, 5:47:35 PM4/16/13
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insulin at a 15 unit dose. I have some 1/4cc U-100 syringes
which is about as small a U-100 syringe you can get. It has
marks down to 0.5 units when using U-100. This means 2.5 units
of insulin for the smallest marks if you are using U-500 and
those marks are very small and hard to read near the needle end
of the syringe.
Take both your inslin and the syringes back to the pharmacy and
insist on talking to the head pharmacist. They should never
have allowed a patient to walk out with that mixture of
products. If you had drawn out insulin to the 15 unit mark on
the syringe you would have taken 75 units and would likely had
a severe bout of hypoglycemia with possibly dire consequences.
I don't understand why they gave you U-500 when they were
starting you with a 15 unit dose. 1 year of 15 units/day means
a vial of U-500 will last for 667 days. They must believe that
you are going to need a much larger dose and want to gently
work up to it.
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Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 6:05:56 PM4/16/13
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The pharmacy said this is correct. I didn't do the math but it says on the
prescription label that it is for 20 days. Even though I am not good at
math, I can tell in my mind that 15 units, twice a day is 30 units per day.
And the bottle contains 500 units. So that's not going to last 30 days. 30
units in 10 days would be 300 units. So it wouldn't actually last 20 days
either! I will have to speak to the CDE about this. The pharmacist said
that my shooting it like this is equal to 75 units per day. Whatever that
means. I can not do math like that and I didn't quite understand what she
meant but I'm pretty sure that you do.
prescription label that it is for 20 days. Even though I am not good at
math, I can tell in my mind that 15 units, twice a day is 30 units per day.
And the bottle contains 500 units. So that's not going to last 30 days. 30
units in 10 days would be 300 units. So it wouldn't actually last 20 days
either! I will have to speak to the CDE about this. The pharmacist said
that my shooting it like this is equal to 75 units per day. Whatever that
means. I can not do math like that and I didn't quite understand what she
meant but I'm pretty sure that you do.
BessieBee
Apr 16, 2013, 10:06:51 PM4/16/13
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On 4/16/2013 3:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I had to started over.
Are you drawing then injecting a comparable amount of air into your vial
> I had to started over.
and then drawing the insulin? Injecting air into the vial makes drawing
the insulin easier.
--
BessieBee
"You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going,
because you might not get there." Peter �Yogi� Berra
Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 10:44:02 PM4/16/13
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> On 4/16/2013 3:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I had to started over.
>
> Are you drawing then injecting a comparable amount of air into your vial
> and then drawing the insulin? Injecting air into the vial makes drawing
> the insulin easier.
Yes. The problem is not getting the insulin into the syringe. The problem
>
>> I had to started over.
>
> Are you drawing then injecting a comparable amount of air into your vial
> and then drawing the insulin? Injecting air into the vial makes drawing
> the insulin easier.
is getting the correct amount. Because I can not see where the 15 unit mark
is, especially when the syringe is in the upside down bottle and I am trying
to hold both together. I then have to look at the syringe upside down.
There is no marking for 15 units. The numbers are only on the 10's and in
between they are only marked for every two units. The marks are sooo close
together that it is impossible for me not only to see where the 15 units
would be but to get the syringe plunger to go there. Took me three attempts
and I finally just gave up and took 14 units.
BessieBee
Apr 16, 2013, 11:21:19 PM4/16/13
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On 4/16/2013 9:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
> news:kkkvup$aeu$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/16/2013 3:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I had to started over.
>>
>> Are you drawing then injecting a comparable amount of air into your vial
>> and then drawing the insulin? Injecting air into the vial makes drawing
>> the insulin easier.
>
> Yes. The problem is not getting the insulin into the syringe. The problem
> is getting the correct amount.
Yes, I'm aware that dosing is a problem for you right now. I was just
> "BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
> news:kkkvup$aeu$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/16/2013 3:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I had to started over.
>>
>> Are you drawing then injecting a comparable amount of air into your vial
>> and then drawing the insulin? Injecting air into the vial makes drawing
>> the insulin easier.
>
> Yes. The problem is not getting the insulin into the syringe. The problem
> is getting the correct amount.
trying to make things a tad easier if you didn't know about injecting
air into the vial.
I used a vial & syringe for a few months. It was kind of clumsy at
first, but with time and experience it gets easier - including getting
the appropriate dose.
Julie Bove
Apr 16, 2013, 11:43:55 PM4/16/13
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"BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
> On 4/16/2013 9:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
>> news:kkkvup$aeu$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 4/16/2013 3:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had to started over.
>>>
>>> Are you drawing then injecting a comparable amount of air into your vial
>>> and then drawing the insulin? Injecting air into the vial makes drawing
>>> the insulin easier.
>>
>> Yes. The problem is not getting the insulin into the syringe. The
>> problem
>> is getting the correct amount.
>
> Yes, I'm aware that dosing is a problem for you right now. I was just
> trying to make things a tad easier if you didn't know about injecting air
> into the vial.
>
> I used a vial & syringe for a few months. It was kind of clumsy at first,
> but with time and experience it gets easier - including getting the
> appropriate dose.
It seems very clumsy for me. The vial is huge and the needle is very long.
>> "BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
>> news:kkkvup$aeu$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 4/16/2013 3:38 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had to started over.
>>>
>>> Are you drawing then injecting a comparable amount of air into your vial
>>> and then drawing the insulin? Injecting air into the vial makes drawing
>>> the insulin easier.
>>
>> Yes. The problem is not getting the insulin into the syringe. The
>> problem
>> is getting the correct amount.
>
> Yes, I'm aware that dosing is a problem for you right now. I was just
> trying to make things a tad easier if you didn't know about injecting air
> into the vial.
>
> I used a vial & syringe for a few months. It was kind of clumsy at first,
> but with time and experience it gets easier - including getting the
> appropriate dose.
There are all sorts of cautions about not bending the needle an all it does
when I try to hold the two together is seems to twist and turn.
BessieBee
Apr 17, 2013, 12:01:56 AM4/17/13
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pharmacist if you can get syringes with shorter needles. If they don't
have them, and they're made, they can order them for you.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 12:36:56 AM4/17/13
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with the concentrated stuff. BG was down to 163 before dinner. I only ate
White Castles. The frozen ones. Still having stomach pains and don't dare
try to eat anything more. Have a headache now too.
Trawley Trash
Apr 16, 2013, 12:24:55 PM4/16/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:54:05 -0700
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> I can't see up close with my
> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
> help. They only made things big and blurry.
Have you tried reading glasses on top of your prescription? I
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> I can't see up close with my
> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
> help. They only made things big and blurry.
sometimes use two pairs of reading glasses on on top of the other
when I need to do something close up.
Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
stand.
Freckles
Apr 17, 2013, 11:19:29 AM4/17/13
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These glasses are found on Amazon.com. They might be of help to you. They
cost less than $10.00
Watch Repair Magnifier Loupe 20X Glasses With LED Light
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 11:33:43 AM4/17/13
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"Trawley Trash" <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:54:05 -0700
> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't see up close with my
>> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
>> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
>> help. They only made things big and blurry.
>
> Have you tried reading glasses on top of your prescription? I
> sometimes use two pairs of reading glasses on on top of the other
> when I need to do something close up.
No. I can't possibly see how that would help because the glasses are for
> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't see up close with my
>> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
>> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
>> help. They only made things big and blurry.
>
> Have you tried reading glasses on top of your prescription? I
> sometimes use two pairs of reading glasses on on top of the other
> when I need to do something close up.
distance.
>
> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
> stand.
That just makes things big and blurry. Doesn't help me.
> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
> stand.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 11:34:18 AM4/17/13
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Nope. Can't see a thing at all with those things. They just make things
big and blurry.
big and blurry.
Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 17, 2013, 12:07:21 PM4/17/13
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Het is zò dat Julie Bove formuleerde :
It sounds good though. Your normal glasses (with the astigmatism
correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
M.
correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
M.
Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 17, 2013, 12:25:25 PM4/17/13
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Na rijp beraad schreef Julie Bove :
Even if you keep wearing your (for astigmatism corrective) normal
glasses?
M.
glasses?
M.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 12:36:45 PM4/17/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
up is blurry. I have to remove them to see anything close up.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 12:37:29 PM4/17/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
> Het is z� dat Julie Bove formuleerde :
close. I have to take them off to see anything up close.
Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 17, 2013, 12:54:20 PM4/17/13
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Julie Bove beweerde :
M.
> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
> message news:cM2dnb_OQMUhVfPM...@giganews.com...
>> Het is zò dat Julie Bove formuleerde :
> message news:cM2dnb_OQMUhVfPM...@giganews.com...
>>> "Trawley Trash" <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:nja04a-...@jammer.gnet...
>>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:54:05 -0700
>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't see up close with my
>>>>> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
>>>>> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
>>>>> help. They only made things big and blurry.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried reading glasses on top of your prescription? I
>>>> sometimes use two pairs of reading glasses on on top of the other
>>>> when I need to do something close up.
>>>
>>> No. I can't possibly see how that would help because the glasses are for
>>> distance.
>>>>
>>>> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
>>>> stand.
>>>
>>> That just makes things big and blurry. Doesn't help me.
>>
>> It sounds good though. Your normal glasses (with the astigmatism
>> correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
>> So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
>> M.
>
> That wouldn't work at all! My normal glasses make everything blurry up
> close. I have to take them off to see anything up close.
So: you _can_ see up close.
>>> news:nja04a-...@jammer.gnet...
>>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:54:05 -0700
>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't see up close with my
>>>>> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
>>>>> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
>>>>> help. They only made things big and blurry.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried reading glasses on top of your prescription? I
>>>> sometimes use two pairs of reading glasses on on top of the other
>>>> when I need to do something close up.
>>>
>>> No. I can't possibly see how that would help because the glasses are for
>>> distance.
>>>>
>>>> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
>>>> stand.
>>>
>>> That just makes things big and blurry. Doesn't help me.
>>
>> It sounds good though. Your normal glasses (with the astigmatism
>> correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
>> So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
>> M.
>
> That wouldn't work at all! My normal glasses make everything blurry up
> close. I have to take them off to see anything up close.
M.
Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 17, 2013, 12:59:14 PM4/17/13
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Julie Bove drukte met precisie uit :
Yes, I have that too. I read with my glasses (also astigmatism and for
distance) off. A magnifying glass works fine. Beware: there are
different types of magnifying glasses. My husband has the same thing,
bought one with a handle at a bookshop to look at maps (in a vast
atlas)
M.
distance) off. A magnifying glass works fine. Beware: there are
different types of magnifying glasses. My husband has the same thing,
bought one with a handle at a bookshop to look at maps (in a vast
atlas)
M.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 1:01:41 PM4/17/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 1:06:14 PM4/17/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
> Julie Bove beweerde :
>> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote
>> in message news:cM2dnb_OQMUhVfPM...@giganews.com...
>>> Het is z� dat Julie Bove formuleerde :
>> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote
>> in message news:cM2dnb_OQMUhVfPM...@giganews.com...
>>>> "Trawley Trash" <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:nja04a-...@jammer.gnet...
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:54:05 -0700
>>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't see up close with my
>>>>>> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
>>>>>> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
>>>>>> help. They only made things big and blurry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried reading glasses on top of your prescription? I
>>>>> sometimes use two pairs of reading glasses on on top of the other
>>>>> when I need to do something close up.
>>>>
>>>> No. I can't possibly see how that would help because the glasses are
>>>> for distance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
>>>>> stand.
>>>>
>>>> That just makes things big and blurry. Doesn't help me.
>>>
>>> It sounds good though. Your normal glasses (with the astigmatism
>>> correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
>>> So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
>>> M.
>>
>> That wouldn't work at all! My normal glasses make everything blurry up
>> close. I have to take them off to see anything up close.
>
> So: you _can_ see up close.
> M.
Without the glasses on, yes. But the astigmatism can make it difficult.
>>>> news:nja04a-...@jammer.gnet...
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:54:05 -0700
>>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't see up close with my
>>>>>> glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see
>>>>>> well up close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not
>>>>>> help. They only made things big and blurry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried reading glasses on top of your prescription? I
>>>>> sometimes use two pairs of reading glasses on on top of the other
>>>>> when I need to do something close up.
>>>>
>>>> No. I can't possibly see how that would help because the glasses are
>>>> for distance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
>>>>> stand.
>>>>
>>>> That just makes things big and blurry. Doesn't help me.
>>>
>>> It sounds good though. Your normal glasses (with the astigmatism
>>> correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
>>> So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
>>> M.
>>
>> That wouldn't work at all! My normal glasses make everything blurry up
>> close. I have to take them off to see anything up close.
>
> So: you _can_ see up close.
> M.
Right now I have a problem with reading. I can't tell the difference
between the words "cat" and "car" They both look the same to me. So when I
see the word, I have to stop and figure out how it is used in a sentence.
Part of my problem with reading is that I was forced to learn speed reading
when I was in high school. We were made to be able to read a page of text
in a second. I never quite achieved this but I did read quickly to start
with and they forced me to read even more quickly! So now I have a super
hard time slowing myself down. Sometimes in order to do it, I have to read
the words aloud. Sometimes I do this in sort of a whisper and that annoys
Angela.
Reading on the computer is different. I can usually see the words there
fine unless perhaps it is a very fine print such as on a PDF file. Then I
have to make it larger. But sometimes it is just larger and blurry. But
for newsgroups and e-mails and such, I have no problems reading with or
without my glasses. I guess the computer is just at the right distance.
Charly Coughran
Apr 17, 2013, 1:06:35 PM4/17/13
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in
news:kkkhrb$peb$1...@dont-email.me:
U-500 insulin has 500 units of insulin/ml not 500 units/vial; U-
500 is the name of the concentration of the insulin in the vial.
I believe that U-500 comes in 20ml vials rather than the 10ml
vial used for U-100 but I might be wrong. If I am correct you
have 500 units/ml times 20ml which equals 10,000 units. The
only way you could have 500 units in the bottle would be a vial
that only contains 1ml. 10,000 units at 30 units/day is a 333
day supply. In my previous calculation I assumed 15 units/day
and was, therefore, a factor of 2 high.
U-100 is a concentration of 100 units of insulin/ml and,
therefore, 1/5 as concentrated as U-500. A U-100 syringe is
calibrated in units for dosing U-100 insulin. If you fill a U-
100 syringe to the 15 unit mark with U-500 insulin, you will
actually be taking 75 units of insulin rather than 15 units of
insulin per shot, 5 times 15. You need to fully and clearly
understand the relationship between the numbers on the syringe
and the number of units you are injecting. This confusion is
the reason that U-100 insulin syringes, at least all that I have
seen, state both on the packaging and on the syringe, "Use only
with U-100 insulin." You do not want to be taking 75 units when
you think you are taking 15 or 15 units when you think you are
taking 75.
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Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 17, 2013, 1:11:20 PM4/17/13
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of these work :-)
I dont use such a glass for reading. I take my glasses off. After a
while you'll get used to work with a vial and syringes. It took me a
while as well. A week, if memory serves me well.
Ofcourse, later I liked the pen much better, but sometimes one just has
to make do..
M.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 1:22:47 PM4/17/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
much smaller dose of the concentrated kind. The CDE claims that the smaller
the dose, the better it works. That remains to be seen.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 1:25:16 PM4/17/13
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news:XnsA1A566CA73B9A...@169.228.66.3...
It is 20ml and it says 500 units.
> U-100 is a concentration of 100 units of insulin/ml and,
> therefore, 1/5 as concentrated as U-500. A U-100 syringe is
> calibrated in units for dosing U-100 insulin. If you fill a U-
> 100 syringe to the 15 unit mark with U-500 insulin, you will
> actually be taking 75 units of insulin rather than 15 units of
> insulin per shot, 5 times 15. You need to fully and clearly
> understand the relationship between the numbers on the syringe
> and the number of units you are injecting. This confusion is
> the reason that U-100 insulin syringes, at least all that I have
> seen, state both on the packaging and on the syringe, "Use only
> with U-100 insulin." You do not want to be taking 75 units when
> you think you are taking 15 or 15 units when you think you are
> taking 75.
Oh! So I am now taking the equivalent of 75 units twice daily! That makes
more sense then.
> U-100 is a concentration of 100 units of insulin/ml and,
> therefore, 1/5 as concentrated as U-500. A U-100 syringe is
> calibrated in units for dosing U-100 insulin. If you fill a U-
> 100 syringe to the 15 unit mark with U-500 insulin, you will
> actually be taking 75 units of insulin rather than 15 units of
> insulin per shot, 5 times 15. You need to fully and clearly
> understand the relationship between the numbers on the syringe
> and the number of units you are injecting. This confusion is
> the reason that U-100 insulin syringes, at least all that I have
> seen, state both on the packaging and on the syringe, "Use only
> with U-100 insulin." You do not want to be taking 75 units when
> you think you are taking 15 or 15 units when you think you are
> taking 75.
more sense then.
W. Baker
Apr 17, 2013, 4:01:53 PM4/17/13
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
: >>> when I need to do something close up.
magnifying reading glasses from teh drug store, you can try them with some readign
material and you will find the one that works best for you. I have astigmatism,
Wet amcular degeneraion , eand myopia. I use a 2x pair of drugsstor glasses over
my bare eyes for reading. take somethingwith small print to the drugstore with you
adn try the different strengths of reading glasses. they are not wildly expensive,
say $10-$20 for a pair. You might be surprised how mech esier it will make reading
that scale on the syringe.
Wendy
: >>> when I need to do something close up.
: >>
: >> No. I can't possibly see how that would help because the glasses are for
: >> distance.
: >>>
: >>> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
: >>> stand.
: >>
: >> That just makes things big and blurry. Doesn't help me.
: >
: > It sounds good though. Your normal glasses (with the astigmatism
: > correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
: > So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
: > M.
: That wouldn't work at all! My normal glasses make everything blurry up
: close. I have to take them off to see anything up close.
sTake it from me I know lots about glasses, which to use when etc. If you get a
: >> No. I can't possibly see how that would help because the glasses are for
: >> distance.
: >>>
: >>> Also there are magnifying glasses. You could find one with a
: >>> stand.
: >>
: >> That just makes things big and blurry. Doesn't help me.
: >
: > It sounds good though. Your normal glasses (with the astigmatism
: > correction) and over these reading glasses (or a magnifying glass).
: > So: keep your "normal" glasses on!
: > M.
: That wouldn't work at all! My normal glasses make everything blurry up
: close. I have to take them off to see anything up close.
magnifying reading glasses from teh drug store, you can try them with some readign
material and you will find the one that works best for you. I have astigmatism,
Wet amcular degeneraion , eand myopia. I use a 2x pair of drugsstor glasses over
my bare eyes for reading. take somethingwith small print to the drugstore with you
adn try the different strengths of reading glasses. they are not wildly expensive,
say $10-$20 for a pair. You might be surprised how mech esier it will make reading
that scale on the syringe.
Wendy
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 4:55:29 PM4/17/13
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"W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote in message
news:kkmv3h$n4p$1...@reader1.panix.com...
not read with them. Just makes everything blurry.
W. Baker
Apr 17, 2013, 7:41:42 PM4/17/13
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
: "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote in message
The your vision is too good so you don'tneed reading glasses and should be lable,
without your glasses, to read the markings.
Wendy
: "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote in message
without your glasses, to read the markings.
Wendy
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 7:45:33 PM4/17/13
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news:kknbvm$3ng$2...@reader1.panix.com...
I don't know about that. From what I read on the Internet, it is very
difficult to set this syringe to odd amounts.
difficult to set this syringe to odd amounts.
Opple0pad
Apr 17, 2013, 9:56:07 PM4/17/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:09:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>I just want to cry! I looked at the little syringe and I haven't a clue how
>to get it to 15 units. It is only marked off in units of 10 and there are
>very tiny black lines between there, indicating 2 units. Can I set it
>between the two lines?
Yes, you can set it between the lines. However, you can save yourself
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>I just want to cry! I looked at the little syringe and I haven't a clue how
>to get it to 15 units. It is only marked off in units of 10 and there are
>very tiny black lines between there, indicating 2 units. Can I set it
>between the two lines?
the aggravation and just get the correct syringe. Either of the two
syringes in the middle will work for your dose as they both have 15
unit marks.
http://www.bd.com/us/diabetes/page.aspx?cat=7001&id=7252
> But even if I could... I don't think there's anyway
>that I feasibly can! The lines are so tiny and so close together that it
>makes my eyes blur to try to see where I need it to be.
syringe magnifier.
http://www.bd.com/us/diabetes/page.aspx?cat=7002&id=7420
And then there's
>that black portion that appears to move up and down. Won't that impede me
>even further from being able to see where to put it? I can easily see where
>to put it for 10 units or 20 but not 15. Help!
on the syringe.
>
>Of course tomorrow is the day that they are not in the Drs. office. So...
>*sigh* I wanted to start on this insulin tomorrow but am frightened to try
>it now because I'll likely dial up the wrong dose. I am looking at it again
>and it looks like the best I could do is to guess at where the black thing
>should be. And even at that... The black thing is pretty thick! I don't
>even know which side of it to use to get the dose.
>
top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
Opple0pad
Apr 17, 2013, 9:58:03 PM4/17/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:34:57 -0500, "Freckles" <donbl...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>
>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:kkje00$bai$1...@dont-email.me...
>news:s5idnVmfrsUNqPDM...@giganews.com...
>> If you know the name of the device, go to Google on your computer and type
>> that name.
>> It's highly possible you will find the answer to your questions somewhere
>> in the responses that you will find there.
>
>Of course I know the name of the device! It's an insulin syringe! I did
>find an answer but it's not a good one. It is possible to set it to an odd
>amount but very difficult to do. I did just try this out on the syringe. I
>can do it but it takes me a very long time. I can't see up close with my
>would have been easy. Easier still if it had been 10 or 20 units. But she
>did not. :(
>----------------------------------------------
>
>My mistake, I thought you had an insulin pump.
>
>I have not used insulin in a long time, but I have some syringes left. They
>are BD brand and have a capacity of 0 to 30 units. Each syringe is marked
>off in 5 units with marks of 1 units in between the 5 unit marks.
>
>Maybe you need to look into getting this brand of syringe instead of the one
>you have.
>
>Freckles
>
>
Bingo! Correct answer!
wrote:
>
>
>"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:kkje00$bai$1...@dont-email.me...
>news:s5idnVmfrsUNqPDM...@giganews.com...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news:kkjbc1$qe0$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news:kkjbc1$qe0$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> I just want to cry! I looked at the little syringe and I haven't a clue
>> how
>> to get it to 15 units. It is only marked off in units of 10 and there are
>> very tiny black lines between there, indicating 2 units. Can I set it
>> between the two lines? But even if I could... I don't think there's
>> how
>> to get it to 15 units. It is only marked off in units of 10 and there are
>> very tiny black lines between there, indicating 2 units. Can I set it
>> anyway
>> that I feasibly can! The lines are so tiny and so close together that it
>> makes my eyes blur to try to see where I need it to be. And then there's
>> that I feasibly can! The lines are so tiny and so close together that it
>> that black portion that appears to move up and down. Won't that impede me
>> even further from being able to see where to put it? I can easily see
>> where
>> to put it for 10 units or 20 but not 15. Help!
>>
>> even further from being able to see where to put it? I can easily see
>> where
>> to put it for 10 units or 20 but not 15. Help!
>>
>> Of course tomorrow is the day that they are not in the Drs. office. So...
>> *sigh* I wanted to start on this insulin tomorrow but am frightened to
>> try
>> it now because I'll likely dial up the wrong dose. I am looking at it
>> again
>> and it looks like the best I could do is to guess at where the black thing
>> should be. And even at that... The black thing is pretty thick! I don't
>> even know which side of it to use to get the dose.
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> *sigh* I wanted to start on this insulin tomorrow but am frightened to
>> try
>> it now because I'll likely dial up the wrong dose. I am looking at it
>> again
>> and it looks like the best I could do is to guess at where the black thing
>> should be. And even at that... The black thing is pretty thick! I don't
>> even know which side of it to use to get the dose.
>> If you know the name of the device, go to Google on your computer and type
>> that name.
>> It's highly possible you will find the answer to your questions somewhere
>> in the responses that you will find there.
>
>Of course I know the name of the device! It's an insulin syringe! I did
>find an answer but it's not a good one. It is possible to set it to an odd
>amount but very difficult to do. I did just try this out on the syringe. I
>can do it but it takes me a very long time. I can't see up close with my
>glasses on. And I have astigmatism so without them on, I don't see well up
>close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not help. They
>only made things big and blurry. If she had dosed me at 14 or 16 units it
>close either. Not for tiny things. Reading glasses did not help. They
>would have been easy. Easier still if it had been 10 or 20 units. But she
>did not. :(
>----------------------------------------------
>
>My mistake, I thought you had an insulin pump.
>
>I have not used insulin in a long time, but I have some syringes left. They
>are BD brand and have a capacity of 0 to 30 units. Each syringe is marked
>off in 5 units with marks of 1 units in between the 5 unit marks.
>
>Maybe you need to look into getting this brand of syringe instead of the one
>you have.
>
>Freckles
>
>
Bingo! Correct answer!
Opple0pad
Apr 17, 2013, 9:59:27 PM4/17/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:01:10 +0200, Maya Zuiderweg
<$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote:
>Julie Bove stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
>I am a bit of a guesser, I would try 14 units. That one unit won't
>differ very much with the 15 prescribed units. OTOH 16 units would be
>one more than prescribed, I would not gamble on that ;-)
>M.
>
1 unit on a u-100 insulin syringe is 5 units of insulin when using
U500 insulin.
<$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote:
>Julie Bove stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
>differ very much with the 15 prescribed units. OTOH 16 units would be
>one more than prescribed, I would not gamble on that ;-)
>M.
>
1 unit on a u-100 insulin syringe is 5 units of insulin when using
U500 insulin.
Opple0pad
Apr 17, 2013, 10:17:37 PM4/17/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:38:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>Maybe. But only certain ones can be used with this insulin. I am holding
>it in my hand now. The needle is sooo long! I don't want to shoot it. :(
U500 is not to be injected into muscle or veins ONLY subQ. You may
need to inject at angle not straight in. A 1/2 syringe should be
okay, but if your doctor approves after checking your injection sites
you may be able to a 1/3 inch syringe (shorter needle).
>
>Well, I did it but I feel like I am going to pass out. The needle didn't
>actually hurt but the thought of it going into me made me sick. And I don't
>think I took the right dose. I managed to pull it back to the right amount
>but from there, everything got clumsy. Once I turned the bottle upside down
>and tried to draw the syringe back, everything got all clumsy. It was next
>to impossible to hold both things at once.
The correct procedure is to draw air into the syringe first to the
same amount or just over the amount of your dosage.
You then inject that air into the insulin vial. Increasing the
internal pressure of the vial making it far easier to draw the insulin
back out of the vial into the syringe.
Draw slightly more insulin into the syringe than you need. And extra
five units is usually more than enough. With the syringe either still
in the vial or taking it out, tap the syringe to force any small air
bubbles up to the needle then pressure the plunger slowly injecting
the air and the excess insulin back into the vial or out into the open
until you reach your correct dose.
Then inject into yourself.
Then I pulled back the syringe
>too far and a drop of insulin plopped out.
>
Happens all the time, ignore it.
>I had to started over. Took me three attempts and I still don't think I got
>the dose right. I think I took one unit too little. It was impossible for
>me to read the markings while everything was upside down like that. Maybe
>this will get better with time, but I don't see how. And now the spot where
>I injected is starting to hurt really badly. :(
>
Tell your doctor to give you a bottle of sterile saline so you can
practice drawing up your doses and injecting them into an orange. This
is the tried and true training method for children as young as 5 and
it works great for getting the dose correct and developing the
coordination/dexterity required to use a syringe correctly.
Saline vials come in the same sizes as insulin vials.
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>Maybe. But only certain ones can be used with this insulin. I am holding
>it in my hand now. The needle is sooo long! I don't want to shoot it. :(
U500 is not to be injected into muscle or veins ONLY subQ. You may
need to inject at angle not straight in. A 1/2 syringe should be
okay, but if your doctor approves after checking your injection sites
you may be able to a 1/3 inch syringe (shorter needle).
>
>Well, I did it but I feel like I am going to pass out. The needle didn't
>actually hurt but the thought of it going into me made me sick. And I don't
>think I took the right dose. I managed to pull it back to the right amount
>but from there, everything got clumsy. Once I turned the bottle upside down
>and tried to draw the syringe back, everything got all clumsy. It was next
>to impossible to hold both things at once.
The correct procedure is to draw air into the syringe first to the
same amount or just over the amount of your dosage.
You then inject that air into the insulin vial. Increasing the
internal pressure of the vial making it far easier to draw the insulin
back out of the vial into the syringe.
Draw slightly more insulin into the syringe than you need. And extra
five units is usually more than enough. With the syringe either still
in the vial or taking it out, tap the syringe to force any small air
bubbles up to the needle then pressure the plunger slowly injecting
the air and the excess insulin back into the vial or out into the open
until you reach your correct dose.
Then inject into yourself.
Then I pulled back the syringe
>too far and a drop of insulin plopped out.
>
Happens all the time, ignore it.
>I had to started over. Took me three attempts and I still don't think I got
>the dose right. I think I took one unit too little. It was impossible for
>me to read the markings while everything was upside down like that. Maybe
>this will get better with time, but I don't see how. And now the spot where
>I injected is starting to hurt really badly. :(
>
Tell your doctor to give you a bottle of sterile saline so you can
practice drawing up your doses and injecting them into an orange. This
is the tried and true training method for children as young as 5 and
it works great for getting the dose correct and developing the
coordination/dexterity required to use a syringe correctly.
Saline vials come in the same sizes as insulin vials.
Opple0pad
Apr 17, 2013, 10:21:43 PM4/17/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:46:46 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks! I have a feeling that if anything it is not nearly enough insulin.
>My brother said he uses 80 units of this per day and my BG was usually
>running a lot higher than his and I was using a *lot* more of the other
>insulins than him.
>
80 units of what?
If he is using U500 insulin and measuring 80 units via a u100 syringe
he is taking 400 actual units of insulin per day.
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks! I have a feeling that if anything it is not nearly enough insulin.
>My brother said he uses 80 units of this per day and my BG was usually
>running a lot higher than his and I was using a *lot* more of the other
>insulins than him.
>
80 units of what?
If he is using U500 insulin and measuring 80 units via a u100 syringe
he is taking 400 actual units of insulin per day.
Opple0pad
Apr 17, 2013, 10:24:56 PM4/17/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:47:35 +0000 (UTC), Charly Coughran
<ccou...@DELETE-TO-RESPOND-UCSD.EDU> wrote:
>You absolutely do not want to use a U-100 syringe for U-500
>insulin at a 15 unit dose.
You are dead wrong on all counts. The whole point of using U500 is
<ccou...@DELETE-TO-RESPOND-UCSD.EDU> wrote:
>You absolutely do not want to use a U-100 syringe for U-500
>insulin at a 15 unit dose.
because the higher doses of insulin are needed. U500 syringes are not
in production.
http://www.bd.com/us/diabetes/page.aspx?cat=7002&id=7420
clearly marked for what she needs.
Everything about U500
http://www.humulinu500.com/
Opple0pad
Apr 17, 2013, 10:35:13 PM4/17/13
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On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:05:56 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>The pharmacy said this is correct.
If the syringe does not have a 15 unit marking, the pharmacy is
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>The pharmacy said this is correct.
partially wrong.
> I didn't do the math but it says on the
>prescription label that it is for 20 days. Even though I am not good at
>math, I can tell in my mind that 15 units, twice a day is 30 units per day.
>And the bottle contains 500 units.
The bottle contains 20 CCs of U500 strength insulin.
1 CC is equal 100 units on a U100 syringe
A 20 CC bottle has 20000 units
you are going to be using 30 units per day.
That's more than enough.
So that's not going to last 30 days. 30
>units in 10 days would be 300 units. So it wouldn't actually last 20 days
>either! I will have to speak to the CDE about this. The pharmacist said
>that my shooting it like this is equal to 75 units per day. Whatever that
>means. I can not do math like that and I didn't quite understand what she
>meant but I'm pretty sure that you do.
>
READ:
http://www.humulinu500.com/
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 11:37:14 PM4/17/13
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at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 11:37:51 PM4/17/13
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Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 11:43:05 PM4/17/13
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"Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:38:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>Maybe. But only certain ones can be used with this insulin. I am holding
>>it in my hand now. The needle is sooo long! I don't want to shoot it.
>>:(
>
> U500 is not to be injected into muscle or veins ONLY subQ. You may
> need to inject at angle not straight in. A 1/2 syringe should be
> okay, but if your doctor approves after checking your injection sites
> you may be able to a 1/3 inch syringe (shorter needle).
The CDE said that I *had* to use the long one and it had to be straight in.
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>Maybe. But only certain ones can be used with this insulin. I am holding
>>it in my hand now. The needle is sooo long! I don't want to shoot it.
>>:(
>
> U500 is not to be injected into muscle or veins ONLY subQ. You may
> need to inject at angle not straight in. A 1/2 syringe should be
> okay, but if your doctor approves after checking your injection sites
> you may be able to a 1/3 inch syringe (shorter needle).
>
>>
>>Well, I did it but I feel like I am going to pass out. The needle didn't
>>actually hurt but the thought of it going into me made me sick. And I
>>don't
>>think I took the right dose. I managed to pull it back to the right
>>amount
>>but from there, everything got clumsy. Once I turned the bottle upside
>>down
>>and tried to draw the syringe back, everything got all clumsy. It was
>>next
>>to impossible to hold both things at once.
>
> The correct procedure is to draw air into the syringe first to the
> same amount or just over the amount of your dosage.
I know. That part isn't the problem. It's getting the insulin into the
>>
>>Well, I did it but I feel like I am going to pass out. The needle didn't
>>actually hurt but the thought of it going into me made me sick. And I
>>don't
>>think I took the right dose. I managed to pull it back to the right
>>amount
>>but from there, everything got clumsy. Once I turned the bottle upside
>>down
>>and tried to draw the syringe back, everything got all clumsy. It was
>>next
>>to impossible to hold both things at once.
>
> The correct procedure is to draw air into the syringe first to the
> same amount or just over the amount of your dosage.
needle. Very hard to see the markings while trying to hold the bottle
upside down and the syringe into it.
>
> You then inject that air into the insulin vial. Increasing the
> internal pressure of the vial making it far easier to draw the insulin
> back out of the vial into the syringe.
I know.
> You then inject that air into the insulin vial. Increasing the
> internal pressure of the vial making it far easier to draw the insulin
> back out of the vial into the syringe.
>
> Draw slightly more insulin into the syringe than you need. And extra
> five units is usually more than enough. With the syringe either still
> in the vial or taking it out, tap the syringe to force any small air
> bubbles up to the needle then pressure the plunger slowly injecting
> the air and the excess insulin back into the vial or out into the open
> until you reach your correct dose.
I sure couldn't shoot extra insulin into the air! My insurance company only
> Draw slightly more insulin into the syringe than you need. And extra
> five units is usually more than enough. With the syringe either still
> in the vial or taking it out, tap the syringe to force any small air
> bubbles up to the needle then pressure the plunger slowly injecting
> the air and the excess insulin back into the vial or out into the open
> until you reach your correct dose.
allows me the exact amount. And how would drawing any more into it make it
easier? It wouldn't.
>
> Then inject into yourself.
>
>
> Then I pulled back the syringe
>>too far and a drop of insulin plopped out.
>>
>
> Happens all the time, ignore it.
Oh. Well I learned that what I have to do is put the plunger against my
> Then inject into yourself.
>
>
> Then I pulled back the syringe
>>too far and a drop of insulin plopped out.
>>
>
> Happens all the time, ignore it.
computer desk. That stops me from pulling it out.
>
>>I had to started over. Took me three attempts and I still don't think I
>>got
>>the dose right. I think I took one unit too little. It was impossible
>>for
>>me to read the markings while everything was upside down like that. Maybe
>>this will get better with time, but I don't see how. And now the spot
>>where
>>I injected is starting to hurt really badly. :(
>>
>
>
> Tell your doctor to give you a bottle of sterile saline so you can
> practice drawing up your doses and injecting them into an orange. This
> is the tried and true training method for children as young as 5 and
> it works great for getting the dose correct and developing the
> coordination/dexterity required to use a syringe correctly.
My Dr. has nothing to do with insulin or its injection. Plus I can't get
>>I had to started over. Took me three attempts and I still don't think I
>>got
>>the dose right. I think I took one unit too little. It was impossible
>>for
>>me to read the markings while everything was upside down like that. Maybe
>>this will get better with time, but I don't see how. And now the spot
>>where
>>I injected is starting to hurt really badly. :(
>>
>
>
> Tell your doctor to give you a bottle of sterile saline so you can
> practice drawing up your doses and injecting them into an orange. This
> is the tried and true training method for children as young as 5 and
> it works great for getting the dose correct and developing the
> coordination/dexterity required to use a syringe correctly.
any extra syringes. And how in the world would injecting into an orange
help me to inject it into *me*? Can't pinch up the skin on an orange. Not
a fresh one anyway.
>
> Saline vials come in the same sizes as insulin vials.
No need for that.
> Saline vials come in the same sizes as insulin vials.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 11:44:58 PM4/17/13
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"Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
using that much. At one point I was taking over 300 units of Lantus plus
more units of Novolog. My prior insulin regimen had me using close to 300
units of various things.
Julie Bove
Apr 17, 2013, 11:46:21 PM4/17/13
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"Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:05:56 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>The pharmacy said this is correct.
>
> If the syringe does not have a 15 unit marking, the pharmacy is
> partially wrong.
>
Not from what I have read online. I don't think my dose is going to stay at
> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>>The pharmacy said this is correct.
>
> If the syringe does not have a 15 unit marking, the pharmacy is
> partially wrong.
>
this. She said it will likely be 20 units twice daily.
>> I didn't do the math but it says on the
>>prescription label that it is for 20 days. Even though I am not good at
>>math, I can tell in my mind that 15 units, twice a day is 30 units per
>>day.
>>And the bottle contains 500 units.
>
> ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
>
> The bottle contains 20 CCs of U500 strength insulin.
> 1 CC is equal 100 units on a U100 syringe
> A 20 CC bottle has 20000 units
>
> you are going to be using 30 units per day.
> That's more than enough.
>
>
>
> So that's not going to last 30 days. 30
>>units in 10 days would be 300 units. So it wouldn't actually last 20 days
>>either! I will have to speak to the CDE about this. The pharmacist said
>>that my shooting it like this is equal to 75 units per day. Whatever that
>>means. I can not do math like that and I didn't quite understand what she
>>meant but I'm pretty sure that you do.
>>
>
>
> No that would 75 units per dose or 150 units total per day.
>
> READ:
> http://www.humulinu500.com/
Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 18, 2013, 12:33:12 PM4/18/13
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Opple0pad heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
Maya Zuiderweg
Apr 18, 2013, 12:39:44 PM4/18/13
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Opple0pad stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
M.
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:47:35 +0000 (UTC), Charly Coughran
> <ccou...@DELETE-TO-RESPOND-UCSD.EDU> wrote:
>
>> You absolutely do not want to use a U-100 syringe for U-500
>> insulin at a 15 unit dose.
>
> You are dead wrong on all counts. The whole point of using U500 is
> because the higher doses of insulin are needed. U500 syringes are not
> in production.
>
> http://www.bd.com/us/diabetes/page.aspx?cat=7002&id=7420
> clearly marked for what she needs.
That's a very useful device!
> <ccou...@DELETE-TO-RESPOND-UCSD.EDU> wrote:
>
>> You absolutely do not want to use a U-100 syringe for U-500
>> insulin at a 15 unit dose.
>
> You are dead wrong on all counts. The whole point of using U500 is
> because the higher doses of insulin are needed. U500 syringes are not
> in production.
>
> http://www.bd.com/us/diabetes/page.aspx?cat=7002&id=7420
> clearly marked for what she needs.
M.
BessieBee
Apr 18, 2013, 8:59:44 PM4/18/13
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> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
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> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
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>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>
> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do it
> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>
I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>
> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do it
> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>
molehill.
My cousin's son was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 2. From the
age of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total
PITA, but can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
--
BessieBee
"You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going,
because you might not get there." Peter �Yogi� Berra
outsider
Apr 18, 2013, 9:12:22 PM4/18/13
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On 4/18/2013 7:59 PM, BessieBee wrote:
> On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>
>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>
>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to
>> do it
>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>
> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
> molehill.
>
> My cousin's son was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 2. From the
> age of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total
> PITA, but can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
You don't think she needs a keeper?
> On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>
>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>
>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to
>> do it
>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>
> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
> molehill.
>
> My cousin's son was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 2. From the
> age of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total
> PITA, but can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
Julie Bove
Apr 18, 2013, 10:31:08 PM4/18/13
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> On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>
>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>
>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do
>> it
>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>
> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
> molehill.
It's not a molehill to me. It's a big frustration. I bent two needles
>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>
>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>
>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do
>> it
>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>
> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
> molehill.
today and was forced to shoot with a bent one. I wasted one needle. And I
have none to waste. At some point I am going to have to reuse a needle.
And I'm not supposed to do that.
>
> My cousin's son was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 2. From the age
> of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total PITA, but
> can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
Kids learn quickly too. And I'd be willing to bet that not to many kids use
> My cousin's son was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 2. From the age
> of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total PITA, but
> can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
U500. Right?
Cheri
Apr 18, 2013, 10:33:46 PM4/18/13
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> have none to waste. At some point I am going to have to reuse a needle.
> And I'm not supposed to do that.
Why not?
Cheri
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> have none to waste. At some point I am going to have to reuse a needle.
> And I'm not supposed to do that.
Cheri
Julie Bove
Apr 18, 2013, 11:53:58 PM4/18/13
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difficult for me to do. They are long and I would have severe trouble
putting a cap back on one. Most likely I would stick myself and/or bend the
needle.
When I had the shorter ones, the CDE I was seeing at the time said it was
safe to use one three times but for emergencies only. I did try to recap
those tiny things and kept sticking myself. Now I just use the needle
clipper.
Needles are not like lancets. Lancets are easy to resuse. Needles are not.
I know some here resuse them. I won't be one of them. Not unless I have
to. I can't just go buy needles here. I have to have a prescription for
them. And I was only allowed 2 per day for 30 days.
Cheri
Apr 19, 2013, 12:40:58 AM4/19/13
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can't reuse them. Nothing wrong with that if that's your choice. BTW, it
says right on the lancets not to reuse them too.
Cheri
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 12:53:25 AM4/19/13
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No... It says right on the package NOT to reuse them. And I was TOLD not
to reuse them. Today's needles are much thinner and more fragile than
needles in the past. And it does not say on the lancets not to reuse them.
Not on mine anyway. And I was TOLD to reuse those!
to reuse them. Today's needles are much thinner and more fragile than
needles in the past. And it does not say on the lancets not to reuse them.
Not on mine anyway. And I was TOLD to reuse those!
Oldmilret
Apr 19, 2013, 7:40:03 AM4/19/13
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prescription needed. The law was changed in 2002...
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 8:02:39 AM4/19/13
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insulin in a vial when he upped my dose. I was using Rite Aid then. Would
have been after 2002 to be sure because I didn't live here then. They told
me that I needed a prescription for the needles.
Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
outsider
Apr 19, 2013, 8:59:45 AM4/19/13
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> "BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
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>> On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>>
>>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do
>>> it
>>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>>
>> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
>> molehill.
>
> It's not a molehill to me. It's a big frustration. I bent two needles
> today and was forced to shoot with a bent one. I wasted one needle. And I
> have none to waste. At some point I am going to have to reuse a needle.
> And I'm not supposed to do that.
I reuse them till they're dull, and often a few times beyond. The
> "BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
> news:kkq4os$9rd$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>>
>>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do
>>> it
>>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>>
>> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
>> molehill.
>
> It's not a molehill to me. It's a big frustration. I bent two needles
> today and was forced to shoot with a bent one. I wasted one needle. And I
> have none to waste. At some point I am going to have to reuse a needle.
> And I'm not supposed to do that.
people telling me not to reuse the needles aren't paying for them.
Any time they're willing to provide them at no cost to me I'll use
needles only once.
Weren't you also told to attend church every week? It is clear to me
that you're selective about what you listen to, and what you don't.
I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
big deal.
outsider
Apr 19, 2013, 9:05:31 AM4/19/13
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live in. I'll bet if you asked for a prescription that allows a few
spares, they'd give it to you. Are you next going to tell me you don't
have room to store a few spare needles?
Whatever way a person lives is usually determined by the choices they
make.
Cheri
Apr 19, 2013, 9:06:27 AM4/19/13
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> Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
> prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
"couldn't" get them without a prescription. There is a difference.
Cheri
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Apr 19, 2013, 10:22:17 AM4/19/13
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> x-no-archive: yes
> They're very, very cheap. About $20 for 100.
>
> Susan
Yep, less than one trip out to eat.
Cheri
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Susan
Yep, less than one trip out to eat.
Cheri
W. Baker
Apr 19, 2013, 12:47:45 PM4/19/13
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: "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
Thirty years ago , when I w on insulin, the needle container said not to reuse, but when I
sked my endo, he said 3 time was reuse was just fine. Not U500, but not short neeles
either.
Wendy
: "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
sked my endo, he said 3 time was reuse was just fine. Not U500, but not short neeles
either.
Wendy
W. Baker
Apr 19, 2013, 12:50:27 PM4/19/13
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
: "Oldmilret" <oldm...@comcast.net> wrote in message
That's your descsion, of course, but they are available and don't cost like the meds do.
Wendy
: "Oldmilret" <oldm...@comcast.net> wrote in message
Wendy
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 5:47:31 PM4/19/13
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"outsider" <outs...@sometime.individual.net> wrote in message
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stopped when I was 16.
>
> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
> big deal.
How did you straighten it?
> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
> big deal.
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 5:49:13 PM4/19/13
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I just looked at the package again. There is a lubricant on the needle. It
will not be there if you use it second time. I did reuse the mini needles
only when I had to do more than one shot. At times that means using it
three times in a row. But those needles are tiny! I have a heck of a time
getting the 1/2" ones in me. There is sooo much resistance. They just do
not want to go in. I wouldn't want to put one in a second time.
will not be there if you use it second time. I did reuse the mini needles
only when I had to do more than one shot. At times that means using it
three times in a row. But those needles are tiny! I have a heck of a time
getting the 1/2" ones in me. There is sooo much resistance. They just do
not want to go in. I wouldn't want to put one in a second time.
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 5:49:57 PM4/19/13
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> On 4/19/2013 9:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
> They're very, very cheap. About $20 for 100.
$20 is not cheap to me! I'm glad you have so much money that you think that
is cheap.
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 5:51:14 PM4/19/13
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I don't know where *you* go out to eat but I would *never* eat at a place
that cost $20 unless it were some sort of super fancy party. But I can
assure you that I wouldn't enjoy it. I do not like to eat food that is that
expensive. It's not even something that appeals to me.
that cost $20 unless it were some sort of super fancy party. But I can
assure you that I wouldn't enjoy it. I do not like to eat food that is that
expensive. It's not even something that appeals to me.
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 5:52:18 PM4/19/13
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quite cheap.
outsider
Apr 19, 2013, 6:05:43 PM4/19/13
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>> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
>> big deal.
>
> How did you straighten it?
W. Baker
Apr 19, 2013, 6:09:40 PM4/19/13
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
: "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote in message
: > : me that I needed a prescription for the needles.
than tha. Only the generics that are on the drugstore $11 for 3 months deal are cheaper,
as at @0 for 100 you would get 50 days from 1 purchase.
Wendy
: "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote in message
: > : me that I needed a prescription for the needles.
: >
: > : Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
: > : prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
: >
: > That's your descsion, of course, but they are available and don't cost
: > like the meds do.
: What do you mean they don't cost like the meds do? Some of my meds are
: quite cheap.
Without a perscription? Even getting generis for 25% via my health plan , most cost more
: > : Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
: > : prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
: >
: > That's your descsion, of course, but they are available and don't cost
: > like the meds do.
: What do you mean they don't cost like the meds do? Some of my meds are
: quite cheap.
than tha. Only the generics that are on the drugstore $11 for 3 months deal are cheaper,
as at @0 for 100 you would get 50 days from 1 purchase.
Wendy
Oldmilret
Apr 19, 2013, 7:01:20 PM4/19/13
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BessieBee
Apr 19, 2013, 9:15:10 PM4/19/13
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On 4/19/2013 7:59 AM, outsider wrote:
> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
> big deal.
>
When I first went on insulin I was being shown how to inject myself.
> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
> big deal.
>
The nurse demonstrating the proper technique bent the needle. She kind
of chuckled at herself and said something like, "stuff happens." She
told me that happens occasionally and if/when it did to me I just needed
to gently straighten the needle and then use it.
Molehills should remain molehills.
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Don Roberto
Apr 19, 2013, 9:35:30 PM4/19/13
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you can only choose from your choices.
Don Roberto
Apr 19, 2013, 9:35:45 PM4/19/13
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Don Roberto
Apr 19, 2013, 9:36:08 PM4/19/13
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On 4/19/2013 2:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:kkrju...@news1.newsguy.com...
>> "Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:atd197...@mid.individual.net...
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>> On 4/19/2013 9:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:kkrbjs$o9f$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>>> Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
>>>>> prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
>>>>
>>>> That should be you "won't" get them without a prescription, not you
>>>> "couldn't" get them without a prescription. There is a difference.
>>>
>>> They're very, very cheap. About $20 for 100.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>
>> Yep, less than one trip out to eat.
>
> I don't know where *you* go out to eat but I would *never* eat at a place
> that cost $20 unless it were some sort of super fancy party.
$20 for a party of 3 is hilariously cheap.
> "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:kkrju...@news1.newsguy.com...
>> "Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:atd197...@mid.individual.net...
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>> On 4/19/2013 9:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:kkrbjs$o9f$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>>> Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
>>>>> prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
>>>>
>>>> That should be you "won't" get them without a prescription, not you
>>>> "couldn't" get them without a prescription. There is a difference.
>>>
>>> They're very, very cheap. About $20 for 100.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>
>> Yep, less than one trip out to eat.
>
> I don't know where *you* go out to eat but I would *never* eat at a place
> that cost $20 unless it were some sort of super fancy party.
Even for 2 - assuming your husband is on the road again - it is cheap.
Try to be a little less disingenuous.
Opple0pad
Apr 19, 2013, 10:13:01 PM4/19/13
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:43:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>"Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>news:r8lum8db83fbeqg16...@4ax.com...
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>"Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:38:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe. But only certain ones can be used with this insulin. I am holding
>>>it in my hand now. The needle is sooo long! I don't want to shoot it.
>>>:(
>>
>> U500 is not to be injected into muscle or veins ONLY subQ. You may
>> need to inject at angle not straight in. A 1/2 syringe should be
>> okay, but if your doctor approves after checking your injection sites
>> you may be able to a 1/3 inch syringe (shorter needle).
>
>The CDE said that I *had* to use the long one and it had to be straight in.
>>
>>>
>>>Well, I did it but I feel like I am going to pass out. The needle didn't
>>>actually hurt but the thought of it going into me made me sick. And I
>>>don't
>>>think I took the right dose. I managed to pull it back to the right
>>>amount
>>>but from there, everything got clumsy. Once I turned the bottle upside
>>>down
>>>and tried to draw the syringe back, everything got all clumsy. It was
>>>next
>>>to impossible to hold both things at once.
>>
>> The correct procedure is to draw air into the syringe first to the
>> same amount or just over the amount of your dosage.
>
>I know. That part isn't the problem. It's getting the insulin into the
>needle. Very hard to see the markings while trying to hold the bottle
>upside down and the syringe into it.
>>
>> You then inject that air into the insulin vial. Increasing the
>> internal pressure of the vial making it far easier to draw the insulin
>> back out of the vial into the syringe.
>
>I know.
>>
>> Draw slightly more insulin into the syringe than you need. And extra
>> five units is usually more than enough. With the syringe either still
>> in the vial or taking it out, tap the syringe to force any small air
>> bubbles up to the needle then pressure the plunger slowly injecting
>> the air and the excess insulin back into the vial or out into the open
>> until you reach your correct dose.
>
>I sure couldn't shoot extra insulin into the air! My insurance company only
>allows me the exact amount.
BS your insurance company fills what is prescribed. Since the bottles
cannot be split any insulin user would be short changing themselves
not have the script over written by a little to force the insurance to
pay for more as will always be needed for everyone injecting insulin.
> And how would drawing any more into it make it
>easier? It wouldn't.
Because it's easier injecting excess back into the bottle than drawing
it up and trying to stop at an exact dose when you WILL get air into
the syringe that needs to be removed to allow an actual exact dose.
>>
>> Then inject into yourself.
>>
>>
>> Then I pulled back the syringe
>>>too far and a drop of insulin plopped out.
>>>
>>
>> Happens all the time, ignore it.
>
>Oh. Well I learned that what I have to do is put the plunger against my
>computer desk. That stops me from pulling it out.
>>
>>>I had to started over. Took me three attempts and I still don't think I
>>>got
>>>the dose right. I think I took one unit too little. It was impossible
>>>for
>>>me to read the markings while everything was upside down like that. Maybe
>>>this will get better with time, but I don't see how. And now the spot
>>>where
>>>I injected is starting to hurt really badly. :(
>>>
>>
>>
>> Tell your doctor to give you a bottle of sterile saline so you can
>> practice drawing up your doses and injecting them into an orange. This
>> is the tried and true training method for children as young as 5 and
>> it works great for getting the dose correct and developing the
>> coordination/dexterity required to use a syringe correctly.
>
>My Dr. has nothing to do with insulin or its injection. Plus I can't get
>any extra syringes. And how in the world would injecting into an orange
>help me to inject it into *me*? Can't pinch up the skin on an orange. Not
>a fresh one anyway.
>>
>> Saline vials come in the same sizes as insulin vials.
>
>No need for that.
>
If you are going to be stupid about this and refuse to do what needs
to be done to learn, you will never get it right. Which is what you
want anyway.
YOU WANT THE NEEDLESS DRAMA/
Opple0pad
Apr 19, 2013, 10:16:29 PM4/19/13
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:59:44 -0500, BessieBee
<Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote:
>On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>age of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total
>PITA, but can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
She does not want to. But she does enjoy all the added useless drama.
Hence all of the blogging about how unfair and uncooperative life and
it's people are for her.
<Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote:
>On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>
>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>
>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do it
>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>
>I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
>molehill.
>
>My cousin's son was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 2. From the
>
>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>
>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do it
>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>
>I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
>molehill.
>
>age of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total
>PITA, but can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
She does not want to. But she does enjoy all the added useless drama.
Hence all of the blogging about how unfair and uncooperative life and
it's people are for her.
Opple0pad
Apr 19, 2013, 10:22:47 PM4/19/13
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:31:08 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>"BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
>news:kkq4os$9rd$1...@dont-email.me...
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>"BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
>news:kkq4os$9rd$1...@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/17/2013 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>>
>>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do
>>> it
>>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>>
>> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
>> molehill.
>
>>> "Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
>>> news:34kum8ldotk27drk9...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> I learned all this at 5 years old. Hold the syringe needle up. The
>>>> top edge of the black piece that actually touches the insulin is the
>>>> part you line up to the markings on the syringe.
>>>
>>> Well, bully for you that you learned this at age 5. I had no need to do
>>> it
>>> at that age. And I figured out how to line it up.
>>>
>> I believe you miss the point here. You're making a mountain out of a
>> molehill.
>
>It's not a molehill to me. It's a big frustration. I bent two needles
>today and was forced to shoot with a bent one. I wasted one needle. And I
>today and was forced to shoot with a bent one. I wasted one needle. And I
>have none to waste. At some point I am going to have to reuse a needle.
>And I'm not supposed to do that.
Many diabetics do reuse syringes. It's a personal choice. Syringes
>And I'm not supposed to do that.
are not expensive. And you can get them even cheaper by buying the
relion brand from walmart.
You can by them in packages as small as 10 per sealed bag or 100 per
box.
But if you had been practicing with an orange you would have learned
to avoid your mistakes.
>>
>> My cousin's son was diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 2. From the age
>> of 4 on he began to learn how to care for himself. It's a total PITA, but
>> can be done quite easily. You can do it, too.
>
>U500. Right?
>
Your mistakes have nothing to do with the type of insulin being used.
Your mistakes are due to operator error. But to answer your question,
yes there are children who do use U500.
Opple0pad
Apr 19, 2013, 10:25:58 PM4/19/13
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 20:53:58 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>Needles are not like lancets. Lancets are easy to resuse. Needles are not.
>I know some here resuse them. I won't be one of them. Not unless I have
>to. I can't just go buy needles here. I have to have a prescription for
>them. And I was only allowed 2 per day for 30 days.
>
Actually it does NOT matter how many you are prescribed, you can buy
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
>Needles are not like lancets. Lancets are easy to resuse. Needles are not.
>I know some here resuse them. I won't be one of them. Not unless I have
>to. I can't just go buy needles here. I have to have a prescription for
>them. And I was only allowed 2 per day for 30 days.
>
them out of pocket over your prescription and even without a
prescription if your pharmacist knows you are taking insulin or even
allergy shots. You simply walk in ask for more, and sign the book.
Stop making up excuses.
Opple0pad
Apr 19, 2013, 10:32:30 PM4/19/13
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spoil. Angela goes to multiple dance classes. And you do eat out.
But then using 1 one syringe to practice with would have helped you to
stop wasting them.
Opple0pad
Apr 19, 2013, 10:35:14 PM4/19/13
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On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 16:01:20 -0700, Oldmilret <oldm...@comcast.net>
wrote:
If it is, then it woulod have 17$ for a box of 100 as well as 6 bags
of 10.
wrote:
of 10.
Cheri
Apr 19, 2013, 11:47:46 PM4/19/13
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"Don Roberto" <anothas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> $20 for a party of 3 is hilariously cheap.
> Even for 2 - assuming your husband is on the road again - it is cheap.
> Try to be a little less disingenuous.
Yep, and all the food she wastes by throwing it out for one reason or
another just going by her own words...but, to each their own.
Cheri
news:kksr90$3el$6...@dont-email.me...
> $20 for a party of 3 is hilariously cheap.
> Even for 2 - assuming your husband is on the road again - it is cheap.
> Try to be a little less disingenuous.
another just going by her own words...but, to each their own.
Cheri
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 11:54:10 PM4/19/13
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No. Athiest. Always. I only went to church because I was not given a
choice in those days. I guess my parents believed that by age 16 I was old
enough to make up my own mind on that. Oddly, my brother who is 2.5 years
younger was also allowed to not go to church. But then it was a rather odd
thing too because my parents are not athiests but they quit going, aside
from a brief period of time when my nephew wanted to go. My brother is very
strong on the athiest front and would not take him to church. So my parents
did.
choice in those days. I guess my parents believed that by age 16 I was old
enough to make up my own mind on that. Oddly, my brother who is 2.5 years
younger was also allowed to not go to church. But then it was a rather odd
thing too because my parents are not athiests but they quit going, aside
from a brief period of time when my nephew wanted to go. My brother is very
strong on the athiest front and would not take him to church. So my parents
did.
>
>>> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
>>> big deal.
>>
>> How did you straighten it?
>
> I used the cap.
Hmmm...
>>> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
>>> big deal.
>>
>> How did you straighten it?
>
> I used the cap.
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 11:56:32 PM4/19/13
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I have no clue what my copay is. But once I have reached the catastrophic
cap, everything is free. They just raised the copays. That's all I know
and it is confusing because it is no longer a set amount. It is either some
amount or 20%. Whichever is more. All I know is that two prescriptions for
Angela, my syringes and the insulin were just over $50. But there is no way
I will pay $20 for 100 syringes, even though I know for a fact that they are
more than $20 because I did look online. I do not need 100 extra needles.
cap, everything is free. They just raised the copays. That's all I know
and it is confusing because it is no longer a set amount. It is either some
amount or 20%. Whichever is more. All I know is that two prescriptions for
Angela, my syringes and the insulin were just over $50. But there is no way
I will pay $20 for 100 syringes, even though I know for a fact that they are
more than $20 because I did look online. I do not need 100 extra needles.
Julie Bove
Apr 19, 2013, 11:57:54 PM4/19/13
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"Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
for 90 days then it would be for 180. If for 30 days, would be for 60. I
got 60.
Julie Bove
Apr 20, 2013, 12:14:48 AM4/20/13
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It's kind of hard to budget money that I don't have. Once the VA coughs up
what they owe us since Sept., then I will have some.
what they owe us since Sept., then I will have some.
Julie Bove
Apr 20, 2013, 12:18:36 AM4/20/13
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"Opple0pad" <Op...@Opple.com> wrote in message
Because he makes the same claim and it simply is not true.
Angela's dance classes are none of your business. They are paid for.
That's all that matters.
I only wasted one because the needle was bent. And now I have bent two
more. It seems that it is impossible for me to fill them without bending
them, at least most of the time. They are just too long for me to work
with.
Julie Bove
Apr 20, 2013, 12:19:49 AM4/20/13
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have said for some time. He lives there. He was never on the road.
> On 4/19/2013 2:51 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>> news:kkrju...@news1.newsguy.com...
>>> "Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message
>>> news:atd197...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2013 9:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:kkrbjs$o9f$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
>>>>>> prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> That should be you "won't" get them without a prescription, not you
>>>>> "couldn't" get them without a prescription. There is a difference.
>>>>
>>>> They're very, very cheap. About $20 for 100.
>>>>
>>>> Susan
>>>
>>> Yep, less than one trip out to eat.
>>
>> I don't know where *you* go out to eat but I would *never* eat at a place
>> that cost $20 unless it were some sort of super fancy party.
>
> $20 for a party of 3 is hilariously cheap.
> Even for 2 - assuming your husband is on the road again - it is cheap.
> Try to be a little less disingenuous.
Who said anything about a party of three? My husband is in NY. Just like I
>> "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>> news:kkrju...@news1.newsguy.com...
>>> "Susan" <su...@nothanks.org> wrote in message
>>> news:atd197...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>
>>>> On 4/19/2013 9:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:kkrbjs$o9f$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay. I stand corrected. But... I still couldn't get them without a
>>>>>> prescription because I am unwilling to pay OOP for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> That should be you "won't" get them without a prescription, not you
>>>>> "couldn't" get them without a prescription. There is a difference.
>>>>
>>>> They're very, very cheap. About $20 for 100.
>>>>
>>>> Susan
>>>
>>> Yep, less than one trip out to eat.
>>
>> I don't know where *you* go out to eat but I would *never* eat at a place
>> that cost $20 unless it were some sort of super fancy party.
>
> $20 for a party of 3 is hilariously cheap.
> Even for 2 - assuming your husband is on the road again - it is cheap.
> Try to be a little less disingenuous.
have said for some time. He lives there. He was never on the road.
Julie Bove
Apr 20, 2013, 12:20:51 AM4/20/13
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What do you mean without a prescription? You can't get meds without a
prescription! Unless they are OTC. Some of our meds are as little as $5
for a prescription.
prescription! Unless they are OTC. Some of our meds are as little as $5
for a prescription.
Opple0pad
Apr 20, 2013, 12:24:31 AM4/20/13
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On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:56:32 -0700, "Julie Bove"
You are injecting insulin, 100 or 1000 will never be extra, as they do
NOT expire and will get used.
NOT expire and will get used.
Julie Bove
Apr 20, 2013, 12:22:25 AM4/20/13
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"BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
> On 4/19/2013 7:59 AM, outsider wrote:
>
>> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
>> big deal.
>>
> When I first went on insulin I was being shown how to inject myself. The
> nurse demonstrating the proper technique bent the needle. She kind of
> chuckled at herself and said something like, "stuff happens." She told me
> that happens occasionally and if/when it did to me I just needed to gently
> straighten the needle and then use it.
>
And how did she straighten it? I tried to. It did get a little straighter
>
>> I had a bent needle just last week. I straightened it and used it. No
>> big deal.
>>
> When I first went on insulin I was being shown how to inject myself. The
> nurse demonstrating the proper technique bent the needle. She kind of
> chuckled at herself and said something like, "stuff happens." She told me
> that happens occasionally and if/when it did to me I just needed to gently
> straighten the needle and then use it.
>
but not much. And I don't want to prick my fingers.
> Molehills should remain molehills.
Says who?
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