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Julie Bove
Jun 10, 2013, 11:00:45 PM6/10/13
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I am sooo confused! After having nothing but problems with the mail order
pharmacy (Tricare Express Scripts) that was supposed to save me money but
really didn't, I switched back to Bartell Drugs where I've had no problems
save for that period of time awhile back where there was some weird conflict
between them and Tricare and they would only allow me 30 days of whatever at
a time.
So... Because I have Medicare Part B, the strips for my meter were free to
me! I mentioned to the pharmacist that the Express Scripts charged me money
for them and shouldn't have. She agreed. She also said that Tricare had no
record of my having Medicare and I had to fill out a bunch of paperwork. So
did she and so did my Dr. I told her that they did know because it was in
my file and I also told them this when I signed up.
So today there was a paper in my snail mail box for me to fill out and send
in, regarding OHI and it said that my insurance company might have to fill
something out. I didn't understand this. So I called the 800 number
listed.
Guy on the phone said that if I didn't have other prescription coverage then
I don't have OHI so shouldn't fill the paper out. Said that Medicare
doesn't count as OHI. I was like... Oh! So you're just wasting my time
then! Well... Mine and his.
And then the argument began. Asked him why when I used them, I didn't get
my strips for free. He told me that they are not a prescription and only
Drs. and hospitals can give them to me for free. Say what? Who here gets
their strips from them? Unless it is a sample or something. Said that
*they* (Tricare Express Scripts) are strictly a pharmacy. And they only do
prescriptions. They don't bill Medicare. Said pharmacies do not do that.
I said that Bartell's did and he replied to me that they are not a pharmacy.
Gee... Gonna have to tell my two friends who work there in the pharmacy
department that they apparently are lying to people by saying that they work
in the PHARMACY!
I then asked him how *they* were supposed to be saving me money if they were
making me pay for the strips that are supposed to be free to me. He just
repeated that they are a pharmacy and they don't do that! Whatever. Hung
up on the dude.
I do know that not all places take Medicare and I would assume that this
applies to pharmacies too. But... It kind of seems like my own insurance
is trying to screw me! They (Tricare) forced me to take Medicare in order
to keep my insurance, (Tricare) and yet... If I use the mail order route
that they are also trying to force me to take (Got another pamphlet in the
mail for it today...would save me money!) it, then where is my savings?
Because they won't bill Medicare. Unless this is something I was supposed
to have done on my own but I wouldn't even know how. I just foolishly
assumed that since they knew that I had Medicare, they would do this for me.
Grumble, grumble, grumble.
If you are on Medicare, where do you get your strips? At a pharmacy? Or
somewhere else? And if somewhere else, what kind of place is it? And are
they free to you?
pharmacy (Tricare Express Scripts) that was supposed to save me money but
really didn't, I switched back to Bartell Drugs where I've had no problems
save for that period of time awhile back where there was some weird conflict
between them and Tricare and they would only allow me 30 days of whatever at
a time.
So... Because I have Medicare Part B, the strips for my meter were free to
me! I mentioned to the pharmacist that the Express Scripts charged me money
for them and shouldn't have. She agreed. She also said that Tricare had no
record of my having Medicare and I had to fill out a bunch of paperwork. So
did she and so did my Dr. I told her that they did know because it was in
my file and I also told them this when I signed up.
So today there was a paper in my snail mail box for me to fill out and send
in, regarding OHI and it said that my insurance company might have to fill
something out. I didn't understand this. So I called the 800 number
listed.
Guy on the phone said that if I didn't have other prescription coverage then
I don't have OHI so shouldn't fill the paper out. Said that Medicare
doesn't count as OHI. I was like... Oh! So you're just wasting my time
then! Well... Mine and his.
And then the argument began. Asked him why when I used them, I didn't get
my strips for free. He told me that they are not a prescription and only
Drs. and hospitals can give them to me for free. Say what? Who here gets
their strips from them? Unless it is a sample or something. Said that
*they* (Tricare Express Scripts) are strictly a pharmacy. And they only do
prescriptions. They don't bill Medicare. Said pharmacies do not do that.
I said that Bartell's did and he replied to me that they are not a pharmacy.
Gee... Gonna have to tell my two friends who work there in the pharmacy
department that they apparently are lying to people by saying that they work
in the PHARMACY!
I then asked him how *they* were supposed to be saving me money if they were
making me pay for the strips that are supposed to be free to me. He just
repeated that they are a pharmacy and they don't do that! Whatever. Hung
up on the dude.
I do know that not all places take Medicare and I would assume that this
applies to pharmacies too. But... It kind of seems like my own insurance
is trying to screw me! They (Tricare) forced me to take Medicare in order
to keep my insurance, (Tricare) and yet... If I use the mail order route
that they are also trying to force me to take (Got another pamphlet in the
mail for it today...would save me money!) it, then where is my savings?
Because they won't bill Medicare. Unless this is something I was supposed
to have done on my own but I wouldn't even know how. I just foolishly
assumed that since they knew that I had Medicare, they would do this for me.
Grumble, grumble, grumble.
If you are on Medicare, where do you get your strips? At a pharmacy? Or
somewhere else? And if somewhere else, what kind of place is it? And are
they free to you?
bitch
Jun 11, 2013, 5:25:35 AM6/11/13
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with. They screw up a wet dream. Can't read prescriptions, and
always cause problems. An absolutely horrible place to deal with.
Never a problem with walmart.
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 6:06:13 AM6/11/13
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the corner and they are great! Have to use Express Scripts because that is
the insurance I have but refuse to do the mail order again. I am worried
because it said on the Medicare website that we may have to change where we
get our strips come July 1. Also saw that the pharmacist at Bartell's was
wrong. Medicare covers the meters and lancets but... I have never gotten a
meter through insurance. Those are usually an emergency purchase for me so
no time to get the script. Also have never turned in for lancets since I
rarely change them. Says it will cover lancing devices too but I just get
those for cheap on Ebay. The Bayer ones that they are making now are
crappy. Always break in a few months.
shmar...@ticnet.com
Jun 11, 2013, 8:45:11 AM6/11/13
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Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 10:40:01 AM6/11/13
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shmar...@ticnet.com wrote:
>
> Since when did Medicare Part B entitle you to free test strips? My
> part D gets me strips, but I still have a co-pay. Plus, I had to
> fill out several forms specific to the test strips. Since the strips
> themselves are actually an over-the-counter product they want to make
> sure I'm not going to turn around and sell them on eBay.
Since I have that *and* Tricare. So far I have not had to pay a dime out of
>
> Since when did Medicare Part B entitle you to free test strips? My
> part D gets me strips, but I still have a co-pay. Plus, I had to
> fill out several forms specific to the test strips. Since the strips
> themselves are actually an over-the-counter product they want to make
> sure I'm not going to turn around and sell them on eBay.
pocket for any medical stuff except for my meds. And that's because I only
have Tricare for prescriptions.
If you are using part D for strips, then something is wrong. Part B covers
strips. They are considered durable medical. D is for meds. I had to fill
out several forms too as did the pharmacist and my Dr.
MaryL
Jun 11, 2013, 1:39:31 PM6/11/13
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If you are on Medicare, where do you get your strips? At a pharmacy? Or
somewhere else? And if somewhere else, what kind of place is it? And are
they free to you?
I use Walgreens. They bill Medicare as my primary insurance and my
insurance company through my former employer (I am retired) as secondary.
Medicare pays 80%, and my insurance company (which uses Silver Script) pays
the rest. I used CCS Medical for several years. They would send a 3 months
supply by mail. I was satisfied until about a year ago, when they would no
longer carry strips for the meter I use. I changed meters, then they
started making noises about changing meters again--they clearly wanted me to
use their own. At that time, I switched to Walgreens. I had already bought
cables for two meters so I can download and then print information for my
doctor, and I was not willing to do that again.
MaryL
Colt T
Jun 11, 2013, 2:05:24 PM6/11/13
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I take generic meds from Costco mail order, but the last time I got
doxazosin Costco went from $10 to $34 so I got it from Walmart mail
order for $10, for a 90 day supply.
doxazosin Costco went from $10 to $34 so I got it from Walmart mail
order for $10, for a 90 day supply.
W. Baker
Jun 11, 2013, 3:24:57 PM6/11/13
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Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
I am top posting because of the length of your letter. I am on Medicare
and have ,fo rthe past 12 years obtained my strips from one of the mail
order companies like Liberty, NOT through Express Scrips , where I got my
medictions. Strips can also be obtained from neighborhood drugstoreswith
pharmacies. there is a new system coming in July first that may require
some adjustments, but I will know when I need to getmore strips. I can
now get them at the big drugstore accross the street as they are
advertising that in a big way, so I might well do that.
I hope this helps just a little. don't figure on Express Scripts for
strips they never handles thm for my plan.
Wendy
: I am sooo confused! After having nothing but problems with the mail order
I am top posting because of the length of your letter. I am on Medicare
and have ,fo rthe past 12 years obtained my strips from one of the mail
order companies like Liberty, NOT through Express Scrips , where I got my
medictions. Strips can also be obtained from neighborhood drugstoreswith
pharmacies. there is a new system coming in July first that may require
some adjustments, but I will know when I need to getmore strips. I can
now get them at the big drugstore accross the street as they are
advertising that in a big way, so I might well do that.
I hope this helps just a little. don't figure on Express Scripts for
strips they never handles thm for my plan.
Wendy
: I am sooo confused! After having nothing but problems with the mail order
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 5:56:44 PM6/11/13
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Walgreens no longer takes Tricare. So... That guy at Tricare was wrong.
Pharmacies *do* take Medicare.
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 5:57:43 PM6/11/13
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Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 5:59:55 PM6/11/13
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W. Baker wrote:
> Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> I am top posting because of the length of your letter. I am on
> Medicare and have ,fo rthe past 12 years obtained my strips from one
> of the mail order companies like Liberty, NOT through Express Scrips
> , where I got my medictions. Strips can also be obtained from
> neighborhood drugstoreswith pharmacies. there is a new system coming
> in July first that may require some adjustments, but I will know when
> I need to getmore strips. I can now get them at the big drugstore
> accross the street as they are advertising that in a big way, so I
> might well do that.
>
> I hope this helps just a little. don't figure on Express Scripts for
> strips they never handles thm for my plan.
>
> Wendy
Thanks! I just wish from the git go they had told me that they didn't do
> Julie Bove <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> I am top posting because of the length of your letter. I am on
> Medicare and have ,fo rthe past 12 years obtained my strips from one
> of the mail order companies like Liberty, NOT through Express Scrips
> , where I got my medictions. Strips can also be obtained from
> neighborhood drugstoreswith pharmacies. there is a new system coming
> in July first that may require some adjustments, but I will know when
> I need to getmore strips. I can now get them at the big drugstore
> accross the street as they are advertising that in a big way, so I
> might well do that.
>
> I hope this helps just a little. don't figure on Express Scripts for
> strips they never handles thm for my plan.
>
> Wendy
Medicare. I did track back on my EOB and they only charged me $9 for 90
days of strips so not really a big deal. It's just the principle of the
thing. And I think they are taking advantage of people.
Bob Bloggs
Jun 11, 2013, 8:17:32 PM6/11/13
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>I am sooo confused! After having nothing but problems with the mail order
>pSNIP
>
>Grumble, grumble, grumble.
>
>If you are on Medicare, where do you get your strips? At a pharmacy? Or
>somewhere else? And if somewhere else, what kind of place is it? And are
>they free to you?
>
I get my strips from the same company that I get my oxygen from. Free
>Grumble, grumble, grumble.
>
>If you are on Medicare, where do you get your strips? At a pharmacy? Or
>somewhere else? And if somewhere else, what kind of place is it? And are
>they free to you?
>
by Medicare.
MaryL
Jun 11, 2013, 8:27:29 PM6/11/13
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Yes, they do. I also get most of my inoculations (flu shot, etc.) at
Walgreens, and Medicare pays the entire cost.
MaryL
Graf Bobby
Jun 11, 2013, 8:44:56 PM6/11/13
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Graf Bobby
Jun 11, 2013, 8:54:12 PM6/11/13
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remember this as being part of the good old days..
> If you are on Medicare, where do you get your strips? At a pharmacy?
Or
> somewhere else?
Yep.
And if somewhere else, what kind of place is it?
http://tinyurl.com/mgfoxlu
And are
> they free to you?
>
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 9:51:30 PM6/11/13
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Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 9:53:21 PM6/11/13
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specifics. I really want one of shingles but am not sure I am old enough.
I think you used to have to be 60 to get it. Two people I know got the
virus recently and I sure don't want it!
MaryL
Jun 11, 2013, 10:21:28 PM6/11/13
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I had to pay a considerable amount of money for my shingles vaccine because
my insurance did not cover it. I don't remember what Medicare did about
that one, but it was treated in a different manner than most inoculations.
I had shingles some years ago, and it was incredibly painful--I could not
even bear to have a sheet touch my back. So, I was going to get the
vaccine, no matter what it cost. My doctor warned me that it really was not
recommended (but not dangerous) for those who have already had shingles, but
I wanted to do everything possible to reduce the risk of another episode.
My mother had shingles twice in her lifetime. Incidentally, I am retired
and well past the age of 60, so I don't know if Medicare will work the same
for you. I assume from your message that you are under the age of 60.
MaryL
Cheri
Jun 11, 2013, 10:23:07 PM6/11/13
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> Really? Hmmm... Bartells does some innoculations but I don't know the
> specifics. I really want one of shingles but am not sure I am old enough.
> I think you used to have to be 60 to get it. Two people I know got the
> virus recently and I sure don't want it!
I don't know about Washington, but when I got mine last year in CA they said
you had to be 50 or older when a younger guy asked for it, but I imagine
that could have changed. Dunno for sure.
Cheri
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> Really? Hmmm... Bartells does some innoculations but I don't know the
> specifics. I really want one of shingles but am not sure I am old enough.
> I think you used to have to be 60 to get it. Two people I know got the
> virus recently and I sure don't want it!
you had to be 50 or older when a younger guy asked for it, but I imagine
that could have changed. Dunno for sure.
Cheri
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 10:39:22 PM6/11/13
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I'll be 54 soon. I know that Tricare will cover it if Medicare won't but I
don't know if I have to be a certain age to get it covered.
don't know if I have to be a certain age to get it covered.
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 10:40:25 PM6/11/13
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aside from the diabetes because there is just too much else going on with
other people right now. Hopefully I can do stuff this summer.
Cheri
Jun 11, 2013, 11:08:42 PM6/11/13
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small patch on my neck that burned and burned and was kind of looking a bit
like blisters. It went away in about a week, but that was the catalyst for
me. That, and Walgreen's was the cheapest charging me 155.00 when the other
places in town were trying to charge well over 200.00. I didn't mind paying
the 155.00 and hope it works. I know people that have had it, and it's
fairly terrible.
Cheri
MaryL
Jun 11, 2013, 11:36:11 PM6/11/13
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I was not able to sign up for Medicare until I was 62. I had insurance
through my employment at the time. After I retired, I had to use Medicare
as my primary carrier and insurance from my former employer as secondary.
MaryL
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Jun 11, 2013, 11:40:25 PM6/11/13
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MaryL
Jun 11, 2013, 11:40:08 PM6/11/13
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I *strongly* recommend that you look into the possibility of getting
shingles vaccine ASAP. Don't put it off! I speak from experience when I
tell you that the pain was excruciating when I had shingles, and it lasted
for several weeks. Even at that, I was fortunate because I was given
medication that seemed to reduce the length and severity. It was very
expensive, but my insurance paid most of the cost. Some people have pain
for the rest of their lives from shingles (neuralgia).
MaryL
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 11:49:09 PM6/11/13
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I didn't want it but was forced to take it. When you get disability, you
have to take part A, no matter your age. When you are disabled, have
Tricare and your spouse retires from the military, you are forced to take
part B. I don't really understand why. But that's the way it is.
have to take part A, no matter your age. When you are disabled, have
Tricare and your spouse retires from the military, you are forced to take
part B. I don't really understand why. But that's the way it is.
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 11:49:51 PM6/11/13
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I don't really care how much it costs. I just want one!
Julie Bove
Jun 11, 2013, 11:50:14 PM6/11/13
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Colt T
Jun 12, 2013, 10:21:01 AM6/12/13
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Hocks.com has cheap strips, I paid $25 for 50 Bayer Contour strips with
free shipping.
free shipping.
Cheri
Jun 12, 2013, 10:30:01 AM6/12/13
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> In the Lyme vaccine trials, one of the rashes that was more common than a
> bullsye (which was the LEAST common culture + rash) was small clusters of
> vesicles, as you describe.
>
> Susan
Thanks for letting me know that.
Cheri
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> On 6/11/2013 11:08 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> I had a scare that sent me right over to Walgreen's to get one. There
>> was a small patch on my neck that burned and burned and was kind of
>> looking a bit like blisters. It went away in about a week, but that was
>> the catalyst for me. That, and Walgreen's was the cheapest charging me
>> 155.00 when the other places in town were trying to charge well over
>> 200.00. I didn't mind paying the 155.00 and hope it works. I know people
>> that have had it, and it's fairly terrible.
>
> Cheri, get tick disease tested, too.
> On 6/11/2013 11:08 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> I had a scare that sent me right over to Walgreen's to get one. There
>> was a small patch on my neck that burned and burned and was kind of
>> looking a bit like blisters. It went away in about a week, but that was
>> the catalyst for me. That, and Walgreen's was the cheapest charging me
>> 155.00 when the other places in town were trying to charge well over
>> 200.00. I didn't mind paying the 155.00 and hope it works. I know people
>> that have had it, and it's fairly terrible.
>
>
> In the Lyme vaccine trials, one of the rashes that was more common than a
> bullsye (which was the LEAST common culture + rash) was small clusters of
> vesicles, as you describe.
>
> Susan
Thanks for letting me know that.
Cheri
bj
Jun 12, 2013, 10:46:47 AM6/12/13
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"MaryL" <stan...@invalid.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I *strongly* recommend that you look into the possibility of getting
> shingles vaccine ASAP. Don't put it off! I speak from experience when I
> tell you that the pain was excruciating when I had shingles, and it
> lasted for several weeks. Even at that, I was fortunate because I was
> given medication that seemed to reduce the length and severity. It was
> very expensive, but my insurance paid most of the cost. Some people have
> pain for the rest of their lives from shingles (neuralgia).
> MaryL
I paid the $200 or so for a shingles shot soon after it was available;
>
> I *strongly* recommend that you look into the possibility of getting
> shingles vaccine ASAP. Don't put it off! I speak from experience when I
> tell you that the pain was excruciating when I had shingles, and it
> lasted for several weeks. Even at that, I was fortunate because I was
> given medication that seemed to reduce the length and severity. It was
> very expensive, but my insurance paid most of the cost. Some people have
> pain for the rest of their lives from shingles (neuralgia).
> MaryL
insurance didn't cover it but I didn't care -- I did have chicken pox as a
child, and I've heard more than enough about shingles to want to do what I
could to avoid it. I didn't have any problem with the shot, either, beyond
my usual off-colour-myeh for a day or two that I get after almost any
vaccination.
bj
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W. Baker
Jun 12, 2013, 11:31:12 AM6/12/13
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Medicare does not cover the shingles shot, or at lest didn't a few yers
ago, but some of yoru other insurance may. I think the age has been
reduces, possibly to 55 for beign able to get the shot. I had one several
years ago as I knew a large number of women(mostly aunts-of whom I had
many)who got this nasty disease shortly after being widowed. I also knew
a man who ws permanently damaged neurologically, with constant pain, as a
reult of his shingles attack. It can be very long lasting and nasty.
Wendy
: "MaryL" <stan...@invalid.yahoo.com> wrote in message
ago, but some of yoru other insurance may. I think the age has been
reduces, possibly to 55 for beign able to get the shot. I had one several
years ago as I knew a large number of women(mostly aunts-of whom I had
many)who got this nasty disease shortly after being widowed. I also knew
a man who ws permanently damaged neurologically, with constant pain, as a
reult of his shingles attack. It can be very long lasting and nasty.
Wendy
MaryL
Jun 12, 2013, 2:07:02 PM6/12/13
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I think everything you wrote is correct, except that the age now seems to be
50 or above. I wasn't thinking of the shingles vaccine when I said Medicare
paid the entire cost. I should have mentioned that because the vaccine is
expensive, and many insurance policies (including my own) do not cover it.
Nevertheless, I got the vaccine as soon as possible--after going through one
bout of shingles, I wanted to do anything I could to avoid another incident.
It is an incredibly painful condition, and some people (as you said) have
neurological damage for the rest of their lives. I think it's an outrage
that it is not covered because many people simply cannot afford it.
http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/shingles-vaccine
MaryL
Julie Bove
Jun 12, 2013, 5:20:07 PM6/12/13
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Hmmm... After reading that I am not sure if I should have it or not. Says
you should not if you had an allergic reaction to Neomycin. And I may have.
I can apply ointments containing it to my skin with no problems. But when
put in my eyes, I went temporarily blind. Eye Dr. said it was an allergy.
But... I don't know if it is the Neomycin or something else. I have since
used Bacitracin for an eye infection. Was fine for a while but then when
I'd put it in, my eyes would turn red as beets, swell up and itch. This was
over a holiday weekend so I just did what I had done before with the med
allergy. Eye scrubs and allergy drops. Then the problem went away.
But... Since I seem to be able to apply these same meds to my skin with no
problems, I am thinking it is something specific to the eye ointment that is
causing the trouble.
you should not if you had an allergic reaction to Neomycin. And I may have.
I can apply ointments containing it to my skin with no problems. But when
put in my eyes, I went temporarily blind. Eye Dr. said it was an allergy.
But... I don't know if it is the Neomycin or something else. I have since
used Bacitracin for an eye infection. Was fine for a while but then when
I'd put it in, my eyes would turn red as beets, swell up and itch. This was
over a holiday weekend so I just did what I had done before with the med
allergy. Eye scrubs and allergy drops. Then the problem went away.
But... Since I seem to be able to apply these same meds to my skin with no
problems, I am thinking it is something specific to the eye ointment that is
causing the trouble.
Julie Bove
Jun 12, 2013, 5:21:04 PM6/12/13
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"Colt T" <Col...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:8368-51B...@bsg-storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net...
> Hocks.com has cheap strips, I paid $25 for 50 Bayer Contour strips with
> free shipping.
Oh good grief! That is *not* cheap seeing as how I can get them for free.
> free shipping.
My question was specifically to people with Medicare.
MaryL
Jun 12, 2013, 6:10:15 PM6/12/13
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message news:kpaodd$5n8$1...@dont-email.me...
I think you should contact your doctor and ask about this. The Internet is
not a good source for making that decision. Good luck!
MaryL
bj
Jun 12, 2013, 9:40:58 PM6/12/13
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
> Hmmm... After reading that I am not sure if I should have it or not. Says
> you should not if you had an allergic reaction to Neomycin. And I may have.
> I can apply ointments containing it to my skin with no problems. But when
> put in my eyes, I went temporarily blind. Eye Dr. said it was an allergy.
> But... I don't know if it is the Neomycin or something else. I have since
> used Bacitracin for an eye infection. Was fine for a while but then when
> I'd put it in, my eyes would turn red as beets, swell up and itch. This was
> over a holiday weekend so I just did what I had done before with the med
> allergy. Eye scrubs and allergy drops. Then the problem went away.
>
> But... Since I seem to be able to apply these same meds to my skin with no
> problems, I am thinking it is something specific to the eye ointment that is
> causing the trouble.
You can look up all the ingredients -- active & inactive -- in all those
>
> Hmmm... After reading that I am not sure if I should have it or not. Says
> you should not if you had an allergic reaction to Neomycin. And I may have.
> I can apply ointments containing it to my skin with no problems. But when
> put in my eyes, I went temporarily blind. Eye Dr. said it was an allergy.
> But... I don't know if it is the Neomycin or something else. I have since
> used Bacitracin for an eye infection. Was fine for a while but then when
> I'd put it in, my eyes would turn red as beets, swell up and itch. This was
> over a holiday weekend so I just did what I had done before with the med
> allergy. Eye scrubs and allergy drops. Then the problem went away.
>
> But... Since I seem to be able to apply these same meds to my skin with no
> problems, I am thinking it is something specific to the eye ointment that is
> causing the trouble.
meds & products. See if they have anything in common or anything else you
know you're allergic to/intolerant of.
Discuss it all with a doctor who knows your entire medical
history/situation, not just one who's looking at only one piece of it.
bj
outsider
Jun 12, 2013, 9:50:02 PM6/12/13
to
On 6/12/2013 5:10 PM, MaryL wrote:
> I think you should contact your doctor and ask about this.
> The Internet is not a good source for making that decision.
> Good luck!
>
> MaryL
Generally speaking the internet is an excellent source for
> I think you should contact your doctor and ask about this.
> The Internet is not a good source for making that decision.
> Good luck!
>
> MaryL
*additional* information. Generally speaking a licensed
physician should be everyone's primary source for medical
information. And when any sources of information conflict,
it is possibly time to get a second opinion from a licensed
expert other than a PCP.
From what I've been reading in this news group, some
participants aren't equipped to make good decisions for
themselves. But then they're usually the ones who won't take
any recommendations from anyone.
Julie Bove
Jun 13, 2013, 12:43:04 AM6/13/13
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news:b1s9u5...@mid.individual.net...
Yeah. I wasn't really asking anyone here. Just thinking out loud.
Julie Bove
Jun 13, 2013, 12:45:33 AM6/13/13
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"bj" <addre...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:592588107392780024.693914...@news.giganews.com...
might have been in the Neomycin. That was something like 30 years ago and
things could have changed since then. I have no clue what I might be
allergic or intolerant to when it comes to med ingredients. Yes, some pills
or liquids contain dairy but I doubt that an eye ointment would.
Don Roberto
Jun 13, 2013, 8:28:56 AM6/13/13
to
On 6/12/2013 6:50 PM, outsider wrote:
> On 6/12/2013 5:10 PM, MaryL wrote:
>
>> I think you should contact your doctor and ask about this.
> > The Internet is not a good source for making that decision.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> MaryL
>
> Generally speaking the internet is an excellent source for
> *additional* information. Generally speaking a licensed
> physician should be everyone's primary source for medical
> information. And when any sources of information conflict,
> it is possibly time to get a second opinion from a licensed
> expert other than a PCP.
>
> From what I've been reading in this news group, some
> participants aren't equipped to make good decisions for
> themselves.
Some?
> On 6/12/2013 5:10 PM, MaryL wrote:
>
>> I think you should contact your doctor and ask about this.
> > The Internet is not a good source for making that decision.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> MaryL
>
> Generally speaking the internet is an excellent source for
> *additional* information. Generally speaking a licensed
> physician should be everyone's primary source for medical
> information. And when any sources of information conflict,
> it is possibly time to get a second opinion from a licensed
> expert other than a PCP.
>
> From what I've been reading in this news group, some
> participants aren't equipped to make good decisions for
> themselves.
But then they're usually the ones who won't take
> any recommendations from anyone.
only here to edify the unwashed. Susan and Randy come to mind.
Most folks though are here for the chitchat.
It never ceases to amaze me how some people can talk about the same old,
same old over and over again.
bj
Jun 13, 2013, 11:44:43 AM6/13/13
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Don Roberto <anothas...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> It never ceases to amaze me how some people can talk about the same old,
> same old over and over again.
>
Happens in real life too; why should it be different here?
>
> It never ceases to amaze me how some people can talk about the same old,
> same old over and over again.
>
bj
W. Baker
Jun 13, 2013, 2:35:56 PM6/13/13
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Don Roberto <anothas...@aol.com> wrote:
Some of us will repeat advice andinformation periodically when someone new
asks aobut it. they have not heard it before and probably came hear to
find out . Gets a bit repetitious, but this group, in the old days,
helped me so much that I figure I owe the newbies something as a payback.
Wendy
asks aobut it. they have not heard it before and probably came hear to
find out . Gets a bit repetitious, but this group, in the old days,
helped me so much that I figure I owe the newbies something as a payback.
Wendy
outsider
Jun 13, 2013, 5:16:37 PM6/13/13
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I promise you that's not the real world I live in.
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 14, 2013, 6:30:35 PM6/14/13
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bj drukte met precisie uit :
Are there such doctors :-?
M.
M.
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 14, 2013, 6:32:55 PM6/14/13
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Na rijp beraad schreef Julie Bove :
lol
M.
M.
Julie Bove
Jun 14, 2013, 6:49:09 PM6/14/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
message news:HoGdnazD_fkRBCbM...@giganews.com...
was bj who recommended one saying that they would address everything. He
didn't. He didn't really address much of anything. Just wanted me on a
statin and insulin. And now here I am, BG higher than ever and having
suffered twice from being on statins. Before the insulin, my BG was higher
than it should have been, sometimes. My Endo was handling it, but Dr. W.
didn't like it and wrote a note to my Endo. to put me on the statin and also
insulin. It has all been a big mess since.
That Dr. quit or was fired or...who knows. They told us he was sick. And
then we never saw him again. His replacement was an MD and although nice,
didn't seem to be doing us any favors. We went to a new clinic and it's all
just a very mixed bag there. Some Drs. seem good. Some don't. Can take a
while to get an appointment so we often wind up going to the walk in clinic.
And we never know if our condition will be worsened, or they'll do nothing,
or we'll actually get some help. They did a number on my ears. Went in
with what I did not know was a fungal infection and apparently neither did
they. They squirted water in my ears to clean them and that worsened the
infection to the point where the itching nearly drove me insane. Ears were
swollen and plugged almost shut. Could not hear a thing. Luckily after the
4th visit there, I got one of the good Drs. who sent me to the ENT who had
equipment they didn't have.
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 14, 2013, 7:10:13 PM6/14/13
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Julie Bove had uiteengezet :
Here one tells you that a GP should be the one who has and knows your
entire medical history, as a sort of focus (-point) for specialists.
He/she should be the one and only to have you before him/her as a whole
person.
I often percieve myself being seen in parts (different specialists, all
_one_ speciality).
(BTW the first "one" I used in my first sentence is some or other
specialist).
GPs dont do this anymore. :/
M.
entire medical history, as a sort of focus (-point) for specialists.
He/she should be the one and only to have you before him/her as a whole
person.
I often percieve myself being seen in parts (different specialists, all
_one_ speciality).
(BTW the first "one" I used in my first sentence is some or other
specialist).
GPs dont do this anymore. :/
M.
bj
Jun 14, 2013, 9:03:19 PM6/14/13
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
> message news:HoGdnazD_fkRBCbM...@giganews.com...
>> bj drukte met precisie uit :
>>>
> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
> message news:HoGdnazD_fkRBCbM...@giganews.com...
>> bj drukte met precisie uit :
>>>
>>> Discuss it all with a doctor who knows your entire medical
>>> history/situation, not just one who's looking at only one piece of it.
>>> bj
>>
>> Are there such doctors :-?
>> M.
>
> I've not found one. When we moved here, I went to a DO and I think that it
> was bj who recommended one saying that they would address everything.
>
I never suggested going to a DO for anything.
>>> history/situation, not just one who's looking at only one piece of it.
>>> bj
>>
>> Are there such doctors :-?
>> M.
>
> I've not found one. When we moved here, I went to a DO and I think that it
> was bj who recommended one saying that they would address everything.
>
(I've never been to a DO, DC, or "naturopath")
I go to a very good internal med doctor, not a clinic, and she doesn't take
insurance.
I'm sure such doctors do exist "out there" but it may take some effort to
find one, wait for an appointment, and it may not be covered by any
insurance. It's not something you wait to do until you're "sick" it's a
relationship you establish so that when you are sick or have a problem s/he
already has the background about "the whole you" and can do a better job
treating it than a stranger going in ad hoc.
I have a general checkup each year, which is *not* one of those 15-minute
hasty chats, it's a comprehensive review of all my conditions, problems,
general health, updates on what my other (various specialist) doctors are
doing/prescribing/etc, plans for any other activities, coping with stress,
recommendations she may have about any aspect of my health/healthcare, etc.
plus of course the usual overall poke-'n-prod, as well as general lab work.
I usually have another visit during the year for some particular problem
(e.g. illness, rash, injury) and have no trouble getting in touch with her.
During the year I keep her updated with lab reports & such from other
doctors.
Having such an established relationship (and I have had different docs
along the way, as one would retire or move, etc) and routine checkups more
or less annually is how my diabetes & cancer got found early enough on that
they were not already "difficult" to deal with from the start. Catch
problems early. Catch problems I didn't even know might be brewing.
Only you (generic you) can decide if this sort of system is one you can or
will try to establish for yourself -- whether it's worth the trouble,
research, cost-management, transportation problems, etc. and how many
roadblocks are too many to cope with or just plain not overcome-able for
you.
bj
p.s. I'm talking about the USA, I have no idea if this is doable in other
countries -- though there are certainly plenty of foreigners who come here
for all sorts of medical reasons.
Don Roberto
Jun 14, 2013, 9:45:49 PM6/14/13
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On 6/13/2013 8:44 AM, bj wrote:
> Don Roberto <anothas...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> It never ceases to amaze me how some people can talk about the same old,
>> same old over and over again.
>>
>
> Happens in real life too;
I know -
> Don Roberto <anothas...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> It never ceases to amaze me how some people can talk about the same old,
>> same old over and over again.
>>
>
> Happens in real life too;
why should it be different here?
> bj
>
Don Roberto
Jun 14, 2013, 9:49:56 PM6/14/13
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the same questions/talking about the same stuff and the same folks
answering the same questions/talking about the same stuff.
Julie Bove
Jun 14, 2013, 11:09:44 PM6/14/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
> Here one tells you that a GP should be the one who has and knows your
> entire medical history, as a sort of focus (-point) for specialists.
> He/she should be the one and only to have you before him/her as a whole
> person.
Well they do farm you out to specialists here. But you do not have to
> entire medical history, as a sort of focus (-point) for specialists.
> He/she should be the one and only to have you before him/her as a whole
> person.
consult them for that. At least not with the insurance that we have. Which
is a good thing. Quite often we've been told that we do not need a
specialist and that there is no problem. Like my diabetes that they didn't
diagnose. And Angela's pre-diabetes that they also said that she didn't
have, despite my pointing out that her labs showed otherwise! So I have
learned to take it upon myself to seek out a specialist at times. Too bad I
didn't know to do that with my ears. I figured, they were Drs. They were
treating me! ENT freaked when she heard that they put the water in my ears.
Told me never to let them do that again to me or anyone else in the family.
My GP may know my medical history but that doesn't mean they will know what
to do about it. One former GP said he would not address anything to do with
diabetes and another refused to address my thryoid.
>
> I often percieve myself being seen in parts (different specialists, all
> _one_ speciality).
Yes. And when you have more than one problem like I do, they keep telling
> I often percieve myself being seen in parts (different specialists, all
> _one_ speciality).
me... You don't have that. You have this! Each one only wants to address
their specialty. And yet I know that I have several problems, each with
symptoms that can overlap and one be worsened by the other.
>
> (BTW the first "one" I used in my first sentence is some or other
> specialist).
>
> GPs dont do this anymore. :/
I know. They did when I was a kid.
> (BTW the first "one" I used in my first sentence is some or other
> specialist).
>
> GPs dont do this anymore. :/
Julie Bove
Jun 14, 2013, 11:17:41 PM6/14/13
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"bj" <addre...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote
>> in
>> message news:HoGdnazD_fkRBCbM...@giganews.com...
>>> bj drukte met precisie uit :
>>>>
>>>> Discuss it all with a doctor who knows your entire medical
>>>> history/situation, not just one who's looking at only one piece of it.
>>>> bj
>>>
>>> Are there such doctors :-?
>>> M.
>>
>> I've not found one. When we moved here, I went to a DO and I think that
>> it
>> was bj who recommended one saying that they would address everything.
>>
>
> I never suggested going to a DO for anything.
> (I've never been to a DO, DC, or "naturopath")
> I go to a very good internal med doctor, not a clinic, and she doesn't
> take
> insurance.
I must have gotten that wrong then. Or maybe I used the wrong term? I
>> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote
>> in
>> message news:HoGdnazD_fkRBCbM...@giganews.com...
>>> bj drukte met precisie uit :
>>>>
>>>> Discuss it all with a doctor who knows your entire medical
>>>> history/situation, not just one who's looking at only one piece of it.
>>>> bj
>>>
>>> Are there such doctors :-?
>>> M.
>>
>> I've not found one. When we moved here, I went to a DO and I think that
>> it
>> was bj who recommended one saying that they would address everything.
>>
>
> I never suggested going to a DO for anything.
> (I've never been to a DO, DC, or "naturopath")
> I go to a very good internal med doctor, not a clinic, and she doesn't
> take
> insurance.
think it is Osteopath? Somebody here suggested that to me many years ago.
Don't know what a DC is.
>
> I'm sure such doctors do exist "out there" but it may take some effort to
> find one, wait for an appointment, and it may not be covered by any
> insurance. It's not something you wait to do until you're "sick" it's a
> relationship you establish so that when you are sick or have a problem
> s/he
> already has the background about "the whole you" and can do a better job
> treating it than a stranger going in ad hoc.
Well there don't seem to be any in this area.
> I'm sure such doctors do exist "out there" but it may take some effort to
> find one, wait for an appointment, and it may not be covered by any
> insurance. It's not something you wait to do until you're "sick" it's a
> relationship you establish so that when you are sick or have a problem
> s/he
> already has the background about "the whole you" and can do a better job
> treating it than a stranger going in ad hoc.
>
> I have a general checkup each year, which is *not* one of those 15-minute
> hasty chats, it's a comprehensive review of all my conditions, problems,
> general health, updates on what my other (various specialist) doctors are
> doing/prescribing/etc, plans for any other activities, coping with stress,
> recommendations she may have about any aspect of my health/healthcare,
> etc.
> plus of course the usual overall poke-'n-prod, as well as general lab
> work.
> I usually have another visit during the year for some particular problem
> (e.g. illness, rash, injury) and have no trouble getting in touch with
> her.
> During the year I keep her updated with lab reports & such from other
> doctors.
That's good. I am overdue for pretty much everything except for eye, dental
> I have a general checkup each year, which is *not* one of those 15-minute
> hasty chats, it's a comprehensive review of all my conditions, problems,
> general health, updates on what my other (various specialist) doctors are
> doing/prescribing/etc, plans for any other activities, coping with stress,
> recommendations she may have about any aspect of my health/healthcare,
> etc.
> plus of course the usual overall poke-'n-prod, as well as general lab
> work.
> I usually have another visit during the year for some particular problem
> (e.g. illness, rash, injury) and have no trouble getting in touch with
> her.
> During the year I keep her updated with lab reports & such from other
> doctors.
and Endo. stuff. Too much going on with parents and Angela right now to get
an appointment for myself and need to sort out the details of getting a ride
and taking a whole day or two off for the endoscopy/colonoscopy thing and
probably need to sort out the insulin stuff before I do so.
>
> Having such an established relationship (and I have had different docs
> along the way, as one would retire or move, etc) and routine checkups more
> or less annually is how my diabetes & cancer got found early enough on
> that
> they were not already "difficult" to deal with from the start. Catch
> problems early. Catch problems I didn't even know might be brewing.
>
> Only you (generic you) can decide if this sort of system is one you can or
> will try to establish for yourself -- whether it's worth the trouble,
> research, cost-management, transportation problems, etc. and how many
> roadblocks are too many to cope with or just plain not overcome-able for
> you.
> bj
> p.s. I'm talking about the USA, I have no idea if this is doable in other
> countries -- though there are certainly plenty of foreigners who come here
> for all sorts of medical reasons.
For me, if they don't take my insurance, it's not doable. My insurance does
> Having such an established relationship (and I have had different docs
> along the way, as one would retire or move, etc) and routine checkups more
> or less annually is how my diabetes & cancer got found early enough on
> that
> they were not already "difficult" to deal with from the start. Catch
> problems early. Catch problems I didn't even know might be brewing.
>
> Only you (generic you) can decide if this sort of system is one you can or
> will try to establish for yourself -- whether it's worth the trouble,
> research, cost-management, transportation problems, etc. and how many
> roadblocks are too many to cope with or just plain not overcome-able for
> you.
> bj
> p.s. I'm talking about the USA, I have no idea if this is doable in other
> countries -- though there are certainly plenty of foreigners who come here
> for all sorts of medical reasons.
not cover Naturopaths but the one that we see (although we haven't seen her
for a while) is very reasonable. She said she is in the business not to
make money but to help people. And most of the time she charges us nothing.
She did charge something like $30 for each of us to look at our labwork,
diet, exercise and other things for a nutritional consult. I didn't learn
much from it but I think it did teach Angela and my husband what a proper
diet should consist of. I thought this price was quite reasonable given the
amount of time she spent with each of us. She uses a computerized program
that looks for any excess or deficiencies in our diets and she gives
suggestions of ways we can modify this or take supplements to make up for
what is missing. So I don't mind paying her. But really, we can usually
just go to her for questions and things and she doesn't charge us anything.
BessieBee
Jun 16, 2013, 12:33:45 PM6/16/13
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On 6/14/2013 10:09 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> Well they do farm you out to specialists here. But you do not have to
> consult them for that. At least not with the insurance that we have. Which
> is a good thing. Quite often we've been told that we do not need a
> specialist and that there is no problem. Like my diabetes that they didn't
> diagnose. And Angela's pre-diabetes that they also said that she didn't
> have, despite my pointing out that her labs showed otherwise! So I have
> learned to take it upon myself to seek out a specialist at times. Too bad I
> didn't know to do that with my ears. I figured, they were Drs. They were
> treating me! ENT freaked when she heard that they put the water in my ears.
> Told me never to let them do that again to me or anyone else in the family.
>
> My GP may know my medical history but that doesn't mean they will know what
> to do about it. One former GP said he would not address anything to do with
> diabetes and another refused to address my thryoid.
Could that be because they felt a specialist was called for, especially
> Well they do farm you out to specialists here. But you do not have to
> consult them for that. At least not with the insurance that we have. Which
> is a good thing. Quite often we've been told that we do not need a
> specialist and that there is no problem. Like my diabetes that they didn't
> diagnose. And Angela's pre-diabetes that they also said that she didn't
> have, despite my pointing out that her labs showed otherwise! So I have
> learned to take it upon myself to seek out a specialist at times. Too bad I
> didn't know to do that with my ears. I figured, they were Drs. They were
> treating me! ENT freaked when she heard that they put the water in my ears.
> Told me never to let them do that again to me or anyone else in the family.
>
> My GP may know my medical history but that doesn't mean they will know what
> to do about it. One former GP said he would not address anything to do with
> diabetes and another refused to address my thryoid.
considering your complicated medical history? I would much rather be
referred to a specialist than be treated by someone not trained in that
area of medicine.
> Yes. And when you have more than one problem like I do, they keep telling
> me... You don't have that. You have this! Each one only wants to address
> their specialty. And yet I know that I have several problems, each with
> symptoms that can overlap and one be worsened by the other.
have multiple medical concerns (other than diabetes none are the same as
yours) and have multiple physicians to address the different things. I
also have a primary care physician who oversees everything.
All of my physicians are competent, caring individuals. If they weren't
I'd find another physician. While they don't physically work together
they are all informed about what the other doctors are doing any what my
condition is. One or more doctor has had to adjust his/her suggested
treatment because of treatment from another specialist. They work
"together" and I'm very comfortable and happy with the treatment I'm
getting.
Never lose sight of the fact that doctors are just regular human beings.
They have the same fears and joys as you do. They also make mistakes.
Hopefully their mistakes are minor ones, but they do happen. A
patient has to be aware and willing to ask questions.
--
BessieBee
"You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going,
because you might not get there." Peter “Yogi” Berra
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 16, 2013, 1:59:11 PM6/16/13
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BessieBee formuleerde op zondag :
Is that a GP?
M.
>
> All of my physicians are competent, caring individuals. If they weren't I'd
> find another physician. While they don't physically work together they are
> all informed about what the other doctors are doing any what my condition is.
> One or more doctor has had to adjust his/her suggested treatment because of
> treatment from another specialist. They work "together" and I'm very
> comfortable and happy with the treatment I'm getting.
How do they do that?
> All of my physicians are competent, caring individuals. If they weren't I'd
> find another physician. While they don't physically work together they are
> all informed about what the other doctors are doing any what my condition is.
> One or more doctor has had to adjust his/her suggested treatment because of
> treatment from another specialist. They work "together" and I'm very
> comfortable and happy with the treatment I'm getting.
M.
Colt T
Jun 16, 2013, 1:56:36 PM6/16/13
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If I got 50 Contour strips at Rite Aid it'd cost $60-$70.
Opple0påad
Jun 16, 2013, 2:47:21 PM6/16/13
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their data, or does she keep them separate and uninformed as to what
the others are saying and doing?
Ozlover
Jun 16, 2013, 2:52:57 PM6/16/13
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> > All of my physicians are competent, caring individuals. If they
> > weren't I'd find another physician. While they don't physically
> > work together they are all informed about what the other doctors are
> > doing any what my condition is. One or more doctor has had to
> > adjust his/her suggested treatment because of treatment from another
> > specialist. They work "together" and I'm very comfortable and happy
> > with the treatment I'm getting.
>
> How do they do that?
You seem to have rather negative experience with or/and views of
doctors, the health system, health insurance, etc., etc.. I don't know
why that is, but IMO and IME it's not typical and even atypical.
FWIW, a close relative recently had a complex medical situation. The
cooperation between GP (huisarts), ER (eerste hulp), 3+ specialists
(three different specialities), pharmacist, etc. was very, very good.
Yes, (s)he was pleasantly surprised, but the medical people involved
considered it normal and SOP.
> M.
> >
> > Never lose sight of the fact that doctors are just regular human
> > beings. They have the same fears and joys as you do. They also
> > make mistakes. Hopefully their mistakes are minor ones, but they
> > do happen. A patient has to be aware and willing to ask questions.
--
Frank Slootweg
Opple0påad
Jun 16, 2013, 2:57:54 PM6/16/13
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insist they share your medical records and treatment plans with each
other.
Mine do without any problems. These days it only takes a few mouse
clicks for any of them to pull up the records from all of the others
and store them locally for their review. When one prescribed a
steroid for a particular treatment I got a call from my endo's office
telling me to increase testing for a few days and what to do if my BG
shot up. I didn't even think to ask if it was steroid. But I got the
information I needed.
Julie Bove
Jun 16, 2013, 6:05:14 PM6/16/13
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"BessieBee" <Bess...@DreadfulBitch.com> wrote in message
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problems. And the reason why it is a problem not to have someone like this
is... See what I posted below.
>> Yes. And when you have more than one problem like I do, they keep
>> telling
>> me... You don't have that. You have this! Each one only wants to
>> address
>> their specialty. And yet I know that I have several problems, each with
>> symptoms that can overlap and one be worsened by the other.
>
> Honestly, I don't understand what kind of land you live in. I, too, have
> multiple medical concerns (other than diabetes none are the same as yours)
> and have multiple physicians to address the different things. I also have
> a primary care physician who oversees everything.
neuropathy! They are because of your veins!" And then have another Dr.
say, "No! Your veins are not the problem, it's your Fibromyalgia!" I get
this sort of stuff all the time. The worst is my skin problems. I have
been told that I have psoriasis, ezcema, dermatitis, dyshydrosis, bacterial
infections, cellulitis, the list goes on and on. One dermatologist treated
me for one thing then when I moved to a new state, the other Drs. freaked
and said that it wasn't that at all. It gets to the point where I don't
know what I really have or know who to believe!
>
> All of my physicians are competent, caring individuals. If they weren't
> I'd find another physician. While they don't physically work together
> they are all informed about what the other doctors are doing any what my
> condition is. One or more doctor has had to adjust his/her suggested
> treatment because of treatment from another specialist. They work
> "together" and I'm very comfortable and happy with the treatment I'm
> getting.
>
None of mine seem to work together. I did switch to the Everett Clinic and
> All of my physicians are competent, caring individuals. If they weren't
> I'd find another physician. While they don't physically work together
> they are all informed about what the other doctors are doing any what my
> condition is. One or more doctor has had to adjust his/her suggested
> treatment because of treatment from another specialist. They work
> "together" and I'm very comfortable and happy with the treatment I'm
> getting.
>
they do have specialists but... Most of their specialists are too far away
and many, when it comes to Angela will not see patients under the age of 16.
So I have to keep going elsewhere.
> Never lose sight of the fact that doctors are just regular human beings.
> They have the same fears and joys as you do. They also make mistakes.
> Hopefully their mistakes are minor ones, but they do happen. A patient
> has to be aware and willing to ask questions.
have had some tell me not to play Dr. and to let them handle it. And those
were the ones who were proven to be wrong by other Drs. that I saw. Really
hard to find any good ones. The ones that have come recommended to me
either do not take new patients or do not take my insurance.
Julie Bove
Jun 16, 2013, 6:06:00 PM6/16/13
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"Colt T" <Col...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> If I got 50 Contour strips at Rite Aid it'd cost $60-$70.
Yes but I have two kinds of insurance. I presume that you either do not
have any or yours does not cover strips?
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 16, 2013, 7:57:29 PM6/16/13
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Ozlover was zeer hard aan het denken :
Experiences differ. Try a dolichocolon, it takes very very long before
that is diagnosed (in my case 55 year). Try chronic pancreatitis, that
took 15 years before diagnosis, my internist believing that I was
anorexic, my GP beleiving that my dolichocolon was the fault of this
all. (Pain and loosing many kilograms of weight).
If you have to use the term: atypical, put the sticker on the type of
disease(s).
M.
that is diagnosed (in my case 55 year). Try chronic pancreatitis, that
took 15 years before diagnosis, my internist believing that I was
anorexic, my GP beleiving that my dolichocolon was the fault of this
all. (Pain and loosing many kilograms of weight).
If you have to use the term: atypical, put the sticker on the type of
disease(s).
M.
Ozlover
Jun 17, 2013, 1:31:59 PM6/17/13
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> > You seem to have rather negative experience with or/and views of
> > doctors, the health system, health insurance, etc., etc.. I don't know
> > why that is, but IMO and IME it's not typical and even atypical.
>
> Experiences differ. Try a dolichocolon, it takes very very long before
> that is diagnosed (in my case 55 year). Try chronic pancreatitis, that
> took 15 years before diagnosis, my internist believing that I was
> anorexic, my GP beleiving that my dolichocolon was the fault of this
> all. (Pain and loosing many kilograms of weight).
> If you have to use the term: atypical, put the sticker on the type of
> disease(s).
who can't get their head around it!
--
Frank Slootweg
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 17, 2013, 1:57:11 PM6/17/13
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Ozlover gebruikte zijn klavier om te schrijven :
Your empathy is underwhelming.
M.
M.
Ozlover
Jun 17, 2013, 4:00:24 PM6/17/13
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> >>> You seem to have rather negative experience with or/and views of
> >>> doctors, the health system, health insurance, etc., etc.. I don't know
> >>> why that is, but IMO and IME it's not typical and even atypical.
> >>
> >> Experiences differ. Try a dolichocolon, it takes very very long before
> >> that is diagnosed (in my case 55 year). Try chronic pancreatitis, that
> >> took 15 years before diagnosis, my internist believing that I was
> >> anorexic, my GP beleiving that my dolichocolon was the fault of this
> >> all. (Pain and loosing many kilograms of weight).
> >> If you have to use the term: atypical, put the sticker on the type of
> >> disease(s).
> >
> > Yeah, medicine is a piece of cake, it's just all those stupid doctors
> > who can't get their head around it!
>
> Your empathy is underwhelming.
and expectations.
--
Frank Slootweg
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 17, 2013, 6:18:43 PM6/17/13
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Ozlover stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
I dont understand a hoot of what you said.
M.
M.
Don Roberto
Jun 18, 2013, 3:06:11 AM6/18/13
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%
Jun 18, 2013, 10:09:33 AM6/18/13
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Ozlover
Jun 18, 2013, 4:03:38 PM6/18/13
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> >>>>> You seem to have rather negative experience with or/and views of
> >>>>> doctors, the health system, health insurance, etc., etc.. I don't know
> >>>>> why that is, but IMO and IME it's not typical and even atypical.
> >>>>
> >>>> Experiences differ. Try a dolichocolon, it takes very very long before
> >>>> that is diagnosed (in my case 55 year). Try chronic pancreatitis, that
> >>>> took 15 years before diagnosis, my internist believing that I was
> >>>> anorexic, my GP beleiving that my dolichocolon was the fault of this
> >>>> all. (Pain and loosing many kilograms of weight).
> >>>> If you have to use the term: atypical, put the sticker on the type of
> >>>> disease(s).
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, medicine is a piece of cake, it's just all those stupid doctors
> >>> who can't get their head around it!
> >>
> >> Your empathy is underwhelming.
> >
> > I just tried to match the realism ('realiteitszin') of your anecdotes
> > and expectations.
>
> I dont understand a hoot of what you said.
Your
> >> Your empathy is underwhelming.
plus my
> > I just tried to match the realism ('realiteitszin') of your anecdotes
> > and expectations.
The realism ('realiteitszin') of your anecdotes and expectations is
underwhelming.
--
Frank Slootweg
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 18, 2013, 7:28:23 PM6/18/13
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Op 18-6-2013, heeft Don Roberto verondersteld :
lol
Julie Bove
Jun 18, 2013, 8:23:05 PM6/18/13
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"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 19, 2013, 12:24:38 PM6/19/13
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Julie Bove heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
Neither do I :-)
M.
M.
Don Roberto
Jun 19, 2013, 9:44:02 PM6/19/13
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Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 21, 2013, 6:36:23 PM6/21/13
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Ozlover beweerde :
Did you call the DVN about your free strips while having type 2 DM?
If you only take pills and no insulin you are not entitled to more than
50 strips per 3 months _only_ if you are going to take insulin within a
short time.
Otherwise you have to pay for all of them yourself.
M.
If you only take pills and no insulin you are not entitled to more than
50 strips per 3 months _only_ if you are going to take insulin within a
short time.
Otherwise you have to pay for all of them yourself.
M.
Ozlover
Jun 22, 2013, 3:36:41 PM6/22/13
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We're talking about how doctors do (not) cooperate! What the heck has
that got to do with me calling the DVN about my free strips!?
Your usual dodging questions and creating armies of straw men and red
herrings is blatantly clear, but this one is *really* over the top.
And FYI: The last time, I got *100* [1] free strips and I'm *not*
going to take insulin anytime soon. So *there* you go!
Frank: "Is this the DVN?"
DVN: "Yes, what can I do for you?"
Frank: "On this Usenet thingy there's this Maya character who claims
that there's a bug in my GP's or/and my pharmacy's computer(s),
because they process prescriptions for free strips to non
insulin-using T2's without even giving a squeak, and she says I
should tell the DVN about it, because you say that's not
possible!"
DVN: "If you don't mind Mr. Quixote, our resident psychiatrist will
call you back in a little while?"
Frank: "But I'm not Mr Qui" <line disconnects>
[1] 200 before that, because I was going on a 3-month holiday.
--
Frank Slootweg
Maya Zuiderweg
Jun 22, 2013, 7:37:14 PM6/22/13
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Het is zò dat Ozlover formuleerde :
BS duly noted.
EOD
M.
EOD
M.
Ozlover
Jun 23, 2013, 1:18:19 PM6/23/13
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Maya Zuiderweg <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote:
> Het is z� dat Ozlover formuleerde :
Non-response duly noted, for the fourth time.
Non response duly noted. Silent admission of talking bollocks duly noted
> > We're talking about how doctors do (not) cooperate! What the heck has
> > that got to do with me calling the DVN about my free strips!?
Non response duly noted. Silent admission of talking bollocks duly noted
> > Your usual dodging questions and creating armies of straw men and red
> > herrings is blatantly clear, but this one is *really* over the top.
> >
> > And FYI: The last time, I got *100* [1] free strips and I'm *not*
> > going to take insulin anytime soon. So *there* you go!
> >
> > Frank: "Is this the DVN?"
> >
> > DVN: "Yes, what can I do for you?"
> >
> > Frank: "On this Usenet thingy there's this Maya character who claims
> > that there's a bug in my GP's or/and my pharmacy's computer(s),
> > because they process prescriptions for free strips to non
> > insulin-using T2's without even giving a squeak, and she says I
> > should tell the DVN about it, because you say that's not
> > possible!"
> >
> > DVN: "If you don't mind Mr. Quixote, our resident psychiatrist will
> > call you back in a little while?"
> >
> > Frank: "But I'm not Mr Qui" <line disconnects>
> >
> > [1] 200 before that, because I was going on a 3-month holiday.
>
> BS duly noted.
*What* is "BS"? Do you have a problem with *facts*?
> EOD
In your dreams.
--
Frank Slootweg
> Het is z� dat Ozlover formuleerde :
> > We're talking about how doctors do (not) cooperate! What the heck has
> > that got to do with me calling the DVN about my free strips!?
> > Your usual dodging questions and creating armies of straw men and red
> > herrings is blatantly clear, but this one is *really* over the top.
> >
> > And FYI: The last time, I got *100* [1] free strips and I'm *not*
> > going to take insulin anytime soon. So *there* you go!
> >
> > Frank: "Is this the DVN?"
> >
> > DVN: "Yes, what can I do for you?"
> >
> > Frank: "On this Usenet thingy there's this Maya character who claims
> > that there's a bug in my GP's or/and my pharmacy's computer(s),
> > because they process prescriptions for free strips to non
> > insulin-using T2's without even giving a squeak, and she says I
> > should tell the DVN about it, because you say that's not
> > possible!"
> >
> > DVN: "If you don't mind Mr. Quixote, our resident psychiatrist will
> > call you back in a little while?"
> >
> > Frank: "But I'm not Mr Qui" <line disconnects>
> >
> > [1] 200 before that, because I was going on a 3-month holiday.
>
> BS duly noted.
> EOD
In your dreams.
--
Frank Slootweg
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