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gu...@consolidated.net

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Jan 13, 2008, 7:03:41 PM1/13/08
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Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly.

It used hexachlorophene as an antibacterial agent.

It worked very well on the odor causing gram positive
bacteria.

However it was not effective against the problem gram
negative bacteria.

This led to some serious skin problems. I think it was banned
i the early 1060's.

I think a soap called PHISODERM is still on the market. it is a mild
soap

i am from the old days and have been involved with home
soap making. These soaps were very effective but since they were
made from scrsp hog meat and lye, they were very alkaline.

The military was pusing them durng the Korean war.

A mild soap probably serves most the best.

For laundry heat is your friend but hard on some wash items.

There is no one answer. Each person must learn from ytheir
experieces.

TV Ad's are a ooor source of advice.

Loretta Eisenberg

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Jan 13, 2008, 7:38:00 PM1/13/08
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Wow, a name from the past I remember that soup. I used it in the
sixties when I had acne. It was a very strong substances and dried out
the skin.

Loretta

Julie Bove

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Jan 13, 2008, 8:14:43 PM1/13/08
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"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybk...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:20458-478...@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net...

> Wow, a name from the past I remember that soup. I used it in the
> sixties when I had acne. It was a very strong substances and dried out
> the skin.

I used it too. I think it was prescription.


MI

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Jan 13, 2008, 9:00:31 PM1/13/08
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On 1/13/08 5:14 PM, in article 7Iyij.1331$rG.114@trndny02, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@verizon.net> wrote:

When my daughter was born that is what they used to bathe babies in the
hospital. How times change. I think it was about 4 or 5 years later they
took it off the market. When I was young and had acne my dermatologist
wouldn't allow phisohex but made me use phisoderm which was the same thing
minus hexachlorophene.

--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

Jeff

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Jan 14, 2008, 8:16:05 AM1/14/08
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gu...@consolidated.net wrote:
> Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly.

It is still made and sold. It is also used by surgeons and nurses before
during surgery.

http://products.sanofi-aventis.us/phisohex/phisohex.html

Jeff
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gu...@consolidated.net

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Jan 14, 2008, 10:02:59 AM1/14/08
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:16:05 GMT, Jeff <kidsd...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I would;not be surprised if it is still used. It was not effective
against gram negative bacteria. That was it's shortcoming.

I have several surgical cleaning solutions on hand. Most of them are
some iodine based solution.

The main advantage of PHISOHEX was it inhibited the odor producing
bacteria that made us stink. It was a variation of PHISODERM which is
a good mild cleaner.
I have no idea why is use by surgeons today.

Contamination of Hospital facilities comes up frequently.

The Grand Central Station nature of hospital facilities today is
accepted. It was not that way before antibiotics were
available.

I have had three major surgeries and I came out of the facility
two times with a bit of added problems.

A couple of weeks I was in for a couple of days of tests.
Came out with a minor.respiratory problem.

I think there is a greater problem than the overuse of
antibiotics

Uncle Enrico

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Jan 14, 2008, 9:27:57 AM1/14/08
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gu...@consolidated.net wrote:
> Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly.
>
> It used hexachlorophene as an antibacterial agent.
>
> It worked very well on the odor causing gram positive
> bacteria.
>
> However it was not effective against the problem gram
> negative bacteria.
>
> This led to some serious skin problems. I think it was banned
> i the early 1060's.


Phisohex was the soap from Hell and was aptly named with the suffix HEX.
Doctors were all recommending it--everyone was using it--it was as
popular the Hoola Hoop.

Then we found out that washing the heads of infants caused some serious
damage (brain damage maybe?). It was apparently the hexachlorophene.
Again the Hex BUT now used as a prefix.

The soap looked and smelled terrible and dried your skin to leather.

Well, I just checked. Phisohex is still out there. It's made by Sanofi
Aventis--the producer of Lantus.

Here's a list of the warnings: Note the caution on using it on infants:

WARNINGS

RINSE THOROUGHLY AFTER EACH USE. Patients should be closely monitored
and use should be immediately discontinued at the first sign of any of
the symptoms described below.

Rapid absorption of hexachlorophene may occur with resultant toxic blood
levels when preparations containing hexachlorophene are applied to skin
lesions such as ichthyosis congenita, the dermatitis of Letterer-Siwe's
syndrome, or other generalized dermatological conditions. Application to
burns has also produced neurotoxicity and death.

pHisoHex SHOULD BE DISCONTINUED PROMPTLY IF SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF
CEREBRAL IRRITABILITY OCCUR. (Oh yeah...you want to avoid cerebral
irriation for sure)

Infants, especially premature infants or those with dermatoses, are
particularly susceptible to hexachlorophene absorption. Systemic
toxicity may be manifested by signs of stimulation (irritation) of the
central nervous system, sometimes with convulsions.

--------------------------------

Glad to be steering clear of the HEX.

Uncle Enrico

MI

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Jan 14, 2008, 5:52:08 PM1/14/08
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On 1/14/08 5:16 AM, in article pgJij.8798$W73.4836@trnddc04, "Jeff"
<kidsd...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned.

Jeff

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Jan 14, 2008, 7:23:25 PM1/14/08
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MI wrote:
>
>
> On 1/14/08 5:16 AM, in article pgJij.8798$W73.4836@trnddc04, "Jeff"
> <kidsd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> gu...@consolidated.net wrote:
>>> Many years a soap called PHISOHEX was touted very highly.
>> It is still made and sold. It is also used by surgeons and nurses before
>> during surgery.
>>
>> http://products.sanofi-aventis.us/phisohex/phisohex.html
>>
>> Jeff
>> <...>
> Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned.
>

Let's see: I have found a web site showing that Phisohex is still being
sold.

How about you show that Phisohex is banned?

As one can readily find, Phisohex the FDA banned it in most soaps,
shampoos, etc., however, it is still used in hospitals to scrub up
before surgery. I have used it myself. It was essentially banned from
over the counter sales, but is used by doctors and nurses before surgery
and is available by prescription.

Have a good day.

Jeff

Harold Groot

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Jan 14, 2008, 10:31:49 PM1/14/08
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:23:25 GMT, Jeff <kidsd...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


The person saying "Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned" was
not from the USA, hence the "Not here" part. Her signature was
"Martha T2 Canada".

Regulations vary from country to country. US FDA regulations don't
apply there. They have their own.


Jeff

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Jan 15, 2008, 9:59:34 AM1/15/08
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Thanks. I completed missed that.

Interestingly, though, Phisohex is still available in Canada, probably
by prescription only:
<http://www.sanofi-aventis.ca/live/ca/en/layout.jsp?scat=526069AB-1A0D-49BB-87BB-310894DBE97E>

Oleg Lego

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Jan 15, 2008, 8:50:55 PM1/15/08
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:59:34 GMT, Jeff posted:

Yes, it's a prescription-only item.

--
Larry, T2, Saskatchewan, Canada.
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Frank t2

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Jan 28, 2008, 7:59:17 PM1/28/08
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"Loretta Eisenberg" <sassybk...@webtv.net> a écrit ...


You used SOUP on your skin ?


Frank t2

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Jan 28, 2008, 8:02:34 PM1/28/08
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"Harold Groot" <que...@infionline.net> a écrit ...

>
>
> The person saying "Not here. Both it and Phisoderm were banned" was
> not from the USA, hence the "Not here" part. Her signature was
> "Martha T2 Canada".
>
> Regulations vary from country to country. US FDA regulations don't
> apply there. They have their own.


Amazing !
Soon countries will have their own flavour of democracy.
THAT will not please Bush, Cheney et al ONE BIT.
;))


sicil...@gmail.com

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