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Re: Low carb diet superior for type 2 DM, with less CVD

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Alan S

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May 23, 2008, 6:28:36 PM5/23/08
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On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:49:15 -0400, Susan
<neve...@nomail.com> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes: stable improvement of bodyweight
>and glycemic control during 44 months follow-up.
>Jorgen V Nielsen and Eva A Joensson
>Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:14doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-14
>
>Published:22 May 2008

Thanks Susan

For those interested I found the abstract here:
http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=abstract&id=175137


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Jefferson

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May 23, 2008, 10:50:03 PM5/23/08
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Alan S wrote:

> On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:49:15 -0400, Susan
> <neve...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes: stable improvement of bodyweight
>>and glycemic control during 44 months follow-up.
>>Jorgen V Nielsen and Eva A Joensson
>>Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:14doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-14
>>
>>Published:22 May 2008
>
>
> Thanks Susan
>
> For those interested I found the abstract here:
> http://www.doaj.org/doaj?func=abstract&id=175137
>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

Citations of the 22 months follow-up, i.e., 2008 articles.
http://tinyurl.com/5cvrmn

Frank

GysdeJongh

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May 24, 2008, 1:51:55 AM5/24/08
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"Susan" <neve...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Low-carbohydrate diet in type 2 diabetes: stable improvement of bodyweight
> and glycemic control during 44 months follow-up.
> Jorgen V Nielsen and Eva A Joensson
> Nutrition & Metabolism 2008, 5:14doi:10.1186/1743-7075-5-14
>
> Published:22 May 2008

Thx Susan
Here is a free review in 2008 (note the authors):

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=18397522

Nutr Metab (Lond). 2008 Apr 8;5:9
Dietary carbohydrate restriction in type 2 diabetes mellitus and metabolic
syndrome: time for a critical appraisal.

Accurso A, Bernstein RK, Dahlqvist A, Draznin B, Feinman RD, Fine EJ, Gleed
A, Jacobs DB, Larson G, Lustig RH, Manninen AH, McFarlane SI, Morrison K,
Nielsen JV, Ravnskov U, Roth KS, Silvestre R, Sowers JR, Sundberg R, Volek
JS, Westman EC, Wood RJ, Wortman J, Vernon MC.
State University of New York Downstate Medical Center, Brooklyn, New York,
USA. rfei...@downstate.edu.

ABSTRACT: Current nutritional approaches to metabolic syndrome and type 2
diabetes generally rely on reductions in dietary fat. The success of such
approaches has been limited and therapy more generally relies on
pharmacology. The argument is made that a re-evaluation of the role of
carbohydrate restriction, the historical and intuitive approach to the
problem, may provide an alternative and possibly superior dietary strategy.
The rationale is that carbohydrate restriction improves glycemic control and
reduces insulin fluctuations which are primary targets. Experiments are
summarized showing that carbohydrate-restricted diets are at least as
effective for weight loss as low-fat diets and that substitution of fat for
carbohydrate is generally beneficial for risk of cardiovascular disease.
These beneficial effects of carbohydrate restriction do not require weight
loss. Finally, the point is reiterated that carbohydrate restriction
improves all of the features of metabolic syndrome.

PMID: 18397522

hth
Gys


GysdeJongh

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May 24, 2008, 1:59:06 AM5/24/08
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"Susan" <neve...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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The free ,provisional,text of the article has just been released :

http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/pdf/1743-7075-5-14.pdf

hth
Gys


Alan S

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May 24, 2008, 3:00:06 AM5/24/08
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Thx Gys

Nicky

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May 24, 2008, 4:55:35 AM5/24/08
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 07:59:06 +0200, "GysdeJongh" <jong...@planet.nl>
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>"Susan" <neve...@nomail.com> wrote in message

Wow!!
"The initial mean HbA1c in 2003 in the low-carbohydrate group was 8.0
ą 1.5 % (controls: 7.9
ą 1.5 %). At the end of the 6 months study period it was 6.6 ą 1.0 %
(controls: 7.3 ą 1.8 %),
and after 12 months it was 7.0 ą 1.3 %. It has since remained stable
and is 6.8 ą 1.3 % after
44 months.
<snip>
In the low-carbohydrate group bodyweight and HbA1c is still
significantly lower than before
start. The bodyweight of 7 patients (43 %) is still 10 % below the
initial weight, the original
goal of the study. The success rate almost 4 years later is thus 43 %
as compared to zero in
the control group. "

One to hit the doctor with, next time I see him!

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Trinkwasser

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May 24, 2008, 2:00:41 PM5/24/08
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 09:55:35 +0100, Nicky <ukc802...@btconnect.com>
wrote:

Point him to the website

http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com

some excellent stuff on there

Nicky

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May 24, 2008, 5:31:25 PM5/24/08
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 19:00:41 +0100, Trinkwasser
<sp...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 24 May 2008 09:55:35 +0100, Nicky <ukc802...@btconnect.com>
>wrote:

>>One to hit the doctor with, next time I see him!
>
>Point him to the website
>
>http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com
>
>some excellent stuff on there

Nah - he thinks the internet is full of misinformation, far too
dangerous to go there; but he's clearly read paper stuff I've dropped
on his desk before.

Trinkwasser

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May 26, 2008, 1:58:36 PM5/26/08
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 22:31:25 +0100, Nicky <ukc802...@btconnect.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 24 May 2008 19:00:41 +0100, Trinkwasser
><sp...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 24 May 2008 09:55:35 +0100, Nicky <ukc802...@btconnect.com>
>>wrote:
>>>One to hit the doctor with, next time I see him!
>>
>>Point him to the website
>>
>>http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com
>>
>>some excellent stuff on there
>
>Nah - he thinks the internet is full of misinformation, far too
>dangerous to go there; but he's clearly read paper stuff I've dropped
>on his desk before.

So print it out, make it look Official

Wes Groleau

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May 26, 2008, 5:47:18 PM5/26/08
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Nicky wrote:
> Nah - he thinks the internet is full of misinformation, far too
> dangerous to go there; but he's clearly read paper stuff I've dropped
> on his desk before.

I bet the PDF version doesn't look like it came from the internet. :-)

--
Wes Groleau

Change is inevitable.
Liberals need to learn that "inevitable" is not a synonym for "good."
Conservatives should learn that "inevitable" is not a synonym for "bad."
-- WWG

Nicky

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May 27, 2008, 8:58:01 AM5/27/08
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 21:47:18 GMT, Wes Groleau
<grolea...@freeshell.org> wrote:

>Nicky wrote:
>> Nah - he thinks the internet is full of misinformation, far too
>> dangerous to go there; but he's clearly read paper stuff I've dropped
>> on his desk before.
>
>I bet the PDF version doesn't look like it came from the internet. :-)

Good point! :D

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