This looks as if it's the 1st to go on the market.
There was a UK firm working along these lines but never heard any more about
them.
Sue Type1
I'm a pumper, have for 2.5yrs now. I find nothing cumbersome
at all. I find it 10x more convient then MDI as a matter of fact.
This products page makes it sound like pumping is a death
sentence at the very least. It has no prices listed.. I'd like to
see how much the sets are and how many are packaged in a
batch..
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RK, T1 // Animas IR1250
"I have better things to do then to be depressed.." dannik
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
Be sure to read Grandpa Chucks sigline and offer prayers for our
young children over fighting for a bogus war.. modern day VietNam.
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"s.miles5" <s.mi...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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i did not look very closely, Reisa. My idea is: if i spend money on
something, the last thing i want to do is throw it away. As for MDI, it
worked for me until Oct 2004, then slowly and surely went down the loo.
Besides, having to carry about them pens, syringes etc -- ouch, no, just
tape the pump to a hairy thigh (well, a shaved thigh LOL) and stick the
remote control in a pocket.
Heigh-ho, heigh-ho, it's off we go, singing with the pump on!
Guess who feels like a kid with a box of candy, then. This little lad,
that's who.
LOL (meaning Lots Of Love) to one and all
Alan H
The UK firm is still working on it see here though dont know what the
lastest news is.
http://www.nesta.org.uk/ourawardees/profiles/4249/print.htm
Also I cant see the point in having something throw away. Sasha, my 11 year
old has a pump and when asked several times if she minded being attached to
something all the time, couldn't really see what the consultant and
psychologist were getting at (we had to see a psychologist before we had the
pump). Sasha's reply is that she didn't see this as a problem and that she
was already "attached to her diabetes anyway"! and that she thinks far less
about diabetes now than she did before the pump came along.
Modern pumps are about the size of a mobile phone and I don't know many
people who haven't got one and I don't hear people complaining about
carrying them around. I think that we throw far too many things away these
days.
Are you thinking along the lines of getting a pump Sue?
Jackie Mum of Sasha pumping with a Medtronic 712
Hi Jackie No I can't have a pump because I use bovine insulin so I have been
told by those in the know.
I have no intention of ever using GM insulins so not a cats chance in hell
of having a pump.
I posted the link as a topic of conversation more than anything there is
more info if a google search is done re costs etc,
Sue
>
You seem to be looking at it slightly negatively. I would say it's a
welcome move on from the need to use current infusion sets and the
associated tubing. It could well be of major benefit to those who have
trouble managing the traditional pump.
Just in the way prefilled pen devices can be beneficial to some, it
could open up the prospect of successful pumping to those who have
failed due to purely physical issues. I'm thinking along the lines of
people with mental problems or physical issues. Any new device which can
make pumping simpler has to be welcomed. Looking at it again, I can see
benefits for the partially sighted and frequent business traveller as
well.
As you rightly say, price could be critical for the rest.
Ratty
Alan H
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Do, or do not. There is no try.
Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back
no i didn't get that far.. i'm still only up to 30mins sitting up.
>
> You seem to be looking at it slightly negatively. I would say it's a
> welcome move on from the need to use current infusion sets and the
> associated tubing. It could well be of major benefit to those who have
> trouble managing the traditional pump.
I've really not seen nor heard of anyone having trouble managing a pump.
They're extremely simple to use.
>
> Just in the way prefilled pen devices can be beneficial to some, it
> could open up the prospect of successful pumping to those who have
> failed due to purely physical issues. I'm thinking along the lines of
> people with mental problems or physical issues. Any new device which can
> make pumping simpler has to be welcomed. Looking at it again, I can see
> benefits for the partially sighted and frequent business traveller as
> well.
I've emailed them asking of several specs they've failed to list on their
site.
For me, to have a small piece of tape attached to me and disconnect from the
pump when I want to shower or ahem.. you know.. I'd much rather do that then
have something totally attached to my body for 24/7 for 3 days at a time.
To me
thats far far worse then it is now, which I think pumpers will think so as
well, those
who don't pump such as yourself.. find it better, whereas pumpers can see
the ease
of a quick disconnect and away we can go swim for a couple hours, roll in
the hay
or a shower or the hot tub..
frequent business traveller still would have to carry supplies... and pumps
aren't made
for folks with limited sight. They're great for folks with hearing loss,
because they vibrate.
but they dont talk, and the screens are too small to see..
>
> As you rightly say, price could be critical for the rest.
>
> Ratty
I've also asked them what their cost is for the pump and for supplies.. If i
get a reply
i'll post it .
Hi Alan can you tell me where to find this info about pumping using neural?
I asked my endo who said point blank no as the pumps were not geared for
natural insulin's I had no response what so ever from the pump companies.
According to the way my endo interpreted the NICE recomendations I can't
have a pump because I won't won't use the wonder insulin Lantoss.
My endo also said he had no experience of using the natural insulins and his
tone implied he was not going to find out either. So end of story.
Sue type 1
>
>
Porcine, as i think you probably know, differs from synthetic in only one
amino acid, but is folded correctly, whereas synthetic is folded
incorrectly. No artifically made protein is folded correctly, but for the
huge majority of ppl and dabetics that is no problem at all. We are just the
few.
The biggest problem with the pump (remember i am quoting others experience,
and the literature) appears to be needing to disconnect for --- well, you
know what for.
If you feel like it, try google groups, go to asd and also to mhd, and look
for willbill's posts.
Your endo is wrong again, because pump therapy started in 1974 when there
simply was NO such thing as synthetic insulin. If your endo was mine, i
would first boot him out of my team: second report him to the BMA for
telling me a deliberate lie. Thats just me, you are probably a much nicer
person than i am.
i apologise for shouting 'rate', but lots of people misunderstand a very
important difference. You are certainly not that stupid, but i can think of
one - exactly one - who 'is' that stupid. Not on usenet, though, in real
life. And who knows who is lurking?
Last comment for the moment, the sole reason i am changing is because in the
last 9 months my control has gone utterly out of control. My doc says it's
because of autonomic neuropathy, which he says i brought on myself by years
of idocy. i like him, he tells it straight down the line.
Tell me Al, did you have a childhood dream to emulate a bionic man :-)
i 'am' a bionic man, well with a bionic leg since 1974. unfortunately the
pump is not yet ultimate, a bg sensor and therefore a closed loop system
would be nearer perfection. i wouldn't give odds on it ever happening
though.
Alan H
I hope you do well on the pump though, i think you have the sort of
brain that would find something like that interested anyway, fun to
learn and play with. Hope to see your numbers back inline!
Thanks for the post re: basal RATE. I wasn't aware of the crucial
difference!!! Thankfully i now am. It had been confusing me a bit!
Patrick.
I have not read the blurb for a long time but believe it said where
appropriate,as far as I am concerned lantoss is not appropriate because of
all the adverse warning about it including the risk of cancer I have heard
more bad reports about lantoss than any other insulin.
Told the endo that committing suicide was against my religion, went down
like a ton of bricks :)
Sue
Actually there are, and i am being serious here, which makes a change, and
so say all of us, well, i said it, anways, being serious, there are
techniques to deal with mild pain, relaxation therapy, Zen meditation, etc.
Tatts are mild pain, in some cases people have much more serious pain, and
then those techniques don't work.
> I hope you do well on the pump though, i think you have the sort of brain
> that would find something like that interested anyway, fun to learn and
> play with. Hope to see your numbers back inline!
>
> Thanks for the post re: basal RATE. I wasn't aware of the crucial
> difference!!! Thankfully i now am. It had been confusing me a bit!
>
You are welcome to my little tidbits of info, and i am honoured by your
thanks.
Which reminds me of a joke about honour -- on second thoughts we don't know
who is lurking, so i better not.
> Patrick.
If you cannot use pork or synthetic, then there is not much point in
considering the pump. i am grateful for the heads-up though.
i am also considering the points made by Ratty - well thought out as usual.
Alan
T1 on BeefL and humalog when needed
I am looking at it from a purely engineering point of view, and making a
non-prejudicial assessment. As you remark, I do not use a pump.
The device lends itself to adaptation easily where a second tier of
handset could be manufactured with minimum retooling cost, making it
accessible for partially sighted users. Of which there may well be a
significant number.
People who have failed at traditional insulin therapies often get loss
of vision due to retinopathy, and that is precisely the subset of
diabetics who could benefit from this modular approach. With traditional
pumps the works are all combined onto the one detachable unit, whereas
with this new device the management functions are devolved to a separate
unit. That means much more flexibility in adapting the units to specific
needs, or using it with a magnifying device. I've seen how my blind
friend uses his cellphone with a magnifying glass (he has very limited
vision in one eye) and the handset for this device would be much more
usable to him than that on a current pump. Learning disabilities is
another possible niche.
Not everyone is a happy camper diabetic with everything intact and the
confidence to use the current devices. This new one has many intriguing
niche possibilities.
R
Jackie mum of Sasha
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Yuk : ( What do you talk about - gardening?
Nicky.
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A1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/76/72Kg
Alan
Sue
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If you decide you would like to try a pump, email me and i will try to help,
because the local PCTs are ignoring the government advice about 'patient's
right to choose'. i will help if i can, coz someone helped me, and i always
believed -- and still do -- in the old revivalist song
If you've had a kindness shown, pass it on.
Alan
Alan H