HASTENING THE SWITCH BETWEEN PROZAC AND PARNATE
Mike
i had nothing but good experiences with parnate the 20 or so years i
took it off and on. not one cheese reaction. gives you an energy
boost when you take it in the morning. no sedation or sweating like
with elavil, paxil, etc. talk about a terrific drug. i don't see why
p-docs have such unreasonable angst with it and make you feel like a
felon or wanting to take it.
i am on generic prozac now, it does jack sh*t to elevate my mood. i
am sick of feeling miserable unnecessarily and want to switch back to
parnate. i know it takes 5 weeks to make the switch safely according
to the PDR, etc. i know the consequences of making the switch too
fast can be very serious. but at the same time, i am suffering, and i
want to find out if there is anything that can be done to hasten the
switch between the two classes of medicine. five weeks is a VERY long
time to cross over. i read some people have nifedipine handy in case
of a hypertensive crisis. would this be helpful? what about a brief
inpatient hospitalization where you can be monitored closely if all
else fails and the situation gets critical?
thanks a lot for your input.
Larry Hoover
issue to avoid, but Prozac is unique in its long half-life. That's why it's
5 weeks for Prozac. Standard methodology is five half-lives for washout, and
Prozac's half-life can be up to a week. There's no way to know the exact
moment when the combination might not be lethal, and thus the abundance of
caution in forcing the long wash-out period. You wouldn't necessarily have
to be exposed to a pressor amine such as tyramine to provoke the potentially
fatal hypertensive crisis, so nifedipine might itself prove insufficient to
save you. Getting a doctor to do as you ask sounds like a very tall order.
Since Prozac is doing nothing for you, I'd stop taking it right away, and
get that five week clock ticking. If your mood during that period puts you
at risk, then you may consider inpatient monitoring for that. Perhaps, at 3
or 4 weeks, you might get started on ramping up the dose of parnate.
Sorry, Mike. I wish I had something better to offer you.
Lar
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Nom dePlume
doing *something* for you, but not enough. In that case, you might
transition to a different SSRI with a shorter half life than Prozac (which
is all of them), and later make a quicker transition from the new SSRI to
Parnate.
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Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Find my book, Medicines for Mental health, and free drug information, at
www.MentalMeds.org
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Mike
On Dec 9, 3:46 pm, "Larry Hoover" <larryhoo...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The problem is two-fold. An SSRI/MAOI combination is obviously the main
> issue to avoid, but Prozac is unique in its long half-life. That's why it's
> 5 weeks for Prozac. Standard methodology is five half-lives for washout, and
> Prozac's half-life can be up to a week. There's no way to know the exact
> moment when the combination might not be lethal, and thus the abundance of
> caution in forcing the long wash-out period. You wouldn't necessarily have
> to be exposed to a pressor amine such as tyramine to provoke the potentially
> fatal hypertensive crisis, so nifedipine might itself prove insufficient to
> save you. Getting a doctor to do as you ask sounds like a very tall order.
>
> Since Prozac is doing nothing for you, I'd stop taking it right away, and
> get that five week clock ticking. If your mood during that period puts you
> at risk, then you may consider inpatient monitoring for that. Perhaps, at 3
> or 4 weeks, you might get started on ramping up the dose ofparnate.
>
> Sorry, Mike. I wish I had something better to offer you.
>
> Lar
>
> "Mike" <fourgal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4f0666d2-7ed4-41a6...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > hello,
>
> > i had nothing but good experiences withparnatethe 20 or so years i
Mike
On Dec 10, 12:55 am, "Nom dePlume" <m...@mentalmeds.org> wrote:
> The only thing I might add to what Larry says would apply if Prozac were
> doing *something* for you, but not enough. In that case, you might
> transition to a different SSRI with a shorter half life than Prozac (which
> is all of them), and later make a quicker transition from the new SSRI toParnate.
>
> --
> Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
> Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
>
> Find my book, Medicines for Mental health, and free drug information, atwww.MentalMeds.org
>
> ====="Larry Hoover" <larryhoo...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:NJCdnWgk0I5Lkb3W...@nexicom.net...
>
> > The problem is two-fold. An SSRI/MAOI combination is obviously the main
> > issue to avoid, but Prozac is unique in its long half-life. That's why
> > it's 5 weeks for Prozac. Standard methodology is five half-lives for
> > washout, and Prozac's half-life can be up to a week. There's no way to
> > know the exact moment when the combination might not be lethal, and thus
> > the abundance of caution in forcing the long wash-out period. You wouldn't
> > necessarily have to be exposed to a pressor amine such as tyramine to
> > provoke the potentially fatal hypertensive crisis, so nifedipine might
> > itself prove insufficient to save you. Getting a doctor to do as you ask
> > sounds like a very tall order.
>
> > Since Prozac is doing nothing for you, I'd stop taking it right away, and
> > get that five week clock ticking. If your mood during that period puts you
> > at risk, then you may consider inpatient monitoring for that. Perhaps, at
> > 3 or 4 weeks, you might get started on ramping up the dose ofparnate.
>
> > Sorry, Mike. I wish I had something better to offer you.
>
> > Lar
>
> > "Mike" <fourgal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:4f0666d2-7ed4-41a6...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> >> hello,
>
> >> i had nothing but good experiences withparnatethe 20 or so years i
Linda
> hello,
>
> i had nothing but good experiences with parnate the 20 or so years i
> took it off and on. not one cheese reaction. gives you an energy
> boost when you take it in the morning. no sedation or sweating like
> with elavil, paxil, etc. talk about a terrific drug. i don't see why
> p-docs have such unreasonable angst with it and make you feel like a
> felon or wanting to take it.
Anyone can obtain a prescription for dopamine enhancers and/or
dopamine agonists.
Having megabucks as Carrie Sommers' family did is the easiest way to
obtain a precription for dopamine enhancers and/or dopamine agonists.
Having an Uncle who is the Director of the Biotechnology Center of
North Carolina, as Eric Riddick's Uncle was, is another surefire
way of obtaining a prescription for a dopamine enhancer and/or
dopamine agonist.
Cybersquatting your criminally insane arse in Alternative discussion
forums like ASDM and coopting alternative discussion by hyping
Rockefeller and Son's petro-chemicals as "treatments" like Elizabeth
Shapere, Larry Hoover, Kevin Thompson and lots of other thugs have
done is yet another surefire way of earning 'scripts for as many
dopamine enhancers and dopamine agonists as you want.
If you are a sexual deviant you don't have to settle for dopamine
enhancers or dopamine agonists, because, sexual deviants can earn
themselves 'scripts for dopamine stimulants by demoralizing society at
large by producing Smut as Joseph M. Parsons did, or, authoring
Pedarestic SMBD FAQ's as John M. Palmer did, or, molesting little
boys as Mark D. Morin did.
Also, I'm 99.99% certain that prescription for dopamine enhancers,
dopamine agonists, and dopamine stimulants are standard issue to each
and every rogue FBI Agent, rogue JSOF agent, rogue CIA agent, rogue
psychologist, rogue psychiatrist, rogue linguist, rogue
interviewer, rogue physician, rogue nurse, and grunt employed in
the US Torture Industry.
There's no such thing as a free lunch where "feel good" drugs are
concerned.
It's Quid Quo Pro.
All you have to do is decide what sort of crimes you are willing to
perpetrate in exchange for a quasi legal supply of the dope
enhancers, agonists or stimulants of your choice, then, perpetrate
those crimes and a supply of dopamine enhancers, agonists and
stimulants will be yours.
Bent Attorney Esq.
One of these days(assuming that time is infinite)you're going to make
sense. Please realize that monkeys banging on a typewriter will
eventually bang out Titus Andronicus. Tamora is a fucked up wench,
and so are you. I knew a Tamora in Vancouver. We got along great(for
a while). One day she asked me for $10 so she could get a bag of
junk. I said no. That was it. The relationship was over.
She hated me forever. Oh boo hoo. Oh boo hoo hoo.
Linda
wrote:
So says one of the hundreds of millions of suckers munching down death
inducing TCA's and/or SSRI's and/or Dopamine Blockers instead of life
enhancing MAOI's, Stimulants or Dopamine Agonists.
Linda
>
Mea Culpa.
I should have said....
So says one of the hundreds of millions of suckers munching down death
inducing TCA's, and/or SSRI's, and/or, dopamine blockers, instead
of quality of life enhancing dopamine enhancers (MAOI's), dopamine
stimulants, and/or, dopamine agonists.