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Pepper

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Jun 11, 2003, 8:50:26 PM6/11/03
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A word on the most dangerous drug I have yet to fully understand

http://unitedstates.datastar.net/drugs.htm

OxyContin

It is one of the more definitive tales from the OxyContin underground:

After finding relief from her excruciating pain, an elderly woman in the end
stages of cancer returns home from the hospital . . . where she begins to
suffer almost immediately.

She screams to her doctor that the pain pills he's prescribed don't work.
Over the phone, the doctor asks his patient to read the label on the bottle.
It is exactly what he's ordered - OxyContin tablets at the maximum strength
of 80 milligrams.

``I'm telling you they're not working!'' the woman insists.

The doctor has the patient return to the office, with her pills. When she
empties the bottle on the desk, the doctor sees the pain pills have been
replaced with regular aspirin.

The OxyContin thief who ripped off this dying woman and left her to suffer .
. . was her own daughter.

Pharmacists say such tales have become commonplace. ``To a cancer patient in
agony, addiction is a moot point.'' ``OxyContin is very good at blunting
pain.

``But if you're someone looking to get high,'' pharmacist add, ``then, yes,
OxyContin most certainly has the power to have you stealing from your
family, friends, or just about anyone else. It is the most insidious and the
most dangerous drug I have ever seen around.''

A thief broke into a pharmacy and cleaned out the entire inventory of 1,300
OxyContin pills, worth $80 each on the street. ``People who rob banks don't
walk away with that much money.'' In the aftermath of the robbery, What I
have discovered scares me because I'm seeing kids dropping dead like "flies"
from overdoses.

Barely 20 percent of the customers who presented a prescription for the
synthetic opiate were afflicted with cancer. Among the rest was a heavy
presence of young white males seeking relief from a veritable outbreak of
``back pain.''

``In terms of abuse,'' I've never seen anything remotely close to what's
happening now with OxyContin. In the space of the last two years, this drug
has gone from the 35th prescribed drug, according to the Medicaid charts, to
the 10th. And I know there just isn't that many people withering in the kind
of pain OxyContin was designed to relieve.

For Purdue Pharma, the company that makes OxyContin, these are golden days.
Whether the pills are prescribed, or stolen, demand is demand and supply is
supply. Ultimately, the bottom line prospers, whether it's over the counter,
or underground.

For the record, in most states, it's insisted that stores must carry a
supply of OxyContin. But in reality, after an explosion of drug store
holdups, is more like don't ask, don't tell. When a store stops carrying it,
you don't hear any great hue and cry out there. It's because there's already
a kind of network in place. People know where they can get it and where they
can't. So, they quickly make other arrangements. It's more than amazing.
It's frightening.''

As more stores quietly choose to drop the drug from its shelves, I envision
a rapidly approaching future of even more bold and brazen attempts to seize
the drug. Our burglary and theft rate has risen dramatically since oxcycotin
has become a drug of choice among people from every age group imaginable.

The street supply is gradually starting to dry up, and already you're seeing
people become even more desperate.''

For the ``O.C.'' frenzy to be brought under some control, I believe several
things must happen.


The feds have to clear the way for production of the so-called ``smart
pill,'' one that will be immune to the tampering and modifications of street
addicts. We can't afford to wait three years for such a pill.
When your talking about a drug that can make a DYING person with cancer live
a pain free day, we're talking STRONG medicine. Sure some druggies who have
lived everyday, for years, using SOMETHING it's not as lethal for them. But,
you take a young kid who has, MAYBE, used pot ONCE in their life trying
something like OxyContin you're talking, DEAD!

OxyContin Tablets are to be taken whole. Taking broken, chewed or crushed
tablets could lead to the rapid release and absorption of a potentially
toxic dose of oxycodone. I recently spoke with a young female who admitted
she had graduated to injecting oxycotin. On a personal note, I fully expect
to see her "dead" very soon, and she is only 23 years old. I cried that day.


Doctors will have to exercise a much higher degree of scrutiny in writing
scripts for OxyContin, not to mention that doctors are prescribing this
medication under "false" pretenses from sources of my own while working the
streets and talking with "oxcy" addicts.


Major health insurers and HMOs will finally have to get real about financing
longer stays in detox and rehab centers. Paying for three to seven days is
useless. Experts say it takes at least 90 days for the brain to heal from
OxyContin abuse - for the feeling of sobriety to overcome the pull of
addiction. I'm not sure about this statement.


In the meantime, talk with your kids about this and how the risks far
outweigh the one night stand of "trying to be cool".

Respectfully,
Lt. Chet Bowen

Katz Heitmann

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Jun 12, 2003, 3:32:58 AM6/12/03
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Pepper wrote:

> A word on the most dangerous drug I have yet to fully understand
>
> http://unitedstates.datastar.net/drugs.htm
>
> OxyContin
>
> It is one of the more definitive tales from the OxyContin underground:
>
> After finding relief from her excruciating pain, an elderly woman in the end
> stages of cancer returns home from the hospital . . . where she begins to
> suffer almost immediately.
>
> She screams to her doctor that the pain pills he's prescribed don't work.
> Over the phone, the doctor asks his patient to read the label on the bottle.
> It is exactly what he's ordered - OxyContin tablets at the maximum strength
> of 80 milligrams.
>
> ``I'm telling you they're not working!'' the woman insists.
>
> The doctor has the patient return to the office, with her pills. When she
> empties the bottle on the desk, the doctor sees the pain pills have been
> replaced with regular aspirin.
>
> The OxyContin thief who ripped off this dying woman and left her to suffer .
> . . was her own daughter.
>

Well I'd bring home the pills after switching them for cynide or lacing
them with rat poision then keep the real pills somewhere else. That way
she rips me off again and then dies. I'd leave the tained pills around
and let the thiefs get them they take them and keel over. That's why I
take the pills out of the med bottle put them in a regular asperin
bottle and put the asperin in the oxycontin or if you want to kill off
any thief then swap them for pills tainted with cynide. Or simply throw
her out but then someone might break in and try again.

Cides all she's gotta do is toss out that useless drug addict daughter
and then get herself another prescription. Just because she got it
swiped once doesn't mean she'll never get it.

Pretty clever about swapping the drug before it enters the house. Maybe
asperin dunked in ipacac. These things happen. People steal stuff
because they are little shits sometimes. So you figure that out and
flip it on them. If you figure that she is going to sell the drugs to
get money for something then you find what the pills look like and get
an OTC drug that looks like that swap the drugs. It seems asperin looks
like the meds she's taking. If you can get the number of the buyer you
can tell him that she's going to try to sell him something that looks
like it but isn't and that she's carrying but doesn't look it. If she
doesn't have a weapon then she won't know and with any luck she'll get
shot.


> Pharmacists say such tales have become commonplace. ``To a cancer patient in
> agony, addiction is a moot point.'' ``OxyContin is very good at blunting
> pain.
>
> ``But if you're someone looking to get high,'' pharmacist add, ``then, yes,
> OxyContin most certainly has the power to have you stealing from your
> family, friends, or just about anyone else. It is the most insidious and the
> most dangerous drug I have ever seen around.''
>
> A thief broke into a pharmacy and cleaned out the entire inventory of 1,300
> OxyContin pills, worth $80 each on the street. ``People who rob banks don't
> walk away with that much money.'' In the aftermath of the robbery, What I
> have discovered scares me because I'm seeing kids dropping dead like "flies"
> from overdoses.
>
> Barely 20 percent of the customers who presented a prescription for the
> synthetic opiate were afflicted with cancer. Among the rest was a heavy
> presence of young white males seeking relief from a veritable outbreak of
> ``back pain.''
>

I'd say just give these addicts as much of the drug as they want. Only
make a bad batch of it. It wipes the addicts out pretty much or at
least thins the population. They overdose.


Katz Heitmann

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Jun 12, 2003, 3:43:15 AM6/12/03
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HoPpeR wrote:

> Just curious, why did you feel compelled to post this? I agree that
> oxycontin is being abused. I used to take it back when it first
> started getting in the news and this was the start of a long hard road
> for me. Let me show you some of the rebound effect such as that
> pointed out in the article about the grandmother with cancer.
>
> I have been suffering from an illness which caused sever pain.
> Oxycontin is the most effective pain med I have ever been on and with
> the abuse came an unwillingness for doctors to prescribe it,
> particularly when they started seeing some doctors carted off to jail.
> I suspect that at least some if not most of the docs around here that
> have been cited are not guilty of anything but having sympathy towards
> people in real pain. I've seen a few country docs that know pain first
> had and they are the ones willing to prescribe, and they are the ones
> getting put in jail. At least that is true around here. It would be
> interesting to see what the average age of docs that are charged with
> improper prescribing pain meds. Should the doctors now assume that
> anyone that comes to them complaining of sever pain is actually a drug
> addict or pusher? This is exactly what is happening now. It's
> difficult for anyone, even doctors to understand that someone in pain
> does not get high. They do not get addicted to a narcotic, they get
> addicted to being free of pain. The sad fact is that both conditions,
> abuse or proper use look a lot alike. I've abused pain meds in the far
> past to get high, just as I have experimented with other drugs.
> Thankfully I survived. Now I am in pain and I do know the difference
> between abuse and use. I haven't been able to get oxycontin for three
> years now. The meds I am taking are a poor second but I guess its ok
> for me to be in pain daily, contemplating putting a bullet in my head
> to save some kids that want to get high. I have hope that I have found
> the illness that is causing my pain and I will not need pain meds
> anymore. It's a pretty big slap in my face to have to endure this hell
> and be treated like a drug addict.
I'd say get rid of the silly restrictions turn a blind eye towards abuse
of drugs. Actually give the addicts their drug of choice to keep them
from harming the rest of us to take money to buy drugs. If someone is
stupid enough to get addicted in the first place then that isn't my
problem. Give them their stupid drugs take their license to drive so
they don't kill the rest of us while driving around. I'd say give the
addicts enough drugs to kill them per day by government order. They can
do that or go for drug treatment. Then treat everyone else who says
their in real pain like they really are and just tell the authorities to
stay out. Who gives a crap about stupid children who want to get high.
If they want to let them it's not my problem. Maybe they'll do
something stupid get themselves killed and there will be fewer of them.
>
> Maybe there is a better way here? Just a thought.
>
> HoP
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 00:50:26 GMT, "Pepper" <Pep...@Nospam.com>
> informed me of this:


>
> <A word on the most dangerous drug I have yet to fully understand
> <
> <http://unitedstates.datastar.net/drugs.htm
>
>

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> and/or advice that may be of absolutely no use to
> the reader.
>
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>

release

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Jun 12, 2003, 6:56:42 AM6/12/03
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"Katz Heitmann" <kat...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Oh yeah, everyone knows how freely available cyanide is these days!


Mark Probert

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Jun 12, 2003, 8:35:21 AM6/12/03
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Thnaks for pointing out one of the side effects of the maniacal
anti-real medicines dupes.

> Maybe there is a better way here? Just a thought.
>
> HoP
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 00:50:26 GMT, "Pepper" <Pep...@Nospam.com>
> informed me of this:
>

> <A word on the most dangerous drug I have yet to fully understand
> <
> <http://unitedstates.datastar.net/drugs.htm
>
>

Mark Probert

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Jun 12, 2003, 8:36:10 AM6/12/03
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you can buy it on the net. just search for Vitamin B-17 or laetrile.

Jodi

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Jun 12, 2003, 10:46:36 AM6/12/03
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"Katz Heitmann" <kat...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>Give them their stupid drugs take their license to drive so
> they don't kill the rest of us while driving around.

Taking someones license rarely stops them from driving around. You
have to be a socially responsible person for that to work. It is
pretty ironic how many people going to court for driving on a suspended
license, actually drive themselves to court.

>I'd say give the
> addicts enough drugs to kill them per day by government order.

Wow, you are one cold-hearted person.

> Who gives a crap about stupid children who want to get high.

I do


LindyJ2936

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Jun 14, 2003, 8:56:15 AM6/14/03
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>Oh yeah, everyone knows how freely available cyanide is these days!>>

Up in Maine a nice church-going man killed a few of his fellow parishioners
with cyanide laced coffee recently. Seems he wasnt happy with the impending
merge with his church and another.


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