Uncle Sam Now America's No. 1 Drug Pusher
Every day some 6 million children – some as young as 2 or 3 – are
now given Ritalin and other stimulants at the urging of school
officials and psychiatrists. The reason: They are diagnosed with
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), a recently
discovered mental "disease" whose symptoms include short
attention span, impulsive behavior, and difficulty sitting still.
Many more boys than girls are diagnosed with ADHD. In some
schools – including two school districts near Virginia Beach,
Virginia – as many as 20 percent of the boys are now given
Ritalin daily.
The strongest advocates of drugging children are the Department
of Education, educational bureaucrats and psychiatrists. The U.S.
consumes over 90 percent of Ritalin produced in the world. What
bureaucrats don't tell parents, however, is that Ritalin has
effects similar to amphetamines and is listed by the Drug
Enforcement Agency as a Schedule II controlled substance.
Despite these problems, bureaucrats often insist that "ADHD
children" be given Ritalin and other drugs. Parents who
resist are increasingly being threatened with charges of child
abuse and threats of having their children taken away from them.
For instance:
* In Albany, New York, Michael and Jill Carroll were charged with
child abuse when they told school officials they wanted to take
their 7-year-old son, Kyle, off Ritalin. They are now on a
statewide list of child abusers.
* In California, Dr. Robert Sinaiko had his medical license
revoked and was fined $99,000 by an administrative law judge for
taking a boy off Ritalin and prescribing alternative treatment.
* In Millbrook, New York, officials in the Millbrook school
district called police and child protective services when
Patricia Weathers took her 9-year-old son, Michael, off Ritalin
and other government-prescribed drugs.
Dr. Peter Breggin, founder of the Center for the Study of
Psychiatry, raises many chilling questions about the consequences
of drugging millions of children, in his recent book, "Talking
Back to Ritalin." Breggin states:
* The number of children being drugged has increased sevenfold in
the last few years.
* Ritalin and amphetamines (like crystal meth and other illegal
street drugs) have almost identical adverse effects on the mind
and behavior, including drug-induced behavioral disorders,
psychosis, mania, drug abuse and addiction.
* A large percentage of children who take Ritalin and other
stimulants become robotic, lethargic, depressed or withdrawn.
* Ritalin can retard growth in children by disrupting the cycles
of growth hormone released by the pituitary gland.
* Ritalin is addictive and can become a gateway drug to other
addictions.
* There is no solid evidence that ADHD is a genuine disorder or disease of any kind.
Dr. Breggin also explains that Ritalin is so harmful that the
U.S. military rejects applications from young men who have been
taking it.
Dr. Breggin is part of a rising chorus of medical authorities and
psychologists who oppose the wholesale drugging of children. Dr.
Kevin McCready of the San Joaquin Psychotherapy Center is
particularly outspoken in his opposition to the growing use of
drugs on children:
"The massive drugging of children in America is an absolute
scandal. ADHD is a myth, and an excuse to drug children to make
them more easily manageable – with no thought about the long-term
mental and health consequences for the children.
"Millions of children are being conditioned to take drugs thanks
to their daily dose of Ritalin, Prozac and other drugs. <b>Uncle
Sam is now the world's #1 drug pusher.</b>"
Dr. McCready advocates dealing with child behavior problems
through an innovative psychological approach that involves
neither drugging nor coercion.
For parents interested in alternatives to drugging their
children, Dr. McCready can be reached at San Joaquin
Psychotherapy Center:
Phone: 559-292-7572
Fax: 559-292-7582<
E-mail: SJPC@some email.com
Web site: SJPC - www.medsfree.com
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a woman who is a medium or a wizard shall be put to death" - Leviticus 20:27
More info @ http://www.drugawareness.org
Oh husband, dear husband, please don't be a fool;
Working overtime is wasting your tool;
For better it is to be poor all your life,
Than bring a soft peter home to your wife;
I used to be happy as your little queen,
But now every night you're nowhere to be seen;
You come home from work just able to creep,
I feel like screwing, but you want to sleep.
Each evening, dear husband, you crawl into bed,
Your intentions are good, but your peter is dead;
I play with your pecker all wrinkled and dry,
I get so damn mad, I could lay down and cry.
I have pleaded with you dear, with tears in my eyes,
I've played with your balls, but your pecker won't rise;
So I'll find me a man who works eight hours a day,
And while you're at work, we'll proceed to make hay.
For in this whole world there is only one sin,
For which there's no pardon, and never has been;
And that is a man who is so foolish and mean,
That he gives up his fucking to run a machine.
On 25 Apr 2001 16:00:00 GMT, SSRIHater <AntiA...@thank.God.4AIDS>
wrote:
<lord_terabyte_and_th...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
news:grsdetgoi7pglbev3...@4ax.com...
> >Every day some 6 million children - some as young as 2 or 3 - are
> >now given Ritalin and other stimulants at the urging of school
> >officials and psychiatrists. The reason: They are diagnosed with
> >Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), a recently
> >discovered mental "disease" whose symptoms include short
> >attention span, impulsive behavior, and difficulty sitting still.
> >
> >Many more boys than girls are diagnosed with ADHD. In some
> >schools - including two school districts near Virginia Beach,
> >Virginia - as many as 20 percent of the boys are now given
> >them more easily manageable - with no thought about the long-term
It worked for me, and it still does 30 years later.
Cute poem. But couldn't you have snipped the troll's fantasy world
before posting it?
--
Kitten
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
I'm a bitch, I'm a lover; I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint; I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm you dream; I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
-
- - Meredith Brooks
Whoever wrote this article didn't do much homework. ADHD was not "recently
discovered." The complement of symptoms we now call ADHD was identified as
far back as 1920 after an epidemic of encephalitis in the UK. Hell, I was
diagnosed with it 30 years ago.
>
> Many more boys than girls are diagnosed with ADHD. In some
> schools - including two school districts near Virginia Beach,
> Virginia - as many as 20 percent of the boys are now given
> Ritalin daily.
The reason "many more boys and girls are diagnosed" is that boys tend to get
more attention than girls because they are more likely to experience other
co-occurring disorders like Conduct Disorder and Oppositional Defiant
Disorder with ADHD than girls. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
>
> The strongest advocates of drugging children are the Department
> of Education, educational bureaucrats and psychiatrists. The U.S.
> consumes over 90 percent of Ritalin produced in the world. What
> bureaucrats don't tell parents, however, is that Ritalin has
> effects similar to amphetamines and is listed by the Drug
> Enforcement Agency as a Schedule II controlled substance.
If IRC, Ritalin *is* a Schedule II controlled substance. Who wrote this
crap?
> Despite these problems, bureaucrats often insist that "ADHD
> children" be given Ritalin and other drugs. Parents who
> resist are increasingly being threatened with charges of child
> abuse and threats of having their children taken away from them.
I agree that this is ridiculous.
> For instance:
>
> * In Albany, New York, Michael and Jill Carroll were charged with
> child abuse when they told school officials they wanted to take
> their 7-year-old son, Kyle, off Ritalin. They are now on a
> statewide list of child abusers.
>
> * In California, Dr. Robert Sinaiko had his medical license
> revoked and was fined $99,000 by an administrative law judge for
> taking a boy off Ritalin and prescribing alternative treatment.
>
> * In Millbrook, New York, officials in the Millbrook school
> district called police and child protective services when
> Patricia Weathers took her 9-year-old son, Michael, off Ritalin
> and other government-prescribed drugs.
IThe government does not prescribe drugs. Doctors do. I wonder what the
specifics of these cases are?
>
> Dr. Peter Breggin, founder of the Center for the Study of
> Psychiatry, raises many chilling questions about the consequences
> of drugging millions of children, in his recent book, "Talking
> Back to Ritalin." Breggin states:
>
> * The number of children being drugged has increased sevenfold in
> the last few years.
I agree that ADHD is overdiagnosed. But as a disorder becomes more widely
known and familiar, more and more people who have it will be identified.
That's how medicine works.
>
> * Ritalin and amphetamines (like crystal meth and other illegal
> street drugs) have almost identical adverse effects on the mind
> and behavior, including drug-induced behavioral disorders,
> psychosis, mania, drug abuse and addiction.
I have used many illegal drugs, but none of them have helped me like Ritalin
has.
>
> * A large percentage of children who take Ritalin and other
> stimulants become robotic, lethargic, depressed or withdrawn.
If overdiagnosed, yes.
>
> * Ritalin can retard growth in children by disrupting the cycles
> of growth hormone released by the pituitary gland.
Didn't happen in my case, nor in my brother's.
>
> * Ritalin is addictive and can become a gateway drug to other
> addictions.
Not for me, it didn't, nor for my brother.
>
> * There is no solid evidence that ADHD is a genuine disorder or disease of
any kind.
Wrong, wrong, WROONNNNNNNG. I can personally attest to this fact.
>
> Dr. Breggin also explains that Ritalin is so harmful that the
> U.S. military rejects applications from young men who have been
> taking it.
>
> Dr. Breggin is part of a rising chorus of medical authorities and
> psychologists who oppose the wholesale drugging of children. Dr.
> Kevin McCready of the San Joaquin Psychotherapy Center is
> particularly outspoken in his opposition to the growing use of
> drugs on children:
>
> "The massive drugging of children in America is an absolute
> scandal. ADHD is a myth, and an excuse to drug children to make
> them more easily manageable - with no thought about the long-term
> mental and health consequences for the children.
Yeah, a myth. Right. It sure as hell isn't a myth that I was able to
graduate high school and get accepted into a top ten college with the help
of Ritalin.
> "Millions of children are being conditioned to take drugs thanks
> to their daily dose of Ritalin, Prozac and other drugs. <b>Uncle
> Sam is now the world's #1 drug pusher.</b>"
More histrionics. What about all the kids AND adults who have been helped
by it?
Also, according to figures reported by the DOJ, the number of people
taking the meds that are prescribed for AD/HD and other conditions does
not come out to 6 million. Those figures include adults *and* children
and do not specify if the medication is prescribed for AD/HD or for
other reasons. IIRC, the figures indicate that the number of *children*
prescribed methylphenidate is less than 730,000. Please search the
archives at http://groups.google.com for previous discussions of these
figures.
>lord_terabyte_and_th...@cox-internet.com wrote:
>>
>> Oh husband, dear husband, I tremble with fear;
>> You've been on overtime almost all year;
>> And since you are gone till way late at night,
>> A good piece of ass seems way out of sight.
>>
><snipped>
>> >
>> >Uncle Sam Now America's No. 1 Drug Pusher
>> >
>> >Every day some 6 million children
><snipped of *Hater's fantasy world>
>
>Cute poem. But couldn't you have snipped the troll's fantasy world
>before posting it?
I would have, but they get so upset when they are snipped.
Ah, they get upset no matter *what* you do. Trolls are funny that way.
>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/25/01633.shtml
>Uncle Sam Now America's No. 1 Drug Pusher
>Every day some 6 million children – some as young as 2 or 3 – are
>now given Ritalin and other stimulants at the urging of school officials
> and psychiatrists.
Giving behavior changing drugs to children is immoral.
> The reason: They are diagnosed with
>Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), a recently
>discovered mental "disease" whose symptoms include short
>attention span, impulsive behavior, and difficulty sitting still.
I'm not sure i believe in ADHD, every kid i've ever met would fit that
criteria at some stage in their lives.
>Many more boys than girls are diagnosed with ADHD. In some
>schools – including two school districts near Virginia Beach,
>Virginia – as many as 20 percent of the boys are now given
>Ritalin daily.
Boys by nature misbehave more than girls, drugging them isn't the
answer.
Zardos.
May our bits collide, somewhere out there
=======================================
WebPage at www.hispc.demon.co.uk
=======================================
>I agree that ADHD is overdiagnosed.
Then you agree there a children out there being drugged unnecessarily
> But as a disorder becomes more widely
>known and familiar, more and more people who have it will be identified.
>That's how medicine works.
misdiagnosing children and over-prescribing drugs to spread
information about a questionable condition isn't the way medicine
works.
It is however, how large drug companies make such huge profits.
Note in the photo, the "Prozakian eyes" of the insane. She also
pushes/"prescribes"/recomends drugging Children. See her posting history
under both e-mail addys in Google.
She is accompanied by current sex partner - also a "headcase."
Her photo below - pass along.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6082/KEN-ME94.JPG
"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" <kit...@whitepine.com> who now writes in
message news:3AE71B7...@whitepine.com...
> lord_terabyte_and_th...@cox-internet.com wrote:
> >
> > Oh husband, dear husband, I tremble with fear;
> <snipped>
> > >
> > >Uncle Sam Now America's No. 1 Drug Pusher
> > >
> > >Every day some 6 million children
> <snipped of *Hater's fantasy world>
> Cute poem. But couldn't you have snipped the troll's fantasy world
> before posting it?
Still hiding and posting annon. and pushing Ritalin?
How are YOU doing, eh you MENTAL CASE?
You are all screwed up... so you *PUSH* drugs on kids, don't you? Does it
make you "feel better"?
Mental patients are the ones that get "upset" --- particularly when you
quote their past posts, and their *CRIMES*, eh you Prozakian Space Cadet,
with the spaced out eyes always pushing Ritalin etc. on kids, and violating
Court Orders so you could drug your own Child against the Child's father's
wishes in order to indulge yourself.
Mental Patients are "funny" that way.... they must always "recruit", push
drugs and "diagnose", right <kit...@whitepine.com> ?
SO YOU ARE AN ADDICT....
>
>
More like little boys squirm more in Latin class then little girls.... for
some odd reason.... Obviously little boys should be DRUGGED!
Ask any Latin teacher for small boys in school....
BULLSHIT YOU PROZAKIAN SPACE CADET!
WHO CARE WHAT MENTAL PATIENTS LIKE YOU AND THE OTHER RITALIN PUSHERS FOR
KIDS CLAIM ANYWAY?
TRY LOOKING AT *REAL* STATISTICS* RATHER THEN WHAT "PROZAKIANS" CLAIM!
LOOK AT YOUR OWN "SPACED OUT EYES" YOU MENTAL CASE!
Please report this annon.Child abuser/Child drugger to TX authorities!
goddess...@my-deja.com NOW <kit...@whitepine.com> fled across state lin
es from AK to TX, to drug her Child against father's wishes. Real father
seeks custody!
Note in the photo, the "Prozakian eyes" of the insane. She also
pushes/"prescribes"/recomends drugging Children. See her posting history
under both e-mail addys in Google.
She is accompanied by current sex partner - also a "headcase."
Her photo below - pass along.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6082/KEN-ME94.JPG
That may be but it's very, very *profitable*.
>
> > The reason: They are diagnosed with
> >Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), a recently
> >discovered mental "disease" whose symptoms include short
> >attention span, impulsive behavior, and difficulty sitting still.
>
> I'm not sure i believe in ADHD, every kid i've ever met would fit that
> criteria at some stage in their lives.
Esp. if you are a small boy in school studying Latin do you think?
>
> >Many more boys than girls are diagnosed with ADHD. In some
> >schools - including two school districts near Virginia Beach,
> >Virginia - as many as 20 percent of the boys are now given
> >Ritalin daily.
>
> Boys by nature misbehave more than girls, drugging them isn't the
> answer.
SURE IT IS!
They OBEY don't they?
Plus in Amerika, school districts recieve more federal money that way, per
head, AND
teachers have "better behaved" Children (esp. those little boys!).
Are you stupid, or merely another British subject?
Soon, you will learn our Amerikan ways!
More profits that way for us!
Plus your school children will be conditioned to behave better... so it
works
all the way around you see. :)
Buy stocks!
You wish. That would make you relevant, wouldn't it?
I think there probably are children taking Ritalin unnecessarily, yes. But
that doesn't deny that it helps many kids and adults, myself included both
during childhood and adulthood.
>
> > But as a disorder becomes more widely
> >known and familiar, more and more people who have it will be identified.
> >That's how medicine works.
>
> misdiagnosing children and over-prescribing drugs to spread
> information about a questionable condition isn't the way medicine
> works.
>
> It is however, how large drug companies make such huge profits.
It may be a questionable condition to you, because you don't have it. I do
have it, and believe me, there's NO question.
[...]
> > >
> > > Many more boys than girls are diagnosed with ADHD. In some
> > > schools - including two school districts near Virginia Beach,
> > > Virginia - as many as 20 percent of the boys are now given
> > > Ritalin daily.
> >
> > The reason "many more boys and girls are diagnosed" is that boys tend to
> get
> > more attention than girls because they are more likely to experience
other
> > co-occurring disorders like Conduct Disorder and Oppositional Defiant
> > Disorder with ADHD than girls. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
> >
>
> More like little boys squirm more in Latin class then little girls.... for
> some odd reason.... Obviously little boys should be DRUGGED!
>
> Ask any Latin teacher for small boys in school....
Wrong. Do you even know what Conduct Disorder or Oppositional Defiant
Disorder are, troll? It's a lot more than squirming in class. Ask any
parent of a child who has it, my parents included in RE my younger brother.
[snip]
>Ritalin is meth. Pure and simple. It is listed as a Schedule I Controlled
>Substance by the United States Government because of its addictive and abusive
>potential.
>
>You're a speed addict. Pat yourself on the back.
You know, good trolling is generally enhanced by having at least *some* grasp of
relevant facts.
You're wide of the target in every respect.
There are some good tutorials available on proficient recreational trolling.
Check them out. *Then* try and show us what you've got.
Joe Parsons
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Later, on his way home, he stopped at the pedestrian crossing, waiting
for the lights to change. A girl standing next to him eyed the large
bulge in his shorts. "What's that?" she asked, her eyes gleaming with
lust.
"Tennis ball," came the breathless reply.
"Oh," said the girl sympathetically, "that must be painful ... I had
tennis elbow once."
"Say, Mom, why is my bigger brother named Mighty Storm?"
She told him, "Because he was conceived during a mighty storm."
Then he asked, "Why is my sister named Cornflower?"
She replied, "Well, your father and I were in a cornfield when
we made her."
"And why is my other sister called Moon child?"
The mother said, "We were watching the moon landing while she
was conceived."
Mother Indian paused and asked her son, "Tell me, Torn Rubber,
why are you so curious?
Ethel noticed something funny about Mabel's ear and she said, "Mabel,
did you
know you've got a suppository in your left ear?"
Mabel answered, "I have? A suppository?" She pulled it out and stared
at it.
Then she said, Ethel, I'm glad you saw this thing. Now I think I know
where my
hearing aid is."
>Ritalin is meth. Pure and simple. It is listed as a Schedule I Controlled
>Substance by the United States Government because of its addictive and abusive
>potential.
>
>You're a speed addict. Pat yourself on the back.
A mother and baby camel are talking one day when the baby
camel asks, "Mom why have I got these huge three toed feet?"
The mother replies, "Well son, when we trek across the desert
your toes will help you to stay on top of the soft sand".
"OK" said the son. A few minutes later
the son asks, "Mom, why have I got these great long eyelashes?"
"They are there to keep the sand out of your eyes on the trips
through the desert",
"Thanks Mom" replies the son. After a short while, the son
returns and asks, "Mom, why have I got these great big humps
on my back??"
The mother, now a little impatient with the boy replies, "They
are there to help us store water for our long treks across the
desert, so we can go without drinking for long periods."
"That's great mom, so we have huge feet to stop us sinking, and
long eyelashes to keep the sand from our eyes and these humps
to store water, but Mom"
"Yes son?"
"Why the heck are we in the San Diego Zoo?"
>It may be a questionable condition to you, because you don't have it. I do
>have it, and believe me, there's NO question.
forgive me for saying this, but just because you think you have this
condition, that doesn't mean the condition exists. I've talked to
people who swear they have met little green men, that doesn't mean
they have.
If Ritalin helps you as an adult, i'm all for that, but i don't think
routinely dopeing kids is the way to go.
Its claimed that some kids suffer from hyper-activity, i'm sure
cannabis would help calm them down, but no body in their right mind
would condone giving cannabis to kids, yet many members of the group (
A.S.D.M ) think its o.k. for adults to use.
In the last hundred years or so people have tried all sorts of things
to control their kids, including E.C.T. and even lobotomies. Ritalin
is just the modern equivalent.
Ten years from now will we find the prescription of Ritalin for
behavioral problems in kids as distasteful as the use of E.C.T or
lobotomies ?
After conferring about this for a while, the two nuns decide
to lock the door of the room, strip off their habits, and paint in the
nude. In the middle of the project, there comes a knock at the door.
"Who is
it?", calls one of the nuns.
"Blind man," replies a voice from the other side of the door.
The two nuns look at each other and shrug, and, deciding that no harm
can
come from letting a blind man into the room, they open the door.
"Nice tits," says the man, "where do you want these blinds?"
The asshole who pushes Ritalin for Kids says this in his own junkie "mental
health 'support' group".
============ start:
Subject: I want a new drug...
RJT <msw_i...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9c6rim$7c7$1...@news1.Radix.Net...
> What ADD-related drugs are working for y'all out there? For the past
> several years I've been taking a drug cocktail of an SSRI and Ritalin to
> deal with ADD symptoms. For a while I took 40mg of Prozac and one 20 mg.
> Ritalin SR every day, and that worked really well for a while, but after a
> few years I started experiencing diminishing effects from the Prozac so I
> switched to Zoloft. Zoloft was great at first -- it worked really well in
> combination with the Ritalin, but I had killer gastointestinal side
effects
> and it absolutely killed my libido. I've just transitioned off the
> Zoloft/Ritalin combo and now I'm med-free, but it's apparent that I need
> *something*. I've heard a lot about Adderall and Concerta -- how do those
> compare with Ritalin? I need to see my shrink fairly soon but I'd like to
> get some feedback from people taking the meds before I make a
recommendation
> to her. Thanks in advance!
>
> Cheers,
> RJT a.k.a Natty_Dread (and pain in the ass :-)
>
>
>She is accompanied by current sex partner - also a "headcase."
>Her photo below - pass along.
I've seen this picture before, what's the story ???
Is she really your wife ?
Does she have your kid on Ritalin against your wishes ?
Just a Prozakian that pushes/promotes Ritalin for Children.
Interesting archives on her... safely downloaded :)
Some of her "buddies" were talking about "sqealing to the trolls", about her
"misconduct".
> Is she really your wife ?
NO WAY!
THAT UGLY, OBESE THING ?!
NO WAY!
> Does she have your kid on Ritalin against your wishes ?
As per above.... THAT THING is *NOT* my ex-wife!
THAT THING, *crossed* state lines, from Arkansas to Texas
against a COURT ORDER, while a divorce was pending between THAT THING and
IT'S husband, with a Child, so that she could DRUG THE CHILD.
Her husband (at the time) didn't wish to have the Child drugged with
Ritalin.
So.... THAT THING fled across state lines (note again - AGAINST COURT
ORDERS) so that she could drug the Child.
(It's in the archives under her former e-mail address.)
THAT THING is a "Prozakian".
It's noted that a parent on psychiatric drugs seems to put their kids on
Ritalin... No formal studies... but I have noted this "phenomenon" many
times.
Ritalin is what "Prozakians" start their Children on.
No doubt you have noted how vigorously many "Prozakians" and "Borg"
_promote_/_push_ psychotrophic drugs to "newbies" wandering into the various
"mental health 'support' groups"?
Well... "Prozakian" parent(s) have an awful lot of "medical/surgical"
proceedures done on their Children... lots of drugs...
My Child had unnecessary (in fact, NIH Clinial Guideline #12 says NOT TO
HAVE SUCH a "proceedure" done - don't wanna go into it) surgery, lots of
drugs, etc... no RITALIN that I know of - yet!
In brief, there's your answer.
Hmm... I'll have to post Ingrid Eve Runden, MD's photo... along with various
sexpartners, and other "allies" of hers...
Nice to see you back. You have a sense of ethics at least...
though the mental cases seem to "convince" you... despite your own
thinking...
>> Giving behavior changing drugs to children is immoral.
>
>That may be but it's very, very *profitable*.
I implied that when i said :-
"It is however, how large drug companies make such huge profits"
I may be just a stupid Brit, but please try harder to keep up with me.
>Esp. if you are a small boy in school studying Latin do you think?
Man !, them Latin classes really got to you.
>Are you stupid, or merely another British subject?
Actually i'm English, not British,
As for Stupid, well, my wife is in bed waiting for me, and both my
kids are upstairs, asleep and drug-free. that's how stupid i am.
>Joe Parsons wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:40:17 -0700, Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad
>> <mjeow...@bungmunch.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >Ritalin is meth. Pure and simple. It is listed as a Schedule I Controlled
>> >Substance by the United States Government because of its addictive and abusive
>> >potential.
>> >
>> >You're a speed addict. Pat yourself on the back.
>>
>> You know, good trolling is generally enhanced by having at least *some* grasp of
>> relevant facts.
>>
>> You're wide of the target in every respect.
>>
>> There are some good tutorials available on proficient recreational trolling.
>> Check them out. *Then* try and show us what you've got.
>
>How about you just go read the chemistry behind Ritalin and then come back and
>dismiss me out-of-hand as nothing more than a stupid uneducated troll.
>
>Here, I'll make it easy for your drug riddled brain. Just click on the link
>below:
>http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methphen.htm
>
>Ritalin. Methylphenidate. A methamphetamine.
Nope. Not even close. Methylphenidate hydrochloride is not an amphetamine.
Methamphetamine is. They are two different substances entirely. But thank you
for clarifying that by "meth" you meant to equate "methylphenidate" with
"methamphetamine." It cinches out the wiggle room.
And since I'm feeling uncharacteristically charitable today, I'll even tell you
that methylphenidate is not a Schedule I Controlled Substance--and even if it
were, the criteria for Scheduling any drug are not as you have represented them
to be.
Did you want to continue?
>Now shut up and go away lest I smack thee.
Can spelling flames be far behind, I wonder?
You made my day Joe, thanks.
>> Is she really your wife ?
>
>NO WAY!
>THAT UGLY, OBESE THING ?!
>NO WAY!
Then i fail to see your interest here, true if she has done, what you
say she has done, its pretty shitty, but why pick her out of a crowd,
there are greater crimes being perpetrated against children, bigger
fish to fry
>Nice to see you back. You have a sense of ethics at least...
>though the mental cases seem to "convince" you... despite your own
>thinking...
Nice to be back. i usually end up convincing myself, or should that be
deluding myself, i'm never quite sure......
Better watch it Joe. He *thinks* he's armed.
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:39:33 -0600, "ralph v" <ral...@attcanada.ca>
wrote:
OK... maybe I'll get some Ritalin???
> >Esp. if you are a small boy in school studying Latin do you think?
> Man !, them Latin classes really got to you.
{tell me about it! Ugh!:}
You know... saw this British thing --- one of the "Inspector Perot"
series... he was after this scoundrel... of a Latin teacher :)
{{ psychiatrist Ingrid Eve Runden, MD - my wife at the time...
< she _caught the "idea" ahead of me.... as she had studied more years of
Latin then me... > started laughing like hell when
the character "Inspector Perot" - said to the scoundrel Latin teach... in
recapping/summarising his crimes and his plottings, began by saying: "You
teach Latin to small boys..."
>
> >Are you stupid, or merely another British subject?
>
> Actually i'm English, not British,
OK...
>
> As for Stupid, well, my wife is in bed waiting for me, and both my
> kids are upstairs, asleep and drug-free. that's how stupid i am.
>
Very good!
She's "here" and _promotes_ the shit, to parents.
<text deleted>
>
> Better watch it Joe. He *thinks* he's armed.
FUNNY HOW YOU CUT OUT ALL THE PARENTING/CHILD GROUPS.... ALONG WITH YOUR
FELLOW PUSHER...
WONDER WHY?
>Joe Parsons wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:40:17 -0700, Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad
>> <mjeow...@bungmunch.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >Ritalin is meth. Pure and simple. It is listed as a Schedule I Controlled
>> >Substance by the United States Government because of its addictive and abusive
>> >potential.
>> >
>> >You're a speed addict. Pat yourself on the back.
>>
>> You know, good trolling is generally enhanced by having at least *some* grasp of
>> relevant facts.
>>
>> You're wide of the target in every respect.
>>
>> There are some good tutorials available on proficient recreational trolling.
>> Check them out. *Then* try and show us what you've got.
>
>How about you just go read the chemistry behind Ritalin and then come back and
>dismiss me out-of-hand as nothing more than a stupid uneducated troll.
>
>Here, I'll make it easy for your drug riddled brain. Just click on the link
>below:
>http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methphen.htm
>
>Ritalin. Methylphenidate. A methamphetamine.
You might want to learn some organic chemistry. Would you say that
Sudafed is a methamphetamine? It is virtually identical. Ritalin is
quite a bit different.
BTW, you may speak of amphetamines, of which methamphetamine is one
(but not Ritalin), but you look stupid when you say "a
methamphetamine" as if there is more than one. Of course you could get
technical...there are 2 optical isomers of methamphetamine, and any
number of different salts, and the freebase...
Hell, Ritalin is not even an amine!
A guy goes into a costume shop.
He says, "I'm going to a costume party, I want to go as Adam."
The girl brings out a fig leaf.
He says, "Not big enough."
She brings out a bigger one.
He says, "Still not big enough."
She brings out a huge fig leaf.
He says, "Still not big enough."
She says, "Listen, Ace, why don't you just throw it over your shoulder
and go as a gasoline pump?"
>
>Zardos <zardos@hispc-delete-.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:FW3nOm2VA57xmO...@4ax.com...
>> >"==alexplore==" <NoMoreDeathThreats@FromPsych-drug-addicts-please!>
>wrote:
>>
>> >> Is she really your wife ?
>> >
>> >NO WAY!
>> >THAT UGLY, OBESE THING ?!
>> >NO WAY!
>>
>> Then i fail to see your interest here, true if she has done, what you
>> say she has done, its pretty shitty, but why pick her out of a crowd,
>> there are greater crimes being perpetrated against children, bigger
>> fish to fry
>
>She's "here" and _promotes_ the shit, to parents.
When geese fly south, why is one side of the V formation longer than
the other?
Because there is more geese on that side.
>
>Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote in message
>news:3AE76ECE...@whitepine.com...
>> Joe Parsons wrote:
>
>
><text deleted>
>
>>
>> Better watch it Joe. He *thinks* he's armed.
>
>FUNNY HOW YOU CUT OUT ALL THE PARENTING/CHILD GROUPS.... ALONG WITH YOUR
>FELLOW PUSHER...
>
>WONDER WHY?
>
Back in World War II, a bunch of Americans were being held in a German
prison camp. The old German general wanted to keep morale up (so as
to lessen the amount of escape attempts), so he would bring the
prisoners out into the middle of the camp and run them through
exercises.
One day, the general brought the prisoners out and said, "Alright
gentlemen, today ve shall all pretend to be a grandfather clock." The
Americans, having nothing better to do, all started rocking back and
forth shouting, "Tick! Tock! Tick! Tock!". All that is, except for
one rebellious corporal who just shouted, "Tick!...Tick!...". Well
the general was furious. He stormed down into the camp, grabbed the
corporal by the neck and exclaimed, "Don't you know, ve have ways of
making you, 'Tock!'."
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:39:33 -0600, "ralph v" <ral...@attcanada.ca>
wrote:
>Is this a Top-Joke?!!!!
>
>Zardos <zardos@hispc-delete-.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:nmvnOiX7xv6EbYw9lnFn=JPq...@4ax.com...
>> >"==alexplore==" <NoMoreDeathThreats@FromPsych-drug-addicts-please!>
>wrote:
>>
>> >> Giving behavior changing drugs to children is immoral.
>> >
>> >That may be but it's very, very *profitable*.
>>
>> I implied that when i said :-
>>
>> "It is however, how large drug companies make such huge profits"
>>
>> I may be just a stupid Brit, but please try harder to keep up with me.
>>
>
>OK... maybe I'll get some Ritalin???
>
>> >Esp. if you are a small boy in school studying Latin do you think?
>
>
>> Man !, them Latin classes really got to you.
>
>{tell me about it! Ugh!:}
>
>You know... saw this British thing --- one of the "Inspector Perot"
>series... he was after this scoundrel... of a Latin teacher :)
>
>{{ psychiatrist Ingrid Eve Runden, MD - my wife at the time...
>< she _caught the "idea" ahead of me.... as she had studied more years of
>Latin then me... > started laughing like hell when
>the character "Inspector Perot" - said to the scoundrel Latin teach... in
>recapping/summarising his crimes and his plottings, began by saying: "You
>teach Latin to small boys..."
An intrepid photographer went to a haunted castle determined to get a
picture of a ghost which was said to appear only once in a hundred
years. Not wanting to frighten off the ghost, the photographer sat in
the dark until midnight when the apparition became visible. The ghost
turned out to be friendly and consented to pose for one shapshot. The
happy photographer popped a bulb into his camera and took the picture.
After dashing into his studio, the photographer developed the negative
and groaned. It was underexposed and completely blank. The spirit
was willing, but the flash was weak.
Aw, now you've gone and *ruined* him!
And we were gonna have so much *fun*!
Damn spoilsport...bringing actual facts into a discussion so early.
Joe Parsons
>>
>>Now shut up and go away lest I smack thee.
----------------------------------------------------------------
At least it didn't alter their brain chemistry, that's for sure..
>
>
> ----
> http://www.frozenrodent.com/prices.html
Could you give the proper attribution to the one that wrote that please?
Otherwise you make it appear that I wrote the above.
Please be more alert!
>
> ----
> http://www.frozenrodent.com/prices.html
>
><nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:4c2fet8ofouhvk20m...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:24:49 -0400, "==alexplore=="
>> <NoMoreDeathThreats@FromPsych-drug-addicts-please!> wrote:
>>
>> >> and it absolutely killed my libido. I've just transitioned off the
>> >> Zoloft/Ritalin combo and now I'm med-free, but it's apparent that I
>need
>> >> *something*.
>>
>>
>> Go get drunk..
>
>Could you give the proper attribution to the one that wrote that please?
>
>Otherwise you make it appear that I wrote the above.
Q: Why don't little girls fart?
A: They don't have assholes until they get married.
In awhile... when I get a chance... so you want to see the lying, Child
abusing, dog killing, fucked in the head psychiatrist "Borg" slut, eh?
She's attractive, or used to be... at least..
I presume those that fuck her think so... which are more then a few in the
"line up" to take a turn.
A wide variety of ages... :)
"Paw & sonny" :)
Rednecks and "psychotherapists :)
An interesting variety... though her "taste" in men has altered it would
seem, from what she used to prefer... from V shaped with small waists types,
to dragging drop asses with guts.
Hmm... the drugz "improved" her, "helped her"... ;)
as the mental defectives say... Well... her concept of male attractviness
has certainly mutated.
Her choice ... errr... choices :)
>
> ----
> http://www.frozenrodent.com/prices.html
It's the Spring of 1957 and Bobby goes to pick up his date. He's a
pretty hip guy with his own car. When he goes to the front door, the
girl's father answers and invites him in. "Carrie's not ready yet, so
why don't you have a seat?" he says.
"That's cool" says Bobby. Carrie's father asks Bobby what they're
planning to do.
Bobby replies politely that they will probably just go to the soda
shop or a movie.
Carrie's father responds, "Why don't you two go out and screw? I
hear all the kids are doing it." Naturally this comes as quite a
surprise to Bobby so he asks Carrie's dad to repeat it.
"Yeah," says Carrie's father, "Carrie really likes to screw; she'll
screw all night if we let her!"
Well, this just made Bobby's eyes light up, and his plan for the
evening was beginning to look pretty good.
A few minutes later, Carrie comes downstairs in her little poodle
skirt and announces that she's ready to go. Almost breathless with
anticipation, Bobby escorts his date out the front door.
About 20 minutes later, Carrie rushes back into the house, slams the
door behind her, and screams at her father, "DAMMIT DADDY! IT'S CALLED
THE TWIST!!!"
>
>>
>>
>> ----
>> http://www.frozenrodent.com/prices.html
>
>Q: Why don't little girls fart?
>A: They don't have assholes until they get married.
>>
>>Please be more alert!
What's a lert?
>
>Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe <kit...@whitepine.com> wrote in message
>news:3AE76ECE...@whitepine.com...
>> Joe Parsons wrote:
>
>
><text deleted>
>
>>
>> Better watch it Joe. He *thinks* he's armed.
>
>
>WONDER WHY?
Oh I wonder wonder who doop who wrote the book of love?
Yeah?
Where was that?
>
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> http://www.frozenrodent.com/prices.html
Ummm...because we don't have the need to piss people off like you do?
"Joe Parsons" <j...@yankeemedia.net> wrote in message
news:rppeetctjt7ndr0vb...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:17:53 -0700, Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad
> <mjeow...@bungmunch.com> wrote:
>
> >Joe Parsons wrote:
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:40:17 -0700, Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad
> >> <mjeow...@bungmunch.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> >Ritalin is meth. Pure and simple. It is listed as a Schedule I
Controlled
> >> >Substance by the United States Government because of its addictive and
abusive
> >> >potential.
> >> >
> >> >You're a speed addict. Pat yourself on the back.
> >>
> >> You know, good trolling is generally enhanced by having at least *some*
grasp of
> >> relevant facts.
> >>
> >> You're wide of the target in every respect.
> >>
> >> There are some good tutorials available on proficient recreational
trolling.
> >> Check them out. *Then* try and show us what you've got.
> >
> >How about you just go read the chemistry behind Ritalin and then come
back and
> >dismiss me out-of-hand as nothing more than a stupid uneducated troll.
> >
> >Here, I'll make it easy for your drug riddled brain. Just click on the
link
> >below:
> >http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/methphen.htm
> >
> >Ritalin. Methylphenidate. A methamphetamine.
>
> Nope. Not even close. Methylphenidate hydrochloride is not an
amphetamine.
> Methamphetamine is. They are two different substances entirely. But
thank you
> for clarifying that by "meth" you meant to equate "methylphenidate" with
> "methamphetamine." It cinches out the wiggle room.
>
> And since I'm feeling uncharacteristically charitable today, I'll even
tell you
> that methylphenidate is not a Schedule I Controlled Substance--and even if
it
> were, the criteria for Scheduling any drug are not as you have represented
them
> to be.
>
> Did you want to continue?
>
> >Now shut up and go away lest I smack thee.
>
> Can spelling flames be far behind, I wonder?
>
> Joe Parsons
>
><nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:cr1fetgslpf7id47s...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:24:46 -0400, "==alexplore=="
>> <NoMoreDeathThreats@FromPsych-drug-addicts-please!> wrote:
>>
>> >Hmm... I'll have to post Ingrid Eve Runden, MD's photo... along with
>various
>> >sexpartners, and other "allies" of hers...
>>
>>
>> Yes please post a photo of her!
>
>In awhile... when I get a chance... so you want to see the lying, Child
>abusing, dog killing, fucked in the head psychiatrist "Borg" slut, eh?
My wife only makes love doggy style.
After I sit up and beg she rolls over and plays dead.
>
>She's attractive, or used to be... at least..
>I presume those that fuck her think so... which are more then a few in the
>"line up" to take a turn.
Hear about the farmer who couldn't keep his hands off his wife?
He fired them.
>
>A wide variety of ages... :)
>"Paw & sonny" :)
>Rednecks and "psychotherapists :)
One day Superman was flying though the air and was
thinking, "Man I gotta get laid," he said to himself.
Just then he saw Wonderwoman laying nude on the
beach. So he thought up a plan. "I'll fly down there, fuck
her real fast, fly away, and she'll never know what hit her,"
So he flew down real fast, pumped a couple of times and
flew off.
Then wonderwoman sat up and said, "What in the hell
was that."
Then the invisible man sat up and said, "I don't know but
my ass sure hurts."
>
>An interesting variety... though her "taste" in men has altered it would
>seem, from what she used to prefer... from V shaped with small waists types,
>to dragging drop asses with guts.
One night a man was getting very drunk in a pub. He
staggered to the toilets at the back of the pub to take
a piss, whipping his prick out as he went in the door.
However, he had wandered into the ladies room by
mistake, surprising a woman who was on her way
out of the toilet.
"This is for ladies!" she screamed.
The drunk waved his dick at her and said "So is this!"
>
>Hmm... the drugz "improved" her, "helped her"... ;)
>as the mental defectives say... Well... her concept of male attractviness
>has certainly mutated.
>Her choice ... errr... choices :)
Top Ten Signs Your Relationship Is On The Rocks
10. Her term of affection for you is "You Bastard."
9. She shaves your eyebrows off while you are asleep.
8. She rushes to answer the phone each time it rings,
and puts it down with a hushed, "I can't talk now...
I'll call you later."
7. Your picture on her wall has darts in it.
6. She reads books like "Women are From Venus, Men
Are Complete Assholes."
5. She falls asleep during sex. The oral kind. While
she's giving it.
4. When you call her, she answers your voice with,
"Oh. It's only you."
3. She cancels your date because she has to clean
out the septic tank.
2. She makes inquiries about going on the Witness
Protection Program.
And the Number One Sign Your Relationship Is On The
Rocks...
1. Her cat pees on you. And receives a reward.
>
>
>
>>
>> ----
>> http://www.frozenrodent.com/prices.html
>
>A man was walking around a new town, looking for a
>place to eat, when he spotted a restaurant called
>"Anything You Want". A notice on the window read
>"We can fix any dish you ask for - if we don't have
>it, you will be paid $200".
>
>Thinking this was a pretty good deal, the man went
>in and sat down at a table. The waitress came over
>to take his order. He said "I'll have roast elephant
>on rye bread, hold the mayo."
>
>She snapped her gum, stuck her pencil back in her
>hair and walked into the kitchen.
>
>All of a sudden, the man heard screaming and yelling,
>pots and pans being thrown, and dishes breaking. The
>kitchen door slammed open as the owner came charging
>out. He put two one-hundred dollar bills on the
>table, and said "I can't believe it. I've been in
>business here for ten years, and this is the first
>time I've run out of rye bread!"
>Ritalin is a derivative of methamphetamine. Any grade-school chemist
>can see this plain as day. What seems to be the confusion?
You are an idiot. Post the synthesis by which Ritalin may be derived
from methamphetamine.
>Because you're in detox and in denial.
Call someone at random and with an official voice, rattle off this
warning:
"This is the telephone company calling. There may be some trouble
with your line. Please do not answer any calls for the next five
minutes or the person on the other end may be severely injured or
electrocuted. Thank you."
Hang up before they can interrupt. Then, wait about two minutes and
call them back. When they answer, just scream into the phone,
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!" just like you're being electrocuted and then
hang up.
It really can disturb some people and ruin their day. They just can't
stop wondering if they could have inadvertently killed someone.
The parrot grew to be bored shitless, his owner growing stale and not
developing any new tricks that the parrot could figure out.
One night in the middle of the magician's performance, the ship hit an
iceberg and sank. Everyone drowned except the magician and the parrot.
The magician managed to swim to a piece of wreckage and climb aboard,
immediately collapsing from exhaustion.
Soon afterward, the parrot flew to the magician and perched on the
edge of the makeshift raft and stared at the magician. And stared. And
stared.
For a whole day the magician was unconscious, and all this time the
parrot didn't take his eyes off him. Eventually the magician started
to stir. Looking up, he saw the parrot, still eyeing him intently, not
even blinking.
Another hour goes by, and finally the parrot squawks, "Awright, I give
up. What did you do with the goddamn ship?"
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:54:35 -0700, R.H. Imperial Governor Twatly K.
Cuntlerworth <twa...@bungmunch.com.nospam> wrote:
>Robert wrote:
>>
>> Top posting swine! Now you know the Rev will not approve, me shakes my
>> head.
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:39:33 -0600, "ralph v" <ral...@attcanada.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Is this a Top-Joke?!!!!
>
>Allah finds top-posting infidels an insult and worthy of eternal
>damnation.
>
>HTH HAND
>
>Praise Allah!
>
Sorry I asked ALL that.
>
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>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/25/01633.shtml
>
>Uncle Sam Now America's No. 1 Drug Pusher
supply and demand dumbass....
Again, LMAO. You obviously have no idea what either of those terms mean.
>
It proves something to me and to millions of other people. End of
discussion.
As I said in another thread, Ritalin helped me as a child also. I
absolutely don't advocate medicating children who should not be medicated.
However, the decision to medicate should be an option available to parents
and doctors, should they, and no one but they, determine it is an
appropriate course of treatment for a child. NOT teachers and school
administrators, ONLY parents and physicians.
==alexplore== <NoMoreDeathThreats@FromPsych-drug-addicts-please!> wrote in
message news:9c7o1b$c3$0...@pita.alt.net...
> Posted only in alt.support.attn-deficit by the Ritalin pusher...
>
> The asshole who pushes Ritalin for Kids says this in his own junkie
"mental
> health 'support' group".
>
> ============ start:
>
> Subject: I want a new drug...
>
> RJT <msw_i...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9c6rim$7c7$1...@news1.Radix.Net...
> > What ADD-related drugs are working for y'all out there? For the past
> > several years I've been taking a drug cocktail of an SSRI and Ritalin to
> > deal with ADD symptoms. For a while I took 40mg of Prozac and one 20
mg.
> > Ritalin SR every day, and that worked really well for a while, but after
a
> > few years I started experiencing diminishing effects from the Prozac so
I
> > switched to Zoloft. Zoloft was great at first -- it worked really well
in
> > combination with the Ritalin, but I had killer gastointestinal side
> effects
> > and it absolutely killed my libido. I've just transitioned off the
> > Zoloft/Ritalin combo and now I'm med-free, but it's apparent that I need
ROFLMAO...I didn't know anyone in 1970 who had a three-car carage or a new
SUV.
I'm sitting here with the popcorn.
This should be good.
>When geese fly south, why is one side of the V formation longer than
>the other?
>Because there is more geese on that side.
I always thought they flue in a V formation, so the goose infront
didn't shit on the one behide as they were going along.
>OK... maybe I'll get some Ritalin???
Or maybe you should get some cocaine, just tell 'em you're in the 5th
Grade and they'll give you as much as you want ;-)
>You know... saw this British thing --- one of the "Inspector Perot"
>series... he was after this scoundrel... of a Latin teacher :)
I think Perot is from Belgem, anyway, if he says"little gray cells"
one more time, i'll probably lose control and beat his skull in with
an axe !
( sorry, i haven't had my pills yet today )
>{{ psychiatrist Ingrid Eve Runden, MD - my wife at the time...
Was Eve Runden really your wife ?
Was she a shrink when you married her, or did she become one in later
life ( i find these are the worst kind )
Why on earth gave you the idea that we were rude?
It is "your kind" that is rude and vulger.
Have you ever heard one of *us* make a Death Threat?
> >Are you stupid, or merely another British subject?
>
> Actually i'm English, not British,
Nice one. I sometimes wish I was Welsh or Scottish or Irish but sadly
I too am English by birth :(
--
Dave Johnson
Tell me Andrei, do you type that with a straight face?
>
>Have you ever heard one of *us* make a Death Threat?
A little birdie told me that you stutter when you are confronted with
authority saying things you don't want to hear.
Have you stuttered much in recent weeks?
Yes? Or would you want to put a wager on it? Fedexed in advance to a
neutral non mentally defective third party.
Do you know anyone in the real world who would be neutral where you
are concerned? Tell us, who? Old employers, lawyers, government
officials, police, former co-workers, students...can you name even one
that doesn't think you are mentally ill?
I didn't think so.
But back to the stuttering. When did this first start? Let me share
something with you. When I was a teenager I often stuttered when I was
trying to talk to a pretty girl that I liked. So you don't have to be
embarrassed about stuttering.
I'm wondering though, why you started. That is, what started it? See,
this would help us understand the inner Andrew, find out what forces
have molded you, etc... Did you have a father who you saw as cruel and
distant...who you were afraid of...who you so much wanted to please
but never seemed to be able to get his approval? That's my best
guess...how was it really?
Was your father a good man, do you believe? Did he seem to favor your
older brother, or did he treat him the same?
And I have often wondered how much older your older brother is than
you. Was he a man when you were still a boy, or just a couple of years
older? It really and truly is a terrible, horrible thing that he
molested you. I can certainly see how this has contributed to who you
are today. And how extreme was it? I'm trying to get at the degree of
trauma you suffered here. Did he fellate you, or sodomise you? Did you
have to do those things to him? And did he force you, or did you
aquiese? Both are traumatic in their own way. Some might be more hurt
to the core by the guilt they feel over aquiesence...complicity...this
is a common thing for victims of sex crimes, I think. It is a rape of
the mind as well as body.
So are you basically scared of other people? Is that why you rampage
on line, to compensate for the feelings of weakness in real life?
So I wonder about these things, and I hope you will share a little
more of yourself with us.
>
>
That's where all good people are found.
I'm typical American Heinz57 - primarily Scots, Irish, & Cornish with a
bit of Cherokee (oh, alright, a bit of English, too) on my mom's side,
Welsh and Irish on my father's side.
--
Kitten
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I'm a bitch, I'm a lover; I'm a child, I'm a mother
I'm a sinner, I'm a saint; I do not feel ashamed
I'm your hell, I'm you dream; I'm nothing in between
You know you wouldn't want it any other way
-
- - Meredith Brooks
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Thanks Sue..Ive been reformatted etc and the engineer chose to put me in
Pacific Zone for reasons best known to himself !
Wouldnt mind being in Tijuana though!
regards,
Bob
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>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:19:47 -0700, "bobwhelan"
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>I admire Peter Breggin and his work but Ive never heard of Baughman..
He's a Breggin clown...sorry...clone.
>I
>suppose its too much to expect you to address the issues in a sane and
>rational way.
When bullshit is posted, why bother? However, if you want to show that
you are a fact based person, substantiate your claim in another
thread, where you think that the armed forces exclude people who had
been prescribed methylphenidate in the past. Use verifiable
references, preferably citing the applicate military regulations.
>What makes you feel you are fit to lick the boots of Professor Breggin?
I do not lie.
>When you have done something to make the world a better place you might have
>some credibility.
How do you know I haven't?
>Toddlers and children must be drugged for life because YOU say so?..I think
>not.
Now, where did I say that?
Why do all of you Bregginsitas "think" that because someone does not
mindlessly reject pharmacotherapy they think that way?
Is Dr. Breggin against critical reading and thinking? It certainly
seems that the Bregginistas are incapable of that.
>Nice one. I sometimes wish I was Welsh or Scottish or Irish but sadly
>I too am English by birth :(
why sadly ???
Breggin is an intellectually dishonest fraud who has made a nice
living playing to people's fears. He never lets facts stand in the way
of his arguments.
Huh?
I don't recall anyone having made a death threat against anyone.
.... and this is what you get:
Please report this annon.Child abuser/Child drugger to TX authorities!
goddess...@my-deja.com NOW <kit...@whitepine.com> fled across state
lines from AK to TX, to drug her Child against father's wishes. Real father
seeks custody!
Note in the photo, the "Prozakian eyes" of the insane. She also
pushes/"prescribes"/recomends drugging Children. See her posting history
under both e-mail addys in Google.
She is accompanied by current sex partner - also a "headcase."
Her photo below - pass along.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6082/KEN-ME94.JPG
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> Dave J.
Because he's not Ukrainian of course!
> Toddlers and children must be drugged for life because YOU say so?..I think
> not.
It could be argued the other way too. I wish my parents had got me some
medication when I was a kid, then maybe I wouldn't be so F*ckd up today.
> >What makes you feel you are fit to lick the boots of Professor Breggin?
>
> I do not lie.
>
Thats a hell of a claim!
Isnt that what George Washington said?
Im not aware that Professor Breggin does either.
> >When you have done something to make the world a better place you might
have
> >some credibility.
>
> How do you know I haven't?
>
Valid point..me being pompous..
> >Toddlers and children must be drugged for life because YOU say so?..I
think
> >not.
>
> Now, where did I say that?
>
I dont know that you did..a hangover from a previous
debate about the neccessity for bipolars to be drugged with Lithium salts
for life.
When you are being bombarded with threats and insane allegations its easy to
see critics as a generalised other.
> Why do all of you Bregginsitas "think" that because someone does not
> mindlessly reject pharmacotherapy they think that way?
>
I dont know that Im a Bregginista but maybe a similar dynamic to biological
reductionists thinking that anyone who champions human agency and
responsibility must be a scientologist or some sort of freak. :-)
> Is Dr. Breggin against critical reading and thinking? It certainly
> seems that the Bregginistas are incapable of that.
>
>
On the contrary..he champions informed consent and for people to know what
the side effects of medications are.
I somehow have gained the impression that you mindlessly
toe the party line and regurgitate the pharmaceutical companies PR and
"research"
When a point is made it always seems to degenerate into ad hominem arguments
and straightforward abuse.
There"s a hell of a paper for someone on the psychodynamics of usenet mental
health groups.
As a relative newcomer it seems more like psychological warfare than
support.
People perhaps should be careful not to throw the baby out with the
bathwater.
The potential is awesome but it always gets petty and personal.
And its so easy to get sucked into that and become your enemy.
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