Hey Marky Poo
DaKitty
I'm looking at it, fishnets? Gray sideburns, Gay goat-tee?
Baby blue dusting feathers?
And the facial hair, I never understood why a guy would grow a beard that
would make his mouth look like a pussy.
You look like you're in your late 40's... By the maturity of your posts and
flames and grudges I thought you were in your late 20's
WOW
You could be my dad.
Ewwwwwww.
DaKitty
"RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| In article <4ggaa.307$Y12.33...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
that skirt and a garter looks good on you.
DaKitty
"Heather" <sp...@menot.com> wrote in message
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| In article <VEgaa.5516985$6N5.7...@post-03.news.easynews.com>,
| RGB's Neighbot <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote:
|
| > In article <4ggaa.307$Y12.33...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
| > "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
| >
| > > Ewwwwwww.
| >
|
I guess you'd know what it looks like when your dad is a French maid, huh,
heather?
Or, do you even know who your daddy is?
Oh, I forget, your family shut you out.
Hmmm, maybe they saw what I see?
DaKitty
"Clockwork Orange" <td...@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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| On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 06:41:04 GMT, as I was young and easy under the
| apple boughs, "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
| >Someone emailed me your pic for my wiki web
| >
| >I'm looking at it, fishnets? Gray sideburns, Gay goat-tee?
| >Baby blue dusting feathers?
|
relax, it's a typo, Gray goat -tee. Didn't you see the first few words, GRAY
sideburns, G*R*AY goat-tee?
Nothing to do with Gay. Geez, of all people you should know where I stand
with that. Are you falling for the mob crap about how bad I am here?
DaKitty
"Courage" <coura...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Clockwork Orange <td...@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
|
| >On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 06:41:04 GMT, as I was young and easy under the
| >apple boughs, "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
| >
| >>
| >>I'm looking at it, fishnets? Gray sideburns, Gay goat-tee?
| >>Baby blue dusting feathers?
| >
| >
| >why not call him 'nigger' or 'kike' or whatever? why not decide that
| >it is an insult to imply that someone is black when they are not?
| >
| >and don't tell me that it's a flame group. it's still wrong. it's as
| >wrong as those fucking Holocaust jokes. i don't care what you think
| >of each other.
| >
| >i kind of take it as a personal insult from people who really know
| >better.
|
| To do her some minimal justice, I assumed it was a typo. At least I
| hope it was. In any case, The Neighbot has a salt and pepper beard to
| die for.
|
Exactly, it's a typo.
Having IM's with TD, he should know I mike a five million typo's and that
one unfortunately got by the spell-checker.
DaKitty
"RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| In article <pr6j6vgu6sjfvpvcp...@4ax.com>,
| Clockwork Orange <td...@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
|
| > >To do her some minimal justice, I assumed it was a typo. At least I
| > >hope it was. In any case, The Neighbot has a salt and pepper beard to
| > >die for.
| >
| > happened. and actually, while the comment was directed at her, she is
| > certainly not the only person to do it. i mean, you hear it every
| > day, don't you? just some people really do know better.
|
| Not to try to inflame you, Ted, but it didn't occur to me that it might
| have been a typo and I still don't think it was. It's a fairly classic
| sort of insult; I've been called "gay looking" before, for some reason.
Unfortunately, marky-poo, that would be a negative.
Most of the gay men I have seen are stunningly gorgeous men that I can only
weep they don't like girls (and that includes Ted's appearance), you marky
poo on the other hand are a sad, sourpuss looking out of shape middle-aged
male.
And the least attractive thing about you is your aura.
You don't come even close to being called gay, you'd be an insult to gay's.
And yes, that's exactly what you're doing, you're trying to inflame Ted, and
pull him to your side. To bad you see it as an insult to be called gay, as
you say here. Need help extracting your foot out of that pussy-mouth of
yours?
DaKitty
| On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 07:32:25 GMT, as I was young and easy under the
| apple boughs, RGB's Neighbot <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote:
|
| >In article <pr6j6vgu6sjfvpvcp...@4ax.com>,
| > Clockwork Orange <td...@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
| >
| >> >To do her some minimal justice, I assumed it was a typo. At least I
| >> >hope it was. In any case, The Neighbot has a salt and pepper beard to
| >> >die for.
| >>
| >> well, fair enough. though it would not be the first time it has
| >> happened. and actually, while the comment was directed at her, she is
| >> certainly not the only person to do it. i mean, you hear it every
| >> day, don't you? just some people really do know better.
| >
| >Not to try to inflame you, Ted, but it didn't occur to me that it might
| >have been a typo and I still don't think it was. It's a fairly classic
| >sort of insult; I've been called "gay looking" before, for some reason.
|
| the benefit of the doubt.
|
| "gay looking." that really makes me laugh. Rock Hudson - Richard
| Chamberlain - Sir Ian McKellan. did/do they look gay? what do gay
| people look like? Rupert Everett? Michael T Weiss?
|
| hell. true or not, it's a compliment, isn't it?
I cried for days when I found out Freddie Mercury was gay, I had a crush on
him since I was about 12. But then I heard that maybe he was a bi, and I was
happy again. When I was a teenager I thought he was the most gorgeous
masculine makes your knees weak thing I have ever seen.
DaKitty
"RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| In article <bd8j6v8semmmla6k1...@4ax.com>,
| Clockwork Orange <td...@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
|
| > hell. true or not, it's a compliment, isn't it?
|
sorry, I called you gray, not gay.
But true, had I called you gay, it would have been a compliment, but, you
don't qualify.
DaKitty
| In article <uzhaa.325$qk2.34...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,| My father died when I was 12.
Ah, men drop dead around you early, don't they?
Maybe that's the apology you're looking for, your daddy left you.
Outsider
outsider
Clockwork Orange wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 07:32:25 GMT, as I was young and easy under the
> apple boughs, RGB's Neighbot <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <pr6j6vgu6sjfvpvcp...@4ax.com>,
>>Clockwork Orange <td...@NOSPAMtampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>To do her some minimal justice, I assumed it was a typo. At least I
>>>>hope it was. In any case, The Neighbot has a salt and pepper beard to
>>>>die for.
>>>
>>>well, fair enough. though it would not be the first time it has
>>>happened. and actually, while the comment was directed at her, she is
>>>certainly not the only person to do it. i mean, you hear it every
>>>day, don't you? just some people really do know better.
>>
>>Not to try to inflame you, Ted, but it didn't occur to me that it might
>>have been a typo and I still don't think it was. It's a fairly classic
>>sort of insult; I've been called "gay looking" before, for some reason.
>
>
> yeah, well that was kind of my take on it too, but i'm willing to give
> the benefit of the doubt.
>
> "gay looking." that really makes me laugh. Rock Hudson - Richard
> Chamberlain - Sir Ian McKellan. did/do they look gay? what do gay
> people look like? Rupert Everett? Michael T Weiss?
>
> hell. true or not, it's a compliment, isn't it?
>
>
> td
DaKitty
| In article <qMhaa.331$ck2.34...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
Good, does that mean you'll stay away from me?
Or do I need to make a wiki with your picture on it before you do?
Mark says there's nothing wrong with taking someone's picture and doctoring
it up, so I think I'll do yours first. I have just the thing.
Maybe I'll make a little flash game out of it, so Dave has something to play
with.
DaKitty
"RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| In article <qMhaa.331$ck2.34...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
| >
| > Ah, men drop dead around you early, don't they?
|
I'm trying to live up to your wiki
At least I have the, ahem (pun intended), courage to say thing to your
stinky faces, I don't have to hide and mock you behind your back.
Or do good people like you mock others only behind their back?
I know, that's my problem, I should be all nice to you here, and then
ridicule you behind your back, like some of you do to each other.
And I see you made it a point to crosspost this so Tara would see it, here,
let me include the links to your wiki, so she can see the good people like
you putting together a website mocking other people.
I'm sure she'll be impressed with her friend philippa spending most of last
month prettying up the Connie mocking page:
http://theneighbot.dyn.dhs.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConniesCookies
I know, you think I deserve it, but regardless, nice people like you,
courage, philippa heather and others should be above that. Doing this kind
of crap makes you no better than me. Makes you even worse. At least I didn't
go building webpages to mock people I don't like.
Not to mention, that good people like you, marky poo, don't crosspost
either. Be careful, cause Heather, the netiquette cop will chew you out for
crossposting, just like she does me.
Oh, no wait, she doesn't mind it when her friends do it. She only singles
out some people, those she likes the most.
For a middle aged guy, you're truly sad. You're letting some bimbo that's
barely 30 get this much of a rise out of you. Out of control much?
DaKitty
"|||| || | ||||| ||||||||" <bah...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 02:32:49 -0600, Heather <sp...@menot.com> wrote:
|
| Killfile Heather killfile. It's the only way.
|
If she did that, than she'd have to go to the wiki page, and update the
Connie's cookies. She can't stay away, no matter what.
They killfile me, then they go and build me a shrine.
Is that sad, or what????
Even *I* don't do that.
~Kenster~
<bah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 02:32:49 -0600, Heather <sp...@menot.com> wrote:
>
>Killfile Heather killfile. It's the only way.
>
>
Yeah, but do it right after you tell her she's worth 1,000 dog turds.
Some people are too big for their keyboards and hide behind them when
they have something to say to a schizophenic. Ol' barcode is such a
brave talker and hider.
Kenster
erminia
conn...@cb-design.net wrote on 3/8/03 6:26 AM:
heh.
no, i don't see any rhyme or reason to that bit either, the building of a
specific site for the mocking of someone on ASD/F, of all places.
but then, my new project of getting a Real Life takes up most of my time
these days.
:)
Gayle
> <everything snipped>
>
> This constant fighting is really sad for me. It is going way over the top,
> in my opinion, to the point where real damage can occur, and has occurred.
> The fact is, not one of us here is lily white; we've all done things that
> would be considered more than suspect IRL. I've gone back into the google
> archives to try to get a clue as to why people are so vengeful and hurtful,
Beyond the google archives, old coyote, don't you think that the whole of
human history is full of clues for why people are so vengeful and hurtful.
Maybe it's in our human nature --- as you say, none of us are lily white, none
of us have clean hands.
>
> and I have to say that I understand. I'm not sure how I would react, hell,
> I'd probably be in the thick of things, at least in my own mind and world
> (where I spend the majority of my time, ta-pocketa ta-pocketa ta-pocketa).
What does ta-poketa mean? And, since I live in my head, too, I feel in the
thick of things that I'm thinking about, whether I'm speaking out loud, or
not.
>
>
> However, I think that we need to understand, here of all places, that most
> of us, if not all of us, are very vulnerable at aome times. On the flip-
> side of that coin, I also think that we need to recognize that it is the
> illness that causes people to do those suspect things from time to time.
> I'm not saying that one needs to kiss and make up, nor forget, because we
> can't, but maybe a little more tolerance is in order? I don't know... and
> I certainly don't want to lecture anyone because a lot of you have been
> here way more consistantly than I have, and have been involved in those
> very damaging threads, so who the hell am I to say?
Usenet is a wild place. I love the anarchy --- and I mean anarchy in it's
truest sense which is when a community finds a way to govern itself in the
absence of a governing body. A group setting standards for the group through
its interaction. Usenet isn't a safe place, but it can be a Good Place to
learn more about human nature.
>
>
> Just a thought of caution - words are very powerful things, I think even
> more so in this medium of unbridled, wide-open, idea exchange without
> almost any threat of personal consequences or retribution. Maybe just take
> an extra moment before responding with raw emotions. As I said, we are all
> very much vulnerable at some times, and we are all somewhat unstable at
> times, some more than others.
Words have incredible power. Yours move me, always.
Gayle
>
>
> Flame me hard if you must.
> I just felt the need to say something from my
> perspective. :(
>
> --
> -=oc=-
Courage
>old coyote wrote:
>> and I have to say that I understand. I'm not sure how I would react, hell,
>> I'd probably be in the thick of things, at least in my own mind and world
>> (where I spend the majority of my time, ta-pocketa ta-pocketa ta-pocketa).
>
>What does ta-poketa mean? And, since I live in my head, too, I feel in the
>thick of things that I'm thinking about, whether I'm speaking out loud, or
>not.
It's a reference to a wonderful story by James Thurber.
Gayle
> Gayle <gay...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
> >What does ta-poketa mean? And, since I live in my head, too, I feel in the
> >thick of things that I'm thinking about, whether I'm speaking out loud, or
> >not.
>
> It's a reference to a wonderful story by James Thurber.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/6821/thurber.html
Wonderful, indeed. Thanks, Courage
Courage
My folks had all the Thurber collections when I was growing up. They
are part of the family language. We read the Walter Mitty story in
school and I remember being so surprised that it wasn't just ours.
Gayle
> Gayle <gay...@rcn.com> wrote in news:3E6A4176...@rcn.com:
>
>
> I have to agree with your assessment of the human condition. I was
> speaking more of the microcosm that is ASD, and the unstable people (myself
> included) who come here for support.
Didn't mean to go macro on ya. It's just that people are the same, wherever
you go, sooner or later, imo. But, maybe this is also a good place to learn
how to give and attract support in environments in which fighting does occur.
Which is everywhere, really. But, here, no one has to read the words with the
power to damage. No one has to respond.
(snip)
>
> You're right on all counts here. Just one caveat though, and it's probably
> an expectation that cannot be met on my part, but I always viewed ASD as a
> refuge from IRL, and I yearn for that. It is not a stretch when I say that
> this place has saved my life on numerous occassions, and as such, I hold it
> in extremely high regard.
Please understand that I'm not trying to minimize the sorrow you expressed. It
sounded like a prayer, in fact. I suspect that, because you honor this place,
it could offer you the refuge you desire.
(snip)
>
> > Words have incredible power. Yours move me, always.
> >
> > Gayle
> >
> Thank you Gayle. I have tremendously low self-esteem and I never think
> that what I say amounts to anything.
Reading this makes me feel sadder than when I read the fighting posts.
> It takes a great deal of courage for
> me to write and post and open inner-self to others. Ta-pocketa ta-pocketa
> ta-pocketa.
Yes, indeedy.
Gayle
>
>
Courage
>>terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
>>> >Heather wrote:
>I'm not trying to be the bigger person Heather. I'm voicing my opinions.
>
>>> >But it's okay for you to snicker about the ASD Webby's page and some
>>> >alleged newsletter, right?
>>>
>>> Did you hear me snickering?
>>
>>You sure did about the Web site.
>
>Did you hear me snicker?
Yes. You mentioned in several posts about how funny you thought the
Webby page was.
minxvox
>as is your page on
>Deminii
*I* created the page on that rageful and oh-so-mockworthy woman, so
don't go blaming Mark for that. Okay, he contributed the cool pix, and
someone else added a few seminars at the end, but that was entirely
me.
And I'll tell you why I did it too. Because I'm sick of crying every
time someone does something shitty to me on this fucking group. I
decided to actively ridicule a person I think is a real asshole, and
you know what? I feel fine about it. Just fucking fine. One of the few
times I actually flamed the shit out of somebody in the five years
I've been here. Well deserved, too.
I also contributed something nice to the Wiki, and will continue to do
things in that vein. But when someone says evil things about whomever
they choose, in defense of someone who has said unfuckingbelievably
vile things to me and to others here, I don't have to take that. I'm
sorry Mark is catching shit from you (quelle surprise) for my fun. I'm
going to ask him to pull it, since I don't want to hear your
self-righteous mouth or anyone else's. He doesn't need that shit,
considering he is doing a service to those of us who are trying to
avoid the sick fucks in this community, and feel we have nowhere to
write or share wi thout getting attacked, killfiles in place or not.
Outsider
RGB's Neighbot wrote:
> In article <BA8F7E3A.4E538%ermi...@earthlink.net>,
> erminia <ermi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>the building of a specific site for the mocking of someone
>
>
> Well, this is not exactly accurate.
>
> First of all, the "Grove" has two main sections, the wiki and Loosed in
> Space, and the latter is totally benign and positive (and well worth
> visiting, if you haven't seen it).
>
> As for the wiki, I started it to be, and my main hope for it is still
> for it to be a niftyoid collaborative thing where people would put all
> kinds of kewl and primarily non-flamey stuff. And there *is* a lot of
> kewl non-flamey stuff there now, and I look forward to more.
>
> Then, OK, yeah, I did start the "ConniesCookies" page in reaction to
for those that followed a few flame wars about thorazine cookie
that someone wanted to give connie can easliy presume that "its" all
about her.
> that inane ISP complaint business, and yeah, it does have her first name
> in it, but you know? That particular page doesn't have a fucking thing
> to do with anything about her, really. It's about plutonium and
> Thorazine and other stuff you probably don't want in your cookies. The
> only thing is was intended to mock was the cookie business, and that
> still strikes me as extremely mockworthy.
>
> So, there you have a somewhat fuller picture. Hope this helps.
>
Outsider
Heather wrote:
> In article <20030308141402...@mb-fc.aol.com>,
> terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
>
>
>>As soon as one party stops the bickering and
>>fighting,
>>you or Heather start it back up.
>
>
> *ahem* You leaped out of nowhere and started it this time, sugarplum.
> You can't even fall back on that well-worn excuse that we invoked your
> presence by talking about you.
>
>
>>It's who *YOU* chose is deserving of your mocking.
>
>
> But it's okay for you to snicker about the ASD Webby's page and some
> alleged newsletter, right?
>
> Just because Mark is hosting the site, doesn't make him responsible for
> all the content.
hes hosting it so he should be held responseable for what is being
posted and added to the wikki site.
outsider
Outsider
minxvox wrote:
> On 08 Mar 2003 19:14:02 GMT, terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
>
>
>>as is your page on
>>Deminii
>
>
> *I* created the page on that rageful and oh-so-mockworthy woman, so
> don't go blaming Mark for that. Okay, he contributed the cool pix, and
> someone else added a few seminars at the end, but that was entirely
> me.
>
mark is still partly to blame, he has the editing power to remove
certain things whether he created it or if someone else did.
minxvox
>In article <b4dlql$1u1qfi$1...@ID-72596.news.dfncis.de>,
> "Dr. Siddhartha Vicious" <bok...@ptsi.net> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive:yes
>>
>> "minxvox" <min...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:6tlk6v8mlag5iu014...@4ax.com...
>> I'm
>> > going to ask him to pull it, since I don't want to hear your
>> > self-righteous mouth or anyone else's.
>>
>> No need to pull that one Minx. This is definitely selfish of me: it provided
>> me w/a much needed laugh on a really fucked-up day.
>
>I second that emotion.
>
>You know, sometimes when people reach the end of their rope in
>frustration with people who are vicious and unreachable, the only way to
>rid yourself of the anger is to joke about the way they act. I notice
>this dynamic on ASD/F after a particulary vicious flame war. Someone
>finds a glimmer of humour in something that has been said and people
>join in and start to feel better.
>
>Isn't that the purpose of satire and parody? Admittedly, the subject of
>it is not going to be too happy about it. Frankly, in the case of the
>Dimbot and Connie, I don't really care. They've both shown themselves to
>repeatedly go "Beyond the Realm of Decency". (I'll claim the credit for
>that seminar topic.) If they don't like their vicious, cruel behaviour
>mocked, then maybe they should give some thought to why people felt the
>need to do it. (fat chance)
>
I couldn't let go of the whole stupid shit with Connie. I was
thisclose to posting a link to my brother's picture, in a post that
said: Here's the dead kid you don't give a shit about, you
[expletive].
And yeah, I wanted to cry into my pillow like the puss I am over the
mean shit The Other Bot said, but then I thought, why bother with any
of this. Yeah, all the nice placid mature advice in the world about
disengaging, but I've seen people lose their shit plenty of times when
hurt on this group, and not be able to disengage, so right now I can't
do that. I'm depressed and my eating disorder is biting the shit out
of me and I'm all wobbily in my life, and I just need to GET THIS SHIT
OUT. But not let it get to me so bad that I sulk and freak and think
about the group 24 hours a day.
So I created that page and got back to working my new job and dealing
with my nongroup related troubles.
Good enough.
minxvox
wrote:
>mark is still partly to blame, he has the editing power to remove
>certain things whether he created it or if someone else did.
He is NOT to blame. It's like blaming Usenet. The concept of a Wiki is
anarchy based, or if you want a nicer term, freedom based.
And in case you hadn't noticed, some of us think the morally
bankrupt--who have put themselves on those steppes through their very
own disgusting actions--deserve the satire.
Outsider
Heather wrote:
> In article <3E6A592E...@cloneshaw.ca>,
> Outsider <blac...@cloneshaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>>hes hosting it so he should be held responseable for what is being
>>posted and added to the wikki site.
>
>
> So if someone uploads a pornographic picture and he deletes it right
> away but someone else sees it before he does, is he responsible?
i'd have to say yes, if be no different really if someone had access to
my website and uploaded a porn pic, someone sees it before i get a
chance to delete it....tripod (my website host) gets an e-mail
about a porn pic on my site,they check it out and if its still there
there goes my website being cancelled by tripod.
Luna
<snip>
| >
|
|
| I couldn't let go of the whole stupid shit with Connie. I was
| thisclose to posting a link to my brother's picture, in a post that
| said: Here's the dead kid you don't give a shit about, you
| [expletive].
It's grief forged into a shiny pointy weapon. It's hard for me to express other than
theoretically (because I'm not really quite sure) why someone like me can read crap from
crappers and it has no effect on me at all. This is a hard won ability and I don't know
when or why or how it took hold, but I am so grateful for it. The best and only effective
weapon to the low blow is amused indifference.
I remember once being flamed by someone who made their reply to email address
han...@intheshower.net or something like that. I remember reading it and having no
reaction, sort of surprised myself.
So much of change involves invisible increments. We aren't aware of it happening until
one day we notice, almost as an aside, a kind of "wow, that's different" moment.
|
| And yeah, I wanted to cry into my pillow like the puss I am over the
| mean shit The Other Bot said, but then I thought, why bother with any
| of this. Yeah, all the nice placid mature advice in the world about
| disengaging, but I've seen people lose their shit plenty of times when
| hurt on this group, and not be able to disengage, so right now I can't
| do that. I'm depressed and my eating disorder is biting the shit out
| of me and I'm all wobbily in my life, and I just need to GET THIS SHIT
| OUT. But not let it get to me so bad that I sulk and freak and think
| about the group 24 hours a day.
The DimBot is just some fucked up woman somewhere doing something that she really believes
is the "right thing". She's a mess. She's rife with some pretty malignant personality
disorder and in a way, it's sad; mainly for her.
|
| So I created that page and got back to working my new job and dealing
| with my nongroup related troubles.
It's hilarious, minx. I loved it. :)
jean
|
| Good enough.
Luna
"Outsider" <blac...@cloneshaw.ca> wrote in message news:3E6A5DC5...@cloneshaw.ca...
|
|
| minxvox wrote:
| > On 08 Mar 2003 19:14:02 GMT, terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
| >
| >
| >>as is your page on
| >>Deminii
| >
| >
| > *I* created the page on that rageful and oh-so-mockworthy woman, so
| > don't go blaming Mark for that. Okay, he contributed the cool pix, and
| > someone else added a few seminars at the end, but that was entirely
| > me.
| >
| mark is still partly to blame, he has the editing power to remove
| certain things whether he created it or if someone else did.
Do you have any personality at all? Is Connie your mommy?
jean
Kirby Cook
> <everything snipped>
>
> This constant fighting is really sad for me. It is going way over the top,
> in my opinion, to the point where real damage can occur, and has occurred.
> The fact is, not one of us here is lily white; we've all done things that
> would be considered more than suspect IRL. I've gone back into the google
> archives to try to get a clue as to why people are so vengeful and hurtful,
> I'd probably be in the thick of things, at least in my own mind and world
> (where I spend the majority of my time, ta-pocketa ta-pocketa ta-pocketa).
>
> of us, if not all of us, are very vulnerable at aome times. On the flip-
> side of that coin, I also think that we need to recognize that it is the
> illness that causes people to do those suspect things from time to time.
> I'm not saying that one needs to kiss and make up, nor forget, because we
> can't, but maybe a little more tolerance is in order? I don't know... and
> I certainly don't want to lecture anyone because a lot of you have been
> here way more consistantly than I have, and have been involved in those
> very damaging threads, so who the hell am I to say?
>
> more so in this medium of unbridled, wide-open, idea exchange without
> almost any threat of personal consequences or retribution. Maybe just take
> an extra moment before responding with raw emotions. As I said, we are all
> very much vulnerable at some times, and we are all somewhat unstable at
> times, some more than others.
>
> perspective. :(
>
Thank you, Mitty. The patient's body was tearing itself apart. The
steady ta-pocketa-poketa-poketa of the poisoned life-blood pump was
about to drive *me* mad! It was nothing short of miraculous how you
appeared from nowhere (or Texas) and, with one supremely deft pinch,
paused the flow for just that instant necessary for the mind to take
hold and, aided by the giant, humming bank of neurocatalytic cleansers,
resume normal operations! Astounding, sir!
It is left to one of the lesser minds to conclude, as the crisis fades
from memory, "*I* think they should kiss and make up!"
Kirby
minxvox
a little less than fun. I appreciate your words very much, though.
Coming from you especially.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:40:38 -0500, "Luna" <jean_c...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>"minxvox" <min...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:3gnk6v8gqdug786gi...@4ax.com...
>| I couldn't let go of the whole stupid shit with Connie. I was
>| thisclose to posting a link to my brother's picture, in a post that
>| said: Here's the dead kid you don't give a shit about, you
>| [expletive].
>
>It's grief forged into a shiny pointy weapon. It's hard for me to express other than
>theoretically (because I'm not really quite sure) why someone like me can read crap from
>crappers and it has no effect on me at all. This is a hard won ability and I don't know
>when or why or how it took hold, but I am so grateful for it. The best and only effective
>weapon to the low blow is amused indifference.
>
>I remember once being flamed by someone who made their reply to email address
>han...@intheshower.net or something like that. I remember reading it and having no
>reaction, sort of surprised myself.
>
>So much of change involves invisible increments. We aren't aware of it happening until
>one day we notice, almost as an aside, a kind of "wow, that's different" moment.
Very true. I'm not sure I'll ever be like you. It's part of what fuels
who I am on lots of levels. The "it" being the ability to be struck.
You have no idea how much I've worked on this, and how much better I
am! Oy. You can only imagine, eh?
Hee. That "eh?" is so totally from you. I think I only *use* it with
you now!
Anyway. If I dare to call myself an artists sometimes, and today I
dare, part of my urgent need to write and tell stories comes from this
place of ongoing memory of pain. I don't necessarily mean being an
open wound, which is sucky and not fun to be around and in real life I
really am not like that. You can even ask any of the ASDers who've met
me! But it's so built into me to have that pool of feeling and memory,
that I've reached the age I am, and it's never entirely dried up.
I try to find a balance. To be open to great feeling but to not let
everyone splash in my pool, leaving behind toxic chemicals that slowly
make me die. Words have power as OC wrote, and words have made me want
to die, and that I can't have, and I need to aspire more to where you
are. I just need to work with who I am too. Cause this is it, baby.
>The DimBot is just some fucked up woman somewhere doing something that she really believes
>is the "right thing". She's a mess. She's rife with some pretty malignant personality
>disorder and in a way, it's sad; mainly for her.
I know you know more than I do. I have zero sadness in my heart for
her, but since I trust you, I will summon some up.
There.
Heh, not really, but I'll try. I do have her eliminated from view now,
so that will make sympathy a fuck of a lot easier. That and :
>It's hilarious, minx. I loved it. :)
Making you laugh makes me closer to the God I don't believe in!
xo!
minxvox
<thene...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>In article <3gnk6v8gqdug786gi...@4ax.com>,
> minxvox <min...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I couldn't let go of the whole stupid shit with Connie. I was
>> thisclose to posting a link to my brother's picture, in a post that
>> said: Here's the dead kid you don't give a shit about, you
>> [expletive].
>
>That's why I googled up that story about my "rape by chemical restraint"
>and reposted it. I didn't want the utter, mind-boggling scumminess of
>her taunts (which, BTW, Eto seconded last time around) to pass with only
>me and a few others knowing what she was talking about.
I think this is what really gets to me, what makes it hard to let some
things pass by without comment. People may very wisely say "Let it go"
or not-so-wisely cluck-cluck about ongoing fueds, but it's these kinds
of actions that I want to hold up and say, "See what this person has
done? And this can happen to you too if you cross them, so no man is
an island, baby!"
I know people decide for themselves what to do, how to think, all that
shit. But it truly hurts me inside to see what happened to you
mocked--as well as disgusts and appalls me--and still have the person
who did the mocking blithely reinventing history.
Oh, it's all a waste of time, you and I know it is. Let's go ride
bikes and eat burritos, ala one of your finer googled posts!!
minxvox
Thanks for the polite acknowledgement. I do appreciate it.
minx
Gayle
>
>
> I think this is what really gets to me, what makes it hard to let some
> things pass by without comment. People may very wisely say "Let it go"
> or not-so-wisely cluck-cluck about ongoing fueds, but it's these kinds
> of actions that I want to hold up and say, "See what this person has
> done? And this can happen to you too if you cross them, so no man is
> an island, baby!"
>
> I know people decide for themselves what to do, how to think, all that
> shit. But it truly hurts me inside to see what happened to you
> mocked--as well as disgusts and appalls me--and still have the person
> who did the mocking blithely reinventing history.
>
> Oh, it's all a waste of time, you and I know it is. Let's go ride
> bikes and eat burritos, ala one of your finer googled posts!!
Maybe it's not a waste of time. Maybe it's good, sometimes, to stand up and
communicate, in no uncertain terms, that there are lines that cannot be
crossed without consequence. I sure think it's a good thing sometimes.
Here's a quote I use sometimes to remind me that sometimes expressed anger,
in any of its forms, isn't a waste of time:
Good people have to be willing to fight for what they believe in. Otherwise,
they're not really good people, they're just nice people.
fwiw,
Gayle
DaKitty
"old coyote" <the_ol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns933875586...@130.133.1.4...
| <everything snipped>
|
| This constant fighting is really sad for me. It is going way over the
top,
| in my opinion, to the point where real damage can occur, and has occurred.
| The fact is, not one of us here is lily white;
Thank You!
And I mean it! :)
DaKitty
"Heather" <sp...@menot.com> wrote in message
news:w0qaa.60241$7_.2...@news1.mts.net...
| In article <N0kaa.429$Qf3...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
| > "RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
| > news:B1iaa.5521442$6N5.7...@post-03.news.easynews.com...
| > | In article <qMhaa.331$ck2.34...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
| > | "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
| > |
| > | > | My father died when I was 12.
| > | >
| > | > Ah, men drop dead around you early, don't they?
| > |
| > | "Connie is good people."
|
here,
| > let me include the links to your wiki, so she can see the good people
like
| > you putting together a website mocking other people.
|
|
| > At least I didn't go building webpages to mock people I don't like.
|
prove it, dumbo.
And my saying, maybe I'll do the same isn't the proof.
Besides, since it's ok for you to do it, then it's ok for me too.
After all, you're the first one to do it to me.
Nah, I'll be the bigger person here, you're not worth the effort.
DaKitty
| In article <Xns933875586...@130.133.1.4>,
| old coyote <the_ol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
|
| > Just a thought of caution - words are very powerful things, I think even
| > more so in this medium of unbridled, wide-open, idea exchange without
| > almost any threat of personal consequences or retribution. Maybe just
take
| > an extra moment before responding with raw emotions. As I said, we are
all
| > very much vulnerable at some times, and we are all somewhat unstable at
| > times, some more than others.
| >
| > Flame me hard if you must. I just felt the need to say something from
my
| > perspective. :(
|
does that mean you'll stop snipping at me, following me around, and take
certain content off your website.
You know, the way "good people" like you would?
DaKitty
"erminia" <ermi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BA8F7E3A.4E538%ermi...@earthlink.net...
Yea, I spend plenty of time in here. I say my piece, and go on.
What I find extra pathetic, that a lot of 'updates' were made while certain
people were supposedly 'ignoring' me. It's a laugh!!!
DaKitty
|
|
| First of all, the "Grove" has two main sections, the wiki and Loosed in
| Space, and the latter is totally benign and positive (and well worth
| visiting, if you haven't seen it).
|
| As for the wiki, I started it to be, and my main hope for it is still
| for it to be a niftyoid collaborative thing where people would put all
| kinds of kewl and primarily non-flamey stuff. And there *is* a lot of
| kewl non-flamey stuff there now, and I look forward to more.
|
| Then, OK, yeah, I did start the "ConniesCookies" page in reaction to
| in it, but you know? That particular page doesn't have a fucking thing
| to do with anything about her, really. It's about plutonium and
| Thorazine and other stuff you probably don't want in your cookies. The
| only thing is was intended to mock was the cookie business, and that
| still strikes me as extremely mockworthy.
That's a big fat lie if I've ever heard one.
It's just a coincidence that Connie on your webpage is also referred to as
Kitty. You really think people are stupid, don't you?
DaKitty
"Marybeth" <terr...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030308141402...@mb-fc.aol.com...
| x-no-archive:yes
|
| Let's attempt a serious discussion
|
| >RGB's Neighbot wrote:
|
| > erminia <ermi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
| >
| >> the building of a specific site for the mocking of someone
|
| >Well, this is not exactly accurate.
|
nifty
| things in it. I don't think anyone would have any objections to that. I
believe
| that wasn't your first intentions.
|
| >First of all, the "Grove" has two main sections, the wiki and Loosed in
| >Space, and the latter is totally benign and positive (and well worth
| >visiting, if you haven't seen it).
|
| site. The picture site has some beautiful pictures on it of various places
that
| people have shared, places they found to be content and peaceful.
|
| >As for the wiki, I started it to be, and my main hope for it is still
| >for it to be a niftyoid collaborative thing where people would put all
| >kinds of kewl and primarily non-flamey stuff. And there *is* a lot of
| >kewl non-flamey stuff there now, and I look forward to more.
|
something
| different? Why couldn't you have kept it to be what you orginally started
out
| for it to become?
|
| >Then, OK, yeah, I did start the "ConniesCookies" page in reaction
|
picture you
| took off the ASD picture page and changed it.
|
| See, this is where things changed.
| You are intelligent enough to know that this is mocking people out. You
know
| that this is using the pictures of the ASD picture page, a place where
people
| put their pictures to share. *I* (I'm only speaking for myself) feel that
you
| shouldn't be taking pictures off this site. You know it has angered people
in
| the past, yet you chose to do it again. You also took postings off the
group
| because you think you're funny. Guess what? Not everyone thinks you're
funny
| and you do it to purposefully ignite tempers and harsh past feelings. This
has
| been ongoing for years. As soon as one party stops the bickering and
fighting,
| you or Heather start it back up. But again, you are intelligent enough to
know
| that it WILL make people angry. You knew how ticked off I was when you
made
| that little piece of my flame post to Heather, so you turn around and do
it
| again. You don't ever want the fighting to stop, do you?
|
| >to
| >that inane ISP complaint business, and yeah, it does have her first name
| >in it, but you know?
|
|
| >That particular page doesn't have a fucking thing
| >to do with anything about her
|
put
| her down.
| As is the picture of Steve, as is my post you put on there, as is your
page on
| Deminii. It's who *YOU* chose is deserving of your mocking.
|
| >The
| >only thing is was intended to mock was the cookie business, and that
| >still strikes me as extremely mockworthy.
|
else
| found thngs you had to say or Courage or Heather or Phillipa, they have
the
| right to do the same thing, right? Because this is what you are saying. If
I
| find you to be "mockworthy" in my book, I can do the same. If *I* think
you
| have been a bad boy in the group, I can take your picture and change it to
mock
| you out. Do I have this right?
|
| >So, there you have a somewhat fuller picture. Hope this helps.
|
|
| Mary Beth
Hey, if that page is not about me, but about thorazine and cookie business,
Let's call it "Heather's cookies" after all, she is the one that wanted to
slip some thorazine in my food.
DaKitty
| > fighting,
| > you or Heather start it back up.
|
| You can't even fall back on that well-worn excuse that we invoked your
| presence by talking about you.
Here comes miss nosey parker again. Don't go squaling agan when I make you
cry.
| > It's who *YOU* chose is deserving of your mocking.
|
| But it's okay for you to snicker about the ASD Webby's page and some
| alleged newsletter, right?
you said yopurself, *alleged*. Paranoid much.
Hey, maybe there is one out there about you. You never know.
| Just because Mark is hosting the site, doesn't make him responsible for
| all the content.
Yes it does, just like ISP's and servers can get sued and made responsible
for what people put on there, it's the same with Mark.
Well, then again, if he allows someone to upload pirated software off his
server, and turns a blind eye to it's operation, then he is not responsible,
he's not an accomplice, is he?
Well, WRONG. Any logic, moral principle, or legal principle says the
statement you just made is wrong.
So, Heather, making excuses much?
DaKitty
| In article <20030308145402...@mb-fc.aol.com>,
| terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
|
| > Mark posted about ME on the Wiki page.
|
| Oh, really? Where?
I saw it.
there is also text copied from mary beth's posts, verbatim, and turned
against her friends.
DaKitty
| > >Heather wrote:
| >
| > > terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
| > >
| > >> As soon as one party stops the bickering and
| > >> fighting,
| > >> you or Heather start it back up.
| > >
| > >*ahem* You leaped out of nowhere and started it this time, sugarplum.
| > >You can't even fall back on that well-worn excuse that we invoked your
| > >presence by talking about you.
| >
| >
That's why
| > I "leaped out of nowhere".
|
| If you say so. I didn't know there was anything there about you.
|
| > In other words, yes I was invoked. And, to add to this further. You
posted a
| > little Saint Ito comment a few days ago in ASD, you know, when you were
| > "depressed and crying while you were ironing".
| > I let that one go without a peep.
|
| So let me get this straight. You're reviewing all my posts for
| references about you? Don't you think that's a bit sick?
Just like you, she reads the newsgroup. Is reading the newsgroup all od a
sudden 'sick?'... Just like you read my posts, and look for the littlest
things you can jump on, and take them out of proportion, like that last one
about your picture, you can't even take a jok, you stunned broad.
But what really IS sick is you obsessing with me, and the webpage that you,
your friend Philippa and wanky marky made. While telling the group you're
ignoring me. That's the truly sick part. And you idiots even left a log of
your activities there to be seen. And what's even sicker, I'm not the only
person you and your little groupies are obsessiong with.
| > Is any of this innacurate?
| > because I will be more than willing to attempt a civil converation about
this,
| > without the sarcasm you're displaying.
|
| It's accurate. After last night's nastiness, don't pretend to be the
| bigger person, though.
Why not? You do it all the time. You're our moral advisor, so if it's good
for you, it's good for us.
BEsides, I don't see where Mary Beth is pretending to be a bigger person at
all. She is just being herself. It's your inferiority complex playing tricks
on you.
| > >But it's okay for you to snicker about the ASD Webby's page and some
| > >alleged newsletter, right?
| >
| > Did you hear me snickering?
|
| You sure did about the Web site. As to you throwing out that bit about
| the newsletter, well....I won't even categorize that. People can judge
| for themselves.
Maybe they don't give a damn, just like you didn't give a damn and approved
of all the crap Tracy did.
| > >Just because Mark is hosting the site, doesn't make him responsible for
| > >all the content.
| >
| > He admitted to making that piece regarding me, he admitted to taking the
| > picture off the ASD picture page, altering it, and adding it.
| >
| > So, am I accusing him of something he didn't add? Because if I am, I
will
| > correct my statement.
|
| These two statements certainly imply that you think he has sole
| responsibility:
| "It's who *YOU* chose is deserving of your mocking."
| "So, it's what YOU found to be "mockworthy"."
You is also a plural, dumbo. The way she wrote it, it can be interpreted
both ways, and since she didn't specify a name behind "You" I'd say, it's
open to several interpretations, none of which has more weight than the
other, and yes, that includes your interpretation not being any more
accurate.
| > And please don't call me pet names. I'm not your sugarplum. You can call
me
| > Mary Beth, In fact, it would probably be the first time, and I'll call
you
| > Heather if that's okay.
|
| You're nauseating when you're being condescendingly righteous.
The above statement uttered by Heather standing in front of a mirror.
Heather, I know you never quite wrapped your stunned little brain around the
following concept: A person doesn't have to be perfect to know right from
wrong.
So, noone in here needs to be a saint to call you on your bad behavior, it's
just as valid as if god himself called you on your bad behavior.
DaKitty
| x-no-archive:yes
|
| >terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
|
| I see things will never change.
| You guys really don't want anything to stop or change.
| Mary Beth
|
Ain't that the truth!
You should have seen heather shooting down my offer at treating each other
in a civil manner.
DaKitty
| In article <kGzaa.705$642.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
| > | > Mark posted about ME on the Wiki page.
| > |
| > | Oh, really? Where?
| >
| > I saw it.
| > there is also text copied from mary beth's posts, verbatim, and turned
| > against her friends.
|
Have cookie, you're getting excitable and your needle is skipping.
DaKitty
| > posted and added to the wikki site.
|
| away but someone else sees it before he does, is he responsible?
Did he not pay for that already? Duh Dumbo!
Heather your tactics are so stupid, when you have no good comeback, and know
you're wrong, you launch a counter attack. That's is soo like that bully
description you posted not too long ago.
But with the extra fat you carry around, and with how busy your jaw must be
chewing on food all the time, you would make a good bully. Maybe a belly
bumping competition ought to be organized.
DaKitty
| In article <i2uaa.5552481$6N5.7...@post-03.news.easynews.com>,
| RGB's Neighbot <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote:
|
| > In article <E5taa.60343$7_.2...@news1.mts.net>,
| > Heather <sp...@menot.com> wrote:
| >
| > > > hes hosting it so he should be held responseable for what is being
| > > > posted and added to the wikki site.
| > >
| > > away but someone else sees it before he does, is he responsible?
| >
|
| Just being picky in response to his pickiness.
a justification for a counter attack by bringing up something you were
hoping might be hurtful to him. How nice of you, miss upstanding.
DaKitty
|
| *I* created the page on that rageful and oh-so-mockworthy woman, so
| don't go blaming Mark for that. Okay, he contributed the cool pix, and
| someone else added a few seminars at the end, but that was entirely
| me.
|
| time someone does something shitty to me on this fucking group. I
| decided to actively ridicule a person I think is a real asshole, and
| you know what? I feel fine about it. Just fucking fine. One of the few
| times I actually flamed the shit out of somebody in the five years
| I've been here. Well deserved, too.
|
| I also contributed something nice to the Wiki, and will continue to do
| things in that vein. But when someone says evil things about whomever
| they choose, in defense of someone who has said unfuckingbelievably
| vile things to me and to others here, I don't have to take that. I'm
| sorry Mark is catching shit from you (quelle surprise) for my fun. I'm
| going to ask him to pull it, since I don't want to hear your
| self-righteous mouth or anyone else's. He doesn't need that shit,
| considering he is doing a service to those of us who are trying to
| avoid the sick fucks in this community, and feel we have nowhere to
| write or share wi thout getting attacked, killfiles in place or not.
Careful minx, the viper might get you again, and your little brother too.
Funny you forgot how I defended you when someone else attacked you about
your brother. As a thanks, I got flamed by you when I had quite possibly my
worst moment this year. And you have the audacity to call me a viper, you
backstabbing little fake witch.
Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me, I'm not surprised
he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
DaKitty
"Dr. Siddhartha Vicious" <bok...@ptsi.net> wrote in message
news:b4dlql$1u1qfi$1...@ID-72596.news.dfncis.de...
| x-no-archive:yes
| > going to ask him to pull it, since I don't want to hear your
| > self-righteous mouth or anyone else's.
|
provided
| me w/a much needed laugh on a really fucked-up day.
doing it behind people's backs...
Yellow much?
DaKitty
No shit!
| And yeah, I wanted to cry into my pillow like the puss I am over the
| mean shit The Other Bot said, but then I thought, why bother with any
| of this. Yeah, all the nice placid mature advice in the world about
| disengaging, but I've seen people lose their shit plenty of times when
| hurt on this group, and not be able to disengage, so right now I can't
| do that.
Poor minx can't disengage, man, I remembering you screaming at me for days
because I had a hard time disengaging, when I first came to the group. I
know, it's ok for you, but not ok for me.
I'm depressed and my eating disorder is biting the shit out
| of me and I'm all wobbily in my life, and I just need to GET THIS SHIT
| OUT. But not let it get to me so bad that I sulk and freak and think
| about the group 24 hours a day.
Oh, poor baby, let's all cater to minxe's inability to handle her feelings.
| So I created that page and got back to working my new job and dealing
| with my nongroup related troubles.
|
| Good enough.
no, it's not good enough, and you know it.
If you thought it was good enough, you wouldn't spend this much effort
trying to defend and justify your behavior.
DaKitty
| x-no-archive:yes
| >RGB's Neighbot wrote:
|
| > terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
| >Anyway, the website is getting TONS of traffic since you and Connie
| >started bitching about it, and for that, I remain grateful.
|
| I chose not to comment on this part.
He's oh so proud that people see what a prick he is, ridiculing other
people.
Don't people learn in kindergarten that's not a nice thing to do, and that
good people don't do that.
DaKitty
| In article <20030308150834...@mb-fc.aol.com>,
| terr...@aol.com (Marybeth) wrote:
|
| > So, you didn't answer my question. Do you feel that if *I* or anyone
else
| > thinks you or any of your friends have been bad or worthy of mocking, do
we
| > have those same rights to take pictures of you guys, words you have
said, or
| > make web sites mocking you out?
|
| I'll answer that, if I may. Everyone has the ability to remove anything
| they find objectionable. That's how a Wiki works.
Why should we waste our time cleaning up your mess? Let it stand there, to
show everyone just what creeps you and your friends can be.
DaKitty
"RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:tesaa.2218508$TJ.3...@post-02.news.easynews.com...| > As explained above, I DO NOT believe you started this site to be
| > a flame site for others but as a fun site to share things in.
|
| OK, OK, I heard you the first time. Clarification noted.
|
| > Do you think it could continue to be a cool site without
| > mocking out ASDers?
|
| Do you think ASDF could continue to be a cool site without people
| "mocking out" one another?
Not with you in it.
| Do you think that's likely to happen?
Not with you in it.
DaKitty
| On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:16:27 GMT, Outsider <blac...@cloneshaw.ca>
| wrote:
|
| >mark is still partly to blame, he has the editing power to remove
| >certain things whether he created it or if someone else did.
|
| anarchy based, or if you want a nicer term, freedom based.
Not true. mark is providing the server, the access, and the storage. It
would be like saying a guy that turns his nack to drug dealing out of his
house is not responsible. DUH.
| And in case you hadn't noticed, some of us think the morally
| bankrupt--who have put themselves on those steppes through their very
| own disgusting actions--deserve the satire.
Deserving or not is not the point.
The point is that the it makes you morally bankrupt as well. Pot - Kettle.
What you did is not nice, and you people claim to be so nice, and above
dirty tricks, well, as you have a chance to see you're not. As a matter of
fact, you're not one bit better than me.
DaKitty
| In article <r_zaa.745$Va2.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
| > Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me,
| > I'm not surprised he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
|
|
| I cannot post the thoughts I am thinking right now.
who gives a shit.
erminia
>>
>> Words have incredible power. Yours move me, always.
>>
>> Gayle
>>
> Thank you Gayle. I have tremendously low self-esteem and I never think
> that what I say amounts to anything. It takes a great deal of courage for
> me to write and post and open inner-self to others. Ta-pocketa ta-pocketa
> ta-pocketa.
Golly. wait a minute while i pick my jaw up from the floor.
OC? you write wonderfully well and are on my short (and growing shorter)
list of people to always read no matter what thread they are participating
in.
please.
erminia
erminia
the_ol...@yahoo.com wrote on 3/8/03 2:32 PM:
> Gayle <gay...@rcn.com> wrote in news:3E6A4176...@rcn.com:
>
>> old coyote wrote:
>>
>>> <everything snipped>
>>>
>>> This constant fighting is really sad for me. It is going way over
>>> the top, in my opinion, to the point where real damage can occur, and
>>> has occurred. The fact is, not one of us here is lily white; we've
>>> all done things that would be considered more than suspect IRL. I've
>>> gone back into the google archives to try to get a clue as to why
>>> people are so vengeful and hurtful,
>>
>> Beyond the google archives, old coyote, don't you think that the whole
>> of human history is full of clues for why people are so vengeful and
>> hurtful. Maybe it's in our human nature --- as you say, none of us are
>> lily white, none of us have clean hands.
>>
> I have to agree with your assessment of the human condition. I was
> speaking more of the microcosm that is ASD, and the unstable people (myself
> included) who come here for support.
>
>
>>>
>>> and I have to say that I understand. I'm not sure how I would react,
>>> hell, I'd probably be in the thick of things, at least in my own mind
>>> and world (where I spend the majority of my time, ta-pocketa
>>> ta-pocketa ta-pocketa).
>>
>> What does ta-poketa mean? And, since I live in my head, too, I feel in
>> the thick of things that I'm thinking about, whether I'm speaking out
>> loud, or not.
>
> It's from the James Therber short story, "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty,"
> one of my all-time favorites.
pocketa-pocketa-queep-pocketa-queep
queep.
:)
erminia
wrote on 3/8/03 5:08 PM:
> old coyote wrote:
>> <everything snipped>
>>
>> This constant fighting is really sad for me. It is going way over the top,
>> in my opinion, to the point where real damage can occur, and has occurred.
>> The fact is, not one of us here is lily white; we've all done things that
>> would be considered more than suspect IRL. I've gone back into the google
>> archives to try to get a clue as to why people are so vengeful and hurtful,
>> and I have to say that I understand. I'm not sure how I would react, hell,
>> I'd probably be in the thick of things, at least in my own mind and world
>> (where I spend the majority of my time, ta-pocketa ta-pocketa ta-pocketa).
>>
>> However, I think that we need to understand, here of all places, that most
>> of us, if not all of us, are very vulnerable at aome times. On the flip-
>> side of that coin, I also think that we need to recognize that it is the
>> illness that causes people to do those suspect things from time to time.
>> I'm not saying that one needs to kiss and make up, nor forget, because we
>> can't, but maybe a little more tolerance is in order? I don't know... and
>> I certainly don't want to lecture anyone because a lot of you have been
>> here way more consistantly than I have, and have been involved in those
>> very damaging threads, so who the hell am I to say?
>>
>> Just a thought of caution - words are very powerful things, I think even
>> more so in this medium of unbridled, wide-open, idea exchange without
>> almost any threat of personal consequences or retribution. Maybe just take
>> an extra moment before responding with raw emotions. As I said, we are all
>> very much vulnerable at some times, and we are all somewhat unstable at
>> times, some more than others.
>>
>> Flame me hard if you must. I just felt the need to say something from my
>> perspective. :(
>>
>
> Thank you, Mitty. The patient's body was tearing itself apart. The
> steady ta-pocketa-poketa-poketa of the poisoned life-blood pump was
> about to drive *me* mad! It was nothing short of miraculous how you
> appeared from nowhere (or Texas) and, with one supremely deft pinch,
> paused the flow for just that instant necessary for the mind to take
> hold and, aided by the giant, humming bank of neurocatalytic cleansers,
> resume normal operations! Astounding, sir!
> It is left to one of the lesser minds to conclude, as the crisis fades
> from memory, "*I* think they should kiss and make up!"
>
> Kirby
>
roffle.
thanks for the chuckle, Kirby.
:)
erminia
conn...@cb-design.net wrote on 3/8/03 11:36 PM:
yeah. it *is* a laugh.
good lordy!!!!
queep!!
pocketa-pocketa-pocketa. queep!!!
;)
chaptal
DaKitty wrote:
stand alone, dumbass.
ed
>
>
>
DaKitty
"Kirby Cook" <kirby...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3E6A69F2...@yahoo.com...
| old coyote wrote:
| > <everything snipped>
| It is left to one of the lesser minds to conclude, as the crisis fades
| from memory, "*I* think they should kiss and make up!"
Well, I tried that last week, but Heather shot it down.
Maybe she doesn't like to kiss on the mouth... My bad.
DaKitty
| In article <4rzaa.693$r32.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,| > news:w0qaa.60241$7_.2...@news1.mts.net...
| > | In article <N0kaa.429$Qf3...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,
| > | "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
| > |
| > | > "RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
| > | > | In article <qMhaa.331$ck2.34...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
| > | > | "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > | My father died when I was 12.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Ah, men drop dead around you early, don't they?
| > | > |
| > | > | "Connie is good people."
|
| > | > At least I didn't go building webpages to mock people I don't like.
| > |
| > | But you plan to.
| >
| > prove it, dumbo.
|
| You conveniently snipped your plans:
Who gives a damn.
You're digging up bones and obsessing with me again.
Go update my webpage, will you!
DaKitty
"Dr. Siddhartha Vicious" <bok...@ptsi.net> wrote in message
news:b4ejks$1utncq$1...@ID-72596.news.dfncis.de...
| x-no-archive:yes| > "Ah, men drop dead around you early, don't they?" Real big of you.
| >
|
|
| Another Connie quotable. Simply amazing.
|
Yes, I am, and I can see you love me.
Thank you
DaKitty
*giggle*
DaKitty
| In article <kGzaa.705$642.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
I saw it yesterday.
Go find it for yourself, you're good at digging up text.
I don't feel like bothering right now. It's not that important to me.
Oh and, by the way, Mark's needle is stuck up your, you know what.
DaKitty
| In article <MEzaa.703$oZ1.47...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
| > "Heather" <sp...@menot.com> wrote in message
| > news:bIraa.60290$7_.2...@news1.mts.net...
|
|
HEy, it's my website we're talking about, dumbo.
| > Don't go squaling agan when I make you
| > cry.
|
| You've never made me cry yet, asshole. Only people I care about have the
| power to do that.
Deny deny deny, poor heather ironing and crying in the vipers nest.
Well, I knew all along you were faking it.
| > | But it's okay for you to snicker about the ASD Webby's page and some
| > | alleged newsletter, right?
| >
| > Hey, maybe there is one out there about you. You never know.
|
| Well, DuH. Your Spew Sister said there was.
I don't follow her every move, like you do.
| > | Just because Mark is hosting the site, doesn't make him responsible
for
| > | all the content.
| >
| > Yes it does, just like ISP's and servers can get sued and made
responsible
| > for what people put on there, it's the same with Mark.
| > Well, then again, if he allows someone to upload pirated software off
his
| > server, and turns a blind eye to it's operation, then he is not
responsible,
| > he's not an accomplice, is he?
| > Well, WRONG. Any logic, moral principle, or legal principle says the
| > statement you just made is wrong.
| >
| > So, Heather, making excuses much?
|
| Blah, blah, blah. You missed the point completely. But I wasn't talking
| to you anyway.
I didn't miss the point, we disagree, dumbo.
Not that you can handle someone disagreeing with you without turning into a
bully. Jumbo Dumbo Bully.
DaKitty
| In article <r_zaa.745$Va2.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
|
too.
| >
| > Funny you forgot how I defended you when someone else attacked you about
| > your brother. As a thanks, I got flamed by you when I had quite possibly
my
| > worst moment this year. And you have the audacity to call me a viper,
you
| > backstabbing little fake witch.
| >
| > Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me, I'm not
surprised
| > he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
|
|
| This is BY FAR the most despicable, revolting thing you've ever said.
Let me quote you, Heather,
"I don't give a damn"
Now, go update my website, you may find that much more therapeutic.
erminia
>
> no, it's not good enough, and you know it.
> If you thought it was good enough, you wouldn't spend this much effort
> trying to defend and justify your behavior.
>
>
someone should this to a number of our politicians. and a number of people
currently speechifying at the UN.
DaKitty
| x-no-archive:yes
|
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote in message
| news:r_zaa.745$Va2.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
| >
| >
| > Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me, I'm not
surprised
| > he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
| >
| >
|
|
I was angry, minx said it's ok to do that when you're angry.
After all, you good people decided it's ok to flame someone who is suicidal,
if you get angry. That's far worse than diatribe by someone whom you decided
has no credibility in here in the first place.
See, If I have no credibility, then I can say whatever I want, and you can't
call me on it. You can only call me on it if you give it credibility.
I guess all that education didn't help your logical reasoning much
DaKitty
"chaptal" <cha...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3E6AD3FF...@earthlink.net...
I can't with your head up my bum. Take it out of there first.
DaKitty
| In article <kaAaa.2237836$TJ.3...@post-02.news.easynews.com>,
| RGB's Neighbot <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote:
|
| > In article <r_zaa.745$Va2.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
| > "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
| >
| > > I'm not surprised he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
| >
| >
| > I cannot post the thoughts I am thinking right now.
|
Good people like you don't think those kinds of things.
But I bet you think much worse things than I ever posted.
See how no good you are.
Not only that, but passive aggressive too.
DaKitty
| >
|
| Here's one I found especially amusing:
|
| "right now I wish you choke on something and end up in a hospital."
Same to you, love
DaKitty
Well, according to my shrink, it's one of pretty basic psych concepts.
minxvox
wrote:
>> Careful minx, the viper might get you again, and your little brother too.
>>
>> Funny you forgot how I defended you when someone else attacked you about
>> your brother. As a thanks, I got flamed by you when I had quite possibly my
>> worst moment this year. And you have the audacity to call me a viper, you
>> backstabbing little fake witch.
>>
>> Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me, I'm not surprised
>> he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
>
>
>stand alone, dumbass.
thank you ed, heather, sid, and mark.
minxvox
>minxvox wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I think this is what really gets to me, what makes it hard to let some
>> things pass by without comment. People may very wisely say "Let it go"
>> or not-so-wisely cluck-cluck about ongoing fueds, but it's these kinds
>> of actions that I want to hold up and say, "See what this person has
>> done? And this can happen to you too if you cross them, so no man is
>> an island, baby!"
>>
>> I know people decide for themselves what to do, how to think, all that
>> shit. But it truly hurts me inside to see what happened to you
>> mocked--as well as disgusts and appalls me--and still have the person
>> who did the mocking blithely reinventing history.
>>
>> Oh, it's all a waste of time, you and I know it is. Let's go ride
>> bikes and eat burritos, ala one of your finer googled posts!!
>
>Maybe it's not a waste of time. Maybe it's good, sometimes, to stand up and
>communicate, in no uncertain terms, that there are lines that cannot be
>crossed without consequence. I sure think it's a good thing sometimes.
>Here's a quote I use sometimes to remind me that sometimes expressed anger,
>in any of its forms, isn't a waste of time:
>
>Good people have to be willing to fight for what they believe in. Otherwise,
>they're not really good people, they're just nice people.
>
>fwiw,
hey, worth a lot to me. I don't really know you, but thanks to Luna,
I've been getting to know you. I've been enjoying your posts very
much.
Anyway, thank you. Not just for validating me, as the parlance goes,
but it's kind of a big deal to me that I don't have to be "nice" all
the time. Maybe I didn't do the best thing, but it really really was
better than getting depressed for a week and withdrawing and crying
and feeling like all the horrid things people say in this ethermedium
are real. Even if some of them are real, or touch bone in this awful
way, the only aim of some people in their sickness (or meanness) is to
hurt, and I've been at the end of that so many times, and usually all
I do is cry. I'm sick of crying.
Anyway. thank you. very much.
minx
minxvox
>In article <e5nl6v8gug61esjo7...@4ax.com>,
> minxvox <min...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> thank you ed, heather, sid, and mark.
>
>{{{{{{{{{{{ Minx }}}}}}}}}}}}}
>
>Are you okay, sweetie?
If I wasn't, I sure as fuck wouldn't put it out here.
I'm fine.
erminia
the_ol...@yahoo.com wrote on 3/9/03 12:54 AM:
> erminia <ermi...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:BA8FBA58.4E59F%ermi...@earthlink.net:
> Thanks for the ego boost, erminia. Maybe my writing is a product of living
> inside my own head so much. When one tends to stutter, even a little bit,
> one tends to shrink away from any type of communication. It doesn't take
> long to figure that out in this world, and because of that, I never thought
> of myself as being able to write (and I still have troouble believing that,
> but I try to be respectful of people's opinions, even when they concern me;
> probably especially when they concern me). I still feel incredibly
> uncomfortable and anxious when I speak and write. Maybe one day I can
> overcome that to some extent. Growth is never without violence on one
> level or another, and change is almost always accompanied by anxiety. At
> least in my case.
>
> So thank you erminia, for allowing me the opportunity to grow a little.
oh, please! it was *entirely* my pleasure!
please keep writing.
Kirby Cook
omnipotent (as someone else said). You've said you don't like holding
grudges. I believe you; that's why I like you. I wonder what it would
take, inside you, for you to let the hurt from the barbs go, without
bitterness and without regret? Whatever it might be, I wish it for you,
as I wish you well.
Kirby
Kirby Cook
<snip>
>
>
> roffle.
>
>
> thanks for the chuckle, Kirby.
>
>
>
> :)
>
Ermina, when I read your reply, *I* chuckled. You're welcome, and
thanks back.
Kirby
minxvox
wrote:
>long ago and far away, minxvox <min...@mindspring.com> did say:
>{{{{minxie}}}}
no need, but thank you.
hey, el, I've been missing what's been going on, with my laptop in the
shop and limited time on the computer, but I think I saw something
about your little ratttie having cancer? I'm so sorry. I know how you
feel about your guys :(
minxvox
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 01:38:19 -0500, phil...@mindspring.com wrote:
>On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 06:35:15 GMT, minxvox <min...@mindspring.com>
>wrote:
>minx, Heather and Mark: my heart goes out to all of you.
>
>Just when I think the lows can't get any lower, the cuts any more
>cruel, someone succeeds in exceeding my expectations.
it's okay phil.
the puppy is licking my cleavage. that's kind of low, in its own
special way.
minxvox
>In article <83ol6vsfgal2n8jo6...@4ax.com>,
> phil...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> minx, Heather and Mark: my heart goes out to all of you.
>>
>> Just when I think the lows can't get any lower, the cuts any more
>> cruel, someone succeeds in exceeding my expectations.
>
>Thank you, friend.
Yes, heather, the stuff said to you about your father (which has been
used before) was revolting.
You know, our dead are real fucking people, you assholes.
Sorry.
love.
Courage
>Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me, I'm not surprised
>he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
Disgusting remark number whatever from our resident "good people."
Doubtless to be followed with reams of material about why it's fine
and other people made her do it.
DaKitty
well, them leaving me alone would be great.
As you observe the dynamic here, I can carry on with people, and if someone
happens to say something good about me, or I say something to someone, like
my friends, that is not to their liking, they start swarming.
It happened when I was talking to Clark, and well, this go around, I just
discovered the website yesterday, so I suppose you can say I'm the one that
brought up the issue.. Discovering they've been talking about me and few
others behind our backs.
As for stuff in the group, all they have to do is leave me alone. You'll see
there are several of them that refuse to do that. Even when I told heather,
let's just leave each other alone, she said no, she said that she doesn't
find it acceptable to keep quiet if she sees me doing something that she
doesn't find acceptable, and that she will "speak up" (meaning, attack).
Did you notice that when she was moping around few days ago about crying and
ironing, I left her alone. Even though she made several remarks or allusions
about me, and how horrible I was...
I killfile, I try to keep to myself, but they keep needling.
Trust me, there's nothing I'd like more than to be left alone top talk to
people who are willing to talk to me nicely. You, Dave, several others...
And the rest of them, I don't care. I will not seek them.
When they start needling or attacking, well, I'm not the type to run off.
Yea, I do have temper. I don't use it to start on people, I don't even use
it to increase the levels of nastiness, But once someone raises things to a
certain level, and opens the door, I will match them. I suppose it's not the
best thing to do, but, I'm not perfect, nowhere near perfect. I have my
triggers and things I find tougher to deal with too. I guess I'm sensitive
to people who try to manipulate me, and I fight back, viciously.
Maybe it comes from the way my ex husband was. 25+ my senior, with a degree
in psychology... He was about 44, I was 19, it lasted about 4-5 years, and I
got to see all kinds of masterful manipulating techniques, from false
niceness, to appealing to your "human side" to kicking me when down to guilt
trips to trying to "help me" do things that he wanted me to do, that I
didn't want for myself... It's a long ugly story that ended with me betting
physically abused, and almost killed.
And yes, I'm opinionated, I may say things that can come across little harsh
at times, but that's me. People close to me know how to take them. As for
others, I can't be responsible for the whole world. And I will never attack
someone out of blue. It will either be as self defense, or if I see someone
picking on someone in trouble.
Anyway, if the barbs keep to their business, and leave me out of it, and
stopped reminding me of just what supposedly horrible person I am, it will
get forgotten over night.
Courage
>do that. I'm depressed and my eating disorder is biting the shit out
>of me and I'm all wobbily in my life, and I just need to GET THIS SHIT
>OUT. But not let it get to me so bad that I sulk and freak and think
>about the group 24 hours a day.
>
>So I created that page and got back to working my new job and dealing
>with my nongroup related troubles.
>
>Good enough.
I love it when you do something to get something out and it actually
stays out. I have trouble with that. I'm awfully glad it worked for
you. A move like yours practically guarantees a pretty good case of
the wobbles for a while. If I can do anything that will help with a
railing just holler.
minxvox
DaKitty
"old coyote" <the_ol...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9338EE048...@130.133.1.4...
| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote in
| news:r_zaa.745$Va2.48...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
|
| I can't believe that yoou actually thought that, much less posted it.
When you contemplate killing yourself, and the witches in here flame you
while that is happening, even though you're just about begging them to back
off a little bit, and they;re insisting you're lying, lots of things go
through your head.
Ever been on the verge of a suicide? Ever had several people attacking you
in a support group while that was happening?
Lot's of things go through your head.
DaKitty
"Courage" <coura...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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as long as it's fine for you and your friends to flame suicidal people while
in the middle of the crisis, this is ok too.
Courage
>"Courage" <coura...@yahoo.com> wrote
>| "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net> wrote:
>|
>| >Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me, I'm not
>surprised
>| >he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
>|
>| Disgusting remark number whatever from our resident "good people."
>| Doubtless to be followed with reams of material about why it's fine
>| and other people made her do it.
>
>as long as it's fine for you and your friends to flame suicidal people while
>in the middle of the crisis, this is ok too.
Ah. I left out repetitions of manufactured events.
DaKitty
"yuluwirri miyay" <yulu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| >Careful minx, the viper might get you again, and your little brother too.
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| >Funny you forgot how I defended you when someone else attacked you about
| >your brother. As a thanks, I got flamed by you when I had quite possibly
my
| >worst moment this year. And you have the audacity to call me a viper,
you
| >backstabbing little fake witch.
| >
surprised
| >he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
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| made by your own hands moving across the keyboard, be anything else
| but despicable.
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| There are points, and there are points.
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| This is a red hot needle piercing straight into another person's
| heart.
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| And before you blab to me that minx did so and so and dadada, does it
| make it right for you to go do this again and again and again? Like
| does two wrongs make a right? Not that I could compare anything minx
| has written to what you just wrote.
You think I'm not still hurting? You think Heathers and few other people
still insisting I was lying about being suicidal doesn't feel like that?
No, when I hurt as much as I hurt with certain things I have no conscience.
At some point the pain inflicted supercedes my ability to control it.
So, when they stop claiming that I was lying about being suicidal (you know,
a police report about that exists, but yet here, they still insist I'm
lying), well, when they stop insisting I was lying about being suicidal, and
stop cracking jokes about that, and admit that was far worse, I stop what
I'm doing.
The petty hounding and flaming that was going on in here did not in any
shape or form warrant them flaming me after I posted about being suicidal,
and more or less begged them to beck off, at least for a while. They
refused, insisted I was lying and continued to flame. And they still insist
I was lying. And they keep bringing it up, often.
So, you tell me, why do they have to keep bringing that up over and over
again?
They screwed with me while they knew my life was hanging in a balance. I
think that is far far worse than how minx is feeling now. And is she is
feeling suicidal over this, and my words cut in deep enough for her to have
enough pain top want to pull the trigger, then she know exactly how I felt,
and the effect her words had on me. Considering she won't even admit she did
anything, much less show any remorse, I can't let up. That particular wound
she and her friends created cut too deep. Especially when they don't even
admit doing it.
So, if that makes me bad, so be it. I don't care. I have plenty of my own
pain to deal with to worry about how she is affected. I just don't have any
sympathy in me for anyone else involved in that event. Maybe next time,
when someone posts about being in a serious trouble, they'll think twice
about attacking them over some petty two day old misunderstanding.
So, don't harp on me about that one, it hurts, and it outs me in an
extremely angry mood, and the only way I can deal wit it at those levels of
intensity is to lash out.
DaKitty
"RGB's Neighbot" <thene...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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| In article <70Daa.60691$7_.2...@news1.mts.net>,
| Heather <sp...@menot.com> wrote:
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| > "I almost got suicidal... not enough though to get overwhelmed by that
| > feeling. So I guess it wasn't a really bad one."
|
| I don't know what that's supposed to mean, anyway. Hey. this is ASD. I
| doubt if there's a single person here who isn't "almost suicidal", with
| varying degrees of "almost".
what that's about is that I had a panic attack, posted this after a panic
attac, but then more ighting happened (at home) and I tried to hide from it,
in ASD, posted about being suicidal more, in ASD, ASDF and about 3 other
groups. Unfortunately, the only people that happened to be on line that
evening were Heather philippa and minx, who followed Heather's two day old
grudge about some petty flame, and proceeded to follow my posts about
feeling suicidal with an attack about how I'm using it as an excuse to get
out of some petty flame.
Gee, like I need to fake a suicide to get out of a flame or something. Duh.
It wasn't even a major flareup, just something stupid that I could care less
about.
Well, heather was still answering my posts from that morining, and getting
all huffy and puffy ready to flame, while I was making new posts about my
crises. So since she was in the middle of reading early posts, she thought I
was posting about being suicidal, so I would "get out" her flaming me. I
mean the whole concept is idiotic, since you people flame me about 80 % of
the time. Like I need to threathed suicide to get out of being flamed,
that's a big DUH... If that was the case, I'd be dead long ago. Not to
worry, this was the first time in over 10 years I got suicidal.
I even went as far as telling heather to save her flaming for the next day,
sice that was a bad time, and she did just the opposite, turned up the heat.
And Philippa and minx jumped in.
Well, since minx did have experience with suicide, and we had done some
talking via email, and even had a chance to meet at the meet, I was
particularly struck that she, of all people, would jump all over me claiming
that I was lying and whatever else happened. It was another 200 or more post
event.
Another thing that was despicable was that heather had chewed out someone
else just days ago about flaming someone that just posted about being
suicidal.
Bottom line is, they all know it's that when someone is suicidal, and posts
about the crises, it's wrong to flame them about it, wish them gone, tell
them they're lying and whatever else they dished out.
Now, put cursor to the end, higlight all, snip.
[insert invalidating remarks here]
Clark
>Maybe it's not a waste of time. Maybe it's good, sometimes, to stand up and
>communicate, in no uncertain terms, that there are lines that cannot be
>crossed without consequence. I sure think it's a good thing sometimes.
>Here's a quote I use sometimes to remind me that sometimes expressed anger,
>in any of its forms, isn't a waste of time:
>
>Good people have to be willing to fight for what they believe in. Otherwise,
>they're not really good people, they're just nice people.
>
>fwiw,
>
>Gayle
no doubt what you wrote is true. it is good for people to stand up
for what they believe in and how they feel. there is a difference
between stating your views and values and throwing out words out of
nowhere intended to inflict pain as a response during the course of a
discussion.
in the imoortal words of a kenny rogers song.... (gawd i feel geeky
for this...)...
You gotta know when to hold em
know when to fold em
know when to walk away
know when to run....
actually. makes a lot of sense to me.
take care
Bill
Clark
wrote:
>Yea, If you treated your brother the way you treated me, I'm not surprised
>he killed himself. And I stand by that statement.
>
no matter what the history.... that is cold.
take care connie
Bill
Clark
wrote:
>Ever been on the verge of a suicide?
yes... dangerously close not too long ago .
> Ever had several people attacking you in a support group while that was happening?
no... i tend to withdraw when i get that way..... and if they did
start attacking me if i posted about it, i would turn the machine off
and stay away for awhile... try to find support elsewhere, help or
something.
>
>Lot's of things go through your head.
>
yes they do, even without attacks.
you know, once i was close to suicidal, a few years back. i was in
one hell of a low depression, couldn't keep my mind on my job. i
ended up out back of the building smoking and crying teying to figure
things out....
one day i come to work and there is a dilbert cartoon on my desk.
something about dilbert getting his work load doubled or something but
the boss at the end says... what you gonna do? cry?? uh? cry like a
baby?"
that hurt... never did know who put it there, but it still resides in
my mind. i didn't think anyone knew about me going behind the
building....
rambling.. sorry
Bill
Clark
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>This constant fighting is really sad for me. It is going way over the top,
>in my opinion, to the point where real damage can occur, and has occurred.
>The fact is, not one of us here is lily white; we've all done things that
>would be considered more than suspect IRL. I've gone back into the google
>archives to try to get a clue as to why people are so vengeful and hurtful,
>and I have to say that I understand. I'm not sure how I would react, hell,
>I'd probably be in the thick of things, at least in my own mind and world
>(where I spend the majority of my time, ta-pocketa ta-pocketa ta-pocketa).
>
>However, I think that we need to understand, here of all places, that most
>of us, if not all of us, are very vulnerable at aome times. On the flip-
>side of that coin, I also think that we need to recognize that it is the
>illness that causes people to do those suspect things from time to time.
>I'm not saying that one needs to kiss and make up, nor forget, because we
>can't, but maybe a little more tolerance is in order? I don't know... and
>I certainly don't want to lecture anyone because a lot of you have been
>here way more consistantly than I have, and have been involved in those
>very damaging threads, so who the hell am I to say?
>
>Just a thought of caution - words are very powerful things, I think even
>more so in this medium of unbridled, wide-open, idea exchange without
>almost any threat of personal consequences or retribution. Maybe just take
>an extra moment before responding with raw emotions. As I said, we are all
>very much vulnerable at some times, and we are all somewhat unstable at
>times, some more than others.
>
>Flame me hard if you must. I just felt the need to say something from my
>perspective. :(
very well thought out and very well written.... and very well true
imho
take care
Bill
Clark
wrote:
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>Thanks for the ego boost, erminia. Maybe my writing is a product of living
>inside my own head so much.
it's called "thinking things out instead of reacting" it is a good
thing and you do it quite well.
>I still feel incredibly
>uncomfortable and anxious when I speak and write. Maybe one day I can
>overcome that to some extent. Growth is never without violence on one
>level or another, and change is almost always accompanied by anxiety. At
>least in my case.
maybe one day, you'll get over the anxiety when writing. i haven't
yet, but am working on it. thoughts go through your head i am sure
like the responses, the wording, trying to be careful... etc etc...
keep writing... you are good at it... plus you have good thoughts to
write about.
take care
BIll
Outsider
RIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
because i am what i am.....well fuck you
for your info i was talking about adult porn, something that tripod
does'nt want on web sites they host.
outsider
RGB's Neighbot wrote:
> In article <E5taa.60343$7_.2...@news1.mts.net>,
> Heather <sp...@menot.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>hes hosting it so he should be held responseable for what is being
>>>posted and added to the wikki site.
>>
>>So if someone uploads a pornographic picture and he deletes it right
>>away but someone else sees it before he does, is he responsible?
>
>
> Oh, Heather, for God's sake. Picky, picky, picky.
>
> I'd say: if someone posts pedo porn, I may not be responsible for it
> being there but I'm certainly responsible for taking it down. Not so for
> the sort of flamey material under consideration here, nor for the
> literature that's also being posted. Do I get credit for the stuff I
> posted by Annie Dillard?
>
DaKitty
"Clark" <wm-clar...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 08:13:22 GMT, "DaKitty" <conn...@cb-design.net>
| wrote:
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| >Ever been on the verge of a suicide?
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| yes... dangerously close not too long ago .
|
| > Ever had several people attacking you in a support group while that was
happening?
|
| no... i tend to withdraw when i get that way..... and if they did
| start attacking me if i posted about it, i would turn the machine off
| and stay away for awhile... try to find support elsewhere, help or
| something.
for me, it's different.
That day, I had major panic attacks because of the events at home,
arguments... then after the fighting, I got left alone and barely out of a
panic attack. Feelig very shakey, needing people contact so I don't gho off
the deep end. Unfortunately, the people I got in contact with were the three
flamers. Also, mind you, thisis not something that happens to me very often,
(getting suicidal) it hasn't happened in over 10 years, so it's not
something that I know how to cope with. after couple of hours or however
long it was on-line, I wound up calling the cops (I was still home alone), I
called them because the on-line experience, the contact with people I
thought was going to make it little better, I had the bad luck of ruinning
ointo the wrong people, and it took me several hours to go through it and
figure out something. My first instinct was to start fighting back, like I
normally do, and with that, even when there is a number of people against
me, I feel fine, I feel on top o fthings. This one time it was very
different, it started affecting me very differently than it usually does,
and i felt myself fading, and not having the presence of mind to even be
very clear on what was happening, but how to stop it.
I think what happened in the end, I found myself in the upstairs bedroom
(other end of the house from the comoputer) looking for a gun. I thing when
I finally found the gun, I must have had a surge of adrenaline, or
something, because instead of pulling the gun from the drawer of the
nightstand, I grabbed the phone on top of it, and dialed the PD, asked them
if they know of any suicide hotlines, and the lengthy conversation with
them, and someone else they transferred me to started.
| >Lot's of things go through your head.
| >
|
| yes they do, even without attacks.
|
| you know, once i was close to suicidal, a few years back. i was in
| one hell of a low depression, couldn't keep my mind on my job. i
| ended up out back of the building smoking and crying teying to figure
| things out....
|
| one day i come to work and there is a dilbert cartoon on my desk.
| something about dilbert getting his work load doubled or something but
| the boss at the end says... what you gonna do? cry?? uh? cry like a
| baby?"
|
| that hurt... never did know who put it there, but it still resides in
| my mind. i didn't think anyone knew about me going behind the
| building....
|
| rambling.. sorry
it's ok :)
DaKitty
Yes, unfortunately, it is cold.
Imagine the feelings that would bring someone to saying something that
cruel.
When I first said it, the pain was so bad I wanted to blow my head off, just
to stop the pain.
| take care connie
|
| Bill