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Sanders Kaufman

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Feb 26, 2013, 3:48:44 AM2/26/13
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In the 1950's, the people of Plano fought against water fluoridation.
Fluoridated water prevents tooth decay, but their right-wing leadership said
that it would turn them into communists.
Literally - they honestly believed That flouride would turn them into
communists.

Back then, Texas' kids were known throughout the country for their bad
teeth.
Later, after the commie scare died down, they still had rotten teeth, so
they went ahead and flourdated the water.
Much to their surprise, no commies were created as a result.
Once the flourdation programs begin, tooth decay all but disappeared.

This week, they've decided to stop flourdiating the water.
They say that since store-bought toothpaste usually has flouride in it,
putting it in the water for the poorer kids and those who don't brush as
well simply isn't worth the price.

Waldo

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Feb 26, 2013, 4:52:35 PM2/26/13
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Sanders, you drank the Plano water and became a Communist. Besides you
grind your teeth in fear of inanimate objects, and of course meth ruined
them.

bill clinton

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Feb 26, 2013, 6:46:20 PM2/26/13
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As usual you can't get your story right and just LIE instead

http://www.planostar.com/articles/2013/02/26/mckinney_courier-gazette/news/8369.txt


Sanders Kaufman

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Feb 27, 2013, 12:42:50 AM2/27/13
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"bill clinton" wrote in message news:kgjhe6$1du$1...@dont-email.me...

>As usual you can't get your story right and just LIE instead

As usual, you side with the Republican psychos, and against the science.

Waldo

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Feb 27, 2013, 10:56:18 AM2/27/13
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We understand the science. Fluoridated water and meth have fried your
brain and made you an incestuous Communist weirdo.

bill clinton

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Feb 27, 2013, 1:54:42 PM2/27/13
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No, I side with the facts. And the facts say you're a fuckin
liar.
Here's the article again so you can read it and try to
comprehend the actual FACTS
http://www.planostar.com/articles/2013/02/26/mckinney_courier-gazette/news/8369.txt



Domitius Corbulo

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Feb 27, 2013, 5:38:23 PM2/27/13
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Here is more information from a reader on the PlanoStar Article:

Hagen4Home wrote on Feb 20, 2013 5:44 PM:
" I believe it's important that everyone is properly informed and aware
of exactly what type of 'fluoride' is being added during NTMWDs
treatment process.

Despite NTMWD's implication on their website that the fluoride they use
is derived from the abundant, naturally-occurring mineral fluorine - the
fact is that NTMWD's fluoride is added in the form of Hydrofluorosilicic
Acid which is supplied to the NTMWD from Mosaic Co. in Minnesota.

Anyone interested in reading the MSDS that Councilman Roger Harris is
referring to, may do so here:
http://www.mosaicco.com/images/Hydrofluosilicic_Acid_05_11.pdf

The main chemicals used to fluoridate drinking water are known as
silicofluorides (i.e., hydrofluorosilicic acid (Fluorosilicic Acid,
Hexafluosilicic Acid, FSA or HFS) and sodium fluorosilicate).
Silicofluorides are not pharmaceutical-grade fluoride products; they are
unprocessed industrial by-products of the phosphate fertilizer industry
& aluminum factories. Since these silicofluorides undergo no
purification procedures, they can contain elevated levels of arsenic
moreso than any other water treatment chemical, and may also contain
mercury, copper, aluminum and camdium. They are over 80 times more toxic
than naturally-occurring calcium fluoride. Also, recent research
suggests that the addition of silicofluorides to water is a risk factor
for elevated lead exposure, particularly among residents who live in
homes with old pipes. These by-products are considered highly toxic
hazardous waste chemicals by the EPA and are a violation of federal law
when dumped directly into the environment & doing so is considered an
act of terrorism, yet these same by-products are somehow allowed to be
added to our water for human consumption, then processed through our
wastewater plants to find their way into and contaminate our communities
streams, creeks and lakes?!

As far as 'Health Effects' are concerned - Given the new research and
studies that have been done, there is NO benefit that can come from
fluoridating our water, but rather a multitude of risks. According to
the National Academy of Sciences, fluoride is not an essential nutrient
and no amount of fluoride is necessary in the human body. All water
treatment chemicals, with the exception of fluoride, are added to make
drinking water safe and pleasant to consume. Fluoride is the only
chemical added to treat the people who consume the water, rather than
the water itself. Fluoridating water supplies can thus fairly be
described as a form of mass medication. Regardless of how much purified
water anyone buys for drinking, cooking, pets and watering plants; even
a home water filtration system would not help this concern as fluoride
is also absorbed by the skin and through inhalation while we shower,
bathe, clean our faces and brush our teeth. It is a very small ion
(atomic number 9) and it cannot thoroughly be 'filtered' out of water.

Fluoride is a proven neurotoxin; it causes birth defects, impairs the
immune system, causes muscular weakness, gastrointestinal symptoms, bone
disease, ulcers, and joint symptoms; it suppresses thyroid function,
calcifies the pineal gland, causes infertility, reduced IQ and permanent
disfiguration of teeth - to name a few. Fluoride is also a cumulative
poison. While small amounts taken on a daily basis may not be
noticeable, the long term effects will definitely affect a persons
quality of life as it builds up in the body. Fluoride is a drug with
side effects. The FDA classifies fluoride supplements as unapproved
drugs and reports "this drug has not been found by FDA to be safe and
effective,"because no safety experiments were ever performed."

My fear is that the majority are not properly educated & informed and I
think it's important that we bring awareness to this issue & stop the
'fluoride' (Hydrofluorosilicic Acid) treatment of our water. "



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Semper Paratus

Steven Bornfeld

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Feb 27, 2013, 6:23:16 PM2/27/13
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On 2/27/2013 5:38 PM, Domitius Corbulo wrote:


(snip)

Most states should have reports available on water quality, including
levels of toxic contaminants.
For example, there is as much information as you would want for NY State:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/23837.html

Domitius Corbulo

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Feb 28, 2013, 8:42:24 AM2/28/13
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What it comes down to is how well do we trust the water boards and their
reports. I have lived in 8 states and all of them provided a report on
water quality. There was only one with near perfect, clear and clean
water right out of the tap. That was in Washington State & I can't say
that for the entire state. We lived on the Kitsap Peninsula.

We live in our travel trailer up to 3 months at a time for perhaps half
a year to visit friends and relatives. We use water from the supermarket
reverse osmosis machines and so far we have not had any
trouble. We do this at home as well. We do not drink tap water. At one
house I had a full house filter system I installed. First was a string
filter, second was activated charcoal for taste and odor. We still did
not drink the water because it passed through uranium deposits and was
contaminated with radioactive alpha emitters that filters will not remove.

The worst water we had to live with was in Eastern Pennsylvania. The
builder showed me a glass full of water from the tap and said, "DO not
drink this water! Get yourself a top of the line water treatment
system." I did at a cost of $3500. We were still afraid to drink it. We
were told that 33% of the water comes from Artesian wells. This was the
good news but 33% comes from the Delaware River which is not so good
news and the other 33% comes from the local sewage treatment plant of
which they tell us we could drink that water right from the plant and it
would be safe. It was yellow in color and had an odor to it.

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Steven Bornfeld

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Feb 28, 2013, 9:19:04 AM2/28/13
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Of course if someone is using well water, there can be tremendous
differences in quality from place to place.
When I was younger, I did a lot of cycling around the east. One of the
places we'd return to was Lancaster County. The water was very hard,
and some of the water had an awful sulfurous smell and taste. This was
a particular problem on one very hot day, when I ran out of water.
After almost 100 miles riding, we stopped at a farm for water, and the
choice was between heat exhaustion and getting sick to my stomach from
the water smell. Heat exhaustion won out that day--the water was that foul.
I think that access to clean water is one of the biggest problems in
the developing world. Except for those places with naturally-occuring
extraordinarily high levels of fluoride, IMO fluoride is near the very
bottom of the list of problems.
I'm a dentist, and I know from long experience and reading what the
benefits and risks of water fluoridation are. But I don't get into
arguments on the web anymore about it, so feel free to carry on.

Steve

Sanders Kaufman

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Feb 28, 2013, 11:52:12 AM2/28/13
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"bill clinton" wrote in message news:kglkn9$9dm$1...@dont-email.me...

> No, I side with the facts. And the facts say you're a fuckin
>liar.

So, you don't believe that the condom store was shot up?
Or do you just not believe it was your fellow right-wing psychos?

Waldo

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Feb 28, 2013, 9:08:19 PM2/28/13
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It doesn't matter, everything you say is a lie or propaganda for our
enemies.

the man

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Mar 15, 2013, 8:05:54 AM3/15/13
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In article <kgm1r0$mkc$1...@dont-email.me>,
Heavy Metals and Autism link?


>> Study finds higher levels of several toxic metals in children with
>> autism
>> Posted in: Faculty, Research
>>
>> James Adams, a professor of materials science and engineering, has
>> done extensive research into autism. He directs the ASU Autism/
>> Asperger¹s Research Program.
>> Posted February 25, 2013
>>
>> In a recently published study in the journal Biological Trace Element
>> Research, Arizona State University researchers report that children
>> with autism had higher levels of several toxic metals in their blood
>> and urine compared to typical children. The study involved 55 children
>> with autism ages 5­16 years compared to 44 controls of similar age and
>> gender.
>>
>> The autism group had significantly higher levels of lead in their red
>> blood cells (+41 percent) and significantly higher urinary levels of
>> lead (+74 percent), thallium (+77 percent), tin (+115 percent), and
>> tungsten (+44 percent). Lead, thallium, tin, and tungsten are toxic
>> metals that can impair brain development and function, and also
>> interfere with the normal functioning of other body organs and
>> systems.
>>
>> A statistical analysis was conducted to determine if the levels of
>> toxic metals were associated with autism severity, using three
>> different scales of autism severity. It was found that 38-47 percent
>> of the variation of autism severity was associated with the level of
>> several toxic metals, with cadmium and mercury being the most strongly
>> associated.
>>
>> In the paper about the study, the authors state ³We hypothesize that
>> reducing early exposure to toxic metals may help ameliorate symptoms
>> of autism, and treatment to remove toxic metals may reduce symptoms of
>> autism; these hypotheses need further exploration, as there is a
>> growing body of research to support it.²
>>
>> The study was led by James Adams, a President¹s Professor in the
>> School for Engineering of Matter, Transport and Energy, one of ASU¹s
>> Ira A. Fulton Schools of Engineering. He directs the ASU Autism/
>> Asperger¹s Research Program.
>>
>> Adams previously published a study on the use of DMSA, an FDA-approved
>> medication for removing toxic metals. The open-label study found that
>> DMSA was generally safe and effective at removing some toxic metals.
>> It also found that DMSA therapy improved some symptoms of autism. The
>> biggest improvement was for children with the highest levels of toxic
>> metals in their urine.
>>
>> Overall, children with autism have higher average levels of several
>> toxic metals, and levels of several toxic metals are strongly
>> associated with variations in the severity of autism for all three of
>> the autism severity scales investigated.
>>
>> The study was funded by the Autism Research Institute and the Legacy
>> Foundation.
>>
>> Media Contact:
>> Joe Kullman, joe.k...@asu.edu
>> (480) 965-8122
>> Ira A. Fulton Schools of Engineering
>>
>>
>> Who loves ya.
>> Tom
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Man Is A Herbivore!
>> http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>>
>>
>> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
>> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>Hey, what about Mercury? you know the "Mad Hatter"
>It is a rather "conductive" metal. R.U. short circuited?

Mercury is not a metal, it is a planet. If you mean the metal, don't
write it with a capital M please.
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Karma ; what a concept!
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