CF celebrities: Diamanda Galas on chlidbirth and motherhood
Marley Greiner
motherhood:
I'm hostile to the act of childbirth--I've always found the concept of
childbirth to be a morbid one at best--something nostalgic that a West Coast
"return to nature" cult would espouse. I'm hostile to the idea of being a
medium for this capitalist enterprise of childbearing which is about the
male ego recognizing itself in the next generation. I exist outside that
sort of pedestrian enterprise--so demeaning to women. I prefer the concept
of woman as goddess--in a shamanistic society, no shaman has children. So
in 1985 I had my tubes tied......
"New breeding makes no sense at all--there's already too many kids around;
you can adopt one. What about protecting the unfortunate children who
already exist on this planet? I was talking to Rachel Rosenthal (godmother
of performance art) about this. I told her I had my tubes tied and she
said I should get a fucking medal for this.....
I try to make my life consistent with my political beliefs: I'm not going
to say, "I want a family like everyone else because my children (of course)
will be *'terribly special"*. Fuck that--I'll get some goldfish and some
cats and they'll be *"terribly special."* Every witch has cats--you never
hear of a witch having children."
Excerpts from Angry Women (Re/Search), 1991
Well what can you say after that???
Marley
clutterbug
Marley Greiner wrote:
Brava?
-Mb
MRFeathers
That works. But also--at the risk of exposing my ignorance once again:
Who *is* Diamanda Galas?
Mary
Marley Greiner
"MRFeathers" <mrfea...@aol.comarama> wrote in message
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She's a very intensne performance artist with the most amazing voice (3 1/2
octave range) Some of her more famous works are Plague Mass and The Masque
of Red Death. I saw her perform Plague Mass, complete with blood.
Marley
MRFeathers
>octave range) Some of her more famous works are Plague Mass and The Masque
>of Red Death. I saw her perform Plague Mass, complete with blood.
>
>Marley
Thanks.
3 1/2 octaves? Wow. I think my entire vocal range is about an octave and a
half.
Mary
Jbkred
>motherhood
>From: "Marley Greiner" <maddog...@worldnet.att.net>
>Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2001 18:04 EST
>Message-id: <oIVL7.195575$3d2.8...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Archive!!!
Golightly Grrl
L O U P
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Just that not all witches have cats ... *grins* ... some of us have dogs!!!
Other than that : ARCHIVE!!! = 0)
LOUPY
Kathryn Hudson
dogs!!!
Other than that : ARCHIVE!!! = 0)
LOUPY<<<
LOL! I have six cats and unfortunately, I know many Witches with children!
I prefer furry familiars.
Kathryn
Jasminsalt
YES!!!!! Score another one for a woman that is not a fencesitter! Kim
stePH
> > That works. But also--at the risk of exposing my ignorance once again:
> >
> > Who *is* Diamanda Galas?
> >
> > Mary
>
> She's a very intensne performance artist with the most amazing voice (3 1/2
> octave range) Some of her more famous works are Plague Mass and The Masque
> of Red Death. I saw her perform Plague Mass, complete with blood.
>
> Marley
I've never heard of her either, but at least it seems there's some
actual ART in her "performance art" ...
Music, dance and theater are performance arts. Putting a contact
microphone on your throat and drinking carrot juice (to cite one absurd
example of "performance art") is not.
I also applaud her words on childbirth and motherhood.
stePH
--
"Learning to dislike children at an early age saves a lot of expense and
aggravation later in life." -- Robert Byrne
Ryenna
>actual ART in her "performance art" ...
>Music, dance and theater are performance arts. Putting a contact
>microphone on your throat and drinking carrot juice (to cite one absurd
>example of "performance art") is not.
>
To quote from the Reduced Shakespeare Company: "I love performance art... it's
soooo.....
pretentious."
-Ry
--
"Hey kids, check out my BONE SAW!"
-Manny Calavera "Grim Fandango"
binko
I will do it tonight.
LA area residents can see her perform on November 29th...see you there!
IleneB
<acet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Putting a contact
> microphone on your throat and drinking carrot juice (to cite one absurd
> example of "performance art") is not.
You mean you don't want to see Karen Findley (or is it Finley) perform
her deathless work, "Yams Up My Granny's Ass?"
Ilene B
Marley Greiner
"IleneB" <ile...@shore.net> wrote in message
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About 8 years ago I saw this "performance" piece in Columbus by some
feminist "artist" whose name escapes me, but she was not one of the big
names. She stood on this rubber/plastic thing that resembled an uninflated
child's swimming pool that had pockets in it. Then she threw blood (or
something that represented blood) all over it, walked around in circles and
pulled out letters to Nathaniel Hawthorne she'd written and read them to us.
Most people just sat there with a WTF deer-in-the-headlights I paid good
money for this look on their face.
Marley
Sunfell
And if you notice, they're not doing terribly high quality work once
they spawn. Wannabe Witches, Shamans and Mages have their own kids,
and then wonder where their magick got off to. This gal is right: Real
Witches, Shamans and Mages don't have kids of their own- instead, they
have apprentices. They leave the grunt-work and butt-wiping to someone
else, and get someone who is already literate, housebroken, and
actually wants to learn the Craft. Then it's wax-on, wax-off for a few
years, to get them going. Real Witches, Shamans and Mages are devoted
to their Craft first and foremost. They don't need no stinkin' kids to
validate their existence. Their work does that.
Of course, were I to wade into a New Age Witchcraft site and suggest
that any spawners should throw in their hats and brooms, I'd get
flamed to a crisp. But the Gods know their Own.
Sunfell- Genuine TechMage, and not a bit ashamed of it. :-)
binko
Diamanda Galas at Joe's Pub, New York on 8/31/01
("I Put a Spell on You" ends)
We all know that was written by the great, great Screamin' Jay Hawkins
(applause)
who had a lot of charm and when he died they found out there were 50
women still carrying his child.
When I went to his concert I could understand that, even though I'm not
a breeder myself. But I can honestly say that in this room tonight...
there are 50 men carrying my child.
(whoops and applause)
Thank you so much.
(more whoops)
But if one of them looks like Sandra Bernhard, KILL IT.
(laughter)
KILL. IT.
(laughter and applause)
(next song begins)
mroo philpott-smythe
>
> Singer/composer/performance artist Diamanda Galas on childbirth and
> motherhood:
I adore that woman! Read Shit of God, by Diamanda. YESSS!
mroo philpott-smythe
> mbr said:
> >Marley Greiner wrote:
> >
> >> Singer/composer/performance artist Diamanda Galas on childbirth and
> >> motherhood:
[schnippito]
> Who *is* Diamanda Galas?
a brilliant, simply brilliant musician/singer. she was a premed student
at Cal Berkeley, i believe, and got hooked on heroin. she then started
tricking on San Pablo Ave to feed her habit. do a Google on diamanda.
she's unbelievable. she royally pissed off the pope after blasting him
for being a sexist breederho and he tried to have her thrown out of
rome. she's much known and loved in other countries. i think her
attitude gets her in trouble with the sheeple in the U.S. she tends to
be, um, outspoken.
she's a hella pianist and handles all her own sound equipment. her only
brother died of AIDS, and Plague Mass commemorates him. fabulous
fucking voice.
sq
binko
well...credit where credit is due...just yesterday I (barely) helped
her wonderful, hard-working, ever-present, and childfree engineer
hump 120 pounds of her stuff back from LA, and I've seen him carry more
than that!
Otherwise, though, you're right on the mark, and her latest work,
Defixiones, has grown considerably from its Gent premiere...watch for
her coming to your town; this is a good one to see.
mroo philpott-smythe
oh, my. gimme all the dirt, don't hold back. what's she doing, and
what's it sound like to yez?
sq
"nope, not a fan. not me. don't believe in fanning"