'Babyholic' mother's 15th child
Tired8686
Aurorajinx
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>No comment.
"Sick" first came to mind. Then "at least they have normal names and seem to
be able to afford them" came next.
Aurora
~~~~~~~~~~~~
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One-day admission to the Magic Kingdom: $50, give or take.
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Anne
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>No comment.
Sheesh, and people think buying too many books is insane!
--anne
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Henry
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> No comment.
Whenever a story like this would appear in the news, me old ma always
said, 'Well, _her_ place in Heaven is assured'.
As I got older, I started muttering things like 'socially irresponsible'
and 'overpopulation', leading eventually to 'fucking Catholics'--which
the old ma remained, of course, but from which intellectual gangsterism
I had managed to break free.
Still, seeing a story like this now, even after all these years, makes
me want to puke.
Actually, it reminds me of some great lines from a great Steeleye Span
version (The Black Freighter) of a great song (Pirate Jenny) from
Weill/Brecht's great _Threepenny Opera_:
And they're chaining up the people and they're bringing them to me,
Asking me: Kill them now or later?
Asking me: Kill them now or later?
Noon on the clock and so still on the dock,
You could hear a foghorn miles away.
In the quiet of death I'll say:
Kill 'em now.
cheers,
Henry
NellePas
"Tired8686" <tire...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Maybe she should get fertility treatments so she can have seven at once.
What a rush that would be!
Erik Courter
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Oh, the horror...
This might have been better titled 'Better argument for Forced
Darwinization...'
Check please.
-E
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Terrie Strike
>>
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>>No comment.
>
>Sheesh, and people think buying too many books is insane!
Too mnay books? Please define. I've never run across this concept before. ;)
-Terrie
Marten Kemp
You have too many books when the floor begins to sag.
-- Marten Kemp
Darth Ammer
news:3E6B75C1...@earthlink.net:
> You have too many books when the floor begins to sag.
No, that's not too many books, that's floors of insufficient strength.
--
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Esmerelda: Have you sheep strayed so far from the flock?!
Edward: We're not sheep.
The A.S.C FAQ: http://www.altsupportchildfree.com/faq1.html
Marten Kemp
>
> Caine, never too many books - ever
Okay, would you accept "too many for the current conditions?"
Knowing, of course, that this constitues a family emergency
of the first order.
I have books. I have a *bunch* of books. When I was moving out
my ex said, "I'm going to miss your books."
-- Marten Kemp
Gutterboy
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>No comment.
Sez moo: "It's like a drug. I definitely want another one. I think having
babies keeps me young."
Like a drug...exactly.
Her 43-year-old husband said: "There's no stopping her now. But it's getting a
bit tight on room."
Not in her cooter, I'll wager...
Gutterboy
---
""After a lot of soul-searching, I decided to put my family absolutely last."
-- Dame Edna Everage
BookWyrm
>
>Sez moo: "It's like a drug. I definitely want another one. I think having
>babies keeps me young."
Show this moo the picture of that 33-year-old who looks 50.... where was the
url again?
Cristabel
> You have too many books when the floor begins to sag.
>
> -- Marten Kemp
One of Darwin's grandfathers wrote to a friend that the Mrs. had said he
shouldn't buy any more books until he had read some of the ones he already
had.
"What nonsense she sometimes talks."
Cristabel.
Veronique
What a lovely anecdote! I went out with a guy who had separated from
his wife; one of the things he told me was that he had to keep all his
books in the garage because they "were too hard to dust." Thank
heavens his divorce came through.
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Love will get you like a case of anthrax.
Joann Evans
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> >
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> >No comment.
>
> Sheesh, and people think buying too many books is insane!
At least if you find an SO of similar literary tastes, it's easier to
give away, or just toss the duplicates. (I was told essentially this by
someone important to me, who shares an interest in science fiction, so
naturally I replied;
"So they then have to stay together for the sake of the books?)
Joann Evans
>
> Tired8686 <tire...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2829201.stm
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> > No comment.
>
> Whenever a story like this would appear in the news, me old ma always
> said, 'Well, _her_ place in Heaven is assured'.
But she doesn't seem to realize she's in Hell already.
Is there a 12-step program for 'babyholics...?'
Joann Evans
Uh, was that 'rush' or 'gush?'
Karlyn Brown
Is there a 12-step program for 'babyholics...?'
bitch is sprog hoarding. I wonder if anyone wil notice she has a disease
before some of them become emaciated, live in their own feces and die?
Karlyn B
" 'Civilized war" is as impossible a paradox as tender torture." -
Willis Abbot, 1914
Xintarr
wrote:
>One of Darwin's grandfathers wrote to a friend that the Mrs. had said he
>shouldn't buy any more books until he had read some of the ones he already
>had.
>
>"What nonsense she sometimes talks."
I'll have to remember that one for the next time DH gets at me for my
impulse-buys.
Xintarr, who buys 'em faster than she can read 'em
----------------------------------------
"I was one of those awful mothers who watched over my kid, and who sent
good food to school. As an adult, she tells me she traded her apples
for someone's Twinkies (?!) but knew all along that HER mother sent
her good food. My dd also did not have abortions, as her friends did."
~ AOL breeder on the evils of convenience food
Rod Rescueman
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> No comment.
So I wonder which one of those kids is going to be yelling "Soylent
Green is PEOPLE" in the future???
RR
circusgirl
My uncle now has a policy that he doesn't acquire a new book unless he
can find one to get rid of. His home is wall-to-wall bookcases in
pretty much every room execpt the kitchen :-). Funnily, so is my
parents', but they have a big attic...
circusgirl (hasn't got very many books, as I spent my childhood and
teenage years reading my parents' collections)
circusgirl
> >Tired wrote:
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2829201.stm
> >
> >No comment.
>
> "Sick" first came to mind. Then "at least they have normal names and seem to
> be able to afford them" came next.
>
>
indeed, one of my friends told me once about a family in her village
who lived in a 2-bedroom, or was it a 3-bedroom, terraced house, with
their 12 children. The local joke was that the sire of this litter got
"one shag a year". Every year, like clockwork, "she popped out another
sprog". When the announcement of another pregnancy was made, the local
men would ask the husband, so you got another shag then?
I hate to think what living conditions inside their home was like. I
bet all the kids turned out to be neat freaks who save up and buy
4-bedroom appartment to live in on their own, with lots of EMPTY
SPROG-FREE SPACE.
circusgirl
Rabbit
> can find one to get rid of. His home is wall-to-wall bookcases in
> pretty much every room execpt the kitchen :-). Funnily, so is my
> parents', but they have a big attic...
>
My office (the spare bedroom) is wall-to-wall, and I've got a shelf in the
bedroom and one in the living room. I've got 2,500 books ... what other
numbers do we have in the group?
Rabbit
Hatter
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> No comment.
The world is running out of fresh water
"but having babies is such a rush"
You only have so much attention to divide amongst your children
"but having babies is such a rush"
Your house is getting crowded
"but having bavies is such a rush"
You probably can't afford to put them all through college
"but having babies is such a rush"
Other people are footing the bill for your decisions
"but having babies is such a rush"
The landfills are filling up with diapers
"but having babies is such a rush"
the country is going to war over natural resources
"but having babies is such a rush"
Your husband is overworked and tired
"but having babies is such a rush"
The countryside is dissapearing under new homes
"but having babies is such a rush"
Don't you it's impossible to control that many children
"but having babies is such a rush"
when people are densly packed, quality of life and freedoms dissapear
"Don't you get it, having babies is such a rush. It's my drug of
choice I don't care that I'm littering up the biosphere with more
consumers, that I'm killing myself, that it effects other people,
including the children I've already had. They are no longer babies, so
they no longer feed my craving. I will lie, cheat, and steal for the
sweet sweet feeling of holding a creature dependent on me for a year,
it socially acceptable herion"
Hatter
that sums up her outlook for me
Patrick M Geahan
> At least if you find an SO of similar literary tastes, it's easier to
> give away, or just toss the duplicates.
TOSS THE DUPLICATES?
<waits for heartbeat to calm down>
People actually throw books out?
--
-------Patrick M Geahan---...@chartermi.net---ICQ:3784715------
Quote of the Week: "I probably won't start on the idea, and if I do it
will wind up being an unfinished project on my personal website featuring
pictures of my cat." rh2600 on /.
Marten Kemp
>
> Joann Evans <gree...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > At least if you find an SO of similar literary tastes, it's easier to
> > give away, or just toss the duplicates.
>
> TOSS THE DUPLICATES?
>
> <waits for heartbeat to calm down>
>
> People actually throw books out?
Yes. If it won't pass the "do I want to read this again?" test,
then it gets donated to the library's book sale.
After moving 3 times in 2 years everything I have left, *including
duplicates*, I'm keeping.
-- Marten Kemp
Patrick M Geahan
> Yes. If it won't pass the "do I want to read this again?" test,
> then it gets donated to the library's book sale.
OK, I thought the OP meant 'throw them in the trash'. Lots of my books
get donated or resold.
Ron Sullivan
veroniq...@yahoo.com wrote on 3/9/03 6:20 PM:
> ... I went out with a guy who had separated from
> his wife; one of the things he told me was that he had to keep all his
> books in the garage because they "were too hard to dust." Thank
> heavens his divorce came through.
<snort> For her sake, too, unintelligible though I find her reasoning. What,
he couldn't dust the damn things himself?
Ron Sullivan
Chez Dusty Books
http://www.faultline.org
--
Size doesn't matter; torque does...
Abbie F., ascf
Hatter
I guess that should be too many books for your living space or budget.
If you have so many books that you need to move books to get to the
books you want, that's too many.
I remember going to as estate auction and buying the book lot for $3.
Everthing else I bought fit into a back pack. Had to leave books
behind because to add more would have made driving the 86 Grand
Marquis dangerous. I went to throw some out(only 15 realllllly out of
date titles, Like High School math for Business from the mid 40s) and
Dad rescued them. Mom freaked.
Hatter
who has too many books. Had to move one of the WWII history stacks to
get at the Voodoun shelf last week. Oh and I need to pay the hardware
store lady for the colonial art history books and pick those up this
Saturday.
Rabbit
> > At least if you find an SO of similar literary tastes, it's easier to
> > give away, or just toss the duplicates.
>
> TOSS THE DUPLICATES?
>
> <waits for heartbeat to calm down>
>
> People actually throw books out?
>
I've actually heard that rumor, but I don't believe it's true.
Rabbit
MRFeathers
>>
>> <waits for heartbeat to calm down>
>>
>> People actually throw books out?
>>
>
>I've actually heard that rumor, but I don't believe it's true.
>
>Rabbit
I put one in the recycle bin once, but that was a James Patterson novel and it
really, really deserved to be there.
It's the only book I can ever recall starting to read and not finishing.
Mary
JesterKat
Geahan<pmge...@chartermi.net> wrote:
>> At least if you find an SO of similar literary tastes, it's easier to
>> give away, or just toss the duplicates.
>
>TOSS THE DUPLICATES?
>
><waits for heartbeat to calm down>
>
>People actually throw books out?
Welllll, those of us who are more mercenary sometimes sell them on
half.com. And then take the profits and buy new books.
---JesterKat
***************
Question all as to their ways
And learn the secrets that they hold
---Jethro Tull
Veronique
> in article 3c499a9e.03030...@posting.google.com, Veronique at
> veroniq...@yahoo.com wrote on 3/9/03 6:20 PM:
>
> > ... I went out with a guy who had separated from
> > his wife; one of the things he told me was that he had to keep all his
> > books in the garage because they "were too hard to dust." Thank
> > heavens his divorce came through.
>
> <snort> For her sake, too, unintelligible though I find her reasoning. What,
> he couldn't dust the damn things himself?
Yeah, there's that, but apparently there was a fair amount of
territoriality involved, wherein what was inside the house was her
responsibility (in a passive-aggressive way, eg, his attempts to help
were "interfering".) One reason he found me so refreshing; not only
was dusting not on the radar, I had no preconveived ideas about what
gender did or did not permit one to accomplish.
circusgirl
Some people I know, apparently, years ago did the following. The got
everyone to nominate the world's worst book. The winner was one f L
R0n H-bbard's science fiction novels (pre-sc--ntology era - don't want
them coming to this group). Of course, burning books is immoral, so
one of them brought it with him to the university rifle range and
filled it full of lead.
circusgirl
stePH
If I have books I don't want (and I'm having to make space for the
ones I *do* want*) then I box them up and take them to the local used
bookstore. If they're not buying, I'll take them to the library.
If the library doesn't want 'em, then a'recycling I will go.
stePH
--
Today's waste is tomorrow's overtime.
CatWoman
> "Rabbit" <rab...@hotstar.net> wrote
>>>>give away, or just toss the duplicates.
>>>
>>>TOSS THE DUPLICATES?
>>>
>>><waits for heartbeat to calm down>
>>>
>>>People actually throw books out?
>>
>>I've actually heard that rumor, but I don't believe it's true.
>
> ones I *do* want*) then I box them up and take them to the local used
> bookstore. If they're not buying, I'll take them to the library.
>
> If the library doesn't want 'em, then a'recycling I will go.
One other option before you do the recycling - take them to
a local hospice, nursing home or even hospital. I sent a bunch
of Harlequins to a nursing home (where my Underfoot's 'mom' is).
Can be useful when someone is stressed to have mind candy to
disappear into, especially if you don't wind up regretting missing
the end.
dg
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REP
CatWoman <catwom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I give all my magazines to the hospital or medical building. Makes me
feel I'm really getting my money's worth out of my subscriptions that
way, plus other patiens have something else to read besides People.
Marten Kemp
Once Upon A Time, when I was going through Las Vegas, I donated a
box of books to one of, ahem, *those* places. Hey, they work two
week shifts without much intellectual activity, so why not?
-- Marten Kemp
Winnie
> My office (the spare bedroom) is wall-to-wall, and I've got a shelf in the
> bedroom and one in the living room. I've got 2,500 books ... what other
> numbers do we have in the group?
>
> Rabbit
Hardly any - a few atlases and reference books here, a few irreplacables
like antique farming books stored at my parents' house waiting to be shipped
over. Sadly, as part of starting afresh in a new land, almost all my books
were sold or donated.
I'm learning every nook and cranny of the local library......
Winnie
Terrie Strike
I have no clue. As a prelude to moving out of my folks place, I was forced to
sell off 1/3 of my stuff, and most of the rest is in storage. Yet, despite a
distinct lack of room (I live in a *tiny* studio apartment), I still manage
20-30 bokos with me. Plus the 10-15 items from the library at any given time.
My simple pleasure of the day: A book I thought wasn't coming out until June
is already out. And my local library already has it. Yippee!
-Terrie
Jay
>> My office (the spare bedroom) is wall-to-wall, and I've got a shelf in the
>> bedroom and one in the living room. I've got 2,500 books ... what other
>> numbers do we have in the group?
Certainly more than 3,500.
I'd have to build more shelves and unpack more to be sure.
Morwen
(in message <BAA3EB1E.6FC7%j...@siberian.org>):
I'm too frightened to add them up. My To Be Read bookshelf has at least two
hundred books on it, and that's a small fraction of the already-read books I
own (or that own me).
I am becoming increasingly ruthless in weeding my collection, so the
situation is improving. DH likes the fact that I can go to the bookstore with
two boxes of books to trade in for store credit and return with just a few
new books (purchased with said credit). I'm culling like crazy, since with
the exception of Tolkien I hardly ever reread books anymore. I keep the
majority of the nonfiction books I read for reference purposes, but fiction
has to be exceptionally good before I'll keep it these days.
Morwen
Toth's Scribe
That assumes that the number stays static long enough to count! I'm
selling off a lot of my old books, particularly college texts I've
schlepped from house to house for years but not reread. Then, I'm
catching up on old series books via half.com and attempting
(unsuccessfully) to limit myself to a single amazon.com order per
month. Plus, I was a collector for a while and am now looking to sell
off the collection to fund the hobby du jour.
I have no clue how many books I own. I do know that I have a
bookshelf in every single room of my house (including the bathroom),
plus I've converted the dining room into a library, and it's still not
enough room.
And even if I went home and counted, it would change the minute I
logged onto Amazon or answered a sale notice from half.com.
T's Scribe
kaylar
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 22:52:14 -0500, Jay wrote
> (in message <BAA3EB1E.6FC7%j...@siberian.org>):
>
> >>>
>
> situation is improving. DH likes the fact that I can go to the bookstore with
> two boxes of books to trade in for store credit and return with just a few
> new books (purchased with said credit). I'm culling like crazy, since with
> the exception of Tolkien I hardly ever reread books anymore. I keep the
> majority of the nonfiction books I read for reference purposes, but fiction
> has to be exceptionally good before I'll keep it these days.
>
> Morwen
I have 2100 books, about 60% HB, mainly history, biography, theology,
mythology/folklore.What fiction I have (about 1/4 of the total) is
mainly SF/Fantasy.
I've tried to cull books in the past, and invariably, if a book was
culled, 6 months down the road I'd regret it and either want to reread
it for fun, or need to consult it. So I've given up...Unless I hate a
book, it's mine forever, and my library is growing like kudzu. I'll
wind up one of those weird elderly people who die and aren't found
till months later, and the cops'll barely be able to move through the
piled up, boxed up books and magazines. The only way to move through
the place will be through tunnels in the 'reading material maze'.
Bibliomaniac habitrails.
Cheryl Greer
pa...@iland.net (kaylar) wrote:
>
> I have 2100 books, about 60% HB, mainly history, biography, theology,
> mythology/folklore.What fiction I have (about 1/4 of the total) is
> mainly SF/Fantasy.
Compared to everyone else here, I have hardly any books. :) Maybe
500. I like books, but I hate clutter. I do a lot of reading, but I
don't really buy very many books due to the clutter issue and the steep
prices (Yes, yes, I know. I should shop at used book shops, yard sales,
etc etc. They never have anything I want.) I've really cut down on
buying books since I more or less stopped reading fiction a few years
ago. I use the library heavily.
I've also stopped being sentimental about books. I've had to own up
to the fact that I just DON'T re-read. Ever. So almost every time I buy
new books, something gets weeded to make room.
Cheryl
--
"I like Johnny Cash and Grand Master Flash."
-Kid Rock
Heather Garvey
>> I've got 2,500 books ... what other numbers do we have in the group?
>
>That assumes that the number stays static long enough to count!
That's what I have Readerware for - it tells me how many records
are in the database every time I close it after scanning my new
purchases in.
1747. http://www.readerware.com/
--
--
Heather Garvey "You think you own ALL the cereal. Well, you know
ra...@xnet.com what, Dib? You DON'T. You just DON'T!"
-- Gaz, _Invader ZIM_
Veronique
I'll //me too!// that. I used to keep a book come hell or high water;
now I keep reference books, horror short story collections (but they'd
better be good ones), comic anthologies, and some novels I know I will
read again. And a few children's books, some books with personal
history, and oh yeah, the collection of Dick Francis paperbacks. And
the Conan Doyle short-stories. And the poetry volumes...
I've still got a huge number of books, but a more comfortable number.
I also use the library extensively. I guess I've reduced my need to
personally own books, which is one more step in reducing my need to
own, period.
J.W.T. Meakin
toths...@aol.com says...
> > I've got 2,500 books ... what other numbers do we have in the group?
>
Rat and Swan
My own collection has fluctuated between around 3,000 and 200, depending
of circumstances. Currently, I'd say Swanage has around 1,000 in varying
degrees of storage/shelving.
Oldest books are my great great great grandfather's medical books from
the early 1800's, also Rat's great grandfather's pre Civil War history
of slavery. Very cool! Somewhere I have a French volume from the 1700's,
but it may have been lost in a move.
Wierdest books include a history of Chinese footbinding, a Latin
treatise on curing fistula-in-ano, a Victorian volume on venereal
diseases and manyseveral Loompanics Press volumes on torture, disguise
techniques, revenge, etc.
Most Regretted Throwaway: My copy of The Sexuality of Jesus in
Renaissance Paintings. That was truly a great book.
Swan