MOO: Portrait of a failing breedermarriage
nokomis
I'm sorry, I did it again. I wandered over to the Labor of Love message boards
in search of amusement. Then I shamelessly beelined for Trainwreck Central, the
"Marriage & Relationship Issues" board.
Now this one is a long one, so move along if your attention span is short. Link
is below - note the thread is several pages.
The story opens with Moo posting an impassioned plea for advice. Moo, married
two years, "together" for twelve(*), is due to pop #1 in six weeks. Duh has
"suddenly" decided that he wants out. Moo and Duh are scheduled for counseling.
The other moos all start mooing about how awwwwful it is that her eeeevil
babydaddy could dooooo something like that to her when she's preeeeeeegnunt.
The MooChorus stays similar. (Actually, it's the same refrain in all the
threads on the board. Pregmoos are always blameless because they're doing the
Hardest Job In The World.)
As the thread moves along (two months worth), more of Moo's story comes out.
Moo and the MooChorus paint us a pretty picture of a poor, put upon woman who is
making the Ultimate Sacrifice (making a baybeee) in the face of the Ultimate
Tragedy (discovering that Duh is a selfish, cheating, male chauvanist pig) and
should be sainted for making it through it all.
Maybe that's what a Moo would see.
What I see? I see a manipulative shrew that turned so babyrabied that she
totally shut out the supposed love of her life(**), enough such that he became
distanced enough to take a long, hard look at Moo and realize that she's a
manipulative shrew. I also see a woman so obsessed to be the martyr that she's
looking everywhere for even the tiniest thing that she can use to direct the
blame from anywhere but her own pathetic self.
And I see a MooChorus that wouldn't dare betray one of their own by calling her
an immature brat.
I see a Duh, hardly the paragon of maturity himself, that made a serious
assessment of his marriage and wanted out. He got drama with a big, fat capital
D. Pay particular attention to the demonization (and subsequent undeserved
harassment) of one of his female friends, or how his mother is epitome of evil
for wanting to see her grandsprog.
And then sleep contentedly that you're CF and will never have to deal with this
kind of crap invading your relationships.
The link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2DA524F2
Oh, and be prepared for big animated sigs picturing some of the ugliest beings
ever classified as human. Lurking TLOLers please remember that anything you
post to a public forum is public (inclduing your sprog photos!), and that this
post is in no way advocating the invasion of your space, in the same way we
discourage your invasion of ours. Ppppttthpppt!
-valerie (the other one)
nok...@tdl.com
(*) Kinda reeks of long-time childhood sweetheart. Moo never offers up their
ages, and non-TLOL members like myself can't look at profiles, but she's got the
maturity level of a sixteen year old. Add in the baybee (which retards
emotional maturation) and I'd guess her to be maybe early twenties.
(**) I think it's fair to assume that anybody who posts to TLOL is baybrabied
beyond belief. Hell, there's even a board about "THINKING about trying to
conceive", so future-mommies can play too!
Kent
> The link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2DA524F2
Well, now if someone were to ask me what I learned today, I could mention
"Fert|l|ty Fr!end" <!!!!>
Kent, trying to even fathom a science fiction story in which people posted
their ovulation graphs or whatever they are (never to be a concern of mine)
on the Internet for the universe to see...
J.D. Spangler
<snip>
>D. Pay particular attention to the demonization (and subsequent undeserved
>harassment) of one of his female friends, or how his mother is epitome of
evil
>for wanting to see her grandsprog.
Yeah, that struck me as being a lovely little lynching. For the crime of being
a sympathetic friend - I guess in her world m00mie-to-be doesn't talk to her
friends or doesn't have any - this co-worker is automatically assumed by
everyone to be sleeping with hubby and gets tore up by m00mie-to-be as well.
I think I'd have checked with the cops about harassment if I was the
co-worker after the phone message.
>And then sleep contentedly that you're CF and will never have to deal with
this
>kind of crap invading your relationships.
Oh yeah. Doesn't make things crap-free, but at least we've knocked off some of
the possibilities.
--
Regards,
J.D. Spangler
If I want email I'll ask for it.
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critter
> I'm sorry, I did it again. I wandered over to the Labor of Love message boards
> in search of amusement. Then I shamelessly beelined for Trainwreck Central, the
> "Marriage & Relationship Issues" board.
>
> Now this one is a long one, so move along if your attention span is short. Link
> is below - note the thread is several pages.
>
> The story opens with Moo posting an impassioned plea for advice. Moo, married
> two years, "together" for twelve(*), is due to pop #1 in six weeks. Duh has
> "suddenly" decided that he wants out. Moo and Duh are scheduled for counseling.
>
> The other moos all start mooing about how awwwwful it is that her eeeevil
> babydaddy could dooooo something like that to her when she's preeeeeeegnunt.
> The MooChorus stays similar. (Actually, it's the same refrain in all the
> threads on the board. Pregmoos are always blameless because they're doing the
> Hardest Job In The World.)
Lynn
46.9~DH 72(sev.male factor)married 1/02
4 children from prev.marriage 21,19,17 and 8 m/c Grace 1988
One grand daughter, Caitlin 11 months
#1 IVF/ICSI cancelled on cd 9 (10/31) due to lack of resp.to stims.Gonal F
#2 IVF/ICSI January 2003. Using Gonal F and Orgalutron.
Eccl.3:1
____________________________________________________________________________
A 46 y o woman with 4 children (and with a 72 yo husband)
is undergoing fertility treatments.
L O U P
> A sig from one of the moos:
>
> Lynn
> 46.9~DH 72(sev.male factor)married 1/02
> 4 children from prev.marriage 21,19,17 and 8 m/c Grace 1988
> One grand daughter, Caitlin 11 months
> #1 IVF/ICSI cancelled on cd 9 (10/31) due to lack of resp.to stims.Gonal F
> #2 IVF/ICSI January 2003. Using Gonal F and Orgalutron.
> Eccl.3:1
>
This is the sig that inspired the thread "What if CF sigs looked like that"
... that was a pretty funny look into the lives of our CFers. = )
LOUPY
29.11~DH 25.6 married 10/98
Tubal Ligation Sept 26, 2001
2 furkids Max 3, Korkie 4
#1 car 1993 Chevy Cavalier
#2 truck 1987 Ford F-150 4x4
Psalm 137:9
Veronique
> in search of amusement. Then I shamelessly beelined for Trainwreck Central, the
> "Marriage & Relationship Issues" board.
>
> Now this one is a long one, so move along if your attention span is short. Link
> is below - note the thread is several pages.
>
> The story opens with Moo posting an impassioned plea for advice. Moo, married
> two years, "together" for twelve(*), is due to pop #1 in six weeks. Duh has
> "suddenly" decided that he wants out. Moo and Duh are scheduled for counseling.
[...]
> The link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2DA524F2
From the original trainwreck post:
"...Now what is really confusing to me is that we have been together
for a totally of 12 years, but only married for 2. The reason that we
didn't get married sooner was because he had fears around having
children(1) and being married (due to childhood issues). He sorted
this "stuff"(2) out and realized that we were meant to be together and
couldn't wait to get officially married and start a family(3). So here
we are married with baby #1 on the way and all of a sudden(4) he is
claiming that he has been miserable for many, many years. I just don't
buy it. I mean, our marriage isn't perfect and there are definately
things we should/could work on(5) but I think my pg is bringing up all
sorts of stuff for him...."
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Where to begin with this one small
paragraph out of a long, bitter handwringing post that shrieks of Me
Me Me Me Me (and BayBee!)
(1) This is an overwhelming reason for us CFs to be OUT and VOCAL.
Just think, this poor idiot duh-to-be could have completely remade his
life if only he had realized that marriage does not equal children.
IT'S OK TO NOT HAVE KIDS! IT'S OK TO GET MARRIED AND NOT INTEND TO
HAVE KIDS!
(2) He has issues about having children but she thinks they aren't
really issues (hence the quotemarks about his "stuff"?)-- one wonders
how well he sublimated them in order to go along with the script?
(3) "...couldn't wait to get married *and start a family*..." Methinks
the moo is projecting a wee bit?
(4) "All of a sudden" sounds like he's finally vocalizing being
married to a manipulative shrew. Unhappiness with a twelve year
relationship is something that takes awhile to grow, I think.
(5) OK, hands up, who has been together twelve years and has lots of
things you and your partner need to work on? Now, how many of you
think bringing another human being into your issues is a brilliant
idea? Thought so.
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Love will get you like a case of cat pants.
Kent
>
> Lynn
> 46.9~DH 72(sev.male factor)married 1/02
> 4 children from prev.marriage 21,19,17 and 8 m/c Grace 1988
> One grand daughter, Caitlin 11 months
> #1 IVF/ICSI cancelled on cd 9 (10/31) due to lack of resp.to stims.Gonal F
> #2 IVF/ICSI January 2003. Using Gonal F and Orgalutron.
Does this really mean she is almost 47 and has a *72*-year-old husband!?!
And is yet still trying to get knocked up.
What is "sev male factor", dare I inquire?
> Eccl.3:1
She needs to go down a verse or two for "a time to mourn". Or especially, "a
time to refrain from embracing"!
Kent
mytoysdammit
"Kent" <kmp...@SPAMncBLOCK.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MoGR9.4888$kY3.4...@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>
> Does this really mean she is almost 47 and has a *72*-year-old husband!?!
> And is yet still trying to get knocked up.
> What is "sev male factor", dare I inquire?
>
count, low motility, low sperm quality, etc. If her husband is actually 72 I
don't doubt that he's got one or more of the above problems going
>
Sixkats
wrote:
>A sig from one of the moos:
>
>Lynn
>46.9~DH 72(sev.male factor)married 1/02
>4 children from prev.marriage 21,19,17 and 8 m/c Grace 1988
>One grand daughter, Caitlin 11 months
>#1 IVF/ICSI cancelled on cd 9 (10/31) due to lack of resp.to stims.Gonal F
>#2 IVF/ICSI January 2003. Using Gonal F and Orgalutron.
>Eccl.3:1
>____________________________________________________________________________
>
>A 46 y o woman with 4 children (and with a 72 yo husband)
>is undergoing fertility treatments.
Here's one that got me ...
Christine, 33
Breanna, my preemie, 02/18/97
and Johnnie, my wee cub 08/13/01
My TTA Chart and Our Website and Our Photo Album
Watch Out, I'm Feeling Fat.
+3 Months, 4 Days, 12 Hours, 45 Minutes, 24 Seconds Since I became a
Single Mother.
---------------------------------------
Regrets? Party of One?
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... the upside to these mooboards is that I can find all sorts of cool
little smilies to use in my blog :)
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Random Wolf...
Cori
L O U P
> What is "sev male factor", dare I inquire?
>
It would be too much to ask that it was a severed male factor ... that way
he couldn't reproduce... anyone who breeds at that age needs to be shot!!!
LOUPY
--
Childfreenation.com
Because it sucks to be moo
lo...@theabovedomain.com
Citizen Ted
>"Once that baby's born, pour yourself into the baby!"
If I tried to do that, I'd get 15-25 years.
>"I hope H is as miserable as I am - he now lives in a big house all alone."
That is just freakin' PERFECT. Rarely does one see such a
beautifully compact example of raw, unadulterated fatuousness. I am in
awe.
My mind immediately went to where H is living. I saw a large,
comfortable suburban home with a new Cadillac in the driveway. From
outside, one can hear the dull thump of screwed-down electronica
beats. As we glide through the rain and into a window, we see H on the
sofa, naked from the waist down. Two 25-year old strippers are vying
for mouth-space in his crotch while he happily takes a mighty slug
from a half-full bottle of Belgian beer. He leans over and puts the
bottle down, caresses the girls and lolls his head into the sofa as
waves of ecstasy wash over his smug little psyche.
Miles away, in a weather-beaten duplex, the sound of a small
child screeching at Teutonic volume nearly shatters the thick night
air. Through the door, up the stairs, past the screaming child, we
hear the clicking sound of fingers on a keyboard. There, clad in
stained cotton sweats, is a hunched-over shrew of a woman, pushing
back the frames of her glasses and wrinkling her nose in the bluish
glow of a computer monitor. On the screen, we can read what she's
typing:
"I hope H is as miserable as I am - he now lives in a big
house all alone."
Oh, man. It's just beautiful. It makes me happy and gives me
hope. Life is good.
- TR
- merrily schadenfreuding away.
kuranes
>
> A sig from one of the moos:
>
> Lynn
> 46.9~DH 72(sev.male factor)married 1/02
> 4 children from prev.marriage 21,19,17 and 8 m/c Grace 1988
> One grand daughter, Caitlin 11 months
> #1 IVF/ICSI cancelled on cd 9 (10/31) due to lack of resp.to stims.Gonal F
> #2 IVF/ICSI January 2003. Using Gonal F and Orgalutron.
> Eccl.3:1
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> A 46 y o woman with 4 children (and with a 72 yo husband)
> is undergoing fertility treatments.
What about:
Favorite names for today:
Boys: Jackson Bryn or Noah Bryn
Girls: Ava Celine or Jane Autumn
?!
Cari
--
There is no -way- to peace, peace -is- the way.
kuranes
>
>
> Lynn
> 46.9~DH 72(sev.male factor)married 1/02
> 4 children from prev.marriage 21,19,17 and 8 m/c Grace 1988
> One grand daughter, Caitlin 11 months
> #1 IVF/ICSI cancelled on cd 9 (10/31) due to lack of resp.to stims.Gonal F
> #2 IVF/ICSI January 2003. Using Gonal F and Orgalutron.
> Eccl.3:1
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> A 46 y o woman with 4 children (and with a 72 yo husband)
> is undergoing fertility treatments.
I posted too soon.
~*~Luna (20) and Nerim (22)~*~
~*~married since October 5 2000~*~
~*~And our beautiful baby boy Random Wolf~*~
~*~Born May 1 2002~*~
Random Wolf?!?!?!
That poor child.
Sixkats
Ted) wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 08:14:58 -0800, Lorz <lorz@pacifythis!.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Once that baby's born, pour yourself into the baby!"
>
> If I tried to do that, I'd get 15-25 years.
>
>>"I hope H is as miserable as I am - he now lives in a big house all alone."
>
> That is just freakin' PERFECT. Rarely does one see such a
>beautifully compact example of raw, unadulterated fatuousness. I am in
>awe.
> My mind immediately went to where H is living. I saw a large,
>comfortable suburban home with a new Cadillac in the driveway. From
>outside, one can hear the dull thump of screwed-down electronica
>beats. As we glide through the rain and into a window, we see H on the
>sofa, naked from the waist down. Two 25-year old strippers are vying
>for mouth-space in his crotch while he happily takes a mighty slug
>from a half-full bottle of Belgian beer. He leans over and puts the
>bottle down, caresses the girls and lolls his head into the sofa as
>waves of ecstasy wash over his smug little psyche.
Ted, you really should be writing novels, yannow.
6
Caelan
LOL! Here's mine:
25.3~DF 25.6
Tubal Ligation pending
2 furkids Pandian 8, Kaisa 1
#1 car 1999 Saturn SC1
#2 car 1997 Jeep TJ
#3 car 1998 Chrysler Sebring JXi
Psalm What would Jebus do...for a Kl0ndike bar?
Caelan.
Sixkats
wrote:
>"L O U P" <ema...@addyinsig.com> wrote in message news:<U%FR9.98663$I23.5...@news1.east.cox.net>...
>> LOUPY
>> 29.11~DH 25.6 married 10/98
>> Tubal Ligation Sept 26, 2001
>> 2 furkids Max 3, Korkie 4
>> #1 car 1993 Chevy Cavalier
>> #2 truck 1987 Ford F-150 4x4
>> Psalm 137:9
>
>LOL! Here's mine:
>
>25.3~DF 25.6
>Tubal Ligation pending
>2 furkids Pandian 8, Kaisa 1
>#1 car 1999 Saturn SC1
>#2 car 1997 Jeep TJ
>#3 car 1998 Chrysler Sebring JXi
>Psalm What would Jebus do...for a Kl0ndike bar?
This one's fun.
SIXKATS
36.5~noDH happily divorced 4/02
Tubal Ligation Nov 5, 1999
7 dependents -
Missey 14.5, Twinkie 6, Ginger 5, Mo 4, Zoe 4, Jasmine 4, Calvin 2.5
#1 car 1998 Mustang GT
Psalm Sometimes you just have to say ... "What the Fuck?".
Sol Taibi
> in search of amusement. Then I shamelessly beelined for Trainwreck Central, the
> "Marriage & Relationship Issues" board.
>
> Now this one is a long one, so move along if your attention span is short. Link
> is below - note the thread is several pages.
>
> The story opens with Moo posting an impassioned plea for advice. Moo, married
> two years, "together" for twelve(*), is due to pop #1 in six weeks. Duh has
> "suddenly" decided that he wants out. Moo and Duh are scheduled for counseling.
>
> The other moos all start mooing about how awwwwful it is that her eeeevil
> babydaddy could dooooo something like that to her when she's preeeeeeegnunt.
> The MooChorus stays similar. (Actually, it's the same refrain in all the
> threads on the board. Pregmoos are always blameless because they're doing the
> Hardest Job In The World.)
>
At the possible cost of thundering denunciation from my fellow
CFers, I must say the man is a swine if he leaves her because
he got her preggers.
Birth control? He had nothing to do with it?
Please!
Make a baby, take the responsibility!
Toth's Scribe
> CFers, I must say the man is a swine if he leaves her because
> he got her preggers.
You won't be completely alone - I also think that "knock 'em up and
blow 'em off" is an appalling attitude for a guy to have, and should
be a castratable offense.
However... I did scan through the thread last night, I don't think he
did. Even her messages makes her sound like a screaming narcissist
who got pregnant just so she could get the attention "due" a mother.
(Her verbatim relation of her mother in law's comment "Now I
understand what my son has been saying about you" was particularly
telling.) There is not one word about what the child needs, and
everything the hubby says he needs is degraded, insulted, and held up
as the most unreasonable thing in the universe. While everything SHE
needs -- and she needs a great deal! - is natural, normal, and if you
don't give it to her right away with a smile on your face, you're evil
and must die.
Witness her assumption that her husband was having sex with his female
co-worker. When said co-worker was perfectly polite to her when they
met, the woman considered it proof of infidelity and dissed her to her
face. Then when the hubby called her on it, she "taught him a lesson"
by leaving even nastier messages on the co-worker's answering
machine... several times!
And yet this marvel of anger management and maturity sees nothing
wrong with her attitude, takes no responsibility for anything that has
happened, and considers herself a fit mother.
And honestly, the way she keeps referring to her son as "precious"
reminds me of Gollum.
T's Scribe
Xintarr
wrote:
>> At the possible cost of thundering denunciation from my fellow
>> CFers, I must say the man is a swine if he leaves her because
>> he got her preggers.
>
>You won't be completely alone - I also think that "knock 'em up and
>blow 'em off" is an appalling attitude for a guy to have, and should
>be a castratable offense.
>
>However... I did scan through the thread last night, I don't think he
>did. Even her messages makes her sound like a screaming narcissist
>who got pregnant just so she could get the attention "due" a mother.
>(Her verbatim relation of her mother in law's comment "Now I
>understand what my son has been saying about you" was particularly
>telling.) There is not one word about what the child needs, and
>everything the hubby says he needs is degraded, insulted, and held up
>as the most unreasonable thing in the universe. While everything SHE
>needs -- and she needs a great deal! - is natural, normal, and if you
>don't give it to her right away with a smile on your face, you're evil
>and must die.
I noticed that myself, especially in the mother-in-law post you
referenced. Something about the MIL "selfishly" complaining that she
had yet to see the baybee (and this was, what, at least a couple of
weeks after Moo came home from the hospital?). Another bit that caught
my attention in the same post was her attitude that the calf comes
first and how she won't answer the phone or the door when she's
nurs!ng. Sheesh, does it take THAT much concentration that she can't
let the MIL in to see the baybee, even if it's latched on? That pretty
much sealed it for me that Moo is an immature, selfish whiner. Not
that her husband is a catch, either.
>
>Witness her assumption that her husband was having sex with his female
>co-worker. When said co-worker was perfectly polite to her when they
>met, the woman considered it proof of infidelity and dissed her to her
>face. Then when the hubby called her on it, she "taught him a lesson"
>by leaving even nastier messages on the co-worker's answering
>machine... several times!
I thought ther whole thing with the co-worker sounded a tiny bit
suspect, but only in the light that Duhd goes out every night into the
late hours. BUT, with that said, I don't think she has any evidence of
an affair with the co-worker or anyone else. What she did just
perpetuates the shrew-wife stereotype. Stories like hers serve to
remind me of what NOT to be like as a wife.
>And yet this marvel of anger management and maturity sees nothing
>wrong with her attitude, takes no responsibility for anything that has
>happened, and considers herself a fit mother.
Well, no, of course not. She's raising The Fyooture, you see, and that
gives her free pass to act in any manner she chooses as long as it's
all for The Sake of the Chiyuld.
>And honestly, the way she keeps referring to her son as "precious"
>reminds me of Gollum.
Hee hee! I didn't catch that when I read it and now you're forcing me
to go back and read those godawful posts again. "What has it got in
its diaperses, my preciousssss?" (Will withhold from making bad "One
Ring" jokes.)
Xintarr
"I even saved one son's umbilical cord when it fell off
and the little penis cap on my first born son from his
circumsision when it fell off to!! The bad part was when
the umbilical cord fell out of the baby book and the
doggie ran up and chomped it up!!!" ~ 'NetBreeder
Mary Ann
> in search of amusement. Then I shamelessly beelined for Trainwreck Central, the
> "Marriage & Relationship Issues" board.
>
I read the thread and what's interesting is how many red flags this
woman ignored in order to be moo. I'm starting to call these
"Hey! I know!" stories. This one goes:
My husband's a recovering alcoholic whom I enabled for many years.
My husband's father left when he was a baby.
We're in horrible debt, with all the stress that implies.
Hey! I know! Let's have a baby!
There seems to be a huge group of women (and men) who seem to not have
grasped the concept that there are circumstances in which it
would be wrong to have a baby (like living on a damaged
planet with 6.5 billion people maybe?), and that no matter
what problems you have in your life, a baby will make them
a WHOLE LOT worse. It's not like no one tells them this. Anyone
see last Friday's Dr. Phil? He was extremely upfront about it.
Maybe it should be called "baybeedeafness" instead of "baybeerabies"
because once it hits they can't hear anything that doesn't
enable their One Goal.
Mary Ann
Mary Ann