fast food hellsprog rant

1 view
Skip to first unread message

gale

unread,
Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
to
zipped in for a quick lunch at chick-fil-a, i always hit the place at
10:30am when they start serving lunch because breeders never get up and
out that early for lunch. i had almost made it through my lunch
hellsprog free when......a hellsprog comes out from the kitchen area
crying and whining about some injury. no blood or first aid kits
involved and no injuries that i could see. well, at this employee family
friendly chic-fil-a evidently the employees or the manager's wives or
whatever can bring their kids along. i have noticed these brats going in
and out of the kitchen area before. the best i could tell the injury
must have been caused when some employee stepped on the kid or
something sending her into some crying whine jag. the grandly pregnant
mommee had to comfort the child as did another massively pregnant
employee or relative (who also came from the kitchen area) and then the
employee that stepped on the kid had to come out and make nice to her
and then some other employees had to come out and gush all over the kid.
they made a really big show for all to see and hear- yes of course they
put on this show in the middle of the place. now i just have to ask why
the hell the kid was back in the kitchen getting in everyone's way
cavorting amongst the hot grease cookers? isn't having hellsprog back
there against some sort of health or safety code?

gale


Rich Grise

unread,
Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
to
gale wrote:
...

> and out of the kitchen area before. the best i could tell the injury
> must have been caused when some employee stepped on the kid or
> something ...

Well, there goes another keyboard!

Rich

Bill Bradley

unread,
Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
to
In article <379F600B...@worldnet.att.net>,

gale <ga...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> zipped in for a quick lunch at chick-fil-a, i always hit the place at
>10:30am when they start serving lunch because breeders never get up and
>out that early for lunch. i had almost made it through my lunch
>hellsprog free when......a hellsprog comes out from the kitchen area
>crying and whining about some injury. no blood or first aid kits
>involved and no injuries that i could see. well, at this employee family
>friendly chic-fil-a evidently the employees or the manager's wives or
>whatever can bring their kids along.

Just a a general note: Chick-fil-A is owned by fundie-crispies
(that's why they're ALL closed on sundays), so tales of
"family friendly" working conditions aren't really surprising.
I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's
owners having supported Operation Rescue. Ditto "Interstate Batteries"

Just a word to the wise...
Bill

Marisa Wood

unread,
Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
to
On 28 Jul 1999, Bill Bradley wrote:

[icky story of hellsprog-friendly fast food place snipped--like the
breeders of the hellsprog should've been ;} ]

> I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's
> owners having supported Operation Rescue. Ditto "Interstate Batteries"

I've boycotted Domino's Pizza for years, for that very reason. Tom
Monaghan, the CEO of the company, gives/has given $$$ to OR.

Marisa Wood =^o_o^=
ish...@blarg.net ^
"I like playing with my mice before I eat them."


AJ

unread,
Jul 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/29/99
to
Bill, is there a website where one can go to find a list of companies
that support Operation Rescue? I'd love to join in on a boycott of
them!

AJ

On 28 Jul 1999 23:56:21 GMT, sen...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Bill Bradley)
wrote:

>In article <379F600B...@worldnet.att.net>,
>gale <ga...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> zipped in for a quick lunch at chick-fil-a, i always hit the place at
>>10:30am when they start serving lunch because breeders never get up and
>>out that early for lunch. i had almost made it through my lunch
>>hellsprog free when......a hellsprog comes out from the kitchen area
>>crying and whining about some injury. no blood or first aid kits
>>involved and no injuries that i could see. well, at this employee family
>>friendly chic-fil-a evidently the employees or the manager's wives or
>>whatever can bring their kids along.
>
> Just a a general note: Chick-fil-A is owned by fundie-crispies
>(that's why they're ALL closed on sundays), so tales of
>"family friendly" working conditions aren't really surprising.

> I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's
>owners having supported Operation Rescue. Ditto "Interstate Batteries"
>

Bill Bradley

unread,
Jul 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/29/99
to
In article <379fab0...@news.col.ameritech.net>,

AJ <ajsi...@bitemehard.ameritech.net> wrote:
>Bill, is there a website where one can go to find a list of companies
>that support Operation Rescue? I'd love to join in on a boycott of
>them!
>
>AJ

I found out from Business Week a few years ago when they
did a profile on "Christian Business(wo)men" including the owners of
Chick-fil-A, Interstate Battery and Sam Walton (dating the article since
he was still living and in the business) amongst others.

Bill

dph...@my-deja.com

unread,
Jul 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/29/99
to
In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.99072...@animal.blarg.net>,

Marisa Wood <ish...@animal.blarg.net> wrote:
> On 28 Jul 1999, Bill Bradley wrote:
>
> [icky story of hellsprog-friendly fast food place snipped--like the
> breeders of the hellsprog should've been ;} ]
>
> > I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's
> > owners having supported Operation Rescue. Ditto "Interstate
Batteries"
>
> I've boycotted Domino's Pizza for years, for that very reason. Tom
> Monaghan, the CEO of the company, gives/has given $$$ to OR.
>
> Marisa Wood =^o_o^=

I don't think Monaghan owns Domino's anymore. I used to boycott
them too -- now I just don't eat there because there are better
choices.

Does anyone know of a good source for lists of companies and
the causes they support ? I'm always happy to 'vote' with
my $$$.

--
--dph.

(preferred email: dhayes AT iname DOT com)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

gale

unread,
Jul 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/29/99
to
 

Lara W. wrote:
Aw hell, them too??? I had to give up Wendy's for the same reason! CRAP!

LW
 

  No kidding, i really like those chick-fil-a sandwiches but i just can't take another
employee family friendly floor show. that coupled with the owner giving money to
operation rescue means i will definitely boycott now. and by the way just what is it
that the operation rescue people hope to rescue? i suppose they are rescuing their
own children from having a normal childhood spent doing fun child things. instead their
kids get to got to anti abortion protest rally's and hear about fun topics like dead fetuses,
how to make a incendiary device to blow up an abortion clinic, how to ambush and shoot
an abortion dr and so on.

gale

Jim

unread,
Jul 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/29/99
to

Bill Bradley wrote:

> Just a a general note: Chick-fil-A is owned by fundie-crispies
> (that's why they're ALL closed on sundays), so tales of
> "family friendly" working conditions aren't really surprising.

> I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's
> owners having supported Operation Rescue. Ditto "Interstate Batteries"
>

> Just a word to the wise...
> Bill

Thanks, Bill. Those two are going onto the list, along with Squall*Mart
and Dominos.

Jim


**********************************
http://www.cybercomm.net/~flamingo
ICQ: 14601016
Radio Free Manahawkin
http://www.imagineradio.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=flamingo3823

MountainPony Lightning

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
> Chick-fil-A is owned by fundie-crispies
> I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's
> owners having supported Operation R*scue Just a word to the wise...
> Bill

That's so very sad. Thiers are about the only chicken nuggets I like, but
the thought of my money going to opertion sickos makes me lose my appetite.
No more Wendy's and no more Fil~A.

Lightning

Noelle Gresham

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
Bill Bradley wrote in message <7no5b5$s...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>...

> Just a a general note: Chick-fil-A is owned by fundie-crispies


Fundie-crispies? Hee hee hee....

Then again, in our household, "fundies" has more than one meaning.
Typically, it's slang for underwear more often than short for "fundamental
Christians". (overshare)

Even before I was vegetarian, I never ate at Chick-fil-A (except for the
excellent waffle fries) because I knew someone who got food poisoning at a
CFA, was dumb enough to go back, and got it again!

> I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's

>owners having supported Operation Rescue. Ditto "Interstate Batteries"


Howzabout Domino's Pizza? Don't they fund right-to-life organizations? I
brought that up recently when some people at work wanted to order from
there. That was my secondary reason. My primary reason was that their pizza
sucks rocks out of the ground. A coworker was amused at the idea of
politically correct food decisions.

Gutterboy

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
Wrote Noelle:

>Howzabout Domino's Pizza? Don't they fund right-to-life organizations? I
>brought that up recently when some people at work wanted to order from
>there. That was my secondary reason. My primary reason was that their pizza
>sucks rocks out of the ground. A coworker was amused at the idea of
>politically correct food decisions.
>

Like all boycotts, it's much easier if you didn't like the stuff in the first
place. Not eating Domino's is no hardship, given that their pizza sauce is 5
parts salt to 1 part Tomato-Like-Flavored Additive.

Gutterboy
_____
"What's your point?"
"It's of no return--and you've reached it!"
-- "Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!"

NoCats

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
MountainPony Lightning wrote:
>
> > Chick-fil-A is owned by fundie-crispies
> > I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's
> > owners having supported Operation R*scue Just a word to the wise...
> > Bill
>
> That's so very sad. Thiers are about the only chicken nuggets I like, but
> the thought of my money going to opertion sickos makes me lose my appetite.
> No more Wendy's and no more Fil~A.
>
> Lightning

Well, I hope Der Weinerschnitzel and In-n-Out Burger don't contribute
to any religious fanatics. These are my basic staples. And Shakey's,
although I found out that at the grocery store, I can get two 15"
pizzas, extra cheese, anchovies, mushrooms, and green olives for
about three bucks more than ONE delivered Shakey's.

Rich

Rich Grise

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
Brain fart.

AlphaFemale

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:52:54 GMT MountainPony Lightning
<pa...@flash.net> wrote:

>
> That's so very sad. Thiers are about the only chicken nuggets I like, but
> the thought of my money going to opertion sickos makes me lose my appetite.
> No more Wendy's and no more Fil~A.
>
> Lightning>>>

Wendy's supports Operation Wackjob?!?! Oh, man, that SUCKS!! I *love*
Wendy's food.

Ah well, I should cut down on all that cholesterol, anyway. So what
other fast food places are to be avoided as well? There's Domino's,
Wendy's and Chick-Fil-A that I know of now. I *refuse* to put money in
the pockets of fundie terrorists by way of the corporations that
support them.

Grrr!

Peace,
Cassie

"Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes."


>
>
>
>
--
Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com
Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).


Lynn Tucker

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
<grin> That wouldn't be "Fundies, the underwear built for two" would it? (We
used to sell those in the gag gift aisle where I worked a few years ago.)

--
Lynn
*****
Please Excuse Our Dust
This sig is still under construction...
brilliant quote to be announced

Noelle Gresham wrote in message ...


>Bill Bradley wrote in message <7no5b5$s...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>...
>
>> Just a a general note: Chick-fil-A is owned by fundie-crispies
>
>
>Fundie-crispies? Hee hee hee....
>
>Then again, in our household, "fundies" has more than one meaning.
>Typically, it's slang for underwear more often than short for "fundamental
>Christians". (overshare)
>
>Even before I was vegetarian, I never ate at Chick-fil-A (except for the
>excellent waffle fries) because I knew someone who got food poisoning at a
>CFA, was dumb enough to go back, and got it again!
>

>> I have them on my personal "boycott" list due to the company's

>>owners having supported Operation Rescue. Ditto "Interstate Batteries"

Rat & Swan

unread,
Jul 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/30/99
to
AlphaFemale wrote:
> Ah well, I should cut down on all that cholesterol, anyway. So what
> other fast food places are to be avoided as well? There's Domino's,
> Wendy's and Chick-Fil-A that I know of now. I *refuse* to put money in
> the pockets of fundie terrorists by way of the corporations that
> support them.


Carl's JR.... Carl Karcher (I think the name is) is a whacko. He's also
homophobic.


Speaking of homophobic businesses... there's
the Crackerbarrel restaurant and Adolph Coors Brewing co. to be
boycotted. Others as well, but those are off the top of my head just
now.


Swan


Psi Corps

Aynthem

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to

Erina wrote in message <7ntjep$c3h$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>:

>>
>> >Howzabout Domino's Pizza? Don't they fund right-to-life
>organizations? I
>> >brought that up recently when some people at work wanted to
order
>from
>> >there. That was my secondary reason. My primary reason was
that their
>pizza
>> >sucks rocks out of the ground. A coworker was amused at the
idea of
>> >politically correct food decisions.
>> >
>He doesn't own it, I swear.

>Erina


I still think they should be boycotted for daring to label the
doughish red flavored frisbee they sell pizza.

Melody, who won't even eat *free* Domino's (and I refuse to call
it pizza)

Kent

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to
Erina <eri...@my-deja.com> wrote:
:> place. Not eating Domino's is no hardship, given that their pizza

: sauce is 5
:> parts salt to 1 part Tomato-Like-Flavored Additive.
:>
:> Gutterboy

: He doesn't own it, I swear.

WHO doesn't own WHAT??

Kent

Kent

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to
Frenchy <fre...@nospam.com> wrote:
: X-No-Archive:yes

: Dave Thomas is a fundy?


Something toward that end of the spectrum, anyway. I used to love me some
Wendy's burgers, but have tried to find other ways to consume fat and
grease.

Kent

Kent

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to
Rat & Swan <lab...@pacbell.net> wrote:

: Speaking of homophobic businesses... there's


: the Crackerbarrel restaurant and Adolph Coors Brewing co. to be
: boycotted. Others as well, but those are off the top of my head just
: now.

Actually, although the Coors boycott was Legendary throughout most of the
'80s, they have changed their tune and now one is even ENCOURAGED by some
gay magazines to buy Coors, as apparently they really have cleaned up
their act in that regard. Of course Bud Light is still the only beer to
actually have GAY ADS, so they get my $.

Cracker Barrel, as you say, is Homophobia, Inc. Please avoid them, anyone,
at ALL costs.

Kent


molly

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to
Kent (kmp...@nina.pagesz.net) wrote:
:
: Cracker Barrel, as you say, is Homophobia, Inc. Please avoid them, anyone,
: at ALL costs.

<sigh> Can we please start a thread about places we CAN eat?

However, this discussion is pretty good for my wallet ...

Molly


John & Mari Morgan

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to

Last time I checked, Thomas personally created and supports a charity
that encourages adoption, especially of "harder-to-place" children,
because he himself is adopted. Information on the charity is available
at http://www.wendys.com/community/adoption/adoption_frame.html . The
funding section of the Adoption Foundation's webpage says that while
the Wendy's corporation (which also owns Tim Horton's) lends its name
to some of the events to raise money for the organization, there isn't
any indication in the 1998 financial statement to stockholders
(http://www.investquest.com/InvestQuest/w/wen/fin/annual/98/98finstmts.htm)
that any money goes directly from the corporate coffers to the
organization. Dave Thomas does turn over the profits from his books,
"Dave's Way" and "Well Done!", to the Foundation, so if you don't
approve of the Foundation don't buy his books, but I think your
Wendy's meals are reasonably safe. (I don't think we have any call on
what someone does with their personal fortunes, I think that's a
completely personal decision and honestly none of our damn business.)

I'm not necessarily sure that qualifies as fundyistic corporate
activities in my book, and I _CERTAINLY_ do not put it on par with
funding an organization that advocates premeditated murder of adults
and destruction of facilities that provide many crucial services to
women other than abortions (by which I mean Operation Rescue, of
course). You all, of course, can make up your own minds, but I'll
continue going there for my annual treat of chili-topped French fries
and sending my husband there on school nights.

Mari

-
"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards,
for they are subtle and quick to anger." --J.R.R. Tolkien

"No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the
shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style." --Steven Brust

Lee Ann

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to
On 31 Jul 1999 06:24:45 GMT, Kent <kmp...@nina.pagesz.net> wrote:

>Frenchy <fre...@nospam.com> wrote:
>: X-No-Archive:yes
>
>: Dave Thomas is a fundy?
>
>
>Something toward that end of the spectrum, anyway. I used to love me some
>Wendy's burgers, but have tried to find other ways to consume fat and
>grease.
>

>Kent

Where did you find this out? I know that Dave T. is a big supporter of
adoption and children's education, but I never heard that he supported
the "pro-life" (as long as it's fetal...) movement.

Lee Ann


Larisa Migachyov

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to
sprod.com>:
Distribution:

molly wrote:
> Kent (kmp...@nina.pagesz.net) wrote:
> :
> : Cracker Barrel, as you say, is Homophobia, Inc. Please avoid them, anyone,
> : at ALL costs.
>
> <sigh> Can we please start a thread about places we CAN eat?

Chinese restaurants of any kind. If there are sprogs in them, they're
always quite well-behaved. At least that's my experience.

--
Larisa Migachyov http://www.stanford.edu/~lvm

Rich Grise

unread,
Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
to
Noelle Gresham wrote:

> Another oddity--I was amused to learn that in California Subways you can pay
> 50 cents and have avocado added to any sub, just as you can have bacon added
> to any sub in Texas.

Oh, yes, California - land of the avocado. I've never eaten one,
or even guacamole.


<possible squick>


pss


pss


I just can't see putting something in my mouth that is the
same color as something that normally comes out of my nose.
</poss.sq.>

> I've been reading up on different things about Wisconsin, and it seems that
> German food and seafood is as common up there as Tex-Mex and BBQ is in
> Texas. I wonder if we'll miss Tex-Mex when we move.

Well, in Wisconsin, Cheese is Cheese! I got a kick out of some
commercial recently, where they proclaimed "Real California Cheese!"

Yah, right.

If you're used to Tex-Mex, and BBQ, you'll probably be really
disappointed by what they call (at least in Minn. - Wisc. is
probably pretty similar) barbecues.

I never had the balls to offer a Green Bay Packer a piece of
fudge - "Fudge, Packer?"

hah, hah.

:)
Rich

IleneB

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to

Agreed. I don't think he's a person to *boycott*. I do remember having
some emotional trouble taking care of a guy when I worked in AIDS
hospice who belonged to Operation Rescue (this, a few blocks away from
the Preterm/Planned Parenthood shootings by our own John Salvi).

His saving grace was listening to *lots* of Texas guitar slingers. Of
course, once he was really down and dying (and took several weeks) some
namby New Ager put on "peaceful tapes" with all that wailing electronic
drone wallpaper crap that's supposed to be soothing. I thought, if he
didn't listen to it in life, why would he want to listen to it while
he's dying and can't get up and change the tape?

I changed the tape.

Ilene B


In article <37a32491...@news.newsguy.com>, John & Mari Morgan

Kent

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to
Jeri Jo Thomas <kata...@earthlink.net> wrote:

: -> Cracker Barrel, as you say, is Homophobia, Inc. Please avoid them, anyone,
: -> at ALL costs.
: ->
: I should eschew Cracker Barrel's good breakfasts to eat at, oh,
: =Denny's= maybe?

:)...Well, I do admit, I LOVED Cracker Barrel's food before I learned what
kind of a company they were. Unlike other boycotts, where it's usually
just choosing Brand A over Brand B, in this case I really did miss what I
was giving up. But, since they are quite open about their policy to fire
any employee they even SUSPECT of being gay (bad for the "FAMILEEEEE
Image", ya know), I've visited my last one.

Kent

Kent

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to
Lee Ann <g...@infinet.com> wrote:

:>: Dave Thomas is a fundy?


:>
:>Something toward that end of the spectrum, anyway. I used to love me some
:>Wendy's burgers, but have tried to find other ways to consume fat and
:>grease.

: Where did you find this out? I know that Dave T. is a big supporter of


: adoption and children's education, but I never heard that he supported
: the "pro-life" (as long as it's fetal...) movement.

What I'm thinking of were some anti-gay references to him; can't remember
exactly what, but it was severe enough (and I DO weigh the source and the
severity before deciding to boycott somewhere) to make me give up my
double stacks. ("Fundy" can mean other things than just pro-'life', BTW)

Kent

Noelle Gresham

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to

NoCats wrote in message <37A19B...@no.net>...

>Well, I hope Der Weinerschnitzel and In-n-Out Burger don't contribute


Just an odd regional food note. One of my best friends lives in San Diego,
although she moved to Texas for a while with her husband (he went to school
with DH and I and his family is from Texas). When she lived here, she said
that every time she saw a "Whataburger" sign she thought of
"Weinerschnitzel" because they do look similar--big orange "W" and all. So,
naturally, when I visited her in SD I thought of Whataburger when I saw the
Weinerschnitzel signs. But Weinerschnitzel has invaded Texas too...they just
put one in Denton.

Another oddity--I was amused to learn that in California Subways you can pay
50 cents and have avocado added to any sub, just as you can have bacon added
to any sub in Texas.

I've been reading up on different things about Wisconsin, and it seems that

Noelle Gresham

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to

Erina wrote in message <7nsbn1$f8t$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>The Domino's Pizza Boycott is OVER.
>
>Tom Monaghan sold the company last year.


Thanks for the info, but I still don't like their pizza. :)

Noelle Gresham

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to

Lynn Tucker wrote in message <7nsl02$okq$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...

><grin> That wouldn't be "Fundies, the underwear built for two" would it?
(We
>used to sell those in the gag gift aisle where I worked a few years ago.)


No...I can't remember how that particular sobriquet got attached to the
underthings in our household. :) I've seen what you're talking about in
various novelty catalogs.

MountainPony Lightning

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to

> :)...Well, I do admit, I LOVED Cracker Barrel's food before I learned what
> kind of a company they were. Unlike other boycotts, where it's usually
> just choosing Brand A over Brand B, in this case I really did miss what I
> was giving up. But, since they are quite open about their policy to fire
> any employee they even SUSPECT of being gay (bad for the "FAMILEEEEE
> Image", ya know), I've visited my last one.
>
> Kent

This is not illegal? *Pukes at Famlee image*

Lightning

Jim

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to

In some states it's perfectly legal. In others, such as mine, it's not.
But we also have and employment at will clause in our labor laws, so
it's up to the employee to prove discrimination. In states without
protection, they can be, and have been blatent about it.

Jim

Kent

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to
MountainPony Lightning <pa...@flash.net> wrote:

:> :)...Well, I do admit, I LOVED Cracker Barrel's food before I learned what
:> kind of a company they were. Unlike other boycotts, where it's usually
:> just choosing Brand A over Brand B, in this case I really did miss what I
:> was giving up. But, since they are quite open about their policy to fire
:> any employee they even SUSPECT of being gay (bad for the "FAMILEEEEE
:> Image", ya know), I've visited my last one.
:>
:> Kent

: This is not illegal? *Pukes at Famlee image*

'Fraid not..."those perverted queers" are NOT protected by the
non-discrimination laws that virtually any other demographic gets (except
in local situations, usually city/county govt, and a FEW corporations). An
employer can pink-slip somebody over their sexual orientation quite
legally in most businesses, most states.

But, of course, try to correct this, and you're asking for "Speshull
Rights"!

Kent

Rat & Swan

unread,
Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
to
Kent wrote:


> :)...Well, I do admit, I LOVED Cracker Barrel's food before I learned what
> kind of a company they were. Unlike other boycotts, where it's usually
> just choosing Brand A over Brand B, in this case I really did miss what I
> was giving up. But, since they are quite open about their policy to fire
> any employee they even SUSPECT of being gay (bad for the "FAMILEEEEE
> Image", ya know), I've visited my last one.


Plus, I believe, there was/is a case against them because they threw out
gay customers! The gay men were nt causing *any* disturbance, but the
restaurant staff asked them to leave.


this company is *very* homophobic. They are absolutelyu notorious and
very upfront about it.


Swan


Who hates boycotts, but hates dealing with bigots even more.

Larisa Migachyov

unread,
Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
to
2598...@news.earthlink.net> <7o0bq7$9kt$4...@netra-news.ntrnet.net>
<37A4DF...@pacbell.net>:
Distribution:

Another place I won't be patronizing. There's plenty of them in TX; and
if I have some spare time, I might even write to the Person in Charge
exactly *why* I will not be going to their places anymore.

> Who hates boycotts, but hates dealing with bigots even more.

Sometimes, voting with your wallet is the only effective way to deal with
the bigots.

Chris Petit

unread,
Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
to
Kent wrote:
>
> 'Fraid not..."those perverted queers" are NOT protected by the
> non-discrimination laws that virtually any other demographic gets (except
> in local situations, usually city/county govt, and a FEW corporations). An
> employer can pink-slip somebody over their sexual orientation quite
> legally in most businesses, most states.
>
> But, of course, try to correct this, and you're asking for "Speshull
> Rights"!

The REAL problem is the hatred and mistrust, but, sadly, we can't
legislate those away. People seem to have an innate desire to hate that
which they don't understand. And, without mutual trust, civilization
will cease to exist. Therefore, watch for the soon coming collapse of
civilization.

I think NEGATIVE discrimination should be banned in all its forms, but
I do NOT like the idea of "let's give group X an advantage because they
have had disadvantages in the past." The former helps stomp out at
least SOME of the symptoms of the prejudice, while the latter
exacerbates it.

Kent

unread,
Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
to
Kristy Bronner <kristen...@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
:>
:> Cracker Barrel, as you say, is Homophobia, Inc. Please avoid them, anyone,
:> at ALL costs.

: Just the restaurant, or the cheese too? (Please don't say the cheese...)

Not the cheese (thank goodness!)

Kent

Rich Grise

unread,
Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
to
Kristy Bronner wrote:
...
> I'm not sure if you're arguing for or against "special rights," Chris.
>
> I had this debate with my mom a couple of years ago. She thinks
> gay marriage, for example, would be a special right, because no
> one is allowed to marry someone of the same sex, so allowing that
> would be an exception for gay people. ? So I logically said, "well,
> then give everyone the right to marry someone of the same sex."
> But still, since "only gay people would take advantage of it," it
> counted as a special right. (I know, I didn't get it either.) Same
> with discrimination in housing and employment. Basically she
> figured that if you can't turn someone away/fire them for being
> gay, but you can for any other reason, then that's a special right.
>
> That conversation still puzzles me, and it was years ago.
>
> --
> Kristy Bronner

According to a passage in "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World,"
discrimination doesn't make economic sense for any business. Say
you sell shirts. Someone comes in and wants to buy a shirt, but
you refuse to sell them one, because they're black, or latino,
or gay, (which, how is anybody supposed to know? They all mince?
Lesbians all have short hair?) or whatever. - You've just deprived
yourself of a sale. The same logic applies with employers. By
discriminating, you're depriving yourself of a not insignificant
fraction of qualified workers.

But I guess the bigot mentality LIKES to cut off their nose to
spite their face.

Most people would rather be right than happy.

Me, I'll take happy, thank you very much. %-}
Rich

<joke>
I've figured out how to determine if a woman is lesbian: if she
doesn't want to have sex with me, she's obviously lesbian.
</joke>

Noelle Gresham

unread,
Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
to

Kristy Bronner wrote in message ...

>I had this debate with my mom a couple of years ago. She thinks
>gay marriage, for example, would be a special right, because no

>snip<


>That conversation still puzzles me, and it was years ago.


A couple of years ago, I was privileged to hold the commitment ceremony of
two male friends in my backyard. (Sadly, they've since "divorced" but are
still living together). I borrowed my mother's punchbowl for the event, and
this spawned a discussion with my mother on the oddity (in her mind) of two
men marrying. It didn't help matters that one of them, Dan, was someone she
had known even longer than I had, since she was the school counselor when he
was in junior high. (She's always asking me if I ever hope that he'll "grow
out of this".) She was saying, "I just don't understand it." I said, "What's
to understand? They can't have a legal wedding, and they don't want a church
ceremony, so they're just getting together in front of a bunch of friends
and saying that they love each other and want to stay together. What's the
difference between that and my wedding?"

It was a really cool ceremony, too. I wish mine had been more like this.
They set up an "aisle" of Tiki torches that led to the huge elm tree in our
backyard, where they lit a Unity candle. They wore matching tuxes with
purple vests and bow ties (their mutual favorite color), made up their own
vows, and exchanged rings. This was during the time that the Hale-Bopp comet
was visible, and it could be seen that night through the branches of the
tree.

I wanted to choke them both when they broke up. How could they do this to
me?!?! :)

E*Borg

unread,
Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
to
In article <7o0bq7$9kt$4...@netra-news.ntrnet.net>,
Kent <kmp...@nina.pagesz.net> wrote:

> :)...Well, I do admit, I LOVED Cracker Barrel's food before I learned
> what kind of a company they were. Unlike other boycotts, where it's
> usually just choosing Brand A over Brand B, in this case I really did
> miss what I was giving up. But, since they are quite open about their
> policy to fire any employee they even SUSPECT of being gay (bad for
> the "FAMILEEEEE Image", ya know), I've visited my last one.

I'd never taken part in a boycott until I heard about the policy of
Darden Restaurants (which owns Red Lobster, the Olive Garden, and
Bahama Breeze.) Not only do they have a "fire on suspicion" policy
towards homosexuals, when they were brought into court on the matter,
rather than denying that they had the policy, their defense strategy
was to try to get the law prohibiting discriminating against
homosexuals overturned.

--E*Borg


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Gutterboy

unread,
Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
to
Wrote E*Borg:

<<I'd never taken part in a boycott until I heard about the policy of
Darden Restaurants (which owns Red Lobster, the Olive Garden, and
Bahama Breeze.) Not only do they have a "fire on suspicion" policy
towards homosexuals, when they were brought into court on the matter,
rather than denying that they had the policy, their defense strategy
was to try to get the law prohibiting discriminating against
homosexuals overturned.
>>

Does anyone have a link about this handy? I've never heard of it. Good Lord.

Of course, boycotting Olive Garden would be as much a favor to your stomach as
it would to the gay community.

Gutterboy


_____
"My goodness I go bad at the drop of a heart;
My goodness always stops when my troubles start." -- Exene Cervenkova

Kent

unread,
Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
to
E*Borg <FiveO...@hotmail.com> wrote:

: I'd never taken part in a boycott until I heard about the policy of


: Darden Restaurants (which owns Red Lobster, the Olive Garden, and
: Bahama Breeze.) Not only do they have a "fire on suspicion" policy
: towards homosexuals, when they were brought into court on the matter,
: rather than denying that they had the policy, their defense strategy
: was to try to get the law prohibiting discriminating against
: homosexuals overturned.

Yup, that's basically what the Crapper Barrel folks said. Thanks for the
heads-up on these other places, though!

Kent

gale

unread,
Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
to

Noelle Gresham wrote:

 

I've been reading up on different things about Wisconsin, and it seems that
German food and seafood is as common up there as Tex-Mex and BBQ is in
Texas. I wonder if we'll miss Tex-Mex when we move.

 Yes, you will miss tex-mex. we moved from austin to north carolina about 8 years ago
and couldn't find a good tex-mex restaurant for years. finally some texas based chains
moved into the area. the chains aren't as good as some of the individually owned tex-mex
restaurants  in austin but they are alot better than what passed for tex-mex food when
we first moved to nc.

gale

gale

unread,
Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
to
 

Ginny wrote:

That was the time the boisterous family behind us kept egging their
kids on to misbehave because they thought it was funny... at 10
o'clock at night.

--
Ginny...no kidding!
 

  I have noticed that if the hellsprog are quiet and behaving themselves the
parents do everything they can to rile the kids into misbehaving. this seems to be
especially true if an infant is involved. i have watched in horror as mommiee does everything
she can to make the quiet infant start wailing. my theory on it is that mommiee wants to
be noticed and what better way to get people to look at you than to get the hellsprog into
a screaming frenzy. i bet they don't rile the kids up at home; nope they save the floor show
for an audience.

gale

Lynn Tucker

unread,
Aug 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/3/99
to
I was noticing that the other day at...where was I...well, anyway, some
burger joint. There were a ton of kids there, miraculously well behaved (I
didn't even know one child was there until he walked past me on the way
out)...and then this breederfamblee starts egging their baby into these
hysterical sounding giggles. I could have slapped them.

--
Lynn
*****
Please Excuse Our Dust
This sig is still under construction...
brilliant quote to be announced

gale wrote in message <37A76D50...@tiredgirl.com>...

Timothy Hayes

unread,
Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
to

E*Borg wrote:

> I'd never taken part in a boycott until I heard about the policy of
> Darden Restaurants (which owns Red Lobster, the Olive Garden, and
> Bahama Breeze.) Not only do they have a "fire on suspicion" policy
> towards homosexuals, when they were brought into court on the matter,
> rather than denying that they had the policy, their defense strategy
> was to try to get the law prohibiting discriminating against
> homosexuals overturned.
>

> --E*Borg

Try again? If Red Lobster has such a policy, they sure don't enforce it in
Omaha, Nebraska. Two of the last three waiters I had were "suspicious".
So I doubt that it's a chain-wide sentiment. Don't get me wrong, I
couldn't care less what the waiter/waiteress is or isn't.


E*Borg

unread,
Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
to
In article <19990803151520...@ng-ch1.aol.com>,
gutte...@aol.comcfcfcf (Gutterboy) wrote:
> Wrote E*Borg:

>
> <<I'd never taken part in a boycott until I heard about the policy of
> Darden Restaurants (which owns Red Lobster, the Olive Garden, and
> Bahama Breeze.) Not only do they have a "fire on suspicion" policy
> towards homosexuals, when they were brought into court on the matter,
> rather than denying that they had the policy, their defense strategy
> was to try to get the law prohibiting discriminating against
> homosexuals overturned.
> >>
>
> Does anyone have a link about this handy? I've never heard of it.
> Good Lord.

From GLAADLines:
(http://www.glaad.org/glaad/glaad-lines/980713/03.html)

July 7, 1998--

ILLINOIS GROUP STEAMED OVER FISHY RED LOBSTER OPPOSITION TO EQUAL
RIGHTS: The Illinois Federation for Human Rights (IFHR) is mounting a
"public awareness and educational campaign" to counter an attempt by
Red Lobster's corporate parent to have Cook County's human rights law-
which includes protections based on sexual orientation- discarded as
unconstitutional. Darden Restaurants filed the request after the
county's Human Rights Commission ruled that Red Lobster had violated
the ordinance when it fired a gay man in 1993 because of his sexual
orientation. IFHR Director Rick Garcia said, "It is bad enough that Red
Lobster was found guilty of anti-gay discrimination but to try to
overturn the human rights ordinance is beneath contempt. That a
national restaurant chain would try to overturn civil rights
legislation is as unconscionable as it is disgusting." For more
information contact Rick Garcia (IFHR) at (773) 244-3371.

Reply all
Reply to author