http://suncanaa.com/in_memory_
A petition for a memorial
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Why are these children dying?
This page is in memory of children died of neglect or abuse while
under the care of the social service agencies! Many died suspiciously
or from neglect. Most of their lives and deaths went unnoticed. The
deaths of these children -- and what government agencies did or didn't
do to save their lives -- Even when they die, their stories are
rarely told.
They are the stories no one wants to hear -- children, abused and
neglected, some to the point of death.Many of them must leave their
families to go into shelters or foster care. Often these children
leave their homes with only a garbage bag to hold their clothes and
favorite toys, the most are routinely tossed from one temporary
placement to another, often ten or twenty times during their most
formative, vulnerable years.This is the continuing saga of crimes
against Foster children. Children are dying, inside and out...
State cannot say how many foster children die each year, even though a
state law that took effect in 2004 requires counties to release the
names, dates of birth, and dates of death for these children. The new
law is not being followed by all. There's no way to get more
information without going to the courts,it's extraordinarily difficult
for the public to learn who in the system is dying and why. There is
absolutely no reason why an advocacy group, a newspaper, an elected
official, or any other concerned member of the public should have to
go to court to find out what happened when a foster youth dies. The
Department of Social Services keeps all names confidential .Imagine --
our state's most vulnerable children, betrayed by a state system that
was supposed to protect them -- and we have no idea who they are.
These are the stories of some of those children. There is a story
behind each picture, real story about one short life....Please take a
couple of minutes to look around and see what are we talking about.
- May the spirits of those lost rest in peace and may we never
forget or ignore what happened to them.-
Summer Lytle Phelps
4-year-old
Jeremy Celentano
14-month-old
Michaela Watkins
10-years-old
Kelsey Smith-Briggs
2-year-old
Joshua Sharp
17-month-old
Sherry Charlie
19-month-old
Roman Alexander Quiroz
3-month-old
Quachaun Browne
4-year-old
James Earl Bradley Jr
3-year-old
Andrew Burd
4-year-old
Omega Leach
17-year-old
Camron P. Gardner
3-year-old
Daniel Jack Matthews
17-year-old
Alex Harris
12-year-old
Gareth Myatt
15-year-old
Gina Score
14-year-old
Logan E. Bratton
3-year-old
Candice Raynor
15-year-old
Dontel Jeffers
4-year-old
Cynteria Phillips
13-year-old
Chase Moody
17-year-old
Randy Steele
9-year-old
Kayla Allen
7-year-old
Emily Mays
16-month-old
Justin Buchanan
6-year-old
Gilbert Bonneau
8-year-old
Phoenix Sinclair
5-year-old
Dennis Craig Jurgens
3-year-old
Brian Edgar
9-year-old
Nathaniel Saunsoci-Mitchell
20-month-old
Annette Marie Hirsch
2-year-old
Kiana Rosado
3-year-old
Chelsey Acorn
14-year-old
Chandler Ashton Grafner
7-year- old
Cassandra Killpack
4-year-old
Shaniece Kerrigan-Kinahan
3-month-old
Angel Kerrigan-Kinahan
3-month-old
Krystal Tibbetts
3 years old
Terrell Peterson
6-year-old
Octavious Sims
1-year-old
Courtney Grimmer
3-month-old
Ryan Turner
4-year-old
Juli-Anna St. Peter
2-year-old
Tanner Dowler
2-month-old
Isaiah Oliva
14-month-old
Virgil Wagner
7-year-old
Jimmy Allan Wood
13-year-old
Gianni Barrera
4-year-old
Isaiah Simmons
17-year-old
Nathan Dominic Davis
3-year-old
KeyAndra Jackson
16-year-old
Jonathan Carey
13-year-old
Rebecca Jeanne Riley
4-year-old
Miguel Humberto Arias-Baca
2-year-old
Shelby Duis
2-year-old
Heather Michell Kish
15-year-old
Travis C Adams
2-year-old
Kayla Erlandson
2-year-old
Robley Carr Jr
15-year-old
Jason Tallman
12 years old
Pam Byron
15-year-old
Sariyah Garcia
18-month-old
Sebastian Lopez
4-month-old
Ariana Payne
4-year-old
Tyler Payne
5-year-old
Holly Grace Lockard
23-month-old
Daisy Marie Perales
5-year-old
Jerry Hulsey
10-year-old
Trayshaun Harris
6-year-old
Travante Greely
3-year-old
Joshua Harris
1-year-old
Darian Robinson
10-month-old
Skyla Brooks
18-month-old
LoReyna Barea
7-year-old
Sarah Lunde
13-year-old
Brianna Blackmond
23-month-old
Kyeimah Spann
6-year-old
Michael Renner-Lewis,III
15-year old
Kevin Colindres
18-year-old
Shelly Bash
8-year-old
Ian August
14-year-old
Kyla Aranae Edwards
2-year-old
Pheonix Cody Parrish
4-month-old
Michael Tinning
2-year-old
Dillon Ray Farrer
23-months-old
Damya Jefferson
2-year-old
Kendall Hunt
6-month-old
Shelby Duis
2-year-old
Sharllene Morillo
2-year-old
Jennifer Shafiq
4-year-old
Aaron Gilbert
13-month-old
Alexander Gallon
4-month-old
Chloe Thomas
14-weeks-old
Jasmine Galyer
3-year-old
Lauren Wright
6-year-old
Reena Virk
14-year-old
Katherine Frances
6-year-old
Porchia Bennett
3-year-old
Joshua Causey
4-year-old
Chassidy Whitford
2-year-old
Heaven Traverse
2-year-old
Jordan Heikamp
36-day-old
Aaren Marie Dunn
7-year-old
Elizabeth Steinberg
6-year-old
Laura Ashley Skinner
3-year-old
Ukleigha Batten-Froggatt
6-year-old
Deraye Lewis
3-year-old
Rikki Lee Neave
6-year-old
Toni-Ann Byfield
7-year-old
Shawn Smith
13-years-old
Alfredo Montez
2-year-old
Nicole Embum
4-month-old
Marissa Elan Karp
17-year-old
Billie-Jo Jenkins
13-year-old
Ciara Jobes
15-year-old
Sidney Mahkuk
11-years-old
Vatell Murray
15-year-old
Nicholas Goodrich
11-months-old
Maggie Schlosser
11-month-old
Felix Chen
6-year-old
Angelina Espalin
4-year-old
Christian Blewitt
3-year-old
Nadine Catherine Beaulieu
23-month-old
Stephen McKay
3-year-old
Richard (Ricky)L. Aragon
2-year-old
Trenton Jared Lewis
3-year-old
Donald Wayne Lechner
6-month-old
Roy Lechner Jr.
3-year-old
Breanna Marie Courtney Loveless
9-month-old
Evelyn Celeste Miller
5-year-old
Genny Rojas
3-year-old
Ricky Morales
11-year-old
Conrad Morales
13-year-old
Nateyonna Banks
2-year-old
Anishia Ilene Angelina Moy
13-month-old
Jaquez Mason
3-year-old
Raffy Gomez
2-year-old
Zachary Commissaris
20-month-old
Kerianne Bradley
16-month-old
Christian Ganis
1-year-old
MaKayla Ganis
2-year-old
Isaiah Ganis
3-year-old
William Barnard
3-year-old
Scotty Dwayne McCarter,Jr
12-year-old
Melanie Rae McCarter
6-year-old
Samuel Craig Vitela
5-month-old
Dominic Williams
16-year-old
Rodney McAllister
10-year-old
Jada Southall
2-year-old
Trustin Roberto Blue
3-year-old
Alexis Board
14-month-old
Mikinah Smith
1-year-old
Sarah Crider
14-year-old
Lydia Alday
2-year-old
Dylan Lockerbie
5-month-old
Chelsea Brown
2-year-old
Brian Wilson
4-year-old
Gregory Bryant-Bruce
10-year-old
Mark Adrian Norris
8-year-old
Anthony Bars
4-year-old
Latiana Hamilton
17-month-old
Christopher Henry Cryderman
4-month-old
Trevor Nolan
5-year-old
Isaac Lethbridge
2-year-old
Nina Hilt
2-year-old
Marcus Fiesel
3-year-old
Everlyse Cabrera
2-year-old
Ricky Holland
7-year-old
Martin Lee Anderson
14-year-old
Adacelli Snyder
2-year-old
Gregory Love
23-Month-Old
Jushai Spurgeon
14-month-old
Ciara Floyd
3-year-old
Kayla Lorrain Wood
16-year-old
Braxton Wooden
8-years-old
Shirley Arciszewski
12-year-old
Angellika Nicole Arndt
7 year-old
Jeffrey Baldwin
6-year-old
Keyana Bravo-Hamilton
2-year-old
Tyler DeLeon
7-year -old
Emerald Champagne-Loop
2-year-old
Rafael Gomez
2-year-old
Sirita Sotelo
5-year-old
Justice Robinson
16-months-old
Raiden Robinson
6-weeks-old
Sarah Angelina Chavez
2-year-old
Adrianna Maria Romero-Cram
4-year-old
Dahquay Gillians
16 months old
Kaden Schnitzler
2-year-old
Bethany Michelle Brannock
2-year-old
Allison Newman
2-year-old
Logan Marr
5-year-old
Ebony Smith
2-month-old
Candace Tiara Elmore
10-year-old
Dominic James Matz
19-month-old
Nathaniel Saunsoci-Mitchell
20-month-old
Viktor Sergeyevich Tulimov
6-year-old
Maria Bennett
2-year-old
Dmitry Sergeyevich Ishlankulov
3-year-old
Alex Geiko
6-year-old
Nicki Colma Spriggs
15-year-old
Marrieon Currie
11 weeks-old
Shawn Sumner
2-year-old
Sierra Roberts
7-year-old
Nixzmary Brown
7-year-old
Katelyn Frazier
3-year-old
Cameron Hamilton
2-years-old
Joey (Giovanni) Alteriz
16-years-old
Chris Campbell
13 years old
Elisa D. Santry
16-years-old
Jimmy Kanda
6-years-old
Darrell Busby
14-year-old
Dustin E.Phelps
14-years-old
Edith Campos
15-years-old
Miranda Davila
2-year-old
Sean Paddock
4-year-old
Amanda Gallegos
19-months-old
Courtney Crockett
3-year-old
Victoria Climbie
8-year-old
Chloe Fahey
5-year-old
Ashley Chadburn
2-year-old
Perrin Barlow
9-month-old
Kennedy McFarlane
3-year-old
Aaron O'Neil
3-month-old
Aliyah Ismail
13-year-old
John Smith
4-year-old
Carla-Nicole Bone
13-month-old
Ainlee Labonte
2-year-old
Caleb Ness
11-week-old
Raijon Daniels
8-year-old
Paul Choy
l5-year-old
Danieal Kelly
14 years old
Ahmad King
3-year-old
Aiyana Gauvin
4-year-old
Chazarus Hill Jr.
3-years-old
Stephanie Martinez
5-year-old
Faheem Williams
7-year-old
Jovonie Ochoa
4-years-old
Elisa Izquierdo
6-year-old
Zander Martino
2-year-old
Jessica Prewitt
4-year-old
Nick Wilson
15-year-old
David Lee Graves IV
5-month-old
Ericka Lopez
5-month-old
Jessica LaRock, Apalachin New York, seven years old, December 14 1989,
exposure
Halaina Lascelle, Texada Island British Columbia, three years old,
April 30 2001, slit throat
Robert Lavenhouse, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, fourteen years old,
August 31 1989, house fire
Shawn Lawrence né Andy Mohler, Shelton Washington, ten years old,
October 9 1999, drowned for insurance
Brittany Legler, Millcreek Pennsylvania, fifteen years old, May 9
2004, battered
Tameka Lehmann, Bladenboro North Carolina, eleven years old, June 15
1987, battered
Rochelle LeMajeur, Albuquerque New Mexico, three years old, June 24
2001, suffocation
Jeremy Leon, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, two years old, October 12
1988, house fire
Isaac Lethbridge, Detroit Michigan, two years old, August 16 2006,
battered
Ricky Letourneau, Durham Maine, four years old, January 6 1990,
battered
Tiffany Lewandowski, Waubay South Dakota, seven years old, January 15
2005, house fire
Travis Lewandowski, Waubay South Dakota, four years old, January 15
2005, house fire
Trenton Jared Lewis, Canyon County Idaho, three years old, July 8
2006, drowned in pool
Johnny Lim, Seattle Washington, fourteen years old, December 26 2005,
brain hemorrhage
Jacob Lindorff, Franklin Township New Jersey, five years old, December
14 2001, battered
Joshua Lindsey, Chester South Carolina, February 11 1990 - October
1992, battered
Chantel Lisby, Brooklyn New York, eleven months old, September 2000,
cocaine overdose
Jennifer Little, Utah, two years old, June 4 1977, brain hemorrhage
Christian Liz, New York City, three weeks old, November 29 2004,
suffocation
Roland Lamont Kirvin Lloyd, Akron Ohio, July 21 1993 - January 18
1994, pneumonia
Markia Lockman, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, two years old, April 13
2000, battered
James Lonnee, Guelph/Hamilton Ontario, sixteen years old, September 7
1996, beaten by cellmate
Gregory Love, Florida, twenty three months old, April 2005, head
injury
Charles Lucas, USA, sixteen years old, November 24 1980, boating/
drowning
Nikki Lutke, Cheyenne Wyoming, five years old, August 28 2003,
drowning
John "Jake" Lynch, DeKalb County Georgia, fourteen months old, January
1990, AIDS
Zachary James Lyons, Winston-Salem North Carolina, January 24 1992 -
October 8 1996, battered
Rocco Magliozzi, Gooding Idaho, twelve years old, July 28 2006, West
Nile virus
Shaquella Mance, Belton South Carolina, seven months old, March 27
2005, battered
Elizabeth Mann, Lake Butler Florida, fifteen years old, January 25
2006, traffic accident
Heaven Mann, Lake Butler Florida, three years old, January 25 2006,
traffic accident
Johnny Mann, Lake Butler Florida, thirteen years old, January 25 2006,
traffic accident
Thomas Mapes, Topeka Kansas, seventeen years old, July 8 1994,
restraint
Logan Marr, Chelsea Maine, October 14 1995 - January 31 2001,
asphyxiation
Fernando Ibarra Martinez, Bakersfield California, nine months old,
March 26 2006, battered
Stephanie Martinez, Pueblo Colorado, five years old, December 31 2001,
untreated burns
Tiffany Laverne Mason, Folsom California, June 11 1986 - August 9
2001, battered
Daniel "Danny" Matthews, Clearwater Florida, seventeen years old, May
31 2003, beaten by cellmate
Viktor Alexander Matthey né V Sergeyevich Tulimov, Hunterdon County
New Jersey, six years old, October 31 2000, hypothermia
Dominic Matz, Osawatomie Kansas, July 6 2002 - February 15 2004,
treatment withheld
Jamie Mayne, Atascadero California, March 24 1995 - February 10 2000,
battered
Kristal Mayon-Ceniceros, Chula Vista California, sixteen years old,
February 5 1999, restraint
Emily Ann Mays, Tucson Arizona, sixteen months old, August 24 2005,
battered
Brandon McBride, Chicago Illinois, ten years old, July 20 2000, house
fire
Timothy McBride, Chicago Illinois, eight years old, July 20 2000,
house fire
Andrew McClain, Bridgeport Connecticut, December 6 1986 - March 22
1998, restraint
Jessica Li McClure, Lakeville Minnesota, ten months old, August 17
1993, battered
Charles Thomas McEntire III, Richmond California, April 30 2003,
November 22 2004, stabbing
Shinaul McGraw, Lynnwood Washington, twelve years old, January 5 1994,
restraint
Lacresha McGuire, Preston County West Virginia, five years old,
November 24 1998, house fire
Edward McKenna, San Antonio Texas, seven years old, March 24 1991,
house fire
Deaira McKinzie, Saint Louis Missouri, eight weeks old, November 10
1991,
Deairis McKinzie, Saint Louis Missouri, eight weeks old, November 10
1991,
Cory Bradley McLaughlin, North Carolina, four years old, July 4 1997,
battered
Jerry McLaurin, Brownwood Texas, fourteen years old, November 2 1999,
restraint
Darrion McMichael, North Columbia South Carolina, seven months old,
November 22 1990, house fire
Shurlean McVea, Columbus Ohio, thirteen years old, December 5 1991,
rape/murder
Demitria Melvin, Brooklyn New York, three years old, June 12 1995,
battered
Maria De Jesus Mendoza, Katy Texas, fourteen years old, October 12
2002, restraint
Yonathan Mengesha, DeKalb County Georgia, fifteen months old, February
1 1995, brain injury
Chelsea Mensinger, Dupont Pennsylvania, eleven years old, September 22
2000, gunshot
Caleb Jerome Merchant, Edmonton Alberta, thirteen months old, November
26 2005, battered
Denis Merryman né Uritsky, Harford County Maryland, eight years old,
January 2005, starvation
Devin Miller, Spokane Washington, twenty months old, August 6 2006,
battered
Euryale Miller, Kansas City Missouri, one year old, April 1 2001,
battered
Jacob Miller, Georgia, twenty two months old, November 20 1997,
battered
Clayton Miracle, Georgia, three years old, August 11 1993, battered
Elza Marina Miranda, Colleton County South Carolina, nine years old,
July 17 1994, battered
Lamar Mitchell, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, two years old, July 12
1993, battered
Weyland Brown Mitchell, East Meadow New York, seven years old, May 20
1992, malnutrition
Nathan Moncrieff, Oakland California, fourteen months old, June 12
1986, battered
Hanna Denise Montessori, Santa Ana California, March 16 1988 - January
19 2004, homicide/head-injury
Alfredo Montez, Auburndale Florida, two years old, July 1 2002,
battered
Janeen Montoya, Denver Colorado, one month old, October 21 1995, car
crash
Charles W (Chase) Moody Jr, Mason County Texas, April 10 1985 -
October 14 2002, restraint
Michael Moon, Fall River Massachusetts, fourteen months old, September
14 1998, drowned in bathtub
Zachary Kay Moran, Charlotte North Carolina, fourteen months old,
August 8 2003, battered
John Moran, USA, seventeen years old, November 24 1980, boating/
drowning
Christina Morlan, Scott County Iowa, September 3 2003 - November 30
2003, unknown
Joshua Angel Morrow, Tampa Florida, four years old, December 28 2006,
hit by car
Vivien Morzuch, Kamloops British Columbia, fifteen years old, July 29
2000, runaway/homicide
Antonio Moseley, Chicago Heights Illinois, two months old, September 8
1998, battered
Keith Moye, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, seven years old, August 31
1989, house fire
Preston Moye, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, five years old, August 31
1989, house fire
Carlyle Mullins, Nashville Tennessee, five years old, May 27 2005,
battered
Gareth Myatt, Stoke-on-Trent England, fifteen years old, April 19
2004, restraint
Cedrick Napoleon, Killeen Texas, June 26 1987 - March 7 2002,
restraint
Jason Herb Nason né Jason Andrew Moore, Sisters Oregon, four years
old, November 24 1985, shigella
Jodi Kay Nason née Karina Alejandro Munoz, Sisters Oregon, two years
old, November 29 1985, shigella
Angel Negron, Lynn Massachusetts, two years old, August 23 1991, head
injuries
Candace Newmaker née C Tiara Elmore, Colorado, November 19 1989 -
April 19 2000, re-birth asphyxiation
Allison Newman, Canton Michigan, two years old, September 23 2006,
battered
Karlye Anne Newman, Thompson Falls Montana, sixteen years old, October
8 2004, suicide
Jonathan Nichol, Cook County Illinois, two years old, June 16 1995,
drowned in toilet
Christian Nieto, Corsicana Texas, sixteen months old, September 4
2006, battered
Trevor Nolan, Mono County California, five years old, April 12 1997,
treatment withheld
Oscar Ocasio, San Carlos Park Florida, two years old, March 7 1983,
battered
Brianna O'Conner, Aurora Colorado, one year old, January 1 1992,
drowned in hot tub
Sierra Odom, Arlington Texas, three years old, August 11 2005,
battered
Jamal Odum, Summerville South Carolina, nine years old, March 23 2003,
restraint
Sahara Jovan Onishea, Bossier City Louisiana, two years old, February
27 2000, battered
Lenny Ortega, Ingram Texas, twelve years old, May 30 2006, drowned in
creek
Louise Osborn, Bloomington Illinois, three years old, July 29 1993,
baked in cabinet
Tracia Owen, Winnipeg Manitoba, fourteen years old, August 25 2005,
suicide/hanging
Keron Owens, Walterboro South Carolina, three years old, January 19
1992, battered
Ted Daniel Owens, Nicholasville Kentucky, seventeen years old,
December 3 2001, alcohol poisoning
Sean Paddock né Ford, Johnston County North Carolina, four years old,
February 26 2006, battered
Omar Paisley, Miami Florida, seventeen years old, June 2003, untreated
appendicitis
Orlena Parker, Colorado Springs Colorado, fifteen years old, March 10
2003, restraint
Terrell Parker, Buffalo New York, two years old, 2003, battered
Travis Parker, Cleveland Georgia, thirteen years old, April 21 2005,
restraint
Melva Dee Parrott, Hersey Michigan, May 4 1998 - June 29 2000,
bronchitis
Alex Pavlis, né Geiko Schaumburg Illinois, six years old, December 19
2003, battered
Dillon Tyler Peak, Saint Petersburg Florida, fourteen years old, June
17 2006, undiagnosed illness
Ian E Peddicord, Weatherford Texas, eight years old, July 30 2001,
seizure
Raymond Pena, Englewood Colorado, four years old, April 16 1994, HIV/
spleen
Dawn Renay Perry, Manvel Texas, sixteen years old, April 10 1993,
restraint
Angellica Pesante, Seneca County New York, four years old, April 18
1997, battered
Victoria Petersilka, Des Plaines Illinois, fourteen years old,
February 9 2002, suicide/hanging
Terrell Peterson, Atlanta Georgia, five years old, January 16 1998,
battered
Cynteria Phillips, Miami Florida, December 10 1986 - August 14 2000,
rape/murder
Marguerite Pierre, West Orange New Jersey, five years old, December
2005, poison
Emporia Pirtle, Indiana, six years old, November 11 1996, battered
Jason Plischkowsky, Southampton England, May 25 1985 - December 19
1986, head injury
Thomas Plunkett, Lexington County North Carolina, two years old,
February 10 1991, suffocation
Huntly Tamati Pokaia, Huntly New Zealand, three years old, April 2002,
battered
David Polreis, Greeley Colorado, two years old, February 6 1996,
battered
Maryah Che Ponce, Rialto California, December 5 1997 - June 29 2001,
baked in car
Constance S Porter, Kearney Missouri, July 20 1998 - February 12 2001,
battered
Domico Leigh Presnell, Seattle Washington, six years old, April 21
1996, drug (Elavil) overdose
Dakota Denzel Prince-Smith, Lancaster California, five years old, July
8 2003, baked in car
Nehamiah Nate Prince-Smith, Lancaster California, three years old,
July 8 2003, baked in car
Megan Pryor, Milwaukee Wisconsin, two years old, 1997, cough medicine
overdose
Jamee Pugh, Union City California, five months old, March 28 1995,
house fire
Jacob Hollis Quada, Utah, February 17 1979 - January 11 1997
Karen Quill, Saint Louis Saskatchewan, twenty months old, September 13
1997, internal injuries
Christal A Quimby, Rochester New Hampshire, November 17 1975 - August
12 1992, runaway/car crash
Rodrigo Armando Rameriez Jr, Victorville California, eighteen months
old, July 6 2001, drowned in pool
Mark Ramirez, Dracut Massachusetts, two years old, September 7 1998,
drowned in pool
Stephanie Ramos, New York City, eight years old, July 9 2005, dumped
in garbage can
Dejuan Ramsey, Valdosta Georgia, one month old, August 31 2006, baked
in car
Bobby Jo Randolph, Houston Texas, seventeen years old, September 26
1996, asphyxiation
Candice Raynor, North Richmond Virginia, fifteen years old, September
30 2006, runaway/electrocution
Jacquelyn Reah, Grand Rapids Michigan, ten years old, November 27
2004, runaway / hit by car
Patrick Norman Redhead, Oakbank Manitoba, March 24 1984 - August 26
1999, suicide/hanging
Latayna Reese, Bradenton Florida, fifteen years old, April 1996,
runaway
Anwan G Reid, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, eight years old, August 31
1989, house fire
Caprice Reid, New York City, four years old, June 1997, starved and
battered
Jonathan Reid, Gardena California, nine years old, June 9 1997,
treatment withheld
Matthew Reid, Welland Ontario, three years old, December 15 2005,
suffocation
Dustin Rhodes, Litchfield Park Arizona, nine years old, August 13
2003, battered
Tiffany Richins, DeKalb County Georgia, twelve years old, April 26
1981, battered
Alana Rickard-Cowell, Honolulu Hawaii, two months old, April 23 2006,
unknown (broken bones)
Trenton Robbins, North Richland Hills Texas, three weeks old, August
2003, battered
Eric Roberts, Keene Texas, June 16 1979 - February 22 1996, restraint
Michael Robertson, Plantation Florida, seven months old, December 29
1990, suffocation
Kentoya Robinson, DeKalb County Georgia, twenty months old, May 19
2001, battered
Juan Carlos Rodriguez Jr, Liberty Missouri, July 28 2004 - December
2004, oxygen turned off
Yessenia Rodriguez, Dallas Texas, seven months old, January 18 2003,
Ana Rogers, Sparks Nevada, four months old, July 2005, pre-existing
injury
Donderey Rogers, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, fourteen years old, July
30 2002, restraint
William G (Billy) Rohrer III né Muguelito Alvarada, Haddon Township
New Jersey, two years old, May 28 1975, brain hemorrhage
Genevieve "Genny" Rojas, Chula Vista California, four years old, July
21 1995, starvation, scalded
Robert Rollins, Rutland Massachusetts, twelve years old, April 21
1997, restraint
Adrianna Maria Romero-Cram, Veracruz Mexico (US supervision), August
25 2000 - June 13 2005, battered
Guadalupe Rosales III, San Antonio Texas, April 2005 - June 13 2006,
battered
Paola Rosales, Milton Ontario, fourteen years old, July 3 2001,
suicide
Kyle Anthony Ross, Massachusetts, September 7 1995 - June 9 2001,
rottweiler
Shelton Ross, Fair Oaks California, six years old, January 3 1991,
house fire
Carlos Ruiz, Pima County Arizona, thirteen years old, December 16
1994, hiking/fall
Sophia Rush, Saint Paul Minnesota, thirteen years old, September 30
2002, hit by car
Harry Tyrone Rutledge, Hawkins Texas, fifteen years old, September 21
2006, runaway / hit by train
Carlos Salas, Pomona California, eighteen months old, July 1 1986,
battered
Naeem Sanders, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, three years old, November 10
1986, battered
George Santiago, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, seven months old, August
1996, crib death
Manuel Junior Santiago, Medway Massachusetts, May 19 1995 - August 9
1995, baked in car
Marlon Santos, Worcester Massachusetts, five months old, November 5
1998, missing
Andres E Saragos, Warm Springs Oregon, August 5 1995 - July 13 2000,
baked in car
Nathaniel Saunsoci, South Sioux City Nebraska, twenty months old,
September 22 2006, closed head injury
Eric David Schibley, USA, seventeen years old, November 24 1980,
boating/drowning
Kaden Schnitzler, Winnebago County Illinois, two years old, September
25 2006, head injury
Gina M Score, Plankinton South Dakota, May 7 1985 - July 21 1999,
baked by boot camp
Caprice Scott, Florida, infant, 1999, mother in foster care
Ryan Scott, Sheffield Lake Ohio, two years old, March 27 1998,
battered
Krystal Shalene Scurry, Aiken County South Carolina, February 1989 -
November 2 1991, rape / murder
Andrew (Andy) Setzer, California, April 27 1995 - August 2 1999,
battered
Joshua Sharp, Las Vegas Nevada, fifteen months old, August 15 2006,
infection
Joshua Sharpe, Oconomowoc Wisconsin, seventeen years old, December 28
1999, restraint
Ariel Shaw, Bibb County Georgia, nineteen months old, January 26 2000,
battered
Christopher Royce Shepherd aka Hoa Nguyen, Aurora Colorado, six years
old, April 17 1999, battered
Vivan Uk Sheppard, Jacksonville Florida, eight months old, May 15
1999, suffocation
Colby Shirley, Gallup New Mexico, eighteen months old, March 20 2006,
battered
Joseph H Shriver, Pennsylvania, March 2 1997 - October 5 1997,
battered
Isaiah Simmons, Carroll County Maryland, seventeen years old, January
23 2007, restraint
Quincey L Simmons, Omaha Nebraska, August 21 1997 - March 24 2001,
battered
Christopher Simpson, Howell Michigan, seven years old, November 14
1998, house fire
Jordan Simpson né Richard Morrison II, Howell Michigan, five years
old, November 14 1998, house fire
Nicole Simpson née Desira Morrison, Howell Michigan, seven years old,
November 14 1998, house fire
Jonathan Skinner, Waveland Mississippi, three years old, March 28
1986, house fire
Terrance Skinner, Waveland Mississippi, four years old, March 28 1986,
house fire
Devin A Slade, Milwaukee Wisconsin, October 23 2000 - June 19 2001,
asphyxiation
Albert Smith, Tampa Florida, five years old, January 8 1998, battered
Earl Smith, Detroit Michigan, nine years old, November 1995,
restraint
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high speed chase
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battered and bitten
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Shawn D Smith, Daytona Beach Florida, thirteen years old, October 29
2001, suicide
Mark Anthony Soares, Marlborough Massachusetts, sixteen years old,
April 29 1998, restraint
Cindy Gilbert Sohappy, Salem Oregon, sixteen years old, December 6
2003, alcohol
Tristan Sovern, Greensboro North Carolina, sixteen years old, March 4
1998, restraint
Shakeem Spaights, Newark New Jersey, four years old, April 11 1999,
head wound
DeJohn Speed, Saint Paul Minnesota, four years old, January 1994,
battered
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26 1998, untreated curved spine
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2005, scalding
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untreated tuberculosis
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crib death
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suicide
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1992, battered
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restraint
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November 4 1987, battered
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9 2000, camping trip
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2003, stabbing
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stabbing
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suicide
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injury
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restraint
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2000, battered
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virus
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asphyxiation
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2004, gunshot
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1996, restraint
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1999, restraint
Liam Thompson né Dmitry S Ishlankulov, Columbus Ohio, October 3 1999 -
October 3 2002, scalding
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7 2000, asphyxiation
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holding therapy
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asphyxiation
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1993, house fire
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30 2005, drowned in pool
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battered
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battered
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2002
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October 23 1999, German shepherd
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2004, drowned in bathtub
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drowned in bathtub
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2004, battered
Fernando "Fred" Luis Velazquez, West Palm Beach Florida, twelve years
old, September 14 1986, stabbing
Jacqueline Venay, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, six years old, September
18 1998, battered
Reena Virk, Saanich British Columbia, fourteen years old, November 14
1997, teen swarming
Shaqueda Waddell, Taylorsville Utah, six months old, December 9 1993,
head injury
Troy Wade, Fort Myers Florida, thirteen years old, October 22 1983,
runaway / hit by car
George Walker III, DeKalb County Georgia, ten months old, November 7
2002, choking
Jesse Walker, Barbour County Alabama, five years old, January 7 1990,
house fire
Joshua Walker, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, four years old, January 13
2000, hit by bus
Kimberly Walker, Barbour County Alabama, five years old, January 7
1990, house fire
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house fire
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1990, house fire
Pierre Walker, Chicago Illinois, ten years old, July 20 2000, house
fire
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battered
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1989, restraint
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untreated burns
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bathtub drowning
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drowned in toilet
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battered
Omar Wellington, Toronto Ontario, seventeen years old, July 15 2006,
stabbing
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1991, battered
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26 2007, suffocation
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battered
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1999, pneumonia
Keena White, Beech Island South Carolina, January 17 1991 - January 18
1992, head injury
JoAnna (Porscha) Whitfield, Rockledge Florida, four years old, October
24 1989, battered
Devin Wilder, Cleveland Ohio, July 29 1998 - April 21 2001, battered
Anthony Williams, Philadelphia Pennsylvania, two years old, March 2
1997, head injury
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strangulation
Andrew Wilson, Owensboro Kentucky, three years old, August 7 2005,
drowned in pool
Lorenzo J Wilson, Seattle Washington, January 29 2004 - October 22
2004, battered
Rilya Wilson, Florida, September 29 1996 - 2001, lost
Michael Spencer Wiltsie, Silver Springs Florida, September 18 1987 -
February 5 2000, restraint
Carlos Winbush, Brooklyn New York, twenty three months old, February
1998, battered
Tina Winston, Palatine Illinois, eleven years old, July 10 2000,
restraint
Jimmy Allan Wood, Adams County Colorado, fourteen years old, November
13 2002, drug overdose
Jonnie Wood, Springdale Arkansas, eight years old, August 13 2005,
drowning
Kayla Lorrain Wood, Moreno Valley California, sixteen years old,
September 9 2006, runaway/stabbing
Donietha Woods, Buffalo New York, two years old, December 21 1993,
scalding water
Braxton D Wooden, Alba Missouri, May 15 1997 - June 2 2005, gunshot
Donietha Woods, Buffalo New York, two years old, December 21 1993,
scalding
Donte L Woods, West Palm Beach Florida, February 25 1986 - May 27
2002, gunshot
Thomas (T J) Wright, Providence Rhode Island, three years old, October
31 2004, battered
Willie Wright, San Antonio Texas, fourteen years old, March 4 2000,
restraint
Jamie Young, Sierra Vista Arizona, thirteen years old, June 5 1993,
hiking/heatstroke
Kelly Young, Wall Township New Jersey, seventeen years old, January 5
1998, restraint
Kyle Young, Edmonton Alberta, sixteen years old, January 22 2004, fall
in elevator shaft
Rufus Manzie Young Jr, Michigan, four years old, April 6 2003,
battered
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I can certainly tell you how one of them died. I am THE WITNESS that
many have tried to shut up, but can't. Please always stay in touch
with me.
My name is Robert VonZurLinde, and I was in the Infirmary at St.
Colmans Home in Watervliet, N.Y. which is connected to Albany, N.Y. I
was just beaten so bad that I had to be put into the infirmary, and I
just layed there crying. A little later they brought in another little
eight year old boy. He had been beaten so bad in the playroom that he
had blood all over his face, and shirt,and arms. I was in the third
bed in the infirmary, and they put this little boy in the first bed,
just inside the door. This little guy was one of my very best friends
at the time. He couldn't stop screaming, he was hurting so very bad.
One nun came in two times to scream at him to shut up, or else. The
third time she came in, she told me to turn my head, which I did, but
only a little, and I could see everything that was going on. This
little friend of mine was screaming so loud, it must have really
disturbed this nun. When she came in, she took a pillow, and straddled
him, then pushed the pillow down over his face. He kicked, and
screamed, and kicked and screamed some more, and then I watched as he
went limp. They took him to the hospital, where he died.
I have written hundreds of letters, and been on two television
programs telling the story. A book has been writen named, The Throw
Away Child. This book tells of the many tortures that we suffere at
St. Colmans. The beating was witnessed, and the MURDER was witnessed,
and all of the Doctor's certificates, such as a death certificate have
been proven to be altered. When his little body was exhumed in 1995,
there was evidence still left of collapsed lungs, which would indicate
smothering, and not the menengitis that the doctors phonied up to
protect the nuns. I have approached The Bishop, and written hundred of
letters. I have to this date recieved eighteen death threats, and over
two hundred threats to stop.
The Little Boy's Name was Gilbert Bonneau. He was smothered, and died
in November of 1953 at St. Colmans Home in Watervliet, N.Y. The Police
have lied. The District Attorney has conveniently put the case at the
bottom of the pile, everytime it comes up. Without exaggerating, St.
Colmans Home was a torture chamber for little children that had no one
to care about them. Those that had visitor's come to see them were not
marked up as we were. To this very day, I work along with Bill
Bonneau, Danny Bonneau, and Pat Bonneau, along with former NYPD
Detective Gus Papay. I work so hard for justice, but get laughed at. I
am 64 years old, and pretty crippled up now, but I am so thankful that
someone helped me get a computer in 1997, and I learned how to reach
out.
Last October 9th, I went with the Brothers to the potters grave that
St. Colmans dumped Gilberts body in, and almost broke. Then for the
first time in years, I went to St. Colmans. That cold brick building
still looks as it did then. They had the security guards throw me off
the property, and told me that I was not welcome. I was not welcome to
the place that has tormented me to this very day. They Murdered my
little friend, and they beat , and tortured so many others of us.
Please don't ever forget this little eight year old boy who always
shared a slice of old toast with me when he got it, and I shared with
him when I could get it. He went into St. Colmans as a little boy who
needed care, and he came out in a little white pine coffin with his
altar boy gown on, dead. None of us deserved what St. Colmans did. At
least I came out alive but disturbed. Now I still suffer the
nightmares of The Murder of Gilbert Bonneau, and The beatings, and
torture that those nuns could dream up. God Help us all.
bobl...@comcast.net
Thank You For Taking The Time to Read This.
Robert VonZurLinde
Who owns the facility now and what do they call it?
What do you think about how NOW we have agencies
and courts that remove kids to state care without
implementing the Bill of Rights protection of the family
against the agencies and their courts?
Kids in facilities like that in that era were not seen
as moneymakers for agencies were they?
I'm sorry you had to endure that, but thanks for speaking up!
Greg Hanson, Cedar Rapids Iowa
http://suncanaa.com/in_memory_
> boblinde at comcast dot net
Greg..I am sorry, but I just got this email. Gilbert was in St.
Colmans Orphanage for the same reason that most of the rest of us
were. We were either not wanted, or orphans, and we would get dumped
on the doorsteps of St. Colmans. It is in Watervliet, NY. That is a
part of Albany County. Many of us have never recovered, and that
includes me, and I am 64 years old, and crippled due to what happened
to me as a child. Thank God I was able to raise five beautiful
children, and give them all the Love that I only wished that I had
even a part of. They beat us silly. They fed us what the nuns would
not eat, and when we tried to tell anyone, we would get a beating from
the ones we told, and then another from the one we tried to tell
about. I was recently there for the first time since leaving in 1954.
They knew who I was, and threw me off the property. There are many of
us telling our stories, and have been for years. I watched my friend
Gilbert get smothered to death, and I see it at least once a day. The
Albany Bishop has covered up plenty, and he knows it. I don't know
what else to say, Greg. Please just pray for us. You can also Google
the name Gilbert Bonneau, and find plenty.
Thank You,
Bob bobl...@comcast.net
> Kids should be raised by their biological parents.
Correct.
Next best choice would be people who love them and treat them as their
own children.
But absolutely NOT by non related perverts like you, greg.
How's your "Puppet Bear" doing, Dan?