What have you done to help, Greg?
Dan Sullivan
help people who've become involved with CPS?
And please explain how this information has helped your girlfriend in her
quest in getting her daughter back.
WitchWirsen
I suspect that Greg is just in the 'defend my position' stage and has
forgotten all about getting the child back.
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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AdoptaDad
>From: "WitchWirsen" johnc...@mchsi.com
>Date: 11/22/2004 2:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <Q4rod.71294$V41.15138@attbi_s52>
Oh, I think it's moved beyond "not trying". I bet that last thing Greg wants
is to have this child back in her mother's home. How else could you explain
his behavior?
I'm convinced he's not interested in sharing his couch, her mother's
attention, or vacating the "storage room" so her daughter could have her
bedroom back.
Where is the mother anyway? Has she ever posted to this newsgroup?
Dad
WitchWirsen
As far as I know she has never posted here...however, I know that Greg has
had many many invitations for her to do so.
None taken up on as far as I know...and really, how would we know it was
her anyway? Could end up being nothing more than Greg in Drag.
"AdoptaDad" <adop...@aol.com> wrote in message
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three...@kiva.pin
not to true spirit. Your pettiness and scornful shallowness while away
your years and will someday leave you wondering where those days went. And
for all you spawn your useless selfishness is emptiness.
Lono
--
Never it takes a brain to supervise.
-proverb
Greg Hanson
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> Please list the important information you've posted
> on this NG that would help people who've become
> involved with CPS?
Early on in our experience we saw the
"Tricks of the Trade" but resisted the NEGATIVE
view of CPS presented there. We did not believe
that WE were dealing with that kind of corruption.
Very soon we noticed that an AMAZING number of the
descriptions were becoming true.
My biggest wish is that anybody else who is or
might become wrapped up in a CPS case KNOWS
ahead of time that the agencies and the system
are corrupt beyond all belief.
Parents should NOT give CPS any benefit of doubt.
Parents should know that CPS will almost never
give THEM any benefit of doubt, just presumed guilt.
> And please explain how this information has
> helped your girlfriend in her quest in getting
> her daughter back.
Well, we successfully fended off a TPR, partly
by proving some corrupt and conspiratorial
behavior on the part of a contractor.
We successfully fended off a home inspection
that was blatantly and obviously intended
to be a "fishing expedition" looking for dirt.
My SO witnessed the truth that I told the
caseworker, saw his LIES in affidavit, saw
my paper proof (agency documents no less)
and witnessed how the system refused to correct
this known and proven false information once
it was brought to light in and out of court.
Any doubts in her mind that CPS hoped to
create with their LIES about me, backfired.
She saw with her own eyes how the caseworker
took the truth I stated and LIED about it.
She saw my proof and that I had indeed told
the truth. She saw the system refuse to
correct their LIES.
There were SEVERAL other ploys CPS tried
which backfired miserably in their faces.
When they were abusive about moving a visit
just minutes after it already began, she
correctly saw that as abusive and resisted
it, standing her ground, without me.
When the vindictive caseworker threatened
to take away all future visits as a result,
she stood strong, ready to fight, as she should.
When the next visit was held in the little
"fishbowl" room she knew they were looking
in their malicious way for dirt.
Our pessimistic expectations were proven to
be accurate weeks later when the caseworkers
documents arrived weeks later.
The caseworker had complained about the mother
expecting the child to spell words that she
felt was pushing the child too hard.
The caseworker didn't know or forgot that
the child had already been tested at a
5th grade reading level at the end of 1st grade.
One of the words the caseworker mentioned as
"pushing too hard" had actually been given
to the child by her school teacher over a YEAR
prior to this incident.
This nasty, malicious attempt only revealed
the idiotic and evil intentions of CPS.
My contributions?
collaboration, coaching, research, typing, errands.
Dan Sullivan
"Greg Hanson" <Gre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:<MHmod.39$Eu...@fe07.lga>...
> > Please list the important information you've posted
> > on this NG that would help people who've become
> > involved with CPS?
>
> Early on in our experience we saw the
> "Tricks of the Trade" but resisted the NEGATIVE
> view of CPS presented there. We did not believe
> that WE were dealing with that kind of corruption.
> Very soon we noticed that an AMAZING number of the
> descriptions were becoming true.
>
> My biggest wish is that anybody else who is or
> might become wrapped up in a CPS case KNOWS
> ahead of time that the agencies and the system
> are corrupt beyond all belief.
>
> Parents should NOT give CPS any benefit of doubt.
> Parents should know that CPS will almost never
> give THEM any benefit of doubt, just presumed guilt.
>
> > And please explain how this information has
> > helped your girlfriend in her quest in getting
> > her daughter back.
<<<snip>>>
> My contributions?
>
> collaboration,
With whom?
The "fight 'em over every issue" losers?
Remember... the number one protagonist of that position admitted himself
that he "capitulated" to get his children back by signing an agreement with
CPS.
And he bragged about how fast his children came home.
> coaching,
With the advice that has kept the little girl from living with her mother
for almost FOUR YEARS????
> research,
You haven't learned a thing about reunification.
> typing,
BFD.
> errands.
Pathetic.
And don't forget, you bought the little girl sneakers, too.
Move out and let the little girl live
Na, f*** it, Greg.
Stay where you are.
With the loser dope of a mother.
She deserves you... and no more.
And the two of you can go to your graves dreaming about the money that your
never gonna win from CPS.
Have a nice Turkey Day.
Careful you don't choke on the wishbone.
Greg Hanson
> The "fight 'em over every issue" losers?
Including yourself?
YOU suggested hoisting them by their OWN rulebook, Dan.
You have pointed out many times how they
violate their own policies and regulations
constantly. Rember how you explained
how difficult it was to obtain the
caseworkers manual? Now are you pretending
that wasn't to look up (point by point)
each policy violation?
Since you are ridiculing my family for using
that little tidbit which actually came
from you, among others, I'd like to know if
you are suggesting that parents who know of
a large array of issues should ignore some.
Are you really suggesting that if a parent
discovers the agency violated MANY regulations,
that the parent should NOT point that out?
Why would a parent wish to conceal the MANY WAYS
that the CPS agency violated their own policy
and regulations?
At the same time, by the way, the agency is
attempting to exaggerate the most trivial things.
How is it that withholding complaints about
policy violations would HELP the family?
Please explain how you are not playing Judas.
Also, the obvious implication in your complaint
is that we would win through surrender.
This attitude, for people who have seen with
their own eyes the CORRUPT VINDICTIVE behavior
of these agencies, is not on the table, period.
How is it that you claim to know the evils of
these agencies yet you suggest submission to them?
Judas should have known, but you say you DO know.
Doesn't that make you worse than Judas?
Dan Sullivan
> > The "fight 'em over every issue" losers?
>
> Including yourself?
I'm not a loser when it comes to beating CPS.
> YOU suggested hoisting them by their OWN rulebook, Dan.
True.
> You have pointed out many times how they
> violate their own policies and regulations
> constantly.
True.
> Rember how you explained
> how difficult it was to obtain the
> caseworkers manual?
Yup.
> Now are you pretending
> that wasn't to look up (point by point)
> each policy violation?
Sure, you can look up each policy violation.
But, if you really want to get your child back from foster care, you can't
fight over parenting classes, etc... you have to demonstrate that you
believe you're a good parent and that the child is safe in your home.
> Since you are ridiculing my family for using
> that little tidbit which actually came
> from you, among others,
First, you are NOT part of that family.
> I'd like to know if
> you are suggesting that parents who know of
> a large array of issues should ignore some.
If a knockout blow to CPS can be achieved by exposing the mistake that CPS
made in removing the children, why bother going on with the small stuff?
> Are you really suggesting that if a parent
> discovers the agency violated MANY regulations,
> that the parent should NOT point that out?
You can point them ALL out AFTER the child(ren) are returned.
> Why would a parent wish to conceal the MANY WAYS
> that the CPS agency violated their own policy
> and regulations?
As I said, if the parent can secure the return of the child by pointing out
the error that precipitated the removal,l they can , if they wish, point out
the other errors later. AFTER the children are safe at home.
> At the same time, by the way, the agency is
> attempting to exaggerate the most trivial things.
>
> How is it that withholding complaints about
> policy violations would HELP the family?
Because dealing with the primary error gets the children home.
Then the parent can decide whether they should continue fighting with CPS.
> Please explain how you are not playing Judas.
There's nothing to explain.
> Also, the obvious implication in your complaint
> is that we would win through surrender.
Which complaint?
And where did I imply you would "win through surrender?"
You don't actually think you're WINNING with your strategy, do ya, Greg?
> This attitude, for people who have seen with
> their own eyes the CORRUPT VINDICTIVE behavior
> of these agencies, is not on the table, period.
In your girlfriend's case, you mean.
Do I have to tell you that you're the primary example of the loser that
whatsisname always tried to encourage on this NG?
> How is it that you claim to know the evils of
> these agencies yet you suggest submission to them?
Submission of what?
> Judas should have known, but you say you DO know.
???
> Doesn't that make you worse than Judas?
Doesn't what?
You're one sick bastard, Greg.
kane
wrote:
>"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>> Please list the important information you've posted
>> on this NG that would help people who've become
>> involved with CPS?
>
>Early on in our experience we saw the
>"Tricks of the Trade" but resisted the NEGATIVE
>view of CPS presented there.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
> We did not believe
>that WE were dealing with that kind of corruption.
>Very soon we noticed that an AMAZING number of the
>descriptions were becoming true.
Because the were for the most part based on the ignorance you must
maintain to make them "corruption." I watch the twit squad quad daily
foist their ignorance to blame CPS for things CPS either can't do, or
do for very different reasons..usually the statutes the drive their
practices.
>My biggest wish is that anybody else who is or
>might become wrapped up in a CPS case KNOWS
>ahead of time that the agencies and the system
>are corrupt beyond all belief.
You see, that is where you blow it. Now they have to focus on an
agency, a monolith, in fact a nation of agencies, instead of on their
one case, the workers, the judge, the CASA, the GAL, and the others in
the immediate picture.
So you disapate their attention and energy to all that you do here
instead of encouraging them to focus.
But then you are unemployed, and have been for over three years, you
live off someone else, you destroyed a little family of mother and
daughter, and you can't see your resonsibility.
I'd say YOU lack focus and you want others to to eleviate your own
guilt and shame..which you won't face.
>Parents should NOT give CPS any benefit of doubt.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
Well, why don't you sign that, "Dan Sullivan" or "Kane." Have you seen
one thing that suggests a family who is being investigated and or has
had their child(ren) removed should "give CPS any benefit of the
doubt"
Simply saying they are "evil, don't trust them" doesn't cut it. Dan,
if I understand what he does, takes those things where CPS can and
does screw up and help the family by showing them how to use it. I on
the other hand (neither of us are purists in this..I do what he does
sometimes and I presume he what I do) tend to overeducated the
families I worked with. But only in system issues that impacts their
case.
I don't spend a minute discussing the "MULTI BILLION FOSTER INDUSTRY"
WITH THEM" any more than I'd put up with an attorney I'm using in a
real estate dispute giving me the last two hundred year history of
land use planning fiascos by government in my state. And even the
"evil" the perpetuate NOW.
I want to know about cases like mine and outcomes. I want to know the
options I have tactically, to respond and even proactively perform
against what is actually happening to me.
>Parents should know that CPS will almost never
>give THEM any benefit of doubt, just presumed guilt.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
Odd. That isn't so, so why would you want to perpetuate it? You
apparently don't learn by reading. This ng has had data on such things
posted regularly..and if you can't stand to read what Ron posts, and
what I, ol' Kane posts, then FUCKIN' PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT DOUGGIE
POSTS.
We all, but you, know that the vast majority of cases end at the first
allegation.
>> And please explain how this information has
>> helped your girlfriend in her quest in getting
>> her daughter back.
>
>Well, we successfully fended off a TPR,
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
>partly
>by proving some corrupt and conspiratorial
>behavior on the part of a contractor.
Oh, so mom's the mom, but mom doesn't get to mom. That's nice.
>We successfully fended off a home inspection
>that was blatantly and obviously intended
>to be a "fishing expedition" looking for dirt.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
I once lost a fish. Damn thing was over 7 feet long and weighed 1200
lbs, IF I HAD CAUGHT IT.
How do you know what someone would do or their intent before they act?
>My SO witnessed the truth that I told the
>caseworker, saw his LIES in affidavit, saw
>my paper proof (agency documents no less)
>and witnessed how the system refused to correct
>this known and proven false information once
>it was brought to light in and out of court.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
You saw all agency docs eh? That would be a first...give that you
weren't the client. Tell us you went into the CPS office, had the
worker carry the file to you and left you to go over the raw file all
by your little lonesome.....please, tell me that.
And just like the police, or any other investigative and enforcement
agency they can damn well keep any information they wish. You are free
to refute it, but they are not required to remove it. They can, and
usually do, reclassify it as "questioned." Tag it to new
information..but any information gathering agency is not worth shit if
they start throwing everthing away that a suspected perp says is
unproven.
>Any doubts in her mind that CPS hoped to
>create with their LIES about me, backfired.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
Bullshit. She was and is under your direct influence and would be
likely to tell you, and believe, whatever you wanted her to.
>She saw with her own eyes how the caseworker
>took the truth I stated and LIED about it.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
>She saw my proof and that I had indeed told
>the truth. She saw the system refuse to
>correct their LIES.
And laughing all the way back to the file drawer.
>There were SEVERAL other ploys CPS tried
>which backfired miserably in their faces.
Lots of those severals flying around in this ng.
Sometimes CPS fucks up and sometimes it doesn't. You are a CPS success
story, in many ways. The girl is safe, the mother branded as being
uncommitted to the girl (which is obvious after three years), and you
are getting to suck off her for your space and food.
>When they were abusive about moving a visit
>just minutes after it already began, she
>correctly saw that as abusive and resisted
>it, standing her ground, without me.
"Abusive?" I asked my wife if she would please remember to turn off
the garage light at night. I must have caught her at a wrong moment.
She accuse me of being cranky....I almost cried I did.
>When the vindictive caseworker threatened
>to take away all future visits as a result,
>she stood strong, ready to fight, as she should.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
Sounds like you set her perfectly. Combative instead of assertive.
Look how often the former has worked, and how often the latter..as Dan
coaches people to do, and I have coached relatives to do. I tell them,
"never fight. Just quietly assert your position."
>When the next visit was held in the little
>"fishbowl" room she knew they were looking
>in their malicious way for dirt.
Or the other rooms were all full.
>Our pessimistic expectations were proven to
>be accurate weeks later when the caseworkers
>documents arrived weeks later.
What you are doing is creating an adversarial even violent mindset in
readers who don't know the straight skinny. You are inciting them to
hostile reactions, instead of thoughtful engagement, like a good
gladiator. They trained never to get angry..but to be quietly
purposeful and focus focus focus.
>The caseworker had complained about the mother
>expecting the child to spell words that she
>felt was pushing the child too hard.
Let me see now. The mother and the worker disagreed. Never heard of
that before, has anyone else here?
>The caseworker didn't know or forgot that
>the child had already been tested at a
>5th grade reading level at the end of 1st grade.
Let me see, can I from now on, light into you big time and go babble
to the House Ways and Means Committee when you demonstrate you "didn't
know or forgot" something?
>One of the words the caseworker mentioned as
>"pushing too hard" had actually been given
>to the child by her school teacher over a YEAR
>prior to this incident.
You and Shallow Hal brothers, are yah?
>This nasty, malicious attempt only revealed
>the idiotic and evil intentions of CPS.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
Let me see now if I have this right. Your girl friend shows about as
much empathy and understanding of the child as you do and you think
it's the worker's fault.
A child has had to do, to escape you, what that courageous little girl
did, and has lost her mother to a fuckasstwit such as you, and each
time the mother visits with her the child wants to hear, "Honeybaby, I
kicked that asshole gregg hansen out on his lazy ass, and all the way
to the corner" but she instead gets asked to spell a word by that
"mother" who once again breaks her little heart.
Yeah, I think we all see how you and your SO have such a great way of
getting the child back.
>My contributions?
>collaboration, coaching, research, typing, errands.
Is that why the little girl isn't home, greegor tlrg?
Mmmm....yes, we know. I've asked you to post the Motion again. Any
particular reason you haven't?
As for your "research" abilities...well, you can't sort out DHS from
it's departments, and think it does everything, you don't know CRB law
about how many actual CRBs there must be, and what it means and make a
fool of yourself for all time in the national archives from the House
committee meeting testimony because of it,
Your collaboration consists of continuing to whine all day instead of
get out and job hunt. And your coaching consists, based on your faulty
thinking, your fucked up 'research', and your personal stupidity,
encouraging her to take a hostile posture when the state has her kid.
Nice goin' sport.
I have a money making idea for you. Write a book, TLRGIGTFUAMADFFAP,
or "The Low Rent Gigolo's Idiot's Guide to Fuckin' Up a Mother and
Daughter For Fun and Profit"
I'd buy a copy. And burn it.
Anyone that was to follow your advice would do well to consider jail
time. It would be more profitable, and time saving.
Kane
kane
wrote:
>Dan wrote
>> The "fight 'em over every issue" losers?
>
>Including yourself?
>
>YOU suggested hoisting them by their OWN rulebook, Dan.
Always to the extreme in your babbling. I don't know about you but I
sure never assumed Dan meant that every single rule had to be gone
after, and wether or not they changed their underwear daily.
>You have pointed out many times how they
>violate their own policies and regulations
>constantly.
Sure he did. And that has to do with "every" CPS "issue" how again? Or
don't you bother to read the posters actual words any more....no wait,
why would I ask such a dumb question. You rarely get all the words and
you NEVER base any of your babble on those words.
>Rember how you explained
>how difficult it was to obtain the
>caseworkers manual?
Some states don't even have one. You have to go to statute, but rather
than waste our time on badmouthing evil ol' CPS for hiding that
manual, why not focus on how Dan has actually suggested to proceed,
instead of making up his words as you go?
>Now are you pretending
>that wasn't to look up (point by point)
>each policy violation?
Well, no case I ever heard of was involved with every point in policy
AND that clean underware thing you seem so intent on doing. You do get
the metaphore, don't you, or is it too much for your burned out brain
to handle.
>Since you are ridiculing my family for using
>that little tidbit which actually came
>from you, among others,
Oh, I see. Now we are headed to blaming Dan because YOU are a
twittering Complusive...nice goin' their, greegor.
>I'd like to know if
>you are suggesting that parents who know of
>a large array of issues should ignore some.
No wonder you can't hold a job.
I can't speak for Dan, but I can offer some of MY advice, as I used to
give relatives wanting to adopt and foster. FOCUS on your issues and
the childs and ONLY that. Don't waste your time and energy on
"evilol'CPS." You can do that later, after you have the child, the
adoption is final and you are across the border, if need be.
>Are you really suggesting that if a parent
>discovers the agency violated MANY regulations,
>that the parent should NOT point that out?
If it is NOT relevant to the case IT'S A SURE FIRE WAY TO BRAND
YOUSELF, IN THE JUDGES MIND, AS A CERTIFIED ASSHOLE NUTCASE.
The first thing he or she will be asking themself, as you rattle on as
you did in The Motion, is this," What the fu.... is this lamebrain
going on about things that have nothing to do with HIS case..or in
your case, her case?"
>Why would a parent wish to conceal the MANY WAYS
>that the CPS agency violated their own policy
>and regulations?
So that their attorney can do his or her job, so that the judge
doesn't either piss themselves laughing, or so the judge doesnt' start
to think you are a dangerous nut, and remove the kids on that alone.
YOU, ASSHOLE, insured that child would NOT come home. The judge might
NOT have gotten it you wrote The Motion (Fat Chance) and thought the
mother did.
Have her read it aloud to you, if she will without catching on and
going for the knife drawer and her biggest "Chef's"
>At the same time, by the way, the agency is
>attempting to exaggerate the most trivial things.
Yah blooming idiot. THAT WOULD BE WHAT TO FOCUS ON, on the entire old
testament and psalms. Stick to the issues, focus.
Most of the lame advice given by you twits in this ng is of just this
nature. ..try this trick, try that trick, scream about evilol'CPS, but
don't bother to focus ALL your attention and tactical planning to YOUR
CASE ISSUES EXCLUSIVELY.
Let me put it this way, at one time I worked in a job that is none of
your business, but more than once I had to hand over my raw casenotes,
a little black leather covered booklet about 5 by 7, you can pick up
in one of those LE supplies retail stores. hint hint.
My booklet had to conform to my report and they had both better be ON
FUGGIN' TOPIC, or I was do for a high colonic sans fluid.
>How is it that withholding complaints about
>policy violations would HELP the family?
Stop the family from looking like nutcases like YOU, possibly?
Please, have someone not related to the issues read your Motion.
Provide towels and spit cup, and an emesis basin might also be in
order.
>Please explain how you are not playing Judas.
Dan's job, (forgive my presumption Dan) is NOT the immediate
distruction of CPS and all on premises and walking past, as one of our
long missing coward shitheads has suggested as a solution for getting
one's kids back, but a find surgical extraction...as quickly as
possible, with as little blood letting as possible.
CPS, the Courts, and the citizenry through the legislatures DON'T LIKE
AND WON'T PUT UP WITH YOUR TACTICS YOU TWITTERING FOOL.
We are all OUTTAHGETCHAGREEGOR, big time. Your kind will destroy a
system in the mistaken notion it will create a new dawn, and all it
will really do is leave a lot of bloody bodies about...in this case
children, and OTHER FAMILIES that might be mistaken for you, and you
still won't get your kid back, fool.
Dan and you don't have the comparative scores he enjoys because he
doesn't know what he's doing and you do.....you, and most here at last
count, pull an absolute zero. He has scores, dozens of families he has
helped to complete success...by just the careful methods I point at.
>Also, the obvious implication in your complaint
>is that we would win through surrender.
Well, if you have a mindset that insists that NOT LEAVING EVERYONE
DEAD OR BLOODY is surrender, then yes, his methods won't work. Trouble
is, HIS HAVE worked, so something in your thinking is escew.
>This attitude, for people who have seen with
>their own eyes the CORRUPT VINDICTIVE behavior
>of these agencies, is not on the table, period.
I believe you. A normal person who says, "non negotiable" is always
fakin' it, but you are stupid enough to mean it.
But speaking of not on the table, period, neither at this time is the
child from your SO, the Christines and their children, and dozens of
other folks that went the route you propose and champion.
>How is it that you claim to know the evils of
>these agencies yet you suggest submission to them?
Because he hasn't taken on being a fuggin' fool like you have. He has
no desire to corner a women and live off her (whoa...maybe if she was
hot...no no...sorry, my bad..forgive me Dan) and dump her kid along
the way.
>Judas should have known, but you say you DO know.
I can't tell if you are comparing Dan to Judas or not, but I've never
known him to betray a family, and I've watched you a-holes betray
family after family that comes here...sometimes with stupid advice to
play crusader when their kids are at stake, sometimes to use tricks
and scams and diversions that DO NOT WORK...CPS AND THE JUDGE HAS SEEN
THEM ALL..yah dummy, and even dangerous advice that could get people
physically injured or killed.
You don't understand the comment, "Day in court" as a concept for
planning. You don't understand the word I keep throwing around when I
discuss Dan and what he does, "Tactics."
You are full of yourself in ways Dan Sullivan is certainly not. YOU
are the focus of everything you discuss.
Dan seems inordinately focused on the family and their need, and does
his self congratulation dances AFTER THE BRIDE HAS WALKED DOWN THE
AISLE AND SAID "I DO."
After the kids are back home and the finding is reversed. That's what
he does. For himself and for others. And it drives you failure and
propaganda oriented fools mad. He proves it can be done..and YOU can't
do it, yah limp dicks.
>Doesn't that make you worse than Judas?
Yes, he much worse than Judas. Judas was a loser hanging from a little
tree. Dan is a winner, again and again..ask NY child protection.
So if that is "worse," gimme some.
Look child, even out and out reform crusading goes terribly wrong on
this "kill cps...dig up everything and throw it all at them at once.."
crappola.
Focus..that is the name of the game. Let's see if word definitions
will help you out.
Note "b." it's the one that applies here:
"
strat搪搽y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (strt-j)
n. pl. strat搪搽ies
The science and art of using all the forces of a nation to execute
approved plans as effectively as possible during peace or war.
b. The science and art of military command as applied to the overall
planning and conduct of large-scale combat operations.
A plan of action resulting from strategy or intended to accomplish a
specific goal. See Synonyms at plan.
The art or skill of using stratagems in endeavors such as politics and
business.
"
I may be Dan's equal in this. I do very very long range planning
carefully picking objectives, just a few, often only one. But I have
the capacity to carry a great many goals at once. <blush>
It can take four or five years for my strategy to come to fruition,
like that supervisor I finally got fired from CPS. I have about six
strategies, goals, in the works right now. In five years they'll all
have happened, but I'll have replacements for each at it is done. I'll
never run out of fun things to do.
How knows, YOU might be one of my strategic goals. R R R R R R R
I had to use, as all strategists must, tactics. Those are the things
you actually do, in the field as it were...what Dan appears to have
mastered for himself and families against CPS very well indeedy. He's
very likely my better in this. I'd bet on it. But I'm no slouch...if
you read and watch you'll already know that.
"
tac暗ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tktk)
n.
An expedient for achieving a goal; a maneuver.
"
See the difference? You have, your motion shows us, a terrible
confusion between these winning priciples.
You think your tactics ARE your strategy.
Fine, know everything you can about the enemy, if you think that will
help...I doubt even Ike did that, he delegated the details, not being
a tactician, but a master strategist.
And he only studied the armies he went up against, the divisions...he
didn't worry much about Africa when he was facing Normandy. Even if
the Germans were also in Africa.
But knowing everything and trying to apply everything ( and you sure
as hell demonstrate here you don't know everything about CPS ) at once
in a tactical moment...like an appeal to the court we refer to as "The
Motion," couldn't be dumber.
You are a flounderer. You cannot focus. You expend vast amounts of
energy, and it gets your blood up, your adrenaline rushing, and takes
you were?
Well, you got a job yet? You married yet? You got the Iowa cash
settlement for them "lying" about you yet? You got the little girl
back and don't sleep at night with your fist protectively curled
around your balls yet?
I'm often amused Dan even bothers to post to you. You are as far apart
as a lion and hyena, and lions eat hyenas that get too fuggin' cheeky,
yah dummy.
If you really sincerely wanted that child back you'd be hungry to
figure out what Dan knows. But you aren't so you don't, and you won't,
and you can't.
And he's been givin' it away here for two years I know of. More
probably. And you and other fools are in total resistance and denial
and think yourself clever with insinuations he betrays his families,
like Judas.
Yeah, he betrays them right into pickin' up their kids from foster
care and taken' them home, time and time again with different
families.
But you are no big deal. You are just a low rent gigolo, after all.
Why should he care about you bumbling about?
Kane
AdoptaDad
>Date: 11/23/2004 11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <f77b8b6e.04112...@posting.google.com>
< snip >
>>Are you really suggesting that if a parent
>>discovers the agency violated MANY regulations,
>>that the parent should NOT point that out?
>
>If it is NOT relevant to the case IT'S A SURE FIRE WAY TO BRAND
>YOUSELF, IN THE JUDGES MIND, AS A CERTIFIED ASSHOLE NUTCASE.
Having never read it before, today I googled Greg's infamous motion to the
court. What a piece of rambling, incoherent, narcissistic gibberish.
It's absolutely hysterical, especially the parts about teaching a
pro-spanking parenting class, demanding that CPS pay for storage fees, and
setting the terms and conditions for future CPS home inspections.
I thought Kane, Dan, and Sherman were embellishing those parts. Nope. Best
laugh I had all day.
Dad
Dan Sullivan
Can you imagine the screams of laughter coming from the Judge's chambers as
they read Greg's Motion?
I really enjoyed the quiz Greg wanted the Judge to take!
29 questions, wasn't it?
And how 'bout Greg's ability to teach his cat to do dog tricks!!!
Why would they want Greg to take a psych eval?
Isn't he the smartest person you've ever known???
Super Pissed Dad
spd
Sherman
"Super Pissed Dad" <vis...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> is the kid visiting for Thanksgiving ? Something about this case stinks...
>
> spd
Might as well. After all, the turkey's already there...
Sherman
Dan Sullivan
"Sherman" <Sher...@adelphia.com> wrote in message
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Don't you mean carcass?