Food bank offers Gluten-free
Christopher Jahn
Associated Press Writer
LOVELAND, Colo. -- As a mother of seven, Anne Miller already had
a whopping grocery bill. When doctors recommended her teenage
daughter go on a gluten-free diet, the family food bill went
higher than Miller could afford.
So Miller was first in line this week when a food pantry in this
northern Colorado city became the nation's first to promote
gluten-free food for needy families with wheat allergies.
"Basically the whole family has to eat gluten-free now," said
Miller, who walked out of the House of Neighborly Service food
bank with a grocery cart full of gluten-free soups, pastas and
pizza dough mix. "It becomes extremely, extremely expensive."
The food pantry, founded in 1961, opened its gluten-free food
section after local activists with wheat allergies volunteered to
pull it together. Activists say the food bank is the nation's
first with a special program for people with celiac disease, a
wheat allergy whose patients suffer intestinal damage if they eat
gluten.
Celiac sufferers say that although more gluten-free products are
in grocery stores these days, they're so pricey that many with
wheat allergies simply forego bread and stick to meat, fruits and
vegetables.
Bill Eyl, 68, president of the national Celiac Sprue Association,
was on hand for the opening of the gluten-free food bank. People
with wheat allergies, he said, can see their food bills triple.
"You walk into a fancy food store and look for the gluten-free
bread, and it's $4 to $6 for a loaf that's only this big," said
Eyl, holding his fingers about six inches apart.
The House of Neighborly Service still offers plenty of
conventional breads and soups. Volunteers simply cleared out a
section for soups and bread mixes without gluten and started
asking activists with celiac disease to bring donations. A Denver
tortilla maker signed on to bring gluten-free flatbread. Pretty
soon local wheat-free volunteers had several shelves stacked with
gluten-free offerings.
"Food should not be a luxury," said Deanna Olson, a Loveland
woman who has celiac disease and brought in donations. "It
doesn't really bother me that there's a $5 loaf of bread. But not
everyone has that abundance."
Another volunteer with celiac disease, Dee Valdez, runs a blog
support group for people with wheat allergies. She's had celiac
disease for 17 years and said a top concern of people with a new
diagnosis is how expensive gluten-free food can be. Biscuit mix,
for example, costs about $2 a box with gluten - or up to $7
without.
"I talked to a mother once who said, 'I have to choose between
feeding all of my kids or taking care of my one daughter who
can't have gluten,'" Valdez said. "When you know that you're
feeding your kid poison, and you say, 'My daughter or son is just
going to have to live with diarrhea,' that just breaks your
heart."
The food bank's manager, Erin Becerra, said she's not sure how
many people will take advantage of the gluten-free offerings. The
pantry now provides monthly baskets of nonperishable food to
about 560 families.
Recipients still have to meet food pantry income guidelines and
live in the Loveland area, she said. A family of four, for
example, has to earn less than about $32,000 a year, and there
won't be an income exception for people with celiac disease.
Estimates vary on how many people are allergic to wheat, but
advocates say up to 1 percent of people have some problem
digesting gluten. Symptoms range from indigestion and diarrhea to
severe intestinal damage.
"I'm really curious how many people take advantage of this
option," Becerra said. "I would imagine we'd hear from some new
families, but right now I'm just not sure."
Anne Miller's gluten-intolerant daughter, 16-year-old Alanya,
said she's looking forward to more pasta and bread now that her
family has joined the House of Neighborly Service food bank. The
Millers joined after hearing about the gluten-free options.
"It'll be cool to eat that stuff again," Alanya Miller said.
Josepi
I guess people need to whine more often. Wow!
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Don Wiss
>By KRISTEN WYATT
>Associated Press Writer
>Celiac sufferers say that although more gluten-free products are
>in grocery stores these days, they're so pricey that many with
>wheat allergies simply forego bread and stick to meat, fruits and
>vegetables.
Which is a good thing. Bread is nothing but empty carbs. Grains are so
lacking they have to fortify them. This makes them carb laden vitamin
pills.
Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
Josepi
That is the point of the gluten free food bank. Celiac sufferers can now
enjoy the "carb laden vitamin pills" also. LOL
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> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Christopher Jahn <xj...@yahoo.com> posted:
Christopher Jahn
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> "Don Wiss" <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote in message
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>
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Christopher Jahn <xj...@yahoo.com>
>> posted:
>>> By KRISTEN WYATT
>>> Associated Press Writer
>>> Celiac sufferers say that although more gluten-free products
>>> are in grocery stores these days, they're so pricey that many
>>> with wheat allergies simply forego bread and stick to meat,
>>> fruits and vegetables.
>>
>> Which is a good thing. Bread is nothing but empty
>> carbs. Grains are so lacking they have to fortify them. This
>> makes them carb laden vitamin pills.
>>
>> Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
>
> [bottom posting confusion rectified]
>
> That is the point of the gluten free food bank. Celiac
> sufferers can now enjoy the "carb laden vitamin pills" also.
> LOL
Nothing wrong with the occasional bread product, as long as it's
not the major portion of the meal. I love a turkey sandwhich after
Thanksgiving. And I don't care what anyone says, pizza's good
food.
And the article mentions other GF products, it's not all bread and
pasta. Don't forget, wheat ends up in soup, too. Not all of us
have the time to make everything from scratch all the time, and
canned goods are a neccessity for emergency supplies.
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/
Sometimes you need a little finesse, sometimes you need a lot.
Josepi
Many people do quite well on gluten and bread/grain free diets.
EatRight4YourType is one example as well as Atkins diet followers. The
health benefits are massive.
Don's point was that people do not need this input, anyway, contrary to the
promotion of the nutrient to celiacs in the food banks. I have to agree that
grain product restriction was no big loss. My comment was facetious.
The whole food bank thing begs another argument but any half-assed celiac
that wasn't so lazy would purchase only the gluten free products and have
the world support them for the rest. The exercise would probably do many of
them good.
I love turkey sandwiches also. We often cook another turkey after the crowd
leaves just for those left-over sandwiches. I often have to check my wood
working shop to see if floor sweepings were used in the toaster...LOL
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Nothing wrong with the occasional bread product, as long as it's
not the major portion of the meal. I love a turkey sandwhich after
Thanksgiving. And I don't care what anyone says, pizza's good
food.
And the article mentions other GF products, it's not all bread and
pasta. Don't forget, wheat ends up in soup, too. Not all of us
have the time to make everything from scratch all the time, and
canned goods are a neccessity for emergency supplies.
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"Josepi" <J...@inv.alid.com> wrote in
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That is the point of the gluten free food bank. Celiac
sufferers can now enjoy the "carb laden vitamin pills" also.
LOL
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Josepi
statement of
"Grains are so lacking they have to fortify them"
was meant to say
"Grain **products** are so lacking..."
It is what they do to them to make the kiddies, old and young, like them.
Please correct if this was not the case.
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> Actually I believe Don may have misstated what he meant. I
> believe his statement of
> "Grains are so lacking they have to fortify them"
>
> was meant to say
> "Grain *products* are so lacking..."
Good point. Grains themselves are nutritious, and that's why
dieticians include them in a healthy diet.
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/
My powers are beyond your understanding!
Don Wiss
>Josepi <J...@inv.alid.com> wrote in
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>
>> Actually I believe Don may have misstated what he meant. I
>> believe his statement of
>> "Grains are so lacking they have to fortify them"
>>
>> was meant to say
>> "Grain *products* are so lacking..."
>
>Good point. Grains themselves are nutritious, and that's why
>dieticians include them in a healthy diet.
No. Compared to other foods grains are not nutritious. And if they have
been refined there is not much left. Hence fortification. If not refined,
you have to deal with the seed's anti-nutriants, like phytic acid. Plants
have to put anti-nutriants into seeds (excluding fruit seeds, which are
designed to be eaten but not digested). Otherwise their seeds would be
eaten by all creatures and they wouldn't be able to reproduce.
Humans used to do things like soak grains to get rid of the anti-nutriants.
The used to ferment soy for the same reason. But now-a-days we don't
bother.
Dieticians push the foods that they are taught to push. They are taught by
the food industry. You can see where the money is by looking at what foods
get the largest support from the government. And you will find grains at
the top of the list.
To sum up. There is nothing in grains that isn't available in other foods
in higher concentrations. But grains are a cheap source of carbs.
Don <www.paleodiet.com> (e-mail link at page bottom).
Josepi
go by chemical content of foods instead of bio-availabilty of the compounds.
They totally ignore the other side-effect nutrients of foods. eg. I would be
sure that poison varieties of mushroom contain lots of nutrients good for
the human body.
Don, I have had a quick look at your at you website and understand where you
are comming from, more, provided you believe in most of the posted link
information.
The paleo diet look very similar to D'adamo's preachings for blood type O
people. I have seen a few success cases using this anti-grain basis. I have
seen a few that gave up in dispair, also but mostly seemed to be different
blood types. Have you followed any of D'adamo's information?
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Good point. Grains themselves are nutritious, and that's why
dieticians include them in a healthy diet.
--
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> "Josepi" <J...@inv.alid.com> wrote innews:BAaXm.99321$rE5....@newsfe08.iad:
>
> > Actually I believe Don may have misstated what he meant. I
> > believe his statement of
> > "Grains are so lacking they have to fortify them"
>
> > was meant to say
> > "Grain *products* are so lacking..."
>
> Good point. Grains themselves are nutritious, and that's why
> dieticians include them in a healthy diet.
You assume the dieticians are giving good advice. Whereas,
their counsel is dangerous on a range of points in my
experience.
It is certainly dangerous to celiac sufferer. And they often
suffer from host of ills which would tend to lead to unemployment.
And their advice to type 2 diabetes is awful. Read what
the folks on alt.support.diabetes have to say.
Dieticians' advice leads to obesity, impotence, syndrome X,
arterial disease, and earlier type 2 DM.
Their counsel on vitamin D is the main cause of type 1 diabetes,
multiple sclerosis, and likely numerous cancers.
And their dietary suggestions contribute to osteoporosis at several
levels.
Trig
Don Wiss
>Don, I have had a quick look at your at you website and understand where you
>are comming from, more, provided you believe in most of the posted link
>information.
I don't know about agree with most of the info there, but I completely
follow the paleo diet Neanderthin style. The only times I stray is when
traveling and I'll eat potatoes and rice to fill up.
Wikipedia doesn't do a good job of pointing out that the paleo diet is
split into two camps. Under Neanderthin saturated fat is fine (at least
from grass fed animals) and no oils from seeds. (Olive is a fruit oil, and
coconut is a nut oil.) The Loren Cordain camp says the paleo diet was low
fat and to use canola oil. Being in the Neanderthin camp I disagree with
him.
>The paleo diet look very similar to D'adamo's preachings for blood type O
>people. I have seen a few success cases using this anti-grain basis. I have
>seen a few that gave up in dispair, also but mostly seemed to be different
>blood types. Have you followed any of D'adamo's information?
All I know is I am Type O. I have not followed his preachings. I think
everybody should be on the paleo diet, or in his case, everybody is a Type
O. So his splitting the people up makes no sense to me.
Josepi
is not an exact science. My experiences with it, as a type "O" was
wonderful, although difficult to maintain perfectly, but my wife, type "A"
found it did nothing for her, gained weight, and did not feel any different
or better. The concept is that type A and B are more developed in evolution
and can tolerate some of the offending substances more.
His preachings are based on each susbstance in a Petri (sp?) dish mixed with
a blood sample causing aglutination, whatever that is and then avoiding
those foods that cause that. His son, following up on the father's theories
and work began to split the types further into the rH factors. Me thinks
there are still some factors unknown as it is not 100% and I feel mostly
failure in the non type O people.
I know I still have some quirks to work out for myself as gluten free does
not always make a perfect diet for me. I may not be celiac, or have other
food sensitivities, especially grains. Under the type O spec, spelt and some
other ancient grains were allowed but not corn?? It's been awhile, now.
I have noticed some movement on groups that fell that mankind is just not
evolved enough to digest these newly introduced foods and that somehow makes
sense, as it simplifies the whole concept.
It certainly is interesting as there are so many theories that are so close
to each other based on totally different principles.
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Trawley Trash
Don Wiss <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote:
> All I know is I am Type O. I have not followed his
> (D'Adamo's) preachings. I think everybody should be on the
> paleo diet, or in his case, everybody is a Type O. So his
> splitting the people up makes no sense to me.
This is a serious error. If there is one thing that should be
clear from the discovery of celiac, it is that different people
*require* different diets.
All of your paleo diet stuff seems to be based on Darwinism. This is
an early discredited form of evolution. One of the key differences is
that individuals do not evolve. Only groups evolve.
In any group different individuals will have different dietary
requirements. Most obviously men, women, children, and older
people all have different requirements. There are also individual
differences that are also inherited through DNA.
Genetic diversity is fundamental to evolution. There never was
a time when our ancestors could all eat the same food.
When I was young, women used to wean their babies. You would hear them
talk for hours about what exactly was in baby food. It was understood
that every baby would do best on its own diet. It takes two years of
individual (not time-shared) attention to wean a baby.
These days no one bothers. Babies are expected to eat what their
mother eats. As a result we have an epidemic of auto-immune diseases
like celiac, Crohns, Srojen's, lupus, and
diabetes. People are eating things that make them ill, and suffering
because of it. Our doctors are mostly quacks; medicine has
no cure for diseases of child neglect. Instead they sell us expensive
symptomatic treatments that cure nothing.
The only cure for celiac is to stay away from gluten. There
are hundreds of other autoimmune diseases that are also caused by
inappropriate diet. To restore our health we must wean ourselves
using an elimination diet. Then we must wrest
control of our diet away from quacks who tell us we should all
eat what they eat.
Josepi
Here is a quote from a previous post, by yourself, in repsonse to a celiac
definition argument.
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"> The corn allergy is a seperate condition.
This is where we disagree. Celiac is not the same for everyone.
We react differently both in our symptoms and in the particular
proteins we are sensitive to. Some celiacs react to corn because
the part of the gluten protein that our B-cells stick to (which varies
according to our genetics) is also found in corn. WOBR
grains and corn are in the same family called poaceae, so many of
the proteins are similar. You are dreaming about an oversimplified
idealized celiac disease model."
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I trust your Christmas went well!
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Trawley Trash
"Josepi" <J...@invaliid.con> wrote:
> Is this not an "about face" for you, somewhat?
>
> Here is a quote from a previous post, by yourself, in repsonse to a
> celiac definition argument.
I don't think so. Can you be more specific?
In any event I reserve the right to change my opinion any time I learn
something new!
My views have changed a bit in the last year, since I have
come face to face with the devastating realization that am sensitive to
corn and rice as well as WOBR glutens. Going back over what I have
learned in the last few years, I looks like celiac is a common
cluster of reactions to closely related plant species. Not everyone
has exactly the same reactions, nor is there one gene that explains
it. However if you look at it from the standpoint of evolution
(*not* *Darwinism*) it begins to make sense.
Another more recent devastating realization was that I am diabetic. The
most sensitive test that I have for gluten exposure is my blood glucose
meter. So in addition to dermatitis herpetiformis, in addition
to sneezing, runny nose, and headaches, in addition to intestinal
damage (presumably villi but not biopsy diagnosed), gluten and
other things also
causes autoimmune pancreatitis. At least in me it does.
So what I am coming around to believe is that celiac is one allergy.
There are thousands of different allergies, some of which may be
expressed in blood types. People with type O blood are allergic to
(have antibodies to) both type A and type B antigens. This means that
type O blood is free of those antigens, because they are removed by an
immune system reaction. That is why type O is the universal
donor blood type: because they have two common allergies that
many other people do not have.
Nobody knows where those type A and type B antigens come from. The
reactions are not inborn, but they show up very early. They could come
from things like wheat and milk. This would give the paleo diet
a scientific basis in that it is wheat and milk free. This would
only apply to those with type O blood. But
all this is speculation that ran through my mind because I bothered to
look up blood types before I responded to Don Wiss last night.
The other factoid that stuck was that they have refined blood
types so that there are now *sixty* of them. If so, blood types
*might* actually be related to allergies.
I am rambling a bit and I want to close, but the thing that bit
me in Don's post was the idea that everyone should follow the paleo
diet. The same immune system that makes us resistant to different
diseases also makes us ill from different foods. It is exactly the
same mechanism. Even if we had been once all able to live on the paleo
diet, evolution guarantees that we cannot do so today. We
are not all immune to the same diseases, and
we cannot all eat the same food.
I do not claim to be perfect, but where have I ever said anything
different? (I am unable to locate those earlier words you say that I
wrote. I do not disown them, but a date would help).
Josepi
should be able to isolate your posts at the click of a button. I have found
the date and time for you.
Not a big deal but you did retort quite strongly and it made a mark in my
mind, at the time.
Good on you for admitting a mind change. I would hope we all grow and change
sometimes.
Ever think about seeing a Naturopathic Doctor? May be tough to find one
knowledgeable in your maladity but they can usually find a common underlying
problem that leads to all the sysmptoms. This is unlike a the chem/cut
medical tribe who don't have enough different skin creams to cover all your
tribulations.
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From: Trawley Trash <tr...@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Modified Corn Starch
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:21:40 -0700
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"Trawley Trash" <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Trawley Trash
"Josepi" <J...@invaliid.con> wrote:
> You have only made a few posts in the last few years. Your news
> browser should be able to isolate your posts at the click of a
> button. I have found the date and time for you.
Thank you. While my browser does keep track of my posts, I can
also generate or edit posts without it. The only
accurate record of what I post comes from a search of all posts
in a newsgroup. The search function on the text in messages
is unbelievably slow. I can locate them quickly with the exact
subject or date.
> Not a big deal but you did retort quite strongly and it made a mark
> in my mind, at the time.
I have located the posts, and I am afraid you will not be so
pleased with me when I report that I am as strongly in
favor of evolution as ever.
When I was seven years old my grandmother
gave me two books. One was a beautifully illustrated Walt
Disney's Noah's Ark. The other was *All* *About* *Dinosaurs*
by Roy Chapman Andrews. I had been through the world's largest
zoo in San Diego, and I immediately rejected Noah's Ark as
impossible. Within twenty minutes I was flying
over the fossil beds in Alberta. My grandmother scolded me
for saying that the book put me to sleep,
but I thought I only dreamed I was reading. Ever since that
day, a book has been like a DVD except that it plays much faster
and does not require a player. Years later grandma said
she regretted giving me that book. She never thought I would read it.
She was sure I would prefer the beautiful full color illustrations in
*Noah's* *Ark*.
Grandma was a communist. She was a firm believer in the Stalinist
biology of Lysenko. Inherited characteristics was heresy.
Everything had to depend only on the environment. All truth
was political, and truth was what promoted equality. When I
was in high school, I argued fitfully with her over this for a
few weeks until I decided she was senile. I can only laugh at people
who say the evolution is some kind of communist plot.
Grandma was also a friend of Eleanor Roosevelt's. The two of them
supported Stevenson, and they lost out big when Eisenhower won
the presidency in 1952. To retain some shred of political influence,
they formed an alliance with the religious right based on opposition to
evolution. For decades I was subjected to cruel experiments
which purported to prove that my food intolerances were psychological,
or that I outgrew them, or that faith alone had cured them.
When I objected they gave me brain damaging drugs to cause amnesia.
Washington spooks told any lie they could think of to deny what my
biological father wrote to me. I was never allowed to see those
letters, but the translator insisted on speaking with me about them.
Eisenhower had
the letters retranslated, and the new translation was so bad as to show
malice. Grasses (Rasen) somehow became races
(Rassen). So instead of being allergic to grasses, we hated
all races. Instead of a special diet, I only needed to join the
military and eat mess hall food. Which food was based on the
kosher recipes in the Bible. This is what God intended that we
should all eat.
I met the new translator as well as the university professor who
translated my letters the first time. The new translator's name was
Martin Bormann. Bormann and the crop of thieves and liars around him
suddenly vanished when the Germans dug up his bones in Berlin.
DNA tests confirmed that that Hitler's private secretary had
already been dead for a decade before I met him the first time.
Everything I have ever heard from Washington DC has always been
lies.
Allergies (including celiac) are coded in our DNA. There is no cure
except to avoid the things we are allergic to. They do far more
damage than making us sneeze or a minor skin rash. These symptoms are
indications that our immune systems are attacking our own bodies, and
we should beware that internal organs (such as the pancreas) can be
silently and invisibly damaged as well. It is especially important to
avoid long term treatment with symptomatic remedies such as
antihistamines, decongestants, pain relievers or insulin.
I have not changed my view on evolution. Experience and education have
only strengthened it. In my lifetime biology has gone through a
transformation just as great as astronomy in the days of Galileo and
Newton. I had some wonderful teachers. Today we can look
through a microscope and see that
human chromosome 2 is composed of two ape chromosomes that
stuck together. All creationists can do is mimic James Thurber
and say they see nothing.
Age removes the fear of the persecutions that have often
kept me silent. There is nothing more they can do to me but kill me,
and I will die soon enough anyway.
Darwinism is not evolution. Ignorant people including mainstream
politicians from William Jennings Bryan to Dwight Eisenhower
as well as others who are still alive do not know the difference. I
will not try to teach you what you should have learned
in grammar school. America is the laughingstock of the
civilized world.
Josepi
Here is a video that will prove the atheists wrong! Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88
"Trawley Trash" <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Thank you. While my browser does keep track of my posts, I can
also generate or edit posts without it. The only
accurate record of what I post comes from a search of all posts
in a newsgroup. The search function on the text in messages
is unbelievably slow. I can locate them quickly with the exact
subject or date.
Trawley Trash
"Josepi" <J...@invaliid.con> wrote:
> The apple doesn't fall far from the tree usually....LOL
>
> Here is a video that will prove the atheists wrong! Enjoy!
This is a text news group. Your post is inappropriate.
I never watch videos. Can you put your thoughts into words?
Josepi
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This is a text news group. Your post is inappropriate.
I never watch videos. Can you put your thoughts into words?
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The apple doesn't fall far from the tree usually....LOL
Here is a video that will prove the atheists wrong! Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88
Trawley Trash
"Josepi" <J...@invaliid.con> wrote:
> I only posted text. Troll harder.
You posted a bare link to a video. Many of us
find it difficult to see them.
Apparently it is some kind of religious theme, but
I fail to understand what evolution has to do with
religion. God created heaven and earth, and evolution
explains how He did it.
A Christian does not laugh at the misfortunes of others,
so I think you have some explaining to do.