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Any Over the Counter Test for Presence of Wheat?

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May 17, 2011, 2:51:36 PM5/17/11
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Is there any kind of test strip or other test kit that is available to test
for the presence of wheat in food? It would be extremely convenient when
going - for example - to a restaurant buffet, to be able to test the sauces
of different dishes for wheat. I have to believe such a test kit would be
easy to create but maybe there is not a large enough market for it.

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Don Wiss

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May 17, 2011, 3:27:34 PM5/17/11
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Yes. There are and there has been. They have a minimum level that they can
detect. I think you will find it to be too expensive, as you would use a
strip for each dish.

Here is what I find:

http://ezgluten.com/
http://www.glutentox.com/

http://www.elisa-tek.com/gluten-aller-tek/
http://www.industrysearch.com.au/Products/RIDAQUICK-Gliadin-Dip-Sticks-22533
and others marketed to the food industry

Don. http://paleofood.com/kitchen-equipment.htm (e-mail at page bottom).

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May 18, 2011, 3:14:53 AM5/18/11
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"Don Wiss" <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote in message
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At $10 to $15 per test, obviously they are not priced for any kind of
consumer application.

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Josepi

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May 18, 2011, 6:38:49 PM5/18/11
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Thanx for those links, Don!

It sounded real interesting for the lying and lazy waitresses... until I saw
the prices...OUCH!!!

Cheaper to stick to top of the line steakhouses and not worry about gluten.

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Don Wiss

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May 18, 2011, 7:38:17 PM5/18/11
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On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:38:49 -0400, Josepi <J.R.M.@greesynews.calm> wrote:

>Cheaper to stick to top of the line steakhouses and not worry about gluten.

Certainly not worry about gluten. You show concern, but not worry.

There are more places than steakhouses you can eat. Indian curries
shouldn't have wheat in them. And most appetizers should be wheat-free.
They use chick pea flour. Any restaurant that is in the GFRAP program will
have a gluten-free menu and will be knowledgeable about contamination
issues. And if near a big city try, to find a West Africa restaurant.
Nigerian or Senegalese will have many wheat-free dishes. At the most
authentic there will be no wheat or dairy at all in the menu. But most will
add in dishes from other parts of Africa and couscous and batter appears.

When it comes to sauces you just get used to having none.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

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May 18, 2011, 7:43:06 PM5/18/11
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"Don Wiss" <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote in message
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P.S., if they could develop a consumer test that cost 50 cents per test, I
would take this kit into every restaurant I visit and use three or four
tests per visit.

$10/test is just not commercially viable.

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Josepi

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May 18, 2011, 9:37:01 PM5/18/11
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I have been caught too many times in restaurants with their "no wheat" BS. I
has a big chain restaurant tell me they had rice noodles once and appeared
to check their content sheet, only to be sick for the week and go back a few
weeks later. Another waitress showed me the ingredient list and such a thing
didn't exist their. I couldn't remember her name or they would have fired
her or I could have beat her up in the parking lot?..LOL

The last one was an Oriental Buffet and asking one of the servers, she told
me the Tempura battered fish (Japanese style) was all rice flour used. When
I confirmed with her that "no wheat" was used she did not know the
translation for the word "Wheat" and walked away. I was wary when I
approached the business as Chinese and some other oriental cultures are not
real good with Japanese food expertise. This place I trust their soya sauce
in the little packages but not the sauce in their bottles. I figure they
switch the bottle contents for cheaper brands but the Kikkoman brand on the
bottle lists wheat as a main ingredient. The packages I have experienced,
well, and steal a few of them occasionally for other restaurant visits.

I have done the curry thing a few times but get nervous when the ingredient
knowledge seems poor or they do not understand the English word "Wheat".

When you have been "caught" a few times, badly you "worry" in certain
dietary spots. "concern" is not strong enough, in my vocabulary, and I hate
the word "shouldn't" on this subject matter. I have lots of sauces but have
a repertoire of trusted ones and trusted places to get them at. New places
are always a concern.


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Certainly not worry about gluten. You show concern, but not worry.

There are more places than steakhouses you can eat. Indian curries
shouldn't have wheat in them. And most appetizers should be wheat-free.
They use chick pea flour. Any restaurant that is in the GFRAP program will
have a gluten-free menu and will be knowledgeable about contamination
issues. And if near a big city try, to find a West Africa restaurant.
Nigerian or Senegalese will have many wheat-free dishes. At the most
authentic there will be no wheat or dairy at all in the menu. But most will
add in dishes from other parts of Africa and couscous and batter appears.

When it comes to sauces you just get used to having none.

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Josepi

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May 18, 2011, 9:41:28 PM5/18/11
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Yes, agreed. It would be worth even a $1 or 2 to test the odd food in order
to expand my eating out horizons.

Thankfully the "wheat free" fad has expanded and more awareness has been
promoted in the last few years. I feel this may be somewhat of a result of
the low-carb fad diet getting people away from grain products and then
increasing their sensitivity to them when they attempt to return. The paleo
people have to cheer here.

Many of out pizza chains have gotten gluten free ingredients now. Some are
quite good and some are crap sawdust crusts yet.
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Christopher Jahn

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May 19, 2011, 11:27:06 AM5/19/11
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"W" <persis...@spamarrest.com> wrote in
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> "Don Wiss" <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote in message
> news:92i5t6d67e6tlv4ot...@4ax.com...

>> Yes. There are and there has been. They have a minimum level
>> that they can detect. I think you will find it to be too
>> expensive, as you would use a strip for each dish.
>>
>> Here is what I find:
>>
>> http://ezgluten.com/
>> http://www.glutentox.com/
>>
>> http://www.elisa-tek.com/gluten-aller-tek/
>>
> http://www.industrysearch.com.au/Products/RIDAQUICK-Gliadin-Dip
> -Sticks-22533
>> and others marketed to the food industry
>>
>> Don. http://paleofood.com/kitchen-equipment.htm (e-mail at
>> page bottom).
>
> P.S., if they could develop a consumer test that cost 50 cents
> per test, I would take this kit into every restaurant I visit
> and use three or four tests per visit.
>
> $10/test is just not commercially viable.
>

On the other hand, for the manufacturer, selling at a lower cost
is also not viable. It's going to take a lot of advances before
it's as cheap as a litmus test.

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}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://www.southfloridatheatrescene.com/

Mmm. I forgot about that.

W

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May 19, 2011, 2:18:14 PM5/19/11
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"Christopher Jahn" <xj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I doubt the materials costs in those tests is high. It's probably more a
marketing decision how to price it. The error they are making is to price
the test as if it were being done once a week in a doctor's office. The
insight they seem to be missing is that at a lower price people with wheat
sensitivity would incorporate the test kit into their daily life and volumes
would go much higher.

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Josepi

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May 20, 2011, 1:09:55 PM5/20/11
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Commercial version call for pricing

... includes product monograph, reliability reports and counter top
dispenser.

Home versions from $24.95 MSRP in boxes of 30.

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Christopher Jahn

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May 23, 2011, 12:55:20 PM5/23/11
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"W" <persis...@spamarrest.com> wrote in
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>> > $10/test is just not commercially viable.
>> >
>>
>> On the other hand, for the manufacturer, selling at a lower cost
>> is also not viable. It's going to take a lot of advances before
>> it's as cheap as a litmus test.
>
> I doubt the materials costs in those tests is high.

The cost of materials is always the cheapest part of any
manufacturing. It's assembling the components that drives the
cost. Have you investigated what steps must be taken to produce a
reliable test, reviewed its handling (storage and delivery) and its
shelf life?


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}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://www.southfloridatheatrescene.com/

Afternoon very favorable for romance. Try a single person for a
change.

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