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Fred Dagg

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Apr 27, 2013, 9:08:12 PM4/27/13
to Bernie Wriede

Steve Kramer

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Apr 28, 2013, 12:24:30 PM4/28/13
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I don’t know what is in the URL, but I think all should be advised to not open it.
 
PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
Last PSA <0.05 Next draw AUG 2013 @ 58
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"Fred Dagg" <nts...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:517C767C...@yahoo.com.au...

jloomis

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Apr 28, 2013, 9:09:55 PM4/28/13
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Yes, I understand.....
hummm?
john
"Steve Kramer" <skr...@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message news:klji9v$2cp$1...@dont-email.me...

Alan Meyer

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May 1, 2013, 4:15:49 PM5/1/13
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On 04/28/2013 12:24 PM, Steve Kramer wrote:
> I don’t know what is in the URL, but I think all should be advised to
> not open it.
>
> "Fred Dagg" <nts...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:517C767C...@yahoo.com.au...
> Bernie,
>
> Interesting story.
> Make sure you have your IP camera security all sorted.
>
> http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/world-ogles-our-privacy-as-unsecured-web-cameras-live-stream-unguarded-moments/story-e6freoof-1226630735519
>
> Trev.

I don't have any idea why Fred or Trev posted this here. Perhaps he
thought he was sending it somewhere else and got mixed up. However I
checked it out. It appears to be a benign article in an Australian
newspaper warning people that, if you install a webcam in your house so
that you can monitor what's going on remotely, you better put some
serious password security on it because otherwise everyone else in the
world can also see what's going on in your house.

Alan

I.P. Freely

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May 1, 2013, 5:29:55 PM5/1/13
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Alan Meyer wrote:
>
> I don't have any idea why Fred or Trev posted this here. Perhaps he
> thought he was sending it somewhere else and got mixed up. However I
> checked it out.

I do not go near unvetted websites like that; it's foolish even with
serious firewalls. Visiting it on a corporate or, especially, government
computer could get an employee fired; it's a blatant court martial
offense in my last carer.

Be careful out there.

I.P.

Steve Kramer

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May 1, 2013, 9:35:12 PM5/1/13
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Thanks, Alan. Nice to have a geek on our side.



PSA OCT 2000 @ 46
Biopsy NOV 2000 3+4=7, T2c
RRP DEC 2000 3+4=7), T3cN0M0, SVI, Neg margins
PSA <.1 <.1 <.1 .27 .37 .75 PSAD 0.19 years
EBRT MAY - JULY 2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 PSAD 0.56 years
Lupron started JULY 2003 @ 48
PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 PSAD 1.40 years
Casodex added JUL 2006 @ 51
Last PSA <0.05 Next draw AUG 2013 @ 58
Illegitimati non carborundum




"Alan Meyer" wrote in message news:klrsvc$lh7$1...@dont-email.me...

Bob

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May 3, 2013, 11:45:52 AM5/3/13
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IP... Brisbane's Courier Mail is comparable to the NY Times—just another
big city newspaper... probably less dangerous than Google or Bing... No
need for alarm.

Indeed, it is an interesting OT article... check it out!

Alan Meyer

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May 3, 2013, 3:08:04 PM5/3/13
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On 05/01/2013 05:29 PM, I.P. Freely wrote:

> I do not go near unvetted websites like that; it's foolish even with
> serious firewalls. Visiting it on a corporate or, especially, government
> computer could get an employee fired; it's a blatant court martial
> offense in my last carer.
>
> Be careful out there.

That's reasonable advice. In my own case I'm a lot less concerned about
nasty websites because I run Linux - which is not the target of choice
of most hackers.

However here are my non-expert tips on lowering risk while visiting sites.

1. Keep your browser up to date with the latest security patches.

2. Keep your browser plugins similarly up to date. The biggest security
holes in the past have been the java plugin and the flash plugin. If
you use those, and just about everyone uses flash, make sure you've got
the latest.

3. Always run a virus checker and, if possible, configure it to scan
everything that you can download from the Internet before allowing it to
be saved. That includes email attachments and files saved by the
browser. If you don't have an automatic scan then use a manual scan.

I admit I don't do that on files that I'm very sure about, but I will do
it on anything that I'm not 100% sure of.

If you use Yahoo mail, and probably a lot other mail services, they will
scan anything you try to download before they even send it to you.

4. Check that the URL matches the description in a link.

If there's a mismatch, you've found a problem. Example:

"Please go to your <Yahoo Account> and sign in."

You put your cursor over the link that says "Yahoo Account" and the
browser shows the actual link (usually in the status bar at the bottom
of the screen) to be "kissmytuchas.com" in Romania.

Or it might have some twisted name that looks right unless you look more
carefully, like "yahou.com" or "yahhoo.com" or "yahoo.ru"

I also have two levels of firewall. I have a wifi router that blocks
anything coming in that I didn't request. A "request" means that you
clicked something in your email client or browser, or something else,
that opened a connection to a server and a "response" came back. An
unrequested connection is initiated from outside that you never requested.

The other level is a software firewall in my Windows computers. I use
Zonealarm for that but the latest builtin Windows firewalls are said to
be pretty good. The software firewall has the great virtue of blocking
outgoing requests that you didn't authorize. If you install software
like this you will be shocked at the number of programs running on your
computer that exchange information with unknown computers on the
Internet without ever saying a word to you.

I once bought a scanner and installed the driver for it. My firewall
then told me that a program named "bm.exe" wanted to send out
information on the net, should I let it? I looked up "bm.exe" on the
net and found out it was a program that sent all of my browser bookmarks
to "Bookmark Central", a company that apparently sold information about
who has what bookmarks in their browser. Needless to say I rooted that
piece of bm out of my computer.

Alan

I.P. Freely

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May 3, 2013, 5:09:49 PM5/3/13
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Alan Meyer wrote:
> I.P. Freely wrote:
>
>> I do not go near unvetted websites like that; it's foolish even with
>> serious firewalls. Visiting it on a corporate or, especially, government
>> computer could get an employee fired; it's a blatant court martial
>> offense in my last career.
>>
>> Be careful out there.

> That's reasonable advice ...

I do everything you mentioned and more (for example, I don't use
Windows), but I still don't respond to anything that smacks of trolling;
the risks are just too high, and computers are buggy enough without
rolling them in barnyards. At work, anybody I caught connecting a
government computer with sensitive data on it to the outside world would
pay a big price. When a lieutenant was caught hacking his weapons
laboratory peers' passwords just for kicks, I told him that if he had
worked for me, he would be looking at a court martial, and that he still
would be if he tried it again, on two counts: misuse of federal funds
and compromising government programs. Our national enemies have complete
blueprints of the President's helicopter and our newest fighter jet
thanks in part to lax use of government computers. The same goes for
corporate computers. I apply the same precautions on my home computers
simply because of the headaches of an infected computer, even though I
can't think of any data on my computer I couldn't share with the world.

More persuasive is Bob's explanation that this site is a known
newspaper. OTOH, I'm usually clothed when online, so anybody who wants
to watch me type will turn to Gilligan's Island reruns pretty quickly.

So, tell us ... what are *you* wearing?

I.P.
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