Risk factors for male breast cancer (United States).
Brenda Lee Ehmka
use of aluminum, etc. in deodorants. I get my deodorant from a health food
store. It is natural.. Our skin is very porous and so whatever we put on will
seep in.
BrendaLee
NR wrote:
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> : Cancer Causes Control 1998 May;9(3):269-75
>
> Risk factors for male breast cancer (United States).
>
> Hsing AW, McLaughlin JK, Cocco P, Co Chien HT, Fraumeni JF Jr
>
> Division of Cancer Epidemiology and Genetics, National Cancer Institute,
> Bethesda, MD 20892, USA.
>
> OBJECTIVES: The etiology of male breast cancer is obscure, although an
> excess risk has been associated with Klinefelter syndrome, testicular
> disorders, benign breast disease including gynecomastia, use of exogenous
> estrogens, radiation, and a family history of male or female breast cancer.
> We conducted a case-control study to investigate risk factors further for
> breast cancer in men. METHODS: Based on data from the 1986 National (United
> States) Mortality Followback Survey (NMFS) of almost 20,000 deceased adults
> (age 25 years or over), we compared information obtained from next-of-kin
> interviews of 178 men who died of breast cancer with that of 512 male
> controls who died of other causes. Information was obtained on selected
> demographic and other factors, including diet, exercise, occupation, height
> and weight, and use of tobacco and alcohol. RESULTS: Increased risks were
> found for men who were described by their next-of-kin as very overweight
> (odds ratio [OR] = 2.3, 95 percent confidence interval [CI] = 1.1-5.0). The
> risks associated with the three upper quartiles of body mass index (BMI)
> (wt/ht2) were 1.3, 1.6, and 2.3, respectively, with a significant
> dose-response relationship (P < 0.01). An excess risk was also associated
> with limited exercise (OR = 1.3, CI = 0.8-2.0). Consumption of red meat was
> associated with an increased risk, and consumption of fruits and vegetables
> with a decreased risk, although the trends were not significant. No
> association was found for tobacco or alcohol use, but an excess risk was
> associated with higher levels of socioeconomic status (SES) (OR = 1.8, CI =
> 1.1-3.0). CONCLUSIONS: Our study suggests that obesity increases the risk
> of male breast cancer, possibly through hormonal mechanisms, while dietary
> factors, physical activity, and SES indicators also deserve further
> investigation.
>
> PMID: 9684707, UI: 98347849
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Brenda Lee
Lady DreamCatcher and RFA Wordsmith
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will, sooner or later,
have to find time for illness.
---Edward Stanley, Earl of Derby, 1873
Nubianne Kthulah Black
> This pic is my favorite. http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
>
> WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous* babe is posting
> here. You should check out the SSFA-M Rogues Gallery post to see what the
> fat acceptors look like.
Well, Dr. Manette, here's your proof that tastes vary, and that
confidence is more important than looks.
--
W.INKBlack
Nubianne Kthulah Black
>
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> news:38E6DB74...@klingons.com...
>
> Memo to Brenda: To put Chubianne's comments in their proper perspective,
> she describes herself as big, black and butch. She is also a pornographer
> who is into scarification and men playing tug-of-war with their 'nads.
> Seriously!
You forgot to mention that I'm also an artist and a fashion designer, so
I do know how to rate women's looks...even as coathangers.
I'll be more specific:
If she lost about 20 more lbs (for standard or petite) or gained 20-30
more (for plus), she'd make a great model. Her face is plain and
adjustable, and therefore, will conform to whatever makeup is applied to
it. In other words, she's perfect for regular porn, and should look
into it if her personal values will allow for it. It is highly doubtful
that anyone would be able to pick her out on the street.
So, I wouldn't rate her as "ugly" because I don't think that exists
outside of personality. She is, apparently, confident, so that makes
her relative plainness almost unnoticeable, even to you, NR ;) Well,
that is unless you are just making a show for "loyalty" purposes.
Knowing your history here, I wouldn't be surprised.
I take compliments from antisocial mysogynists with a grain of salt
because I know they are meaningless. They don't come from the heart,
they come from the dick, and whatever flavor that particular dick is
into doesn't matter. That dick is attached to a body which houses a
brain that sees women in general as no more than toys and trophies when
they're "attractive" and as targets for hate, when they're
"unattractive"...so I take it something like, "Wow, that's a cool
videogame!" Nothing really to do with me...just my body which, if given
to a mysogynist, would be badly misused. I love myself more than that.
Hopefully, Brenda loves herself too, and maintains her health not to
conform to any jerk's ideal, but for herself and her own sense of
beauty. I doubt that any amount of complimenting you do now is going to
cover up the hundreds of mysogynistic slurs and insults you've hurled
thusfar...and I believe her smart enough to see through your empty
compliments...I could be wrong, though. If I am, it won't be a shock,
cause I'm a bit jaded about people. I know that many women really do
hate themselves that much.
--
W.INKBlack
Anonymous remailer
> This pic is my favorite.
http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
>
> WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous*
babe is posting
> here. You should check out the SSFA-M Rogues Gallery
post to see what the
> fat acceptors look like.
SHE IS HOT!!!! We need more of her around here and a LOT
LESS OF THE BLOBBY LARDASS BITCHES WITH ROTUND FATTY
FACES AND SQUINTY EYES!
Btw NR, what's the website address of the SSFA-M
Rogues Gallery? I feel like a good knee-slapping laugh
looking at the freaks!
LOL!
Uncle Davey
Nubianne Kthulah Black wrote:
>
> NR wrote:
> > This pic is my favorite. http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
> >
> > WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous* babe is posting
> > here. You should check out the SSFA-M Rogues Gallery post to see what the
> > fat acceptors look like.
>
> Well, Dr. Manette, here's your proof that tastes vary, and that
> confidence is more important than looks.
Jealous are we?
I saw Pamela Anderson in Hello without her make up and of the two girls
without makeup I think I prefer BrendaLee.
She's wanktastic.
Uncle Davey
enialle
brenda, pray why are you posting here in this the fat acceptance
newsgroup? One wonders..
doing Jackie's bidding.
this is sad. really sad.
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:24:31 GMT, Brenda Lee Ehmka
<eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>Another factor that is being examined in the male breast cancer dilemma is the
>use of aluminum, etc. in deodorants. I get my deodorant from a health food
>store. It is natural.. Our skin is very porous and so whatever we put on will
>seep in.
>
>BrendaLee
>
>NR wrote:
>
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"If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making
a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank.
-- Woody Allen
-- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
enialle
Michael Griswold
"Anonymous remailer" <Wi...@wol.be> wrote in message
news:ZFXBWIDX3661...@anonymous.poster...
> NR wrote:
> > This pic is my favorite.
> http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
> >
> > WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous*
> babe is posting
> > here.
Who is she? What's her name? Where do I sign up? I'll take lessons from her
anytime.
Anonymous
>Hopefully, Brenda loves herself too, and maintains her health not to
>conform to any jerk's ideal, but for herself and her own sense of
>beauty. I doubt that any amount of complimenting you do now is going to
>cover up the hundreds of mysogynistic slurs and insults you've hurled
>thusfar...and I believe her smart enough to see through your empty
>compliments...I could be wrong, though. If I am, it won't be a shock,
>cause I'm a bit jaded about people. I know that many women really do
>hate themselves that much.
are you claiming that only a woman who hates herself would like nr or myself?
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
it's evolution baby
- pearl jam
grab a kleenex for this one, cuz there's no god and your idiotic human
ideals are laughable!
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha heh!
- bender
there are only two ways of telling the complete truth - anonymously and
posthumously.
- thomas sowell
larry flynt is right! you all suck!
- homerjsimpson
so you just pretend to be an asshole?
it's what i'm good at.
- man on the moon
Anonymous
>NR wrote:
>> This pic is my favorite. http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
>>
>> WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous* babe is posting
>> fat acceptors look like.
>
>
>Well, Dr. Manette, here's your proof that tastes vary, and that
>confidence is more important than looks.
how so?
brenda is slender and fit.
is it any wonder that guys dig her?
Brenda Lee Ehmka
BrendaLee :)
Michael Griswold wrote:
> "Anonymous remailer" <Wi...@wol.be> wrote in message
> news:ZFXBWIDX3661...@anonymous.poster...
> > NR wrote:
> > > This pic is my favorite.
> > http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
> > >
> > > WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous*
> > babe is posting
> > > here.
>
> Who is she? What's her name? Where do I sign up? I'll take lessons from her
> anytime.
--
Anonymous
>Hopefully, Brenda loves herself too, and maintains her health not to
>conform to any jerk's ideal, but for herself and her own sense of
>beauty. I doubt that any amount of complimenting you do now is going to
>cover up the hundreds of mysogynistic slurs and insults you've hurled
>thusfar...and I believe her smart enough to see through your empty
>compliments...I could be wrong, though. If I am, it won't be a shock,
>cause I'm a bit jaded about people. I know that many women really do
>hate themselves that much.
are you claiming that only a woman who hates herself would like nr or myself?
Anonymous
>NR wrote:
>> This pic is my favorite. http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
>>
>> WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous* babe is posting
>> fat acceptors look like.
>
>
>Well, Dr. Manette, here's your proof that tastes vary, and that
>confidence is more important than looks.
how so?
brenda is slender and fit.
is it any wonder that guys dig her?
Allisson
Anonymous <rema...@anon.xg.nu> wrote:
>chubianne oinked:
>>Hopefully, Brenda loves herself too, and maintains her health not to
>>conform to any jerk's ideal, but for herself and her own sense of
>>beauty. I doubt that any amount of complimenting you do now is going to
>>cover up the hundreds of mysogynistic slurs and insults you've hurled
>>thusfar...and I believe her smart enough to see through your empty
>>compliments...I could be wrong, though. If I am, it won't be a shock,
>>cause I'm a bit jaded about people. I know that many women really do
>>hate themselves that much.
>
>are you claiming that only a woman who hates herself would like nr or myself?
You forgot to include Doc Manette in that group (since he's part of the
cabel).
I think that is what is being claimed, yes.
Allisson
--
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631-474-1405 (msgs)
www.pita.org/allisson (fixed, last updated 3/8/2000)
Dr. Alexander Manette
Nubianne Kthulah Black <kth...@klingons.com> wrote:
> NR wrote:
> > This pic is my favorite.
http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
> >
> > WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous* babe is
posting
> > here. You should check out the SSFA-M Rogues Gallery post to see
what the
> > fat acceptors look like.
>
> Well, Dr. Manette, here's your proof that tastes vary, and that
> confidence is more important than looks.
Your tastes are certainly different than mine, since (judging from her
pictures) I consider Ms. Ehmka to be quite physically attractive, and I
can assure you that it doesn't have anything to do with "confidence". I
will admit, however, that it appears as if she gets rather more sun
exposure than would be wise for long-term beauty. As for your not
considering her to be attractive, I honestly can't imagine that she is
losing any sleep over it.
>
> --
> W.INKBlack
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Nubianne Kthulah Black
>
> In article <3afafb618bf5850a...@anon.xg.nu>,
> Anonymous <rema...@anon.xg.nu> wrote:
> >are you claiming that only a woman who hates herself would like nr or myself?
>
> You forgot to include Doc Manette in that group (since he's part of the
> cabel).
>
> I think that is what is being claimed, yes.
She would either have to hate herself or be adequately deceived.
It could happen, in the sense that "anything is possible", but I'd
venture that it wouldn't be likely. Love covers a multitude of evil,
but it's hard to love someone with your whole heart when they don't
reciprocate in kind.
They don't even have enough empathy not to call women cunts in a public
forum (or in the case of Dr. M, call the calling of women cunts
"worthwhile"). I doubt they'd recognize love if it smacked them on the
behind with a vampire glove.
--
W.INKBlack
Anonymous
>brenda, pray why are you posting here in this the fat acceptance
>newsgroup? One wonders..
why were you reading it?
>doing Jackie's bidding.
>
>this is sad. really sad.
maybe she just enjoys reading my messages.
Nubianne Kthulah Black
> how so?
> brenda is slender and fit.
> is it any wonder that guys dig her?
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
It's no wonder to me when a human "digs" anything from squirrels to
thawed raw chickens.
--
W.INKBlack
Kelmar
> are you claiming that only a woman who hates herself would like nr or myself?
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
****************************************************************************
That just about sums it up. Nail. Head.
Rubyfleur
enialle
>
>enialle wrote:
>>brenda, pray why are you posting here in this the fat acceptance
>>newsgroup? One wonders..
>
>why were you reading it?
because I wanted to see what was going on... and to remark on it...
ah..it's rather self-eplantatory, your odd rhetoricals notwithstanding..
>
>>doing Jackie's bidding.
>>
>>this is sad. really sad.
>
>maybe she just enjoys reading my messages.
reading posts vs becoming a sycophant are measured by apples and oranges.
some people when coated by compliments, fawned over with lots of ego strokes and
massage their sexual desirablity (female or males, tis no matter) apparenatly
throw away their sense of their own beliefs, i fear... for brenda, it meant
she is here lecturing others in a support group not about acceptance
(which is, after all the point of this newsgroup as cited in the faq), but
rather she going on about dieting and exercise as a resident guru all chocked
full of platitudes.. the droning incesssantly on that I am sure the regulars
here have heard all before.. "I did it and so can you!" "Gee my life was so
sucky and look at me, and if I can overcome these obstacles too!"(insert more
dreary plaitudes, ) it was something I beleive over the years brenda prided
herself in; that she can be a person ready to give support. Lecturing is not
support. It is the antithesis for the genesis of this ng.
Brenda is nothing more than another finger-pointer, and cajalor about the
merits of dieting and exercise. You dont think these people have heard the same
shit before? I think yelling louder and in quanity with all of your henchmen
is dispictable and nasty and mean-spirited. She has become one of your
convenient henchmen.
I know you pride your self on attacking people who believe in fat acceptance
Jackie, but brenda sheds her skin for following suit.
Brenda is being what she doesnt like others being... ...I have read her stuff
for years....I was just pointing out her inconsistancy..
We love compliments from the opposite sex about our attractiveness. Who doesnt?
(well save the same sex people...) the difference is to appreciate it for that
alone rather than to identify with the person who gave it, co-optig our sense of
self-worth and our ethics, values, ideals and integrity to go with it. We all
know what you feel about fat women, but brenda was never this way before. You
can pat yourself on the back for turning her into someone who does this.
fetting out inconsistancies, is one service I offer...
I was really looking forward to my new job as a grave
digger - until they told me I'd only be working with *new*
graves."
- R.L. Coppedge
enialle
<eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
>
>But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
>
> .... I've got better thighs and better
>breasts
geez.. she is a sycophants of the first order
not an admirable trait no matter how good you look..
>
>
>:)
>BrendaLee
enialle
<eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
gee you're all heart...
>
>But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
>
> .... I've got better thighs and better
>breasts
>
the question is, can you squawk like a wild woman in bed? I doubt
that.
Brenda Lee Ehmka
But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
.... I've got better thighs and better
breasts
:)
BrendaLee
Nubianne Kthulah Black wrote:
> Anonymous wrote:
> > how so?
> > brenda is slender and fit.
> > is it any wonder that guys dig her?
> > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> It's no wonder to me when a human "digs" anything from squirrels to
> thawed raw chickens.
>
> --
> W.INKBlack
--
Brenda Lee Ehmka
"Dr. Alexander Manette" wrote:
Hello, Dr. Manette. I was waiting till the right moment. Tipping her
fedora. We get to meet at last. :) Thank you for your compliment.
And please, call me BrendaLee.
Thanks also for your concern. I assume you are speaking of the pic in
Florida. My skin was never exposed to the sun at all until just a few
years ago, so I have never subjected myself to long-term sun exposure. I
live in a place that has only about 3 months of what would be termed *summer
weather*. My skin is *very soft* and I moisturize during the time that I am
exposed to the sun. I can handle the pasty white for the better part of the
year, since we are covered and jacketed anyway, but all this hard work has
led me to enjoy that few short months wearing less and just enjoying the
feel of water, and warmth, on my skin. You are correct though. In all
things balance is needed.
BTW, I have enjoyed reading your pieces on health. My life is devoted to
bodily health and nutrition..
It is my intention to earn my Ph.D in holistic nutrition and/or natural
health.
Respectfully,
BrendaLee
BTW #2 .. Impressive web site.. I'm impressed.
>
>
> >
> > --
> > W.INKBlack
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Brenda Lee Ehmka
Of course, you would be speaking , or rather agreeing, for yourself, am I right? :)
BrendaLee
Kelmar wrote:
--
Anonymous
>Anonymous wrote:
>> how so?
>> brenda is slender and fit.
>> is it any wonder that guys dig her?
>> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
>
>It's no wonder to me when a human "digs" anything from squirrels to
>thawed raw chickens.
leave lindasy out of this
Anonymous
>
>>
>>
>> .... I've got better thighs and better
>>breasts
>>
>
>that.
mrrrrowwwwwrrrrr!
David Lindsay
: On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 02:10:27 GMT, Brenda Lee Ehmka
: <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
: >Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
: gee you're all heart...
Here's mine too ..
<------------------hugs---------------->
: >
: >But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
: >
: > .... I've got better thighs and better
: >breasts
: >
: the question is, can you squawk like a wild woman in bed? I doubt
: that.
she'll purr like a kitten ... 'cause I'm very gentle ... leave the B, M,
and S out ... not my cuppa T.
: "If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making
: a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank.
: -- Woody Allen
Peck Peck Peck
-- Woody Woodpecker
: -- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
--
David Lindsay bg...@torfree.net or bg...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
Pesach is 18 days away hurray .. don't delay
Rebbe Nachman of Breslov's Teaching: it's a great Mitzvah to be Happy always
Anonymous
>In article <3afafb618bf5850a...@anon.xg.nu>, Anonymous
><rema...@anon.xg.nu> wrote:
>
>
>> are you claiming that only a woman who hates herself would like nr or
myself?
>> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
>
>****************************************************************************
>
>That just about sums it up. Nail. Head.
the sour grapes of wrath
Nubianne Kthulah Black
>
> Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
>
>
> .... I've got better thighs and better
> breasts
::mind trailing off to the Pamela Anderson episode of Like, News::
Oh...uh...
Yeah ::ahem::
I wasn't comparing you to squirrel or chicken. As a dark eroticist, I'm
fully aware the young, trim (but not emaciated) human females resemble
pork, but the junior psychos would take that to mean fat or something.
What I mean is that people get off on some really bizarre things. Very
little surprises me.
This is the other reason I take compliments on my looks by who is
sending them.
The squirrel:
Were I to put on a couple of mohair sweaters, and touch myself in a
loving way, take a photo of it, and post it, I could be 1000 lbs, and
have a severe facial deformity, but sweater fetishists would consider me
beautiful. To them, *any* woman in sweaters and leg warmers is
beautiful the moment she sexualizes it...and there are female sweater
fetishists too.
Such types are _famous_ for marrying someone, and having that person be
in a sort of aesthetics paradox, because on the one hand, they want
their partner to think they are beautiful or handsome, but then the
hammer falls, when they find out that when their fetishist partner said
they don't care about looks, they really meant it. It's much different
than being able to see beauty in anyone...When they, literally, don't
care about what you look like, only what you do, it's a different
ballgame and not something most people are prepared to deal with. It's
freeing, once one gets used to it, but it's bizarre at first.
If you want an idea of how many sweater fetishists there are, and what
they think, visit Yahoo clubs, and type sweater in their search engine,
then visit the popular ones, and read the forums. Don't forget to check
the member and hit counts too.
Imagine...You could wear an outfit that completely obscures your body,
and gain thousands of instant fans.
Raw chicken:
As you're probably heard from NR, I'm a pornographer...but I'm not just
*any* pornographer. I specialize in the dark. I don't mean gorey pics
of explosion victims and such...I mean horror stories with an element of
sex. I'll put it this way...I know a list of mine is successful when I
have three or four law enforcement and investigations domains show up in
the member list.
My members are mostly "Goths" who do frequent the binaries areas and
sites where _very_ thin is considered beautiful. It has something to do
with deprivation that might lead to death, even though most of the
models, I assume from their staying in business for so long (such as
Malice) are not depriving themselves much, and are naturally thin.
However, most of them have seen pics of me, and that hasn't deterred
them from reading my work, commenting on it, and in some cases, asking
me to either write special works for them, or play out fantasies with
them offline.
One could say that people in both the squirrels and the raw chicken
genres are perverts, but then, so is everyone. There are some people
for whom the missionary position is the highest form of sex. They even
go so far as to promote it on their religious sites as the best, for a
variety of reasons.
It is only the people who wish to force their way on people without
consent that I consider truly perverse. Everyone else is just exploring
and enjoying themselves. I do encourage people to explore the "whys" of
their sexuality, just in case there's something in there that might lead
them, ultimately, to harming themselves or someone else, but once
they've done that, and put on both their mental, spiritual, and
sometimes physical "safety gear", I say enjoy the ride :)
--
W.INKBlack
Allisson
You live in Rochester, yes? I lived there for a year+ but lived in
Syracuse for almost 8 years (it's 3rd in overcast days in the nation)
I seem to recall the summers there as being very pleasant, especially by
the lake. [just out of curiousity, when is the Lilac festival this
year?]. I can vouch for the lack of sun, Doc, and you know how fair I
am.
>My skin is *very soft* and I moisturize during the time that I am
>exposed to the sun. I can handle the pasty white for the better part of the
>year, since we are covered and jacketed anyway, but all this hard work has
>led me to enjoy that few short months wearing less and just enjoying the
>feel of water, and warmth, on my skin. You are correct though. In all
>things balance is needed.
>
True but I dip myself in high spf regardless; most people place me
in person as younger than my age by a good 5+ years and it's something
that I work at with skin care and lots of water.
>BTW, I have enjoyed reading your pieces on health. My life is devoted to
>bodily health and nutrition..
>
He's a good source.
>It is my intention to earn my Ph.D in holistic nutrition and/or natural
>health.
>
>Respectfully,
Aw, you don't have to be to respectful; he's guilty of some of the
worse puns that I've seen in a while. (you don't want to give him
a bigger head than he already has--although, then he might fit into
the fedora that he has yet to exchange).
>BrendaLee
Brenda Lee Ehmka
Anonymous wrote:
> enialle wrote:
> >On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 02:10:27 GMT, Brenda Lee Ehmka
> ><eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
> >
> >gee you're all heart...
> >>
> >>But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
> >>
> >> .... I've got better thighs and better
> >>breasts
> >>
> >
> >the question is, can you squawk like a wild woman in bed? I doubt
> >that.
>
> mrrrrowwwwwrrrrr!
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
You do that *very* well.
Still holding my side.
Sounds from the **heart** breaking the silence of a moment suspended in
time.
BrendaLee
>
>
> it's evolution baby
> - pearl jam
>
> grab a kleenex for this one, cuz there's no god and your idiotic human
> ideals are laughable!
> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha heh!
> - bender
>
> there are only two ways of telling the complete truth - anonymously and
> posthumously.
> - thomas sowell
>
> larry flynt is right! you all suck!
> - homerjsimpson
>
> so you just pretend to be an asshole?
> it's what i'm good at.
> - man on the moon
--
Brenda Lee Ehmka
Kinda been waiting to *meet* you as well..
Allisson wrote:
> Brenda Lee Ehmka <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >
That would be correct.
> I lived there for a year+
Where abouts were you hanging out? Hmm, actually , I have only driven through
Syracuse but I imagine the weather is the same..
> but lived in
> Syracuse for almost 8 years (it's 3rd in overcast days in the nation)
It is all this water around us.
Man, to add insult to injury, they just voted this place the snowiest city in the
Northeast.. Great!
When there *is* a sunny day--- I drop whatever I am doing, get outside and pay
homage.
>
> I seem to recall the summers there as being very pleasant, especially by
> the lake.
They are. It is great rollerblading here. Not too hot. Though I find it a real
joke to have a pool here. In reality there are only about 9-15 weekends of the
prime weather. Instead I opt to drive down to Florida whenever possible and just
soak in the atmosphere.
> [just out of curiousity, when is the Lilac festival this
> year?].
Ha, you weren't kidding. This place is noted for that event. . :) It should be
in about a month and a half, but don't hold me to it.. It is fun walking the
grounds. The smell is simply intoxicating. Not sickish sweet but just enough to
infiltrate the senses dulling you into oblivion for anything other than breathing
it in.. Funny cause I am not really into floral scents. It is different though.
No chemicals added. Guess there really is nothing better than the *real thing*.
Smile.
> I can vouch for the lack of sun, Doc, and you know how fair I
> am.
:) Daydreaming about living somewhere the sun shines more. Allisson? Just for
the record. Tell me that you came here for a job or something.. Cause I can't
imagine one simply choosing to do so just for the hell of it..
>
> >My skin is *very soft* and I moisturize during the time that I am
> >exposed to the sun. I can handle the pasty white for the better part of the
> >year, since we are covered and jacketed anyway, but all this hard work has
> >led me to enjoy that few short months wearing less and just enjoying the
> >feel of water, and warmth, on my skin. You are correct though. In all
> >things balance is needed.
> >
>
> True but I dip myself in high spf regardless; most people place me
> in person as younger than my age by a good 5+ years and it's something
> that I work at with skin care and lots of water.
funny. I never go anywhere without some sort of fluid at my side. I am sitting
here with hot herbal tea and my water bottle. Don't leave home without it. I
even take it to the show.. I don't *do* pop... hehe
>
> >BTW, I have enjoyed reading your pieces on health. My life is devoted to
> >bodily health and nutrition..
> >
>
> He's a good source.
Like I say, I am always eager to learn. And even if you know the concept in
general everyone has their special experiences and nuances to add, bathing the
subject in a whole new light.
>
>
> >It is my intention to earn my Ph.D in holistic nutrition and/or natural
> >health.
> >
> >Respectfully,
>
> Aw, you don't have to be to respectful;
> he's guilty of some of the
> worse puns that I've seen in a while. (you don't want to give him
> a bigger head than he already has--although, then he might fit into
> the fedora that he has yet to exchange).
hehehe. *Nice* to meet you, Allisson.
smile,
BrendaLee.
btw, I have enjoyed reading you and the Doc's exchanges. Life is good!
>
> Allisson
> --
> Allisson Roome
> 631-474-1405 (msgs)
> www.pita.org/allisson (fixed, last updated 3/8/2000)
--
Dr. Alexander Manette
> > Your tastes are certainly different than mine, since (judging from
her
> > pictures) I consider Ms. Ehmka to be quite physically attractive,
and I
> > can assure you that it doesn't have anything to do with
"confidence". I
> > will admit, however, that it appears as if she gets rather more sun
> > exposure than would be wise for long-term beauty. As for your not
> > considering her to be attractive, I honestly can't imagine that she
is
> > losing any sleep over it.
>
> Hello, Dr. Manette. I was waiting till the right moment. Tipping her
> fedora. We get to meet at last. :) Thank you for your
compliment.
> And please, call me BrendaLee.
Certainly, BrendaLee.
>
> Thanks also for your concern. I assume you are speaking of the pic in
> Florida.
In several of your pictures you strongly resemble the sort of blonde
haired sun goddess that I (unfortunately, from a medical point of view)
see quite a bit of around here.
> My skin was never exposed to the sun at all until just a few
> years ago, so I have never subjected myself to long-term sun exposure.
I
> live in a place that has only about 3 months of what would be termed
*summer
> weather*. My skin is *very soft* and I moisturize during the time
that I am
> exposed to the sun.
That doesn't really make any difference, since the damage that high
frequency radiation (i.e. UV light) does to skin (not to mention the
immune system) occurs below the surface, where softness and moisturizers
are not an issue.
> I can handle the pasty white for the better part
of the
> year,
The pasty white look is the healthy look for someone like you. Be proud
to be pale.
> since we are covered and jacketed anyway, but all this hard
> work has
All of the time that you don't spend lying in the sun you can spend
exercising, or working on your Phd. If you are going to work on
something (as in "working on a tan"), I think that it should improve
your physical or mental condition, not damage it.
> led me to enjoy that few short months wearing less and just enjoying
the
> feel of water, and warmth, on my skin.
You can enjoy those feeling just as well while wearing sunblock - pick
something with at least SPF 15, preferably containing Parsol 1789.
> You are correct though. In all
> things balance is needed.
When it comes to sun exposure for faired haired people, there is no
balance involved. The less the better.
>
> BTW, I have enjoyed reading your pieces on health. My life is devoted
to
> bodily health and nutrition..
>
> It is my intention to earn my Ph.D in holistic nutrition and/or
natural
> health.
Would you like some advice in this area?
>
> Respectfully,
> BrendaLee
>
> BTW #2 .. Impressive web site.. I'm impressed.
I have a web site? Well, I'm glad it's an impressive one.
Clarice
enialle wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 02:10:27 GMT, Brenda Lee Ehmka
> <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
> >
> >But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
> >
> > .... I've got better thighs and better
> >breasts
>
> geez.. she is a sycophants of the first order
>
> not an admirable trait no matter how good you look..
Telling the truth isn't sycophantry.
I've seen Brenda's pictures. She's right about her thighs and breasts.
C.
--
'These poor slobs are leaving themselves
wide open for all kinds of abuse.'
-- Hate #26
Clarice
enialle wrote:
> some people when coated by compliments, fawned over with lots of ego strokes and
> massage their sexual desirablity (female or males, tis no matter) apparenatly
> throw away their sense of their own beliefs, i fear... for brenda, it meant
> she is here lecturing others in a support group not about acceptance
> (which is, after all the point of this newsgroup as cited in the faq), but
> rather she going on about dieting and exercise as a resident guru all chocked
> full of platitudes.. the droning incesssantly on that I am sure the regulars
> here have heard all before.. "I did it and so can you!" "Gee my life was so
> sucky and look at me, and if I can overcome these obstacles too!"(insert more
> dreary plaitudes, ) it was something I beleive over the years brenda prided
> herself in; that she can be a person ready to give support. Lecturing is not
> support. It is the antithesis for the genesis of this ng.
Yes, morbid obesity is ugly and spreading lies about the hideous consequences of
morbid obesity is utterly repulsive.
Whereas BrendaLee is stunningly beautiful.
Thus her very existence makes her a natural enemy of the fat acceptance cultthink
propagators.
In other words, I hope she stays.
> Brenda is nothing more than another finger-pointer, and cajalor about the
> merits of dieting and exercise.
Are you a fat acceptor?
> You dont think these people have heard the same
> shit before? I think yelling louder and in quanity with all of your henchmen
> is dispictable and nasty and mean-spirited. She has become one of your
> convenient henchmen.
>
> I know you pride your self on attacking people who believe in fat acceptance
> Jackie, but brenda sheds her skin for following suit.
I was a dedicated fat rejector long before Jackie ever made his debut on ssfa in
'97. Based on the pictures of Brenda's trim and toned body, I'm pretty sure she's
been a long-time fat rejector, too, not, as you imply, a recent Jackie-convert.
Fat rejectance is, after all, the smart and healthy move, aka reality acceptance.
Many millions of people have figgered this out who have never once in their lives
heard of Jackie T. Tokeman or the fat acceptance cult.
C.
--
Their relationship had a great deal to do with the penetration of
Clarice Starling, which she avidly welcomes and encourages.
- Thomas Harris, Hannibal, 1999
Clarice
enialle
>
>
>
>enialle wrote:
>
>>some people when coated by compliments, fawned over with lots of ego strokes and
>> massage their sexual desirablity (female or males, tis no matter) apparenatly
>> throw away their sense of their own beliefs, i fear... for brenda, it meant
>> she is here lecturing others in a support group not about acceptance
>> (which is, after all the point of this newsgroup as cited in the faq), but
>> rather she going on about dieting and exercise as a resident guru all chocked
>> full of platitudes.. the droning incesssantly on that I am sure the regulars
>> here have heard all before.. "I did it and so can you!" "Gee my life was so
>> sucky and look at me, and if I can overcome these obstacles too!"(insert more
>> dreary plaitudes, ) it was something I beleive over the years brenda prided
>> herself in; that she can be a person ready to give support. Lecturing is not
>> support. It is the antithesis for the genesis of this ng.
>
>Yes, morbid obesity is ugly and spreading lies about the hideous consequences of
>morbid obesity is utterly repulsive.
yes I know, let's see, you've utter that phrase what now? 1000 times? I think
most people here kind figured it out already.. So the rest you time serves no
other purpose since the message has been sent. Usually then if one becomes
redundant it called fixation.. and I er would fix that, if I were you. It's
really bad for you mental health.
enialle
>
>
>
>enialle wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 02:10:27 GMT, Brenda Lee Ehmka
>> <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
>> >
>> >But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
>> >
>> > .... I've got better thighs and better
>> >breasts
>>
>>
>> not an admirable trait no matter how good you look..
>
>Telling the truth isn't sycophantry.
it's all bout sychopantry.. you oughta know...insane people tell the truth too.
Egotists tell the truth, hitler told the truth...I am telling the truth...truth
has lost all meaning here.
>I've seen Brenda's pictures. She's right about her thighs and breasts.
big shit, I am petite too. So bigger fucking whoop. let but it this way, it has
nothing to do with my argument...
Anonymous
>In article <38ED1C4E...@quanti.com>, Clarice says...
not if thier bmi is any indication...
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
tkarney@hotmail...com
In article <8cgl9v$1m...@drn.newsguy.com>, enialle <
ohw...@greenheart.com> wrote:
>We love compliments from the opposite sex about our
attractiveness. Who doesnt? (well save the same sex people...)
Call me greedy but I love compliments, no matter the source.
Men just don't do it for me, but I have a body type (slim and
boyish) that a lot of gay men like.
Lucky me, I get more compliements. I have yet to have one get
offended when I say thank you and let him know I am not
interested.
Sorry to derail the topic.
TK
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kim
>In article <38ED1C4E...@quanti.com>, Clarice says...
>>
>>
>>
>>enialle wrote:
>>
>>>some people when coated by compliments, fawned over with lots of ego strokes and
>>> massage their sexual desirablity (female or males, tis no matter) apparenatly
>>> throw away their sense of their own beliefs, i fear... for brenda, it meant
>>> she is here lecturing others in a support group not about acceptance
>>> (which is, after all the point of this newsgroup as cited in the faq), but
>>> rather she going on about dieting and exercise as a resident guru all chocked
>>> full of platitudes.. the droning incesssantly on that I am sure the regulars
>>> here have heard all before.. "I did it and so can you!" "Gee my life was so
>>> sucky and look at me, and if I can overcome these obstacles too!"(insert more
>>> dreary plaitudes, ) it was something I beleive over the years brenda prided
>>> herself in; that she can be a person ready to give support. Lecturing is not
>>> support. It is the antithesis for the genesis of this ng.
>>
>>Yes, morbid obesity is ugly and spreading lies about the hideous consequences of
>>morbid obesity is utterly repulsive.
>
>yes I know, let's see, you've utter that phrase what now? 1000 times? I think
>most people here kind figured it out already.. So the rest you time serves no
>other purpose since the message has been sent. Usually then if one becomes
>redundant it called fixation.. and I er would fix that, if I were you. It's
>really bad for you mental health.
It would be really boring and repetitive, too.
Mebbe Clarice should do something about that.
Kim
Uncle Davey
Brenda Lee Ehmka wrote:
>
> Hello, Allisson:)
> Kinda been waiting to *meet* you as well..
Oh crumbs!
The clash of the Titans is coming.
The two most charming characters in the net are about to engage in a
dialogue, which could reach critical charm mass and cause a chain
reaction with sweetness and light exploding in all directions.
The end of Usenet as we know it.
Run for cover!
Uncle Davey
Or: too much inner beauty will be the death of us all.
Just ask Thomas Mann if you don't believe me.
Brenda Lee Ehmka
Thank you soooo much for the smiles --and the laughs. I needed that!
And Allisson *is* both charming & sweet....
you are an `artiste`
BrendaLee
Uncle Davey wrote:
> Brenda Lee Ehmka wrote:
> >
> > Hello, Allisson:)
> > Kinda been waiting to *meet* you as well..
>
> Oh crumbs!
> The clash of the Titans is coming.
> The two most charming characters in the net are about to engage in a
> dialogue, which could reach critical charm mass and cause a chain
> reaction with sweetness and light exploding in all directions.
> The end of Usenet as we know it.
> Run for cover!
>
> Uncle Davey
> Or: too much inner beauty will be the death of us all.
> Just ask Thomas Mann if you don't believe me.
--
Brenda Lee Ehmka
"Dr. Alexander Manette" wrote:
> In article <38EBFB5E...@rochester.rr.com>,
> Brenda Lee Ehmka <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Dr. Alexander Manette" wrote:
>
> > > Your tastes are certainly different than mine, since (judging from
> her
> > > pictures) I consider Ms. Ehmka to be quite physically attractive,
> and I
> > > can assure you that it doesn't have anything to do with
> "confidence". I
> > > will admit, however, that it appears as if she gets rather more sun
> > > exposure than would be wise for long-term beauty. As for your not
> > > considering her to be attractive, I honestly can't imagine that she
> is
> > > losing any sleep over it.
> >
> > Hello, Dr. Manette. I was waiting till the right moment. Tipping her
> > fedora. We get to meet at last. :) Thank you for your
> compliment.
> > And please, call me BrendaLee.
>
> Certainly, BrendaLee.
:)
> > Thanks also for your concern. I assume you are speaking of the pic in
> > Florida.
>
> In several of your pictures you strongly resemble the sort of blonde
> haired sun goddess that I (unfortunately, from a medical point of view)
> see quite a bit of around here.
Ah, okay, I can explain.. There are a few pics where I am tanned. The more
ruddy ones were the firsts with a new camera and trying to adjust settings,
etc.. I liked the pics so I kept them. Its a woman thing.. It didn't
bother me but I can see how it looks from your point of view. I mean, I
*am* the color of the railing.. One would be lying in the sun almost round
the clock for that MinWax match. Hehehe :)
> > My skin was never exposed to the sun at all until just a few
> > years ago, so I have never subjected myself to long-term sun exposure.
> I
> > live in a place that has only about 3 months of what would be termed
> *summer
> > weather*. My skin is *very soft* and I moisturize during the time
> that I am
> > exposed to the sun.
>
> That doesn't really make any difference, since the damage that high
> frequency radiation (i.e. UV light) does to skin (not to mention the
> immune system) occurs below the surface, where softness and moisturizers
> are not an issue.
Yes, I have heard that.
> I can handle the pasty white for the better part
> of the
> > year,
>
> The pasty white look is the healthy look for someone like you. Be proud
> to be pale.
Maybe so..... but ..but Doc....(stamping foot in a snit) It surely doesn't
feel as good from this end.... :)
I'm sorry, I am not making light of your concern.
Actually I appreciate it. Thank you.
> > since we are covered and jacketed anyway, but all this hard
> > work has
>
> All of the time that you don't spend lying in the sun you can spend
> exercising, or working on your Phd.
Squirming on the hot seat.. really, I was never out there that long.
> If you are going to work on
> something (as in "working on a tan"), I think that it should improve
> your physical or mental condition, not damage it.
Couldn't agree more. And both ends are covered.. For the most part I am
good.. could be better-- but doesn't good count for something?????
I enjoyed taking my music, my books,calculator, and towel and lying on my
belly on the grass listening to the creek and the birds while I did my
studying. Not for long, but it was therapeutic for me. Fresh air and
all....Stretching out....
> > led me to enjoy that few short months wearing less and just enjoying
> the
> > feel of water, and warmth, on my skin.
>
> You can enjoy those feeling just as well while wearing sunblock - pick
> something with at least SPF 15, preferably containing Parsol 1789.
Well okay, now we are talking.. I can go in the sun but have to wear a sun
block.. And I do, Dr. Manette. Of SPF 30, though I don't know offhand about
the Parsol 1789.. The exception, the one of Fla. was hard because I kept
putting it on and then running into the water washing it off. Water proof,
I know.. I know. :)
>
>
> > You are correct though. In all
> > things balance is needed.
>
> When it comes to sun exposure for faired haired people, there is no
> balance involved. The less the better.
Duly noted...
> >
> > BTW, I have enjoyed reading your pieces on health. My life is devoted
> to
> > bodily health and nutrition..
> >
> > It is my intention to earn my Ph.D in holistic nutrition and/or
> natural
> > health.
>
> Would you like some advice in this area?
Sure.. Lay it on me. Whatever you can offer would be accepted with open
arms.
At the moment I am in the process of getting a Computer Science degree.
After that I head full force into the health field. I already am when you
think about it. When you spend all your book gift certificates from x-mas
on diet/nutrition books, exercise trainer manuals, herbal and bodywork
studies it seems to me a message is being sent.
What is the name of your *area of expertise*?
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > BrendaLee
> >
> > BTW #2 .. Impressive web site.. I'm impressed.
>
> I have a web site? Well, I'm glad it's an impressive one.
Sorry, my mistake. (feeling very foolish right about now. And the face gets
red with no sun whatsoever.. :))
Were they web pages then? I went to the URL that either Allisson or Clarice
put up. I had just got here so I am not sure which one posted it and I
cannot find it now...
And then again.....Perhaps it was all a dream....
Nice talking with you,
Any information you can share on the subject will be greatly appreciated.
BrendaLee
--
Brenda Lee
Lady DreamCatcher and Wordsmith
Robin King
>
>> I
> > > > will admit, however, that it appears as if she gets rather more sun
> > > > exposure than would be wise for long-term beauty.
Hey, does that mean I can lie out in the sun for a little while?
Just for health and beauty purposes of course. I promise not to tan.
Robin
Dr. Alexander Manette
Brenda Lee Ehmka <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Dr. Alexander Manette" wrote:
>
> > In article <38EBFB5E...@rochester.rr.com>,
> > Brenda Lee Ehmka <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I can handle the pasty white for the better part
> > of the
> > > year,
> >
> > The pasty white look is the healthy look for someone like you. Be
proud
> > to be pale.
>
> Maybe so..... but ..but Doc....(stamping foot in a snit) It surely
doesn't
> feel as good from this end.... :)
> I'm sorry, I am not making light of your concern.
> Actually I appreciate it. Thank you.
Look, I think that the tanned blonde look is extremely attractive on a
woman (at least a young woman) as well, but the indisputable fact is
that it is a health hazard. You seem to be very concerned about health,
to the point where you are willing to spend considerable time improving
yours, and it just doesn't make sense for you to also be spending time
in an activity that hurts your health.
> > All of the time that you don't spend lying in the sun you can spend
> > exercising, or working on your Phd.
>
> Squirming on the hot seat.. really, I was never out there that long.
Let's try to make it even less time in the future, shall we?
>
> > If you are going to work on
> > something (as in "working on a tan"), I think that it should improve
> > your physical or mental condition, not damage it.
>
> Couldn't agree more. And both ends are covered.. For the most part I
am
> good.. could be better-- but doesn't good count for something?????
You see, it's not really all that hard to avoid the sun, particularly
when you live in upstate New York. You just have to stop seeking it
out, and that is really not too much to ask.
> I enjoyed taking my music, my books,calculator, and towel and lying
on my
> belly on the grass listening to the creek and the birds while I did my
> studying. Not for long, but it was therapeutic for me. Fresh air and
> all....Stretching out....
You can still do that if you want; just wear long clothing and
suncreen.
> > You can enjoy those feeling just as well while wearing sunblock -
pick
> > something with at least SPF 15, preferably containing Parsol 1789.
>
> Well okay, now we are talking.. I can go in the sun but have to wear
a sun
> block.. And I do, Dr. Manette. Of SPF 30, though I don't know offhand
about
> the Parsol 1789.. The exception, the one of Fla. was hard because I
kept
> putting it on and then running into the water washing it off. Water
proof,
> I know.. I know. :)
May I reccomend an excellent product from Neutragena. SPF 45,
containing Parsol 1789, hypoallergenic (and all of that other Neutragena
stuff), and supposedly waterproof, sweatproof and rubproof (of course it
isn't totally, but it's as close as you can get). It claims to be one
application, all-day protection, and providing that you don't push
things too far it probably is.
> > > It is my intention to earn my Ph.D in holistic nutrition and/or
> > natural
> > > health.
> >
> > Would you like some advice in this area?
>
> Sure.. Lay it on me. Whatever you can offer would be accepted with
open
> arms.
If you're interested in doing reasearch in natural or alternative
health, I would recommend a Phd in clinical pharmacology or even
nutrition instead. You'll get a much better background in the
scientific methods you will need to properly evaluate alternative
medicine, and your results will be much more respected. If you are
interested in being a practicioner, there's not point in getting a Phd,
since there aren't really any standards of practice in this field and
therefore you don't really need it.
>
> At the moment I am in the process of getting a Computer Science
degree.
> After that I head full force into the health field. I already am when
you
> think about it. When you spend all your book gift certificates from
x-mas
> on diet/nutrition books, exercise trainer manuals, herbal and
bodywork
> studies it seems to me a message is being sent.
>
> What is the name of your *area of expertise*?
Internal medicine.
> > > BTW #2 .. Impressive web site.. I'm impressed.
> >
> > I have a web site? Well, I'm glad it's an impressive one.
>
> Sorry, my mistake. (feeling very foolish right about now. And the face
gets
> red with no sun whatsoever.. :))
>
> Were they web pages then? I went to the URL that either Allisson or
Clarice
> put up. I had just got here so I am not sure which one posted it and
I
> cannot find it now...
I certainly don't have a website that I am aware of; how anyone could
possible mistake either Ms. Roome or Ms. Starling for me, I don't know.
>
> And then again.....Perhaps it was all a dream....
>
> Nice talking with you,
> Any information you can share on the subject will be greatly
appreciated.
My pleasure, really.
>
> BrendaLee
>
> --
>
> Brenda Lee
> Lady DreamCatcher and Wordsmith
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will, sooner or
later,
> have to find time for illness.
>
> ---Edward Stanley, Earl of Derby, 1873
>
>
enialle
>On 06 Apr 2000 19:22:28 EDT, Clarice <Cla...@quanti.com> wrote:
>
>>Whereas BrendaLee is stunningly beautiful.
>>Thus her very existence makes her a natural enemy of the fat acceptance cultthink
>>propagators.
>>In other words, I hope she stays.
>
>Your are kidding...she looks worn out to me. I wonder if she smokes?
it's all the UVA rays
He/She who laughs last thinks slowest
CSK
>
> enialle wrote:
>
> > some people when coated by compliments, fawned over with lots of ego strokes and
> > massage their sexual desirablity (female or males, tis no matter) apparenatly
> > throw away their sense of their own beliefs, i fear... for brenda, it meant
> > she is here lecturing others in a support group not about acceptance
> > (which is, after all the point of this newsgroup as cited in the faq), but
> > rather she going on about dieting and exercise as a resident guru all chocked
> > full of platitudes.. the droning incesssantly on that I am sure the regulars
> > here have heard all before.. "I did it and so can you!" "Gee my life was so
> > sucky and look at me, and if I can overcome these obstacles too!"(insert more
> > dreary plaitudes, ) it was something I beleive over the years brenda prided
> > herself in; that she can be a person ready to give support. Lecturing is not
> > support. It is the antithesis for the genesis of this ng.
>
> Yes, morbid obesity is ugly and spreading lies about the hideous consequences of
> morbid obesity is utterly repulsive.
>
well enialle and brenda are way cuter than you are.
> Thus her very existence makes her a natural enemy of the fat acceptance cultthink
> propagators.
so what's your excuse?
> In other words, I hope she stays.
>
> > Brenda is nothing more than another finger-pointer, and cajalor about the
> > merits of dieting and exercise.
>
> Are you a fat acceptor?
yep.
> > You dont think these people have heard the same
> > shit before? I think yelling louder and in quanity with all of your henchmen
> > is dispictable and nasty and mean-spirited. She has become one of your
> > convenient henchmen.
> >
> > I know you pride your self on attacking people who believe in fat acceptance
> > Jackie, but brenda sheds her skin for following suit.
>
> I was a dedicated fat rejector long before Jackie ever made his debut on ssfa in
> '97. Based on the pictures of Brenda's trim and toned body, I'm pretty sure she's
> been a long-time fat rejector, too, not, as you imply, a recent Jackie-convert.
>
> Fat rejectance is, after all, the smart and healthy move, aka reality acceptance.
get a life.
> Many millions of people have figgered this out who have never once in their lives
> heard of Jackie T. Tokeman or the fat acceptance cult.
>
> C.
crash street kidd
Clarice
Rauni wrote:
> On 06 Apr 2000 19:22:28 EDT, Clarice <Cla...@quanti.com> wrote:
>
> >Whereas BrendaLee is stunningly beautiful.
> >Thus her very existence makes her a natural enemy of the fat acceptance cultthink
> >propagators.
> >In other words, I hope she stays.
>
> Your are kidding...she looks worn out to me.
No, I am 100% sincere.
I also believe that the vast majority of men with healthy, functioning sex drive would
agree with me.
If you post a current picture of yourself and ask a representative sample of usenet
men whose picture they find more attractive, which way do you think the vote would go?
In your favor or Brenda's?
> I wonder if she smokes?
Unsubstantiated speculation does not constitute an effective attack, much less
victory.
C.
--
"...too bad her hobbies don't include 'getting
fucked up the ass' - that way, she'd never be
alone on a Saturday night..."
-- HATE #26
enialle
>
>
>Rauni wrote:
>
>> On 06 Apr 2000 19:22:28 EDT, Clarice <Cla...@quanti.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Whereas BrendaLee is stunningly beautiful.
>> >Thus her very existence makes her a natural enemy of the fat acceptance cultthink
>> >propagators.
>> >In other words, I hope she stays.
>>
>> Your are kidding...she looks worn out to me.
>
>No, I am 100% sincere.
>I also believe that the vast majority of men with healthy, functioning sex drive would
>agree with me.
>
>If you post a current picture of yourself and ask a representative sample of usenet
>men whose picture they find more attractive, which way do you think the vote would go?
>In your favor or Brenda's?
why- do you think brenda looks better than you?
Brenda Lee Ehmka
No problem. I will most definitely try and locate a (the)source of reference for
you.
It is a well known fact in health stores, etc.
Actually I found this out by accident. When I first started really getting into
working out I was sweating profusely. I didn't like that so I started using store
bought deordorant about 12 times a day. Well after about 3 months of this my eyes
got cloudy, and I felt sick. I went to an alternative health store and after much
questioning about my life it came up about the deodorant use. I was put on a herbal
program and instructed to stop using that deodorant because of the aluminum content.
About 3 weeks later my eyes became clear again and I felt back to my old self.
Ever since then I only use natural products..
BrendaLee:)
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> > Another factor that is being examined in the male breast cancer dilemma is the
> > use of aluminum, etc. in deodorants. I get my deodorant from a health food
> > store. It is natural.. Our skin is very porous and so whatever we put on will
> > seep in.
>
> I am not putting you on the spot, but can you provide a reference link for
> this? No biggee if you can't. I am just curious. I try not to drink from
> aluminum cans because of a possible link between Alzheimers and aluminum.
> Besides, beer tastes better in the bottle or on tap. <<VBG>>
>
> >
> > BrendaLee
> > Brenda Lee
> > Lady DreamCatcher and RFA Wordsmith
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/
>
> This pic is my favorite. http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/wallpose.jpg
>
> WOW-ZERS!!!!!!!!!! It's nice to see that a *righteous* babe is posting
> here. You should check out the SSFA-M Rogues Gallery post to see what the
> fat acceptors look like.
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Brenda Lee
Lady DreamCatcher and RFA Wordsmith
Brenda Lee Ehmka
"Dr. Alexander Manette" wrote:
> In article <38ED72CC...@rochester.rr.com>,
> Brenda Lee Ehmka <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Dr. Alexander Manette" wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38EBFB5E...@rochester.rr.com>,
> > > Brenda Lee Ehmka <eh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> >
>
> > > I can handle the pasty white for the better part
> > > of the
> > > > year,
> > >
> > > The pasty white look is the healthy look for someone like you. Be
> proud
> > > to be pale.
> >
> > Maybe so..... but ..but Doc....(stamping foot in a snit) It surely
> doesn't
> > feel as good from this end.... :)
> > I'm sorry, I am not making light of your concern.
> > Actually I appreciate it. Thank you.
>
> Look, I think that the tanned blonde look is extremely attractive on a
> woman (at least a young woman) as well, but the indisputable fact is
> that it is a health hazard.
I don't know why but visually at least, I do think it *looks* healthier. I
know, looks are deceiving..
********Mindset adjustment in progress**********
Living where I do it is not like I see that in my everyday life..as would
someone living in Florida or CA, for example.
> You seem to be very concerned about health,
Indeed :) <insert glow>
>
> to the point where you are willing to spend considerable time improving
> yours,
I am and I do..
> and it just doesn't make sense for you to also be spending time
> in an activity that hurts your health.
I am all about making improvements and honing my knowledge base of health..
> > > All of the time that you don't spend lying in the sun you can spend
> > > exercising, or working on your Phd.
Point taken.
> >
> > Squirming on the hot seat.. really, I was never out there that long.
>
> Let's try to make it even less time in the future, shall we?
I believe we create our own reality. Which means there are no accidents.
Which means that the very fact we had this conversation in the first place
was a message of sorts to me that I take notice of my time spent outdoors.
So, thank you for mirroring back to me something I obviously, if not
subconsciously, did not want to see from my own reflection.
> >
> > > If you are going to work on
> > > something (as in "working on a tan"), I think that it should improve
> > > your physical or mental condition, not damage it.
> >
> > Couldn't agree more. And both ends are covered.. For the most part I
> am
> > good.. could be better-- but doesn't good count for something?????
>
> You see, it's not really all that hard to avoid the sun, particularly
> when you live in upstate New York. You just have to stop seeking it
> out, and that is really not too much to ask.
Okay. Its a deal *Doc*. I will make a concerted effort to move about
in-between the rays. <Smile>
> > I enjoyed taking my music, my books,calculator, and towel and lying
> on my
> > belly on the grass listening to the creek and the birds while I did my
> > studying. Not for long, but it was therapeutic for me. Fresh air and
> > all....Stretching out....
>
> You can still do that if you want; just wear long clothing and
> suncreen.
I will do the sunscreen and I *can* lay in the shade too. There are plenty
of trees about.
And I still get the air and the sound effects.
> > > You can enjoy those feeling just as well while wearing sunblock -
> pick
> > > something with at least SPF 15, preferably containing Parsol 1789.
> >
> > Well okay, now we are talking.. I can go in the sun but have to wear
> a sun
> > block.. And I do, Dr. Manette. Of SPF 30, though I don't know offhand
> about
> > the Parsol 1789.. The exception, the one of Fla. was hard because I
> kept
> > putting it on and then running into the water washing it off. Water
> proof,
> > I know.. I know. :)
>
> May I reccomend an excellent product from Neutragena. SPF 45,
> containing Parsol 1789, hypoallergenic (and all of that other Neutragena
> stuff), and supposedly waterproof, sweatproof and rubproof (of course it
> isn't totally, but it's as close as you can get). It claims to be one
> application, all-day protection, and providing that you don't push
> things too far it probably is.
You most certainly may.. And may I say I like your *bedside manner*.
I have written it down and I agree that a product *waterproof*,
*sweatproof*, and *rubproof* would be best for me.
As far as the last sentence there? Isn't life itself all about pushing
things..... in one form or another?
>
>
> > > > It is my intention to earn my Ph.D in holistic nutrition and/or
> > > natural
> > > > health.
> > >
> > > Would you like some advice in this area?
> >
> > Sure.. Lay it on me. Whatever you can offer would be accepted with
> open
> > arms.
>
> If you're interested in doing reasearch in natural or alternative
> health, I would recommend a Phd in clinical pharmacology or even
> nutrition instead. You'll get a much better background in the
> scientific methods you will need to properly evaluate alternative
> medicine, and your results will be much more respected. If you are
> interested in being a practicioner, there's not point in getting a Phd,
> since there aren't really any standards of practice in this field and
> therefore you don't really need it.
Okay, from what you have just said I would prefer the nutrition avenue. I
am not interested in drugs as much as the effects of herbs and alternative
methods and their ability to heal, rejuvenate, and work *with* the body. And
add to that the interest in the body itself and that seems more in alignment
with what I am looking for.
My love for this field is such that a piece of paper will have little
bearing on either my usage or my love of the subject. I seek it out.
Funny, upon further thought the actual PhD would be more for my own
satisfaction. Knowledge always speaks for itself.
> >
> > At the moment I am in the process of getting a Computer Science
> degree.
> > After that I head full force into the health field. I already am when
> you
> > think about it. When you spend all your book gift certificates from
> x-mas
> > on diet/nutrition books, exercise trainer manuals, herbal and
> bodywork
> > studies it seems to me a message is being sent.
> >
> > What is the name of your *area of expertise*?
>
> Internal medicine.
Hmmm, For some reason I didn't expect that, but great.
>
>
>
> > Nice talking with you,
> > Any information you can share on the subject will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> My pleasure, really.
Thanks again for the advice in both areas.
BrendaLee
question- if you don't mind..
Did you know that internal medicine was the area you were interested in from
the beginning, or did you find yourself angling in that direction as you
progessed?
~~~~~~~~~
> > Brenda Lee
> > Lady DreamCatcher and Wordsmith
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will, sooner or
> later,
> > have to find time for illness.
> >
> > ---Edward Stanley, Earl of Derby, 1873
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Brenda Lee
Lady DreamCatcher and RFA Wordsmith
Lurker Above
> Clarice flabbergasted:
> > enialle explained:
miss something in our developmental years, did we? adolescent
> > Whereas BrendaLee is stunningly beautiful.
still rigidly focused on physical beauty as a free ticket to rag on others,
eh? i don't think i will stoop so low as to bring up columbine high...oh
damn, guess i just did
> well enialle and brenda are way cuter than you are.
and since enialle is way cuter than brenda, i guess that puts you out of
the running, eh clarice? no wonder you're so bitter toward enialle, the
snow white complex
> > Thus her very existence makes her a natural enemy of the fat acceptance
cultthink
> > propagators.
>
> so what's your excuse?
riding on brenda's coattails...or a brenda wannabe without the looks or
charm?
> > In other words, I hope she stays.
the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
> > > Brenda is nothing more than another finger-pointer, and cajalor
about the
> > > merits of dieting and exercise.
> >
> > Are you a fat acceptor?
>
> yep.
i too oppose prejudice against and abuse of obese human beings
> > > You dont think these people have heard the same
> > > shit before? I think yelling louder and in quanity with all of your
henchmen
> > > is dispictable and nasty and mean-spirited. She has become one of
your
> > > convenient henchmen.
> > >
> > > I know you pride your self on attacking people who believe in fat
acceptance
> > > Jackie, but brenda sheds her skin for following suit.
> >
> > I was a dedicated fat rejector long before Jackie ever made his debut
on ssfa in
> > '97. Based on the pictures of Brenda's trim and toned body, I'm pretty
sure she's
> > been a long-time fat rejector, too, not, as you imply, a recent
Jackie-convert.
> >
> > Fat rejectance is, after all, the smart and healthy move, aka reality
acceptance.
>
> get a life.
for someone who is claiming to be smart and healthy, clarice, you seem to
be missing the entire concept behind the term fat acceptance. fat
rejectance is pro-bigotry against fat people, not the stating of fat being
unhealthy for you. hence, you're a bigot in the same vein as some of our
racist brethren on soc.singles. don't delude yourself into thinking you're
doing humanity a service by being just another fucking bigot
> > Many millions of people have figgered this out who have never once in
their lives
> > heard of Jackie T. Tokeman or the fat acceptance cult.
ah...now i see why fat rejectors are so bitter toward fat acceptors...they
have fat heads, therefore they hate themselves, and are merely projecting
you're just a self-licking ice cream cone, aren't you clarice? wonderful
Lurker Above
> Clarice blared:
> > Rauni scoffed:
> >> Clarice honked:
> >>
> >> >Whereas BrendaLee is stunningly beautiful.
acceptance cultthink
> >> >propagators.
> >>
> >
> >No, I am 100% sincere.
> >I also believe that the vast majority of men with healthy, functioning
sex drive would
> >agree with me.
> >
> >If you post a current picture of yourself and ask a representative
sample of usenet
> >men whose picture they find more attractive, which way do you think the
vote would go?
> >In your favor or Brenda's?
>
> why- do you think brenda looks better than you?
no fair, enialle, i've seen both your and brenda's pics...and brenda's
camaro-like looks don't compare favorably to your ferrari 550 looks
speaking of ferraris...they not only look great, but boy do they sound
sweeeeeeeet
double-overhead cam v-12, baybee
Nubianne Kthulah Black
> no fair, enialle, i've seen both your and brenda's pics...and brenda's
> camaro-like looks don't compare favorably to your ferrari 550 looks
>
> speaking of ferraris...they not only look great, but boy do they sound
> sweeeeeeeet
>
> double-overhead cam v-12, baybee
Hey, what about my '70's Hearse looks?
:: 'vira wink::
--
W.INKBlack
Anonymous
>i too oppose prejudice against and abuse of obese human beings
what do you think of prejudice against and abuse of lying human beings?
Anonymous
>no fair, enialle, i've seen both your and brenda's pics...and brenda's
>camaro-like looks don't compare favorably to your ferrari 550 looks
can't they both win?
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
my parents drove it up from the bahamas...
enialle
>
>eh? i don't think i will stoop so low as to bring up columbine high...oh
>damn, guess i just did
>
>> well enialle and brenda are way cuter than you are.
>
>and since enialle is way cuter than brenda, i guess that puts you out of
>the running, eh clarice? no wonder you're so bitter toward enialle, the
>snow white complex
ya know lurker, you are a sweetie, having enjoyed some nice evenings at my
performance poetry digs and at teh fair yesterday, I say you being kind. Yeah
yeah, it's your opinion and all, brenda is beautiful, so is clarice I suspect
lots of regulars here. But it matters not if I am thin, ugly. beautiful or fat.
Its the message of acceptance that matters. The message, not the messenger.
>
>> > Thus her very existence makes her a natural enemy of the fat acceptance
>cultthink
>> > propagators.
>>
>> so what's your excuse?
>
>riding on brenda's coattails...or a brenda wannabe without the looks or
>charm?
I dont get why clarice and jackie finds such joy in attacking people repeatedly
with the same message. It self evident it's beyond the message and more for
petty perverted pleasure. Which means perhaps they maybe have their own body
image problems if fat people affect them so much. If it has to do with sexual
desirablity then clarice should be concerned that if they follow her advice and
become svelt little things her competition goes up..
>
>> > In other words, I hope she stays.
>
>the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
Jackie does it make you happy if people copy your style of abuse against fat
people?
>
>> > > Brenda is nothing more than another finger-pointer, and cajalor
>about the
>> > > merits of dieting and exercise.
>> >
>> > Are you a fat acceptor?
>>
>> yep.
>
>i too oppose prejudice against and abuse of obese human beings
prejudice is ignorance...
>
>> > > You dont think these people have heard the same
>> > > shit before? I think yelling louder and in quanity with all of your
>henchmen
>> > > is dispictable and nasty and mean-spirited. She has become one of
>your
>> > > convenient henchmen.
>> > >
>> > > I know you pride your self on attacking people who believe in fat
>acceptance
>> > > Jackie, but brenda sheds her skin for following suit.
>> >
>> > I was a dedicated fat rejector long before Jackie ever made his debut
>on ssfa in
>> > '97. Based on the pictures of Brenda's trim and toned body, I'm pretty
>sure she's
>> > been a long-time fat rejector, too, not, as you imply, a recent
>Jackie-convert.
>> >
>> > Fat rejectance is, after all, the smart and healthy move, aka reality
>acceptance.
>>
>> get a life.
>
>for someone who is claiming to be smart and healthy, clarice, you seem to
>be missing the entire concept behind the term fat acceptance. fat
>rejectance is pro-bigotry against fat people, not the stating of fat being
>unhealthy for you. hence, you're a bigot in the same vein as some of our
>racist brethren on soc.singles. don't delude yourself into thinking you're
>doing humanity a service by being just another fucking bigot
touche'
>
>> > Many millions of people have figgered this out who have never once in
>their lives
>> > heard of Jackie T. Tokeman or the fat acceptance cult.
>
>ah...now i see why fat rejectors are so bitter toward fat acceptors...they
>have fat heads, therefore they hate themselves, and are merely projecting
>
>you're just a self-licking ice cream cone, aren't you clarice? wonderful
>
I wonder what flavor?
"Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it
didn't work for the rabbit."
- R.E. Shay
enialle
>
>enialle cooed:
>> Clarice blared:
>> > Rauni scoffed:
>> >> Clarice honked:
>> >>
>acceptance cultthink
>> >> >propagators.
>> >>
>> >
>> >No, I am 100% sincere.
>> >I also believe that the vast majority of men with healthy, functioning
>sex drive would
>> >agree with me.
>> >
>> >If you post a current picture of yourself and ask a representative
>sample of usenet
>> >men whose picture they find more attractive, which way do you think the
>vote would go?
>> >In your favor or Brenda's?
>>
>> why- do you think brenda looks better than you?
>
>camaro-like looks don't compare favorably to your ferrari 550 looks
>
>sweeeeeeeet
>
>double-overhead cam v-12, baybee
ah shucks, lurker, you're just saying that cuz you my daughter and her crazy
friend huged you. I noticed their suck-up routine worked..I forgot to mention
they aced how to suck up to guys to get them to buy them stuff. You big sucker
:)
Dr. Alexander Manette
mapl...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> > "Dr. Alexander Manette" wrote:
> >
> >> I
> > > > > will admit, however, that it appears as if she gets rather
more sun
> > > > > exposure than would be wise for long-term beauty.
>
> Just for health and beauty purposes of course. I promise not to
tan.
Well, that depends. What is your eye color, hair color, general skin
tone and ethnic background?
>
> Robin
Dr. Alexander Manette
> > Look, I think that the tanned blonde look is extremely attractive on
a
> > woman (at least a young woman) as well, but the indisputable fact is
> > that it is a health hazard.
>
> I don't know why but visually at least, I do think it *looks*
healthier. I
> know, looks are deceiving..
It looks healthier because we associate skin of a uniform color with
health, and a tan hides all of the variation in pigmentation that is
normally visable in fair-skined people. However, just a spraying
yourself with gold paint in order to achieve this effect would not be
healthy, neither is tanning.
>
> ********Mindset adjustment in progress**********
>
> I believe we create our own reality. Which means there are no
accidents.
> Which means that the very fact we had this conversation in the first
place
> was a message of sorts to me that I take notice of my time spent
outdoors.
>
> So, thank you for mirroring back to me something I obviously, if not
> subconsciously, did not want to see from my own reflection.
You're quite wellcome.
> > You see, it's not really all that hard to avoid the sun,
particularly
> > when you live in upstate New York. You just have to stop seeking it
> > out, and that is really not too much to ask.
>
> Okay. Its a deal *Doc*. I will make a concerted effort to move about
> in-between the rays. <Smile>
Good job. I wish that all of my patients were so reasonable.
>
> > You can still do that if you want; just wear long clothing and
> > suncreen.
>
> I will do the sunscreen and I *can* lay in the shade too. There are
plenty
> of trees about.
> And I still get the air and the sound effects.
The shade is much more comfortable on a hot day, anyway. Certainly
lying in the shade near a babbling brook on a warm day as a sweet young
thing whispers softly in my ear is my idea of summertime bliss.
> > May I reccomend an excellent product from Neutragena. SPF 45,
> > containing Parsol 1789, hypoallergenic (and all of that other
Neutragena
> > stuff), and supposedly waterproof, sweatproof and rubproof (of
course it
> > isn't totally, but it's as close as you can get). It claims to be
one
> > application, all-day protection, and providing that you don't push
> > things too far it probably is.
>
> You most certainly may.. And may I say I like your *bedside manner*.
You're not the only one.
>
> I have written it down and I agree that a product *waterproof*,
> *sweatproof*, and *rubproof* would be best for me.
>
> As far as the last sentence there? Isn't life itself all about
pushing
> things..... in one form or another?
Perhaps, but pushing the limits of your sunscreen (like pushing the
limits of your car's brakes) is not a wise move. I discovered this when
I assumed that the very Neutragena product I have reccommened to you
would not be rubbed off by my scuba mask (I thought that "rubproof" and
"all day protection" really meant rubproof and all day protection). I
had a very unusually shaped sunburn on my face.
> > If you're interested in doing reasearch in natural or alternative
> > health, I would recommend a Phd in clinical pharmacology or even
> > nutrition instead. You'll get a much better background in the
> > scientific methods you will need to properly evaluate alternative
> > medicine, and your results will be much more respected. If you are
> > interested in being a practicioner, there's not point in getting a
Phd,
> > since there aren't really any standards of practice in this field
and
> > therefore you don't really need it.
>
> Okay, from what you have just said I would prefer the nutrition
avenue. I
> am not interested in drugs as much as the effects of herbs and
alternative
> methods and their ability to heal, rejuvenate, and work *with* the
body.
There really isn't any difference in kind between herbal treatments and
standard drug therapies. They both use various compounds to influence
the bodies biochemistry. The only difference is that in once case a
plant makes the compound and in the other case a laboratory does.
Therefore, the same methods that are usefull for evaluating the safety
and efficacy of drugs are also usefull for herbal treatments.
> And add to that the interest in the body itself and that seems more in
alignment
> with what I am looking for.
You might want to consider clinical exercise physiology. There aren't
many clinical exercise physiologists arround, but I think that the
demand for them will increase substansially in the future. I am
currently working on writing a grant for evaluating an intensive,
multi-factorial behavioral intervention for obesity, and one of the
problems we are having is finding enough clinical exercise physiologists
to work on it.
>
> My love for this field is such that a piece of paper will have little
> bearing on either my usage or my love of the subject. I seek it out.
> Funny, upon further thought the actual PhD would be more for my own
> satisfaction. Knowledge always speaks for itself.
Right, but it still is important to choose the best type of knowledge to
pursue. The primary thing you learn in the course of getting a Phd is
how to do independent research.
>
> > Internal medicine.
>
> Hmmm, For some reason I didn't expect that, but great.
What did you expect.
> question- if you don't mind..
>
> Did you know that internal medicine was the area you were interested
in from
> the beginning, or did you find yourself angling in that direction as
you
> progessed?
I seriously considered surgery for quite awhile, since the craft
aspect of it appeals to me and I have always been good at tying
knots. However, I came to the conclusion that there are far to many
surgeons running arround now as it is; most of the real action, in both
clinical research and in effecting people's health, in the next few
decades is going to be in primary care. Also, I think that the
mindless, cut-em-up cowboy perspective of many surgeons would start to
wear on me eventually. In medicine, you may not necessarily do a lot,
but at least you do think about it considerabley beforehand.
Anonymous
>loser above:
>>the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
>
>Jackie does it make you happy if people copy your style of abuse against fat
>people?
well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
however brenda is not imitating my style so any flattery will have to
applied directly.
>>i too oppose prejudice against and abuse of obese human beings
>
>prejudice is ignorance...
what about judgement?
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
enialle
>
>enialle wrote:
>>loser above:
>>>the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
>>
>>Jackie does it make you happy if people copy your style of abuse against fat
>>people?
>
>well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>however brenda is not imitating my style so any flattery will have to
>applied directly.
>
you didnt answer my question.
enialle
>
>enialle wrote:
>>loser above:
>>>the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
>>
>>Jackie does it make you happy if people copy your style of abuse against fat
>>people?
>
>well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>however brenda is not imitating my style so any flattery will have to
>applied directly.
>
>>
>>prejudice is ignorance...
>
>what about judgement?
>
"We cannot change anything until we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate,
it oppresses."
-C. G. Jung, Psychological Reflections
Anonymous
>In article <5fa33341806eebbd...@anon.xg.nu>, Anonymous says...
>>
>>enialle wrote:
>>>loser above:
>>>>the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
>>>
>>>Jackie does it make you happy if people copy your style of abuse
against fat
>>>people?
>>
>>well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>>however brenda is not imitating my style so any flattery will have to
>>applied directly.
>>
>
i felt it was more important to address your implication that brenda is
imitating my style and abusing fat people. said implication which is
completely erroneous.
but in answer to your query:
yes.
Anonymous
>In article <5fa33341806eebbd...@anon.xg.nu>, Anonymous says...
>>
>>enialle wrote:
>>>loser above:
>>>>the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
>>>
>>>Jackie does it make you happy if people copy your style of abuse
against fat
>>>people?
>>
>>well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>>however brenda is not imitating my style so any flattery will have to
>>applied directly.
>>
>>>
>>>prejudice is ignorance...
>>
>>what about judgement?
>>
>
>"We cannot change anything until we accept it. Condemnation does not
liberate,
>it oppresses."
>-C. G. Jung, Psychological Reflections
should murderers be punished?
enialle
>
>enialle wrote:
>>In article <5fa33341806eebbd...@anon.xg.nu>, Anonymous says...
>>>
>>>enialle wrote:
>>>>loser above:
>>>>>the longer she stays, the more of a liability she becomes for jackie
>>>>
>>>>Jackie does it make you happy if people copy your style of abuse
>against fat
>>>>people?
>>>
>>>well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>>>however brenda is not imitating my style so any flattery will have to
>>>applied directly.
>>>
>>
>
>i felt it was more important to address your implication that brenda is
>imitating my style and abusing fat people.
message id?
let me restate: what bothers me is that this newsgroup is about supporting a fat
person rights in society.
said implication which is
>completely erroneous.
see above.
>but in answer to your query:
>yes.
and that speaks volumns
Lurker Above
> enialle sez:
> > Brenda Lee Ehmka sez:
> >
> > >Hehehe. *Okay* we'll let ya slide about this squirrel thingy..
> > >
> > >But hey now, I resent the likeness to a *thawed raw chicken*
> > >
> > > .... I've got better thighs and better
> > >breasts
forward to alt.kfc.finger.licking.good
or
it's always about food with you people
> > geez.. she is a sycophants of the first order
> >
> > not an admirable trait no matter how good you look..
the truth is...well...not as beautiful
> Telling the truth isn't sycophantry.
agreed
> I've seen Brenda's pictures. She's right about her thighs and breasts.
i have too
she looks extra crispy
now enialle...that's juicy and tender
infinitely feminine, and quite muscular
but not in an equine way