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John Jones

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Dec 11, 2009, 5:46:47 PM12/11/09
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If problems drive us to distraction we can listen to our dreams, or we
can go to the doctor for support:

THE DOCTOR'S SUPPORT
In exchange for his help the doctor expects you to renounce your
problems, your feelings, and your dreams. You are familiar with this
tradition and you will gladly concur, while avoiding his eye. He will
then hand you a contract, a black sheet of paper that he tears from a
book of spells and on that paper the name of your soul, or the name of a
loved one, is written in its own red blood. This contract authorises the
Doctor's apothecary to release a potion from the vaults. The apothecary
will warn you not to break the spell by refusing the potion. The potion
ensures that the soul's life-blood remains shrouded in unknowing, while
its owner enjoys the pleasures of the marionette.

haiku jones

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Dec 11, 2009, 5:53:04 PM12/11/09
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With Cialis, it's not the "potion" which clouds your mind.

Trust me on this one.


Haiku Jones

Enkidu

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Dec 11, 2009, 7:20:14 PM12/11/09
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John Jones wrote:

> In exchange for his help the doctor expects you to renounce your
> problems, your feelings, and your dreams

No, he expects me to tell him my symptoms and anything I've tried
myself that might have helped. He listens as I discuss how my symptoms
match up with possible conditions I've researched. The we discuss which
of those possible conditions to exclude and why, and what other possible
conditios I may be ignorant of. Then we discuss possible courses of
treatment, and tests that might help narrow down possible causes to
likely causes.

Right now, it looks like I have a bad case of sciatica. We've decided do
an MRI to confirm this diagnosis and help decide on a course of
treatment. In the mean time, we've decided on some medications which
make the pain tolerable.

You are a complete idiot.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk."
-- Tom Waits

bigfl...@gmail.com

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Dec 11, 2009, 10:15:04 PM12/11/09
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On Dec 12, 8:20 am, Enkidu <enk...@nogodhere.net> wrote:
> John Jones wrote:
> > In exchange for his help the doctor expects you to renounce your
> > problems, your feelings, and your dreams
>
> No, he expects me to tell him my symptoms and anything I've tried
> myself that might have helped. He listens as I discuss how my symptoms
> match up with possible conditions I've researched. The we discuss which
> of those possible conditions to exclude and why, and what other possible
> conditios I may be ignorant of. Then we discuss possible courses of
> treatment, and tests that might help narrow down possible causes to
> likely causes.
>
> Right now, it looks like I have a bad case of sciatica. We've decided do
> an MRI to confirm this diagnosis and help decide on a course of
> treatment. In the mean time, we've decided on some medications which
> make the pain tolerable.

That could be the equivalent of a talk with your priest.

BOfL


>
> You are a complete idiot.

JJ is getting there, but is far from complete :-)

Now about your self induced condition! Ready for the truth? - which
paradoxically
also contains the solution. In fact thats why we self sabotage in the
first place!

BOfL

Enkidu

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:01:23 AM12/12/09
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bigfl...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Dec 12, 8:20�am, Enkidu <enk...@nogodhere.net> wrote:
>> John Jones wrote:
>> > In exchange for his help the doctor expects you to renounce your
>> > problems, your feelings, and your dreams
>>
>> No, he expects me to tell him my symptoms and anything I've tried
>> myself that might have helped. He listens as I discuss how my symptoms
>> match up with possible conditions I've researched. The we discuss which
>> of those possible conditions to exclude and why, and what other possible
>> conditios I may be ignorant of. Then we discuss possible courses of
>> treatment, and tests that might help narrow down possible causes to
>> likely causes.
>>
>> Right now, it looks like I have a bad case of sciatica. We've decided do
>> an MRI to confirm this diagnosis and help decide on a course of
>> treatment. In the mean time, we've decided on some medications which
>> make the pain tolerable.
>
> That could be the equivalent of a talk with your priest.

Double blind tests have shown both Valium and Oxycodone to have
pain-relieving effects. Similar studies with priests have not been done,
but I expect the only notible finding would be an increased incidence of
hemeroids as a side effect.

> BOfL
>>
>> You are a complete idiot.
>
> JJ is getting there, but is far from complete :-)
>
> Now about your self induced condition! Ready for the truth? - which
> paradoxically
> also contains the solution. In fact thats why we self sabotage in the
> first place!

We'll see . . . if an MRI shows a blown disk, well, so much for a
"self-induced condition."

--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people"
- Jesse Ventura

ZerkonXXXX

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Dec 12, 2009, 8:10:02 AM12/12/09
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:46:47 +0000, John Jones wrote:

> In exchange for his help the doctor expects you to renounce your
> problems, your feelings, and your dreams

First: Is there harm?

John Jones

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Dec 12, 2009, 7:27:52 PM12/12/09
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Enkidu wrote:
> John Jones wrote:
>
>> In exchange for his help the doctor expects you to renounce your
>> problems, your feelings, and your dreams
>
> No, he expects me to tell him my symptoms

By calling your dreams, emotions, and problems "symptoms" you have
already signed the contract that voids them.


> and anything I've tried
> myself that might have helped. He listens as I discuss how my symptoms
> match up with possible conditions I've researched.

Symptoms again. You have sold out to get attention from the doc.

> The we discuss which
> of those possible conditions to exclude and why, and what other possible
> conditios I may be ignorant of. Then we discuss possible courses of
> treatment, and tests that might help narrow down possible causes to
> likely causes.
>
> Right now, it looks like I have a bad case of sciatica.

Bloody crikey. ARe you paying attention>? I was talking about EMOTIONS
not some bloody scratch.

We've decided do
> an MRI to confirm this diagnosis and help decide on a course of
> treatment. In the mean time, we've decided on some medications which
> make the pain tolerable.
>
> You are a complete idiot.

Yeh bye.

John Jones

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Dec 12, 2009, 7:28:57 PM12/12/09
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Don't give me psychobabble posturing about things that we don't know but
the doc knoews.

John Jones

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Dec 12, 2009, 7:30:01 PM12/12/09
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What is your assessment of harm for when the soul's longings are blacked
out?

ZerkonXXXX

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:31:01 AM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:30:01 +0000, John Jones wrote:

> What is your assessment of harm for when the soul's longings are blacked
> out?

I assess harm here as little more tangible than a soul's longings being
blacked out, which to me can mean not eating ice cream as often I long to.

John Jones

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Dec 21, 2009, 9:37:04 AM12/21/09
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If there are no more important things in our lives than icecream, then
why do doctors not give icecream cures?

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