Me.... Sensei
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN
I'm teaching art and computer skills to severely handicapped adults --
mainly folks with Cerebral Palsy, but also some autistics (low and mid
functioning), and retarded people (mild up to severe). I met a couple of
folks yesterday, one was a woman in her mid-50s, and another was a guy in
his 20s.
I'm also going to be displaying my artwork in a art festival for mentally &
physically disabled people. Just a few of my pieces -- 6 or so.
neko
新しいお仕事、頑張ってください。
展覧会のご成功をお祈りしています。
猫
Grand Marshall X King
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN wrote:
good for you Mr. Froggy!
You ought to tell them you can teach cooking classes too?
Ryno - just Ryno
GMT, the Noodly Appendage moved "The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN"
<uncle...@hotmail.com> to write:
Yay, the Frogman!
The good wife has recently gotten me interested in visual arts again,
after a hiatus of (quite some) years.
I'm rather enjoying what I'm doing, but actually thinking of
exhibition is a fair way off.
Hope it goes well, and the job also.
/ryno
The original Hornery Critter.
not that nice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster - Yarr! Here be Pastafarians!
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN
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The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN
"Ryno - just Ryno" <not_readin...@hotmail.com> looked at his/her
digital news:qc8fh1pduqf9mr7j1...@4ax.com watch, and wildy
gesticulated:
> On this day of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
<homer simpson> mmmmmm. flying spaghetti monsters. </homer simpson>
> Yay, the Frogman!
It's spiff!
> The good wife has recently gotten me interested in visual arts again,
> after a hiatus of (quite some) years.
That's cool. Do you have any examples anywhere? I've posted a few on
wetcanvas.com for people to see and critique. I'm just curious to see what
people say. I also put some on my website. http://kaikiart.bravehost.com
> I'm rather enjoying what I'm doing, but actually thinking of
> exhibition is a fair way off.
That's all that matters, is that you enjoy what you're doing. Too many
people create art for the intent to sell, and then don't really enjoy what
they're doing. But others, like me, just create and don't care if any of
them sell.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster - Yarr! Here be
Pastafarians!
That explains why I dream of seeing a blinding white light that disappears
with a "ding," followed by visons of meatball-covered entities anally
probing me with pesto-flavored strozzapreti. And then I wake up completely
covered in marinara sauce. Sometimes plain, sometimes with mushrooms,
garlic and basil. I don't like it, because sometimes the mushrooms get
stuck in my ears and other orifices, and are a bitch to clean out.
DARN YOU, FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
Ryno - just Ryno
>
>"Ryno - just Ryno" <not_readin...@hotmail.com> looked at his/her
>digital news:qc8fh1pduqf9mr7j1...@4ax.com watch, and wildy
>gesticulated:
>
>> On this day of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
>
><homer simpson> mmmmmm. flying spaghetti monsters. </homer simpson>
<drool noise>
>> Yay, the Frogman!
>
>It's spiff!
>
>> The good wife has recently gotten me interested in visual arts again,
>> after a hiatus of (quite some) years.
>
>That's cool. Do you have any examples anywhere? I've posted a few on
>wetcanvas.com for people to see and critique. I'm just curious to see what
>people say. I also put some on my website. http://kaikiart.bravehost.com
I *love* your sumiye work.
I have a "sort-of-sumiye" painting of my cat, done some time ago,
which I should really scan. For now,
http://www.smartgroups.com/pictures/openpicture.cfm?GID=3269042&AlbumID=5712313&PictureID=31646474&Layout=D&Sort=ordernum&Dir=ASC
is quite crude (about 3 minutes' work), but I'll post some textile art
and other stuff over coming weeks.
>> I'm rather enjoying what I'm doing, but actually thinking of
>> exhibition is a fair way off.
>
>That's all that matters, is that you enjoy what you're doing. Too many
>people create art for the intent to sell, and then don't really enjoy what
>they're doing. But others, like me, just create and don't care if any of
>them sell.
That may be the way it goes. Criticism, whether friendly or not, seems
to be a cue for me to be quite harsh about myself.
Others wrote the script and coached me to be word-perfect in it long
ago: it takes quite an effort to break the cycle and be objective
about stuff, especially in creativity.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster - Yarr! Here be
>Pastafarians!
>
>That explains why I dream of seeing a blinding white light that disappears
>with a "ding," followed by visons of meatball-covered entities anally
>probing me with pesto-flavored strozzapreti. And then I wake up completely
>covered in marinara sauce. Sometimes plain, sometimes with mushrooms,
>garlic and basil. I don't like it, because sometimes the mushrooms get
>stuck in my ears and other orifices, and are a bitch to clean out.
His Noodly Appendage knows no microwave. The Fundamental Boiler is the
ONLY Way!
>DARN YOU, FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
Heathen. You are the Antipasto!
/ryno
The original Hornery Critter.
not that nice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster - Yarr! Here be Pastafarians!
neko
すみません。エンコーディング間違ってました。これなら読めますか？
The autist formerly known as
international standard definition of a Haiku that is getting somewhere as
the British Haiku society as like as not would accept apothegma from corn
flakes packets
--
şT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
"neko" <neko...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN wrote:
neko
> Well that is all Japanese to me, but if anyone can come up with an
> international standard definition of a Haiku that is getting somewhere as
> the British Haiku society as like as not would accept apothegma from corn
> flakes packets
I have no idea what you are talking about. AFAIK the only definition of
haiku is that it consists of three clauses, each consisting of five,
seven and five (Japanese) syllables respectively. The rule also says
that it has to include one designated 'seasonal' word.
Does this help?
neko
The autist formerly known as
arguing that if you write Haiku in English then they need a different set of
rules.
http://www.britishhaikusociety.org/
--
şT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
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The autist formerly known as
(does that qualify as a British Haiku)
http://www.haikusoc.ndo.co.uk/occpapers.html
Same arguments can be made about the export of sonnets from Italian to
English cos it is easier to rhyme in Italian without such words as Purple
and Orange to contend with.
--
şT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
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The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN
"The autist formerly known as" <o...@ym.andius> wrote in message
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> arguing that if you write Haiku in English then they need a different set
of
> rules.
That's why Neko said _Japanese_ syllables. Japanese is a syllabery; English
is not.
Every character you see in a Japanese word is a syllable. For example, the
phrase for "Good Morning" is "Ohayou Gozaimasu," and is composed of the
syllables: o ha yo u go za i ma su (9 syllables). The word for computer is
"Pasokon," and is composed of the syllables: pa so ko n (4 syllables).
English is not a syllabery; it is composed of sounds. Each character in an
English word is NOT a syllable. "Good Morning" is 3 syllables in the
English language: good morn ing; "computer" is also 3 syllables: com put
er.
Therefore, if you were to take the literal of composition of Haiku, which is
5 Japanese syllables, then 7 Japanese syllables, then 5 Japanese syllables,
you could not use that scheme in English, because it would be impossible.
The autist formerly known as
messenger
tell yer what mind as what you reckon as a sylable might not always be there
in every pronunciation,
Tried to get an RP speaker to recite my poetry, he could not do it, entirely
different stresses
How many sylables in coat ? you might say it co tu some say it co at tu
others co'. so there you are,
Not everything that is reckoned to be Japanese Language is either, it
imports as English does. (and Welsh)
I don't give a shite what Neko said cos what I said was what I did, and
can't alter a jot of that any more than you can.
Freeze time and circle back?
not in my shack !
I do not like you.
--
şT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
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> "The autist formerly known as" <o...@ym.andius> wrote in message
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>
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN
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> <drool noise>
I didn't know how to type the drool noise. I suppose "goggoggoggogggoggog"
would suffice.
> I *love* your sumiye work.
Thanks.
> I have a "sort-of-sumiye" painting of my cat, done some time ago,
> which I should really scan. For now,
>
http://www.smartgroups.com/pictures/openpicture.cfm?GID=3269042&AlbumID=5712313&PictureID=31646474&Layout=D&Sort=ordernum&Dir=ASC
> is quite crude (about 3 minutes' work), but I'll post some textile art
> and other stuff over coming weeks.
LOL... I like the Zebra d00d. I half expect him to be surfing for H4WT
Z3BR4 PR0N, but... ermm.... maybe he's finding a nice recipe for crumpets
because he's inviting the Gazzellesteins, the Gorillasens and the
Hippopotamipopodopolouses over for Bridge. But, no no, he won't invite the
Chimpanzeezerottis over. Not after the egg beater incident. He'll never
invite them over again.
You do textile art? That's cool.
> >> I'm rather enjoying what I'm doing, but actually thinking of
> >> exhibition is a fair way off.
> >
> >That's all that matters, is that you enjoy what you're doing. Too many
> >people create art for the intent to sell, and then don't really enjoy
what
> >they're doing. But others, like me, just create and don't care if any of
> >them sell.
I forgot to add that most people who create art for the sole intent of
selling usually suck at it. Thomas Kincade is a perfect example. "Painter
of Light" my ass. More like "Painter of Paying Chinese Workers 50 Cents a
Day to Copy My Crappy Art and Sell it Way Overpriced in Hoity-toity Shopping
Malls Boutiques Under the Guise of 'Inspirational Art' and Hope that No One
Notices that it's Actually Fake Art because I've Tricked 1000s of Gullible
People Into Thinking that They Own a Piece of Art."
Yes.... Kinkade's art is considered "Fake Art." Why? He creates each
original piece. However, those pieces are copied 100s even 1000s of times,
and sold under the pretense that each individual owns a work of art. It's
not a work of art, it's a mass reproduction. Once a piece of art is
mass-reproduced, it loses its originality and therefore becomes "fake art."
According to George Dickie, at least.
Then there are artists like Thomas Leung, who do reproductions of their art,
but then they add to the reproductions by painting over parts, or adding
parts, so that each reproduction becomes an original piece. This is not
"Fake Art," because each piece, although reproduced, is enhanced by the
artist himself, and becomes an original piece. So, you can see 10 prints of
the same piece sitting next to each other, and each will be different.
> That may be the way it goes. Criticism, whether friendly or not, seems
> to be a cue for me to be quite harsh about myself.
Don't think of it like that. If you never receive critique, you'll never
get better. *All* artists -- well-known or not, have had to endure
critique, both positive and negative.
Don't forget, too, that with each view of your art, people learn things as
well as criticize. I had one guy who saw my "Hummingbird" painting, and he
sent me a message saying that he learned quite a bit from the piece, and it
inspired his own painting.
He said that it had an impressionistic quality to it. Then he asked why I
didn't crop it to fit the whole page. I explained that the position on the
page is just as important as the image itself; what you DON'T see is just as
important as what you see. People are free to induce their own scenarios in
this image -- maybe the bird is flying, maybe he's eating out of a flower;
maybe they don't see a bird at all, but something else; maybe they see
nothing.
http://kaikiart.bravehost.com/hummingbird.jpg
> Others wrote the script and coached me to be word-perfect in it long
> ago: it takes quite an effort to break the cycle and be objective
> about stuff, especially in creativity.
One has to be objective, especially over their own works. I can't stand
people who are so subjective about their own stuff that they refuse to
listen to other people. There's one guy called "Muz" on wetcanvas who is
like that. He rattles off some ridiculous pretentious meaning of his work,
and then he gets pissed off at people who don't see his view.
> His Noodly Appendage knows no microwave. The Fundamental Boiler is the
> ONLY Way!
Hmmm...... who are these strange pasta-enhanced creatures who sneak into my
room at night? Dang it... I woke up covered in marinara again. And this
time, I had pepperoni chunks where the sun don't shine.
DARN YOU, DELICIOUS MEATBALL AND MARINARA COVERED ALIENS!
> >DARN YOU, FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
>
> Heathen. You are the Antipasto!
Mmmm. Antipasto!
Rowe Rickenbacker
> I like the Zebra d00d. I half expect him to be surfing for H4WT Z3BR4 PR0N
pwned :)
7007.
--
Is it asking too much to be given time
To know these songs and to sing them
Is it asking too much of my vacant smile
And my laugh and lies that bring them
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN
"The autist formerly known as" <o...@ym.andius> wrote in message
> Well argue that with the British Haiku soc not me, don't assasinate the
> messenger
Huh? I wasn't flaming you. I was supporting your post.
> tell yer what mind as what you reckon as a sylable might not always be
there
> in every pronunciation,
In what language? English?
> Tried to get an RP speaker to recite my poetry, he could not do it,
entirely
> different stresses
Haiku is not a spoken form; it's a written form. And it doesn't matter how
English is pronounced, it's written the same. "Coat" is spelled "coat" no
matter what dialect of English you speak.
> How many sylables in coat ? you might say it co tu some say it co at tu
1 syllable in coat. Again, as I said above, Haiku is not a spoken form
It's a written form. So it doesn't matter how people pronounce something,
because they all write it the same.
> Not everything that is reckoned to be Japanese Language is either, it
> imports as English does. (and Welsh)
So? That doesn't kill the syllabery. They convert the imported word to
conform to the syntatactical aspects of the Japanese syllabery
English: Sweater -- sweat er (2 syllables)
Japanese: Suea-ta- (Sueaataa) -- su e a a ta a (6 syllables)
English: Shampoo -- Sham poo (2 syllables)
Japanese: Shanpu- (Shanpuu) -- Sha n pu u (4 syllables)
English: Sports -- sports (1 syllable)
Japanese: supottsu -- su po ttsu (3 syllables)
English: Mansion -- Mans i on (3 syllables)
Japanese: Manshon -- ma n sho n (4 syllables)
and so forth. In each of the examples, Japanese has adapted the word to
conform to their own syllabery.
> I don't give a shite what Neko said cos what I said was what I did, and
> can't alter a jot of that any more than you can.
As I said above, I was defending your post.
> I do not like you.
That was entirely uncalled for.
Grand Marshall X King
\
He was speaking in Mr. Froggy speak.
I have found his rhetoric very overbearing too. But if you were a frog
wouldn't you be just a little bit frustrated?
I hope no one in your class clubs you over the head Mr. Froggy because
of your temper??
If they do, I guess you could call it a Sensei-less murder???
natureloverchris
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN wrote:
natureloverchris
> Well that is all Japanese to me, but if anyone can come up with an
> international standard definition of a Haiku that is getting somewhere as
> the British Haiku society as like as not would accept apothegma from corn
> flakes packets
>
but the American Society also seems to lack some standards in regards to
haiku
Ryno - just Ryno
>
>"Ryno - just Ryno" <not_readin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:thigh11tmdhnpajko...@4ax.com...
>
>> <drool noise>
>
>I didn't know how to type the drool noise. I suppose "goggoggoggogggoggog"
>would suffice.
>
>> I *love* your sumiye work.
>
>Thanks.
>
>> I have a "sort-of-sumiye" painting of my cat, done some time ago,
>> which I should really scan. For now,
>>
>http://www.smartgroups.com/pictures/openpicture.cfm?GID=3269042&AlbumID=5712313&PictureID=31646474&Layout=D&Sort=ordernum&Dir=ASC
>> is quite crude (about 3 minutes' work), but I'll post some textile art
>> and other stuff over coming weeks.
http://caitycat.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/sunday_dyes.jpg
has some of today's unveilings.
>LOL... I like the Zebra d00d. I half expect him to be surfing for H4WT
>Z3BR4 PR0N, but... ermm.... maybe he's finding a nice recipe for crumpets
>because he's inviting the Gazzellesteins, the Gorillasens and the
>Hippopotamipopodopolouses over for Bridge. But, no no, he won't invite the
>Chimpanzeezerottis over. Not after the egg beater incident. He'll never
>invite them over again.
He's into Horses. Kinky!
>You do textile art? That's cool.
>
>> >> I'm rather enjoying what I'm doing, but actually thinking of
>> >> exhibition is a fair way off.
>> >
>> >That's all that matters, is that you enjoy what you're doing. Too many
>> >people create art for the intent to sell, and then don't really enjoy
>what
>> >they're doing. But others, like me, just create and don't care if any of
>> >them sell.
>
>I forgot to add that most people who create art for the sole intent of
>selling usually suck at it. Thomas Kincade is a perfect example. "Painter
>of Light" my ass. More like "Painter of Paying Chinese Workers 50 Cents a
>Day to Copy My Crappy Art and Sell it Way Overpriced in Hoity-toity Shopping
>Malls Boutiques Under the Guise of 'Inspirational Art' and Hope that No One
>Notices that it's Actually Fake Art because I've Tricked 1000s of Gullible
>People Into Thinking that They Own a Piece of Art."
We have similar opinions on some Persons Who Grow Very Rich Marketing
Crap And Now Want To Be Regraded As Serious Artists.
coughKenDonecough.
>Yes.... Kinkade's art is considered "Fake Art." Why? He creates each
>original piece. However, those pieces are copied 100s even 1000s of times,
>and sold under the pretense that each individual owns a work of art. It's
>not a work of art, it's a mass reproduction. Once a piece of art is
>mass-reproduced, it loses its originality and therefore becomes "fake art."
>According to George Dickie, at least.
>
>Then there are artists like Thomas Leung, who do reproductions of their art,
>but then they add to the reproductions by painting over parts, or adding
>parts, so that each reproduction becomes an original piece. This is not
>"Fake Art," because each piece, although reproduced, is enhanced by the
>artist himself, and becomes an original piece. So, you can see 10 prints of
>the same piece sitting next to each other, and each will be different.
I must look for the page of that bloke who modifies old, bad art into
new creations... (cue 1/2 hour of Googling to no avail).
>> That may be the way it goes. Criticism, whether friendly or not, seems
>> to be a cue for me to be quite harsh about myself.
>
>Don't think of it like that. If you never receive critique, you'll never
>get better. *All* artists -- well-known or not, have had to endure
>critique, both positive and negative.
Thanks. I will try to frame it in those terms.
>Don't forget, too, that with each view of your art, people learn things as
>well as criticize. I had one guy who saw my "Hummingbird" painting, and he
>sent me a message saying that he learned quite a bit from the piece, and it
>inspired his own painting.
>
>He said that it had an impressionistic quality to it. Then he asked why I
>didn't crop it to fit the whole page. I explained that the position on the
>page is just as important as the image itself; what you DON'T see is just as
>important as what you see. People are free to induce their own scenarios in
>this image -- maybe the bird is flying, maybe he's eating out of a flower;
>maybe they don't see a bird at all, but something else; maybe they see
>nothing.
>
>http://kaikiart.bravehost.com/hummingbird.jpg
>
>> Others wrote the script and coached me to be word-perfect in it long
>> ago: it takes quite an effort to break the cycle and be objective
>> about stuff, especially in creativity.
>
>One has to be objective, especially over their own works. I can't stand
>people who are so subjective about their own stuff that they refuse to
>listen to other people. There's one guy called "Muz" on wetcanvas who is
>like that. He rattles off some ridiculous pretentious meaning of his work,
>and then he gets pissed off at people who don't see his view.
Hard to let one's brainchildren go and live their own lives, innit?
>> His Noodly Appendage knows no microwave. The Fundamental Boiler is the
>> ONLY Way!
>
>Hmmm...... who are these strange pasta-enhanced creatures who sneak into my
>room at night? Dang it... I woke up covered in marinara again. And this
>time, I had pepperoni chunks where the sun don't shine.
Overshaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare!
>DARN YOU, DELICIOUS MEATBALL AND MARINARA COVERED ALIENS!
>> >DARN YOU, FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!
>>
>> Heathen. You are the Antipasto!
>
>Mmmm. Antipasto!
Mmmm. Black olives. Feta cheese. Mmmm.
September 19 be Talk Like A Pirate Day, and I surely be spreading the
Word Of The Ravioli Ghost, Yarrr!
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN
"natureloverchris" <NLC...@centurytel.com> wrote in message
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> that sounds really good.
Thanks. :-D
I hope that I can at least open some minds, because they seem like really
great folks. :-D
I'd type more, but I'm so f#$%in' drunk right now, I'm surprised I can type
this, LOL.
I've read your cries for help, Naturelovercrhis. Please don't give up, and
please don't end your life. I can feel for you. I understand your pain and
agony.
If you -- or anyone else -- needs someone who can listen to them. feel free
to send me a message. I will listen. I am a good listener. :-) Hell, I
might even reveal my true name.
neko
> So? That doesn't kill the syllabery. They convert the imported word to
> conform to the syntatactical aspects of the Japanese syllabery
It's not really a conscious act. Most Japanese people simply can't
pronounce consonants without adding a vowel.
> English: Sweater -- sweat er (2 syllables)
> Japanese: Suea-ta- (Sueaataa) -- su e a a ta a (6 syllables)
Sorry to be pedantic, but actually, it's se e ta a (4 syllables).
>>I don't give a shite what Neko said cos what I said was what I did, and
>>can't alter a jot of that any more than you can.
> As I said above, I was defending your post.
I did not criticise Larry, either. I simply stated the Japanese rules.
neko
The autist formerly known as
the people all of the time and your posts do have a tendencey to wind me up.
--
şT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
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> "The autist formerly known as" <o...@ym.andius> wrote in message
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>
>
Grand Marshall X King
The autist formerly known as wrote:
> The autist apologises for not liking the Frogman, hey you can't like all of
> the people all of the time and your posts do have a tendencey to wind me up.
I thought his speeches were.... RIVET ing...
(rivet! rivet! -- hops to a lilypad...)
>
>
> --
> þT
Grand Marshall X King
The REAL Pope Emperor FrogMaN wrote:
don't do it.
Anyway. We already know you are in the Froggy Witness Protection Plan.
After all, Mr. Frog went to Court and he did Ridge to a-hmmmm, a-hmmmmm
...