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Arak

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Nov 1, 2009, 3:36:18 PM11/1/09
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I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but there seem to be a lot of
old posts, particularly with regard to biomedical interventions, that
are being re-posted. (I'm sure the "Get Autism out of the DSM" has
already been discussed in great length...)

Is there a reason for this?

Arak /|\

Bob Badour

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Nov 1, 2009, 3:47:02 PM11/1/09
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I don't see that one. Either I have the culprit filtered or your usenet
server belched up some posts from long ago. I have seen that happen before.

Stephen Wilson

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Nov 1, 2009, 3:53:11 PM11/1/09
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"Arak" <arak.t...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the poster.

It helps if you have a killfile (although I gather one is not available to
anyone posting from Google). The only downside is that it makes this group
very quiet as most of the genuine posters seem to have deserted it,
presumably for greener pastures...


Stephen Wilson

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Nov 1, 2009, 3:55:23 PM11/1/09
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"Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Arak" <arak.t...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4cc81607-55e9-4859...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but there seem to be a lot of
>> old posts, particularly with regard to biomedical interventions, that
>> are being re-posted. (I'm sure the "Get Autism out of the DSM" has
>> already been discussed in great length...)
>>
>> Is there a reason for this?
>
> As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the
> poster.

Oops. Slip of the fingers there. I meant OCD...

Martijn Dekker

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Nov 1, 2009, 4:10:34 PM11/1/09
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In article
<4cc81607-55e9-4859...@t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Arak <arak.t...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, those posts are obviously more important than all others in this
group, therefore they must be posted again and again so they drown out
all that pesky supportive group conversation and drive away all those
pesky autistic people who would disagree with them.

(This is sarcasm on my part, but seems to me to be more or less what
actually goes on in the head of the poster in question.)

- M.

astri

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Nov 1, 2009, 5:06:09 PM11/1/09
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think the posters are recycling and posting anew

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astri

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Nov 1, 2009, 5:07:44 PM11/1/09
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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Stephen Wilson wrote:
> "Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
> message news:VxmHm.79255$kl7....@newsfe05.ams2...
>>
>> As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the
>> poster.
>
> Oops. Slip of the fingers there. I meant OCD...

that's ok
read it as: chronic obsessive posting disease

:)

astri

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Nov 1, 2009, 5:08:48 PM11/1/09
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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Martijn Dekker wrote:

> (This is sarcasm on my part, but seems to me to be more or less what
> actually goes on in the head of the poster in question.)

there's something going on in there?

Bob Badour

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Nov 1, 2009, 5:09:37 PM11/1/09
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astri wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
>> "Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
>> message news:VxmHm.79255$kl7....@newsfe05.ams2...
>>
>>> As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the
>>> poster.
>>
>> Oops. Slip of the fingers there. I meant OCD...
>
> that's ok
> read it as: chronic obsessive posting disease
>
> :)

To be blunt, chronic is right.

Stephen Wilson

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Nov 1, 2009, 5:42:28 PM11/1/09
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"astri" <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>> "Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
>> message news:VxmHm.79255$kl7....@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>
>>> As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the
>>> poster.
>>
>> Oops. Slip of the fingers there. I meant OCD...
>
> that's ok
> read it as: chronic obsessive posting disease
>
> :)

Hmm! Speaking of which, what's happened to Tim?


pautrey2

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Nov 1, 2009, 5:53:19 PM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 4:42 pm, "Stephen Wilson"

<stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "astri" <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:Pine.BSI.4.64.09...@malasada.lava.net...
>
> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Stephen Wilson wrote:
> >> "Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:VxmHm.79255$kl7....@newsfe05.ams2...

>
> >>> As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the
> >>> poster.
>
> >> Oops. Slip of the fingers there. I meant OCD...
>
> > that's ok
> > read it as: chronic obsessive posting disease
>
> > :)
>
> Hmm! Speaking of which, what's happened to Tim?

Loon Thread!

earthpots

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:16:27 PM11/1/09
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astri wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>> "Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
>> message news:VxmHm.79255$kl7....@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>
>>> As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the
>>> poster.
>>
>> Oops. Slip of the fingers there. I meant OCD...
>
> that's ok
> read it as: chronic obsessive posting disease


ROFLMAO! (Splurt!) Thank the gods for keyboard skins, it's saved mine way
too many times....

>
> :)
>
> -- astri
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HGJ

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Nov 1, 2009, 11:36:51 PM11/1/09
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On 1 Nov, 23:42, "Stephen Wilson"

<stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "astri" <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:Pine.BSI.4.64.09...@malasada.lava.net...
>
> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Stephen Wilson wrote:
> >> "Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wilson2004nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:VxmHm.79255$kl7....@newsfe05.ams2...

>
> >>> As far as I can figure, it's some kind of COPD on the behalf of the
> >>> poster.
>
> >> Oops. Slip of the fingers there. I meant OCD...
>
> > that's ok
> > read it as: chronic obsessive posting disease
>
> > :)
>
> Hmm! Speaking of which, what's happened to Tim?

Posting to b.l.a, among other groups:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/bit.listserv.autism/topics

Buzzard

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Nov 2, 2009, 1:28:24 AM11/2/09
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Yeah, they do seem to be drowning out the rest of the
conversation, with those repeated, long posts that look
like they're clipped out of other articles.
I haven't actually bothered to follow the links that they
sometimes include in their posts. Maybe they're selling
something.

Geoff

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:57:33 AM11/2/09
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MY EYES, MULTIPLE POSTS ARE BURNING MY EYES !!!
ARHHHHHH !
:)

Stephen Wilson

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:18:40 PM11/2/09
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"Buzzard" <buz...@domain.invalid.net> wrote in message
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Some of them are. The people who keep posting this stuff don't seem to be
particularly educated, and can't say anything for themselves which is why
they just keep pasting stuff written by other people. If they are ignored,
they post it again. And if anyone argues with them, they post it again. Fun!

Did you know that:
People should drink at least 8 glasses of water a day;
We only use 10% of our brains;
Hair and fingernails continue to grow after death;
Shaving hair causes it to grow back faster, darker and coarser;
Reading in bad light ruins your eyesight;
Eating turkey makes you especially drowsy;
Mobile phones create electromagnetic interference in hospitals

Did you know that every single "fact" I just stated is a myth?! And yet many
people believe them to be true.

The morals are:
Even doctors sometimes believe medical myths contradicted by scientific
evidence;
The prevalence and endorsement of simple medical myths point to the need to
continue to question what other falsehoods physicians (orthodox or
otherwise) endorse;
Examining why we believe myths and using evidence to dispel false beliefs
can move us closer to evidence based practice.

As Christmas is rapidly approaching, here are a few more festive-related
myths:

Sugar causes hyperactivity in children (not even children with ADD showed
any difference after eating sugar-full or sugar-free diets)

Suicides increase over the holidays (no evidence for this, and neither do
the dark winter months increase such rates)

Poinsettias are poisonous (in fact, no one has died from exposure to or
ingestion of poinsettias)

Excess heat loss occurs if you don't wear a hat "because 40 to 45% of body
heat is lost through the head" (studies show there is nothing special about
the head and heat loss)

Eating at night makes you fat (there's actually no link between eating at
night and weight gain. However, studies have shown that people who skip
breakfast end up eating more throughout the day - i.e. eat 3 regular meals
and you are less likely to overeat during any particular meal)

You can cure or prevent a hangover (aspirin, bananas, vegemite, water - none
of it works. The only way to avoid a hangover is to drink in moderation or
not at all)

Stephen Wilson

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:36:57 PM11/2/09
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"Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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And following on from the topic of medical myths, here's the top myths
according to Dr Keith Hopcroft in the Times last year:

1. Having sex can cause a heart attack in men (and also that sex is a good
form of exercise. It's roughly equivalent to climbing 2 flights of stairs)

2. High blood pressure causes headaches (high blood pressure usually has no
symptoms at all. It's a risk factor, not a disease. It also does not cause
dizzyness, although this may be a side effect to medication used to treat
high blood pressure)

3. Diabetics crave sugar (diabetes isn't caused by excess sugar - a diabetic
body just has problems handling it. And most diabetics do not need to buy
low sugar food and drink - a simple healthy diet is sufficient)

4. Women need to examine their breasts (self-examination isn't sensitive
enough. All you end up doing is making yourself more anxious)

5. Diets cut cholesterol (the best reduction recorded by a diet change is
10%. Most cholesterol is made by your liver, and dietary intake makes little
contribution)

6. Headaches alone can be a sign of a brain tumour (a tumour would normally
cause lots of other nasty effects, such as fits, personality change,
unsteadiness, etc)

7. Don't mix antibiotics and alcohol (any interaction of the 2 is virtually
nonexistent)

8. Your tiredness may be caused by anaemia (tiredness is common and usually
caused by lifestyle issues such as stress and lack of exercise. And
tiredness will not be cured with vitamins, no matter what the chemist tells
you!)

9. Flu injections give you flu (vaccines contain no live germs and cannot
cause flu)


Buzzard

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Nov 2, 2009, 11:18:37 PM11/2/09
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Stephen Wilson wrote:
> (snip)

> 9. Flu injections give you flu (vaccines contain no live germs and cannot
> cause flu)

Perhaps it was coincidence, those 2 times back in
the 1970's when I got the full-blown flu right after
getting vaccinated. Or did flu shots have weakened
viruses back then, but dead ones now?

Bob Badour

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Nov 3, 2009, 8:02:50 AM11/3/09
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Buzzard wrote:

Why were you getting shots in the first place? If you got shots because
a flu epidemic was under way, then the answer is neither. It's not
coincidence that you happened to get the flu and flu shots during an
epidemic.

Martijn Dekker

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Nov 3, 2009, 11:00:14 AM11/3/09
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In article <A8HHm.39215$%%3.2...@newsfe23.ams2>,
"Stephen Wilson" <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

[list of myths]


> Mobile phones create electromagnetic interference in hospitals

That one is definitely not a myth, see:
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSL0685683920070906
The study itself: http://ccforum.com/content/11/5/R98

- Martijn (HFA/AS)

Stephen Wilson

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Nov 3, 2009, 12:52:03 PM11/3/09
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"Buzzard" <buz...@domain.invalid.net> wrote in message
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Lots of possibilities here. First off - flu vaccines generally only protect
against 2 or 3 different strains. Other than in pandemic situations (as with
the current swine flu), most yearly vaccines protect against the strains
that were most common in the previous year. It's possible you got a variety
that the vaccine didn't protect against. It's also possible that it was just
bad timing - your immune system wasn't quite prepared, and if you'd had the
injection a couple of days earlier you'd have been OK.

You'll also find (and I'm not saying this is true in your case) that a lot
of people say they have flu when it's really only a cold.

Of course, as you say, it is possible that the vaccine has changed a bit in
the last 30 years.

There's some interesting information here that explains in more detail about
how a flu vaccine works:
http://healthguide.howstuffworks.com/influenza-vaccine-dictionary.htm

One of the risks the article mentions is that "some people do experience a
low-grade fever for a day or two after the shot as their immune systems gear
up to recognize the virus."


Stephen Wilson

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Nov 3, 2009, 1:56:55 PM11/3/09
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"Martijn Dekker" <mar...@inlv.demon.nl> wrote in message
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That's only one study. It is true that under certain circumstances, the
performance of some medical devices can be affected by electromagnetic
interference from a mobile phone. However, you have to be very close to the
device, and generally phones do not represent a risk (although it's usually
recommended that phones are switched off in intensive care wards just in
case) Here's a report from 2006:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-410125/Experts-say-mobile-phone-risk-hospital-patients-myth.html

There used to be a ban on the use of mobile phones in hospitals throughout
the UK, but that was lifted in 2009 following various recommendations:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article5458433.ece

Of course, one side effect of the lifting of the ban is increased noise on
wards, with some patients who have noisy ring tones, and others who just
talk loudly whenever they're on the phone. But that's another issue...


The Autist formerly known as

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:53:55 PM11/3/09
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Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disorder?

Anyway I have this better idea, get the DSM out of psychiatry..


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Buzzard

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Nov 4, 2009, 9:54:18 PM11/4/09
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I'm not sure which of those things it was...
If the flu vaccine *never* had live virus, even back then,
then it is possible that in going to the medical center to
get the vaccine, I got exposed to airborne flu from the
sick kids waiting to see the doctors.

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