What quirks do you have that you are comfortable with in private, but
which you generally suppress from the world? Is there anyone from whom
you do not hide those quirks (e.g. spouse, close family)?
For the purpose of this question, quirks can include forms of autistic
behaviour and interests, but I would also be interested in answers
from non-autistics.
As an example, I record my expenditure in detail on Microsoft Money,
even breaking down supermarket receipts into different categories of
food expenditure (e.g. £1.19 --> Bread, £1.73 --> Milk, ...) so that
over a year I know exactly how much I have spent on everything. I
wouldn't admit that to anyone because I would expect them to think it
was over-obsessive with detail and therefore think less of me.
As another example, I am very interested in the television series
Doctor Who, and will often watch clips on Youtube. However, I will
hide the level of my knowledge / interest if anyone raises the subject
in discussion in a social setting in case people think that interest
in science fiction is a bit "geeky". (The only exception is if
everyone else talking shows themselves to be very interested when I
will let my guard down and join them because I know they will not
think less of me as a result.)
Dolphinius
(Male, mid-thirties, UK, self-diagnosed AS)
My dishes have to be put away in an *exact* order. If my MIL puts them
away in a different order, I have to take them out and fix them when
she is gone. I also get upset if people load the dishwasher "wrong,"
even though I know there is no right or wrong way to load the
dishwasher. I feel almost angry if it isn't loaded the way I like it
to be loaded. I don't exactly hide these things from people, but I
don't think anyone knows because I don't talk about it, either. The
weird thing is, aside from these two things, I cannot think of other
obsessive-type things. I am not overly neat and I am, in general,
disorganized.
I also talk to myself. A lot. When I am alone I do it aloud. Some
people know this, but generally, they are only others who are equally
"quirky" and share their own oddities.
If I like a particular song, I have been known (by myself only, of
course!) to listen to it repeatedly for hours on end. Both to get the
lyrics exactly, and to catch all the nuances in the music.
Dolphinius, I tried to do that with my grocery expenses. I made it
about 2 shopping trips and gave up. I am horrible with expenses.
If I like a particular song, I have been known (by myself only, of
course!) to listen to it repeatedly for hours on end. Both to get the
lyrics exactly, and to catch all the nuances in the music.
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What are some of the songs?
Eva
I do plenty of things in private that I wouldn't do in public. Like jumping
for joy, hugging myself, various arm motions I make when I'm happy/excited.
Eva
>
> What quirks do you have that you are comfortable with in private, but
> which you generally suppress from the world? Is there anyone from whom
> you do not hide those quirks (e.g. spouse, close family)?
>
I like to draw cartoons as a hobby. On its own this is not quite
abnormal but I have never told anyone that this is an interest of mine
nor have shown anyone my drawings. My roommate doesn't even know of my
hobby despite the fact that I invest large amounts of time doing it.
I am quite embarrassed at my lack of skill regarding drawing in general
considering how long I have been drawing for. I am quite underdeveloped
as an artist while I can draw a very specific style of cartoons in a few
specific poses very well with considerable detail. This skill quickly
disappers as soon as I deviate from my typical settings and subject matter.
As such I keep this part of my life hidden from everyone else.
(Ps. I envy your ability to track your exspeneses. I often try but never
have the discpline to maintian such a detailed record.)
> (Ps. I envy your ability to track your exspeneses. I often try but never
> have the discpline to maintian such a detailed record.)
I only recently started tracking my supermarket breakdown in detail,
but I have a spreadsheet with a summary of a higher-level expense
category analysis which goes back to 1997!
It is interesting to see the trends over the past twelve years
(adjusting for inflation):
- Charity & Gifts has grown markedly in recent years
- Clothing has declined
- Garden & Home has been fairly random (lumpy expenditure depending on
what needs doing)
- Groceries has increased
- Medical has been fairly stable
- Recreation has declined
- Travel has been fairly stable
- Utilities has been fairly stable
My overall expenditure has declined. Excluding mortgage / rent, in
real terms my average expenditure for 2006-2008 was 64% of my average
expenditure for 1997-1999.
I have compared my expenditure to government recommendations for
minimum expenditure to avoid being classed as in poverty and I am
actually fairly close, with the exception that I live somewhere that
has a higher rental value. However, I feel I have a good life and what
I am missing out on wouldn't make me much happier.
--
þT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
"Dolphinius" <dolph...@fsmail.net> wrote in message
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Now doing impressions of John Cleese in Fawlty towers, that is what I would
call quirks.
--
þT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
"Aquarian Monkey" <Aquaria...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Eva
Oh, all kinds of songs. Ranging from U2, to Tori Amos, to Joe Walsh,
to Jason Mraz, to Cold Play. When I was younger it was often things my
parents listened to. I wouldn't call myself a music connoisseur at
all. I just like trying to figure the meaning of the lyrics (what
inspired the songwriter to write them) and I like to break the music
down and listen to the different instruments singly. Sometimes a
particular phrase catches my attention and I want to know what
surrounds it.
I am almost never bored by repetition. I imagine I have watched the
movie A Princess Bride over 100 times in my life. (No joke). And there
are a few other movies I have watched enough to make other people
sick. Part of it is I enjoy seeing it again and again, and another
part is I don't remember details very well, so if it's been awhile
since I saw something, I will only remember the "gist" of the movie,
so the details still seem fresh. For example, if you asked me to walk
you through the movie A Princess Bride from beginning to end by plot,
I can't do it because I don't really remember what happened exactly. I
only remember the gestalt.
<<I am almost never bored by repetition. I imagine I have watched the
movie A Princess Bride over 100 times in my life. (No joke). And there
are a few other movies I have watched enough to make other people
sick. Part of it is I enjoy seeing it again and again, and another
part is I don't remember details very well, so if it's been awhile
since I saw something, I will only remember the "gist" of the movie,
so the details still seem fresh. For example, if you asked me to walk
you through the movie A Princess Bride from beginning to end by plot,
I can't do it because I don't really remember what happened exactly. I
only remember the gestalt.>>
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(I put the <<...>> in because of that chevron problem)
My daughter, who is NT, is like you in that respect. Not that same movie,
but any movie or TV show she likes, she'll watch 100 times. For me, even my
favorites begin to lose their magic after 3 or 4 viewings--I start to see
the flaws in the plot and dialogue by then.
Eva
Most of my quirks are not suppressed. In fact, most of them are
strategies for coping with sensory issues.
I engage in some echolalic talking and singing to my dogs mostly at
home, but I don't exactly suppress that either as I am wont to do it
while walking them in public as well as around the house.
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
The best line.....EVER! :)
My parents hated me for a number of years. I gave the movie to my
sisters (twins) and they actually had it memorized. When they would go
to visit my grandma (about a 4 hour drive away) they would recite the
lines to the entire movie, complete with silly voices. (apparently
they don't share my inability to remember details!)
—I'm gonna work fifty times harder, and I'm gonna be fifty times more
famous than
than you.
—Then you're gonna have idiots like you plaguing your life!
What about Monty Python? I can quote most of the movies and skits..
"She's a witch! Burn Her!" "A Witch? How do you know she's a witch?"
"She turned me into a newt!" "A Newt?" "Well I got betta!"
...Sorry:P
Nikki
Hmm I have a LOT of quirks..probably why I'm usually the weirdo lol.
As an NT, I'm actually pretty proud of my quirks though lol. This is
where I sometimes have trouble empathizing with my oldest as she seems
very obsessed with being normal while I was always rather proud not to
be.
I read ALOT, about 3-4 500+page books a week.
I LOVE office supplies
I LOVE spreadsheet code..
I LOVE Monty Python, Little Britian, and Bollywood movies
I LOVE foreign music and follow japanese rock culture closely..
I dye my hair odd colors, such as pink, green, purple, orange, etc.
Not to be like Mrs. Slockham from "Are you being served", but just
because I love colors.
I LOVE fairies, and have full length fairy tattoos on my back
I love the book series twilight and have seen the movie 11 times...
I will listen to and watch movies I like until they're broke (my
oldest daughter does this as well).
Here's probably the strangest and somewhat most embarressing, I love
the sound of farts. For some reason the sound of it cracks me up
everytime. For that reason if someone comes in my office and does
that I'm usually cracking up.
The second thing that's somewhat odd but not really embarressing is
I'm really interested in little people. I'm 4'11" and have grown up
hearing at least one short joke a day my whole life, and as such I
have grown very interested in the various kinds of medical info in
regards to being a little person. I'm actually wanting to start a
charity to modify vehicles so people who are smaller can drive and it
can be expensive so it would help them out.
Ok, that's about it..I think? ;P
Nikki
P.S. The curly brown haired Dr. Who was the best..I had a crush on him
when I was a kid lol
--
þT
L'autisme c'est moi
"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"
"AmaranthQueen" <BratSAmar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition"
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I've always done this as well, had long conversations with myself
out loud... I try to do this only when by myself, but at times have
done this with other people around, sometimes when I didn't realize
that they were listening... I've always had a lot of nevous habits...
ripping up paper, biting my nails... for years I would pull my hair
out and eat my hair... thankfully, I stopped doing that a long time
ago...
Some context:
—Do you understand English? Take your things and go!
—All right, all right. I can take a hint, Jerry. I just want to ask
you to listen to my stuff for fifteen minutes. That's all. Is that
asking too much?
—Yes, it is. I have a life. Okay?
—Well, I have a life too.
—That's not my responsibility.
—Well, it is when you tell me to call you and then you don't call...
—I told you to call to get rid of you!
—To get rid of me?
—That's right.
—Okay. All right, I can take a hint.
—If I didn't tell you that, we'd still be standing on the steps of my
apartment!
—Yeah, all right. So I made a mistake.
—So did Hitler.
—All right... Oh... Oh, this is the way it is when you're famous. Now
I see.
—You understand now?
—That's how you guys are, ha?
—No, not... not them, me! Yeah!
—That's how you are.
—Aha! Right!
—When you reach the top.
—No, I was that way before.
—I see. Now I know how people like you are.
—Good bye and good luck!
—Good bye... And Jerry, Jerry... I just want to say one more thing,
Jerry. I'm glad what you did to me today. You know that? Because now I
know I can't rely on anybody. Not you, not anybody. And I shouldn't
rely on anybody.
—Right!
—You know that? And you want to know something else? I'm gonna work
Some context:
優o you understand English? Take your things and go!
輸ll right, all right. I can take a hint, Jerry. I just want to ask
you to listen to my stuff for fifteen minutes. That's all. Is that
asking too much?
雄es, it is. I have a life. Okay?
邑ell, I have a life too.
裕hat's not my responsibility.
邑ell, it is when you tell me to call you and then you don't call...
悠 told you to call to get rid of you!
裕o get rid of me?
裕hat's right.
涌kay. All right, I can take a hint.
悠f I didn't tell you that, we'd still be standing on the steps of my
apartment!
雄eah, all right. So I made a mistake.
祐o did Hitler.
輸ll right... Oh... Oh, this is the way it is when you're famous. Now
I see.
雄ou understand now?
裕hat's how you guys are, ha?
湧o, not... not them, me! Yeah!
裕hat's how you are.
輸ha! Right!
邑hen you reach the top.
湧o, I was that way before.
悠 see. Now I know how people like you are.
宥ood bye and good luck!
宥ood bye... And Jerry, Jerry... I just want to say one more thing,
Jerry. I'm glad what you did to me today. You know that? Because now I
know I can't rely on anybody. Not you, not anybody. And I shouldn't
rely on anybody.
由ight!
雄ou know that? And you want to know something else? I'm gonna work
fifty times harder, and I'm gonna be fifty times more famous than than
you.
裕hen you're gonna have idiots like you plaguing your life!
---------------
Is this from "The King Of Comedy?" I'm not much for movies, but that was a
great one.
Eva
Yes, that's the one. The dialogue above can be found between 7:21 and
8:29 here:
I've been wondering if Rupert Pupkin could be considered to show signs
of AS. (Some years ago, it was speculated in this newsgroup that
another character played by the same actor in a movie by the same
director might have AS.) However, Rupert's body language seems pretty
advanced.
>What quirks do you have that you are comfortable with in private, but
>which you generally suppress from the world? Is there anyone from whom
>you do not hide those quirks (e.g. spouse, close family)?
These days, not so much with the suppressed quirks.
I used to hide my psychology obsession - that is, my fixing myself
obsession - and hope that I could get positive results without needing
to discuss it much. To a point, that even worked. But I did feel that
no-one would understand what I was doing, so I kept it mostly to
myself.
Also, when I have a diet-and-fitness fit, it's amazing how much
exercise I can manage to do indoors - obviously in order to avoid
being ridiculed while exercising in public. In that case, it's the
hiding that is the quirk rather than the exercise of course. Also, the
ridicule thing seems to be getting less common anyway.
>For the purpose of this question, quirks can include forms of autistic
>behaviour and interests, but I would also be interested in answers
>from non-autistics.
I'm diagnosed Aspergers, but I'm not convinced what I've listed is
particularly autistic.
>As an example, I record my expenditure in detail on Microsoft Money,
>even breaking down supermarket receipts into different categories of
>food expenditure (e.g. £1.19 --> Bread, £1.73 --> Milk, ...) so that
>over a year I know exactly how much I have spent on everything. I
>wouldn't admit that to anyone because I would expect them to think it
>was over-obsessive with detail and therefore think less of me.
I have fits and starts of this. I used to have a program I wrote for
the Psion organiser that kept track of regular bills, known future
payments and daily expenditure etc, and would project my "balance" for
up to three months in the future as a graph. It was very useful for
figuring out if I could really afford things - being able to see that
known payments were already going to take me close to an overdraft in
perhaps a months time and all that.
>As another example, I am very interested in the television series
>Doctor Who, and will often watch clips on Youtube.
I enjoy sci-fi, including Dr Who, but I wouldn't describe myself as a
fan. Though I have recorded every episode the new Dr. Who (other than
the last XMas special) and made up DVDs. Similarly for the Sarah
Connor Chronicles.
Actually, I'm not really all that keen of Sarah Connor. It's OK, but a
little disappointing. If anything, I'm a fan of Summer Glau - but not
so much as a terminator. The main reason I'm still recording them all
is because I have recorded them all - so that's a bit quirky, I guess.
One of my big annoyances at the moment is that when I bought the
supposed final series of Battlestar Gallactica, it turned out to be
only about half the series if that - plus the Razor stuff to pad it
out a bit, but I already bought that. Something to do with the writers
strike I think, though no doubt that's at least partly just an excuse
for ripping off the fans.
Personally, I don't see the point in talking a great deal about
Sci-Fi. A bit, maybe, but not much. To me, it's just light
entertainment. Usually there are some interesting themes to speculate
about, but if I want to debate the serious issues that sci-fi covers,
I prefer to discuss those issues WRT reality rather than sci-fi.
In those rare situations when I've been talking to a *real* sci-fi
fan, I very quickly end up lost. Even if I've seen the programs being
referred to, I don't remember them in anywhere near enough detail for
the discussions, and I don't get involved in fan activities online or
elsewhere, I very rarely watch the making-ofs and extras and so on.
So for that, I'd say it's not that I suppress a quirk, but rather that
I don't express the quirk because I don't really have it. I watch more
sci-fi than most people, but that's basically because I don't fill my
time with other, more social, activities. And it has got worse since I
came out of work, but again, that's for obvious time-filling reasons.
This is actually a bit of a problem for me. You see, there are crowds
where sci-fi is an accepted topic of discussion. The way I see it,
there are two main kinds of "Geek".
1. The original meaning of the words "geek", "nerd" and "dork", which
is now only reliably expressed by "dork", since the meanings of
the other terms has shifted a lot.
This is the "social incompetent misfit" meaning which is strongly
linked to high functioning autism.
2. The "respectable geek" - a byproduct of the association between
technical interests and "geeks" which made geeks somewhat "cool".
Unfortunately, this didn't really affect the type-1 geeks in the
long term - it just led to a kind of geek culture in which people
adopt geek appearance, geek interests etc (always within limits)
as a badge of group membership.
That doesn't mean I see "type 2" geeks as superficial or false.
When my father was young, he was a biker/rocker, at a time when MODs
and rockers had a certain rivalry. My dad liked some music that was
associated with MODs - so he bought it in secret and kept quiet about
it, rather than appear like an "enemy sympathiser".
The thing is, there's no reason why enjoying sci-fi should be limited
to particular social groups. It's designed to be entertaining, after
all. A type-2 geek may work harder at an interest in sci-fi, but
ultimately that's just about maintaining group membership, like
learning sports stats for a jock and so on.
That is, I figure that - like my father, enjoying MOD music in secret
- I suspect that there are a lot of closet sci-fi fans out there, at
least to the point of trying to watch every episode of favorite shows
and so on.
The point is that it's still perfectly possible to be a type-1 geek
but not a type-2 geek.
I kind of wish I could manage the intense interest in sci-fi that the
type-2 geeks can achieve. It is, after all, the way you get to be a
member of the type-2 "geek club". It is a way to make social
connections. But I just can't achieve that level of interest in
anything now, and when I could, it wasn't going to be sci-fi because
it was (and still is) just light entertainment to me.
My daughter likes to rip up paper. She does it less now that she likes
to draw. She also likes to tear the paper wrapping off of crayons. She
also likes to draw closed figures. Sometimes, she will fill a paper
with (literally) hundreds of circles. I think she must like the
repetition. Even when she draws something else, like a rabbit or a
family or a house, she will fill the paper with circles if you don't
take the drawing from her.
> My daughter, who is NT, is like you in that respect. Not that same movie,
> but any movie or TV show she likes, she'll watch 100 times. For me, even my
> favorites begin to lose their magic after 3 or 4 viewings--I start to see
> the flaws in the plot and dialogue by then.
>
I am the same way. I know people who have large movie collections while
the only movies I own are ones that people have given to me as gifts. I
never understood why people buy movies since I have little interest in
seeing a movie over once I have seen it. Same goes for books, video
games etc.
Though music doesn't tire as quickly with me as it does with other
people. When I like a song or artist I can listen over and over again.
"By "quirk" I mean things that are not considered normal."
"What quirks do you have that you are comfortable with in private, but
which you generally suppress from the world? Is there anyone from whom
you do not hide those quirks (e.g. spouse, close family)? For the
purpose of this question, quirks can include forms of autistic
behaviour and interests, but I would also be interested in answers
from non-autistics."
"As an example, I record my expenditure in detail on Microsoft Money,
even breaking down supermarket receipts into different categories of
food expenditure"
I think that's awesome. I used to do that, too, but not so much in
detail. After over a year or so keeping track, I found out we spend
more on food around holidays like Easter, Thanksgiving, and the week
of Christmas/ New Years than at any other time of the year. I used one
spreadsheet to keep track of my manga collection when they used to do
monthly comic book issues, what I spent during the month, on which
titles, and what came in and what got cancelled. I can tell people now
they've got it easy with manga books being around $10 anymore, thanks
to Tokyopop who really broke open the market. It's so much cheaper now
to collect translated manga, let me tell you. Instead of $30 or more,
it's $10 for the same amount of story. But I miss the color artwork on
the monthly books. Oh well.
"As another example, I am very interested in the television series
Doctor Who, and will often watch clips on Youtube. However, I will
hide the level of my knowledge / interest if anyone raises the subject
in discussion in a social setting in case people think that interest
in science fiction is a bit "geeky". (The only exception is if
everyone else talking shows themselves to be very interested when I
will let my guard down and join them because I know they will not
think less of me as a result.)"
I love Dr. Who too. I have some shows on original Videotape like the
almost forgotten Shada (written by Douglas Adams) that features Tom
Baker narrating the bits that never got completed. It was one of few
stories to be affected by a strike at the Beeb. One episode of another
story, mentioned in an early book on the show, was actually destroyed
by the Beeb. It was described to have featured a birthday party for
one of the show's actors. I wonder how many thought to have been lost
episodes in the archives at the BBC have been found and since been
released on DVD.
I even have a plastic TARDIS that has a battery powered flashing blue
light on top. Years ago, when one local TV station was showing the
Peter Cushing movies, they offered free paper model plans for a Dalek,
and I sent away for a free copy. ^_^ I think the new recent series are
pretty good. In the U.S., most PBS stations would take the multi-
episode serials and edit them together in longer hour-long or so
"movies", so instead of taking 6 weeks, we'd get a complete story in
2 90-minute shows. Now, BBC America or Scifi Network shows the new
series, but you don't see any of the classic shows anymore. We used to
tune in a grainy UHF station from Ohio University with our VCR to
watch those on Saturday nights (and tape them as best as we could).
Science Fiction isn't all that "geeky", but there is a time and place
to share and enjoy. Conventions, for example. I go to anime
conventions to meet women.