End the ADHD Nightmare For Good
Jan Drew
“How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
Harmful ADHD Drugs...”
Mark Probert
Well, it did not take long for my automatic bullshit detector to find
this:
"ADHD Is A Disease And You Can Only Cure It With Drugs"
What an utterly stupid, moronic comment for anyone to make.
No one has ever claimed that pharmaceuticals *CURE* AD/HD.
Unless, of course, they are selling something.
And, he is, for $19.95.
Jan, why do you shill for this guy?
Peter Bowditch
Because Hulda's dead and Jan needs some other quack to shill for?
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
Mark Probert
> Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 11, 6:52 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>
> >> “How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
> >> Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
> >> Harmful ADHD Drugs...”
>
> >Well, it did not take long for my automatic bullshit detector to find
> >this:
>
> >"ADHD Is A Disease And You Can Only Cure It With Drugs"
>
> >What an utterly stupid, moronic comment for anyone to make.
>
> >No one has ever claimed that pharmaceuticals *CURE* AD/HD.
>
> >Unless, of course, they are selling something.
>
> >And, he is, for $19.95.
>
> >Jan, why do you shill for this guy?
>
> Because Hulda's dead and Jan needs some other quack to shill for?
I guess Mercola does not want to part with his millions. I note that
the site Jan posted has a link for
AFFILIATE PROGRAM!
So, now she seems to have stooped to shilling for dollars.
Raving
http://www.cfpsa.com/en/psp/Deployed/images/PopupPhotos/TimHortons2.jpg
> “How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
> Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
> Harmful ADHD Drugs...”
Easy! Go work at in a Tim Horton's in Kandahar.
Raving
There is big money to be made shilling in Manhattan with all those
huge bonus revenue sharing increases made off the 0% Fed prime rate.
Uncle Sam is super generous to those who worked hard and deserve to
take a 30% cut of the interest spread.because they prudently lent
money at responsibly cautious rates over Fed 0% prime.
Howard S Shubs
<623f086e-1a8a-4b21...@m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Mark Probert <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, it did not take long for my automatic bullshit detector to find
> this:
"Jan Drew" is all we need to see to know it's bullshit. You can stop at
the header.
--
Don't bother with piddly crap like "gun control".
Life is 100% fatal. Ban it.
Mark Probert
> In article
> <623f086e-1a8a-4b21-9631-1f4cd5cb3...@m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, it did not take long for my automatic bullshit detector to find
> > this:
>
> "Jan Drew" is all we need to see to know it's bullshit. You can stop at
> the header.
Thanks. I have been putting off buying the update, and now see that I
need to invest in the current version. Windows 7 can wait.
Howard S Shubs
<2b7a0837-d9fe-4176...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
Mark Probert <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. I have been putting off buying the update, and now see that I
> need to invest in the current version. Windows 7 can wait.
I dunno, Mark. I've had her in my killfile for years. She not only has
nothing to say in *this* newsgroup (alt.support-attn-deficit), she has
nothing to say in various other newsgroups such as the ones above and
the ones for other brain-related troubles. She may have value in some
way on USENET, but I've yet to see it. Maybe she has value in the
bedroom, but I can't personally attest to it.
Bob Officer
Howard S Shubs <how...@shubs.net> wrote:
>In article
><2b7a0837-d9fe-4176...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
> Mark Probert <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I have been putting off buying the update, and now see that I
>> need to invest in the current version. Windows 7 can wait.
>
>I dunno, Mark. I've had her in my killfile for years. She not only has
>nothing to say in *this* newsgroup (alt.support-attn-deficit), she has
>nothing to say in various other newsgroups such as the ones above and
>the ones for other brain-related troubles. She may have value in some
>way on USENET, but I've yet to see it. Maybe she has value in the
>bedroom, but I can't personally attest to it.
Howie, Jan is a bigoted fool with control issues. She is a ignorant
control freak with no understanding of what she is writing or logical
thinking abilities.
--
Bob Officer
Posting the truth
http://www.skeptics.com.au
Howard S Shubs
Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
> Howie, Jan is a bigoted fool with control issues. She is a ignorant
> control freak with no understanding of what she is writing or logical
> thinking abilities.
I'm just saying maybe has some non-obvious redeeming feature. Does
anyone know? It doesn't much matter to me, since as I've said, I
killfiled her long ago.
Jan Drew
http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Denial supreme from all the trolls, liars, and harassers.
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
“How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
Harmful ADHD Drugs...”
Mark Probert
> Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks. I have been putting off buying the update, and now see that I
> > need to invest in the current version. Windows 7 can wait.
>
> I dunno, Mark. I've had her in my killfile for years. She not only has
> nothing to say in *this* newsgroup (alt.support-attn-deficit), she has
> nothing to say in various other newsgroups such as the ones above and
> the ones for other brain-related troubles. She may have value in some
> way on USENET, but I've yet to see it.
Jan has a function. I use her as a bad example.
Maybe she has value in the
> bedroom, but I can't personally attest to it.
Stephen King is still writing.
Mark Probert
Spam deleted
Howard S Shubs
<1eb5fa24-60f9-41f6...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Mark Probert <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stephen King is still writing.
So if he comes out with a book called Jan, we know it's a TRUE horror.
Jan Drew
You failed to change the subject, the trolls and gang members are
liars, like you.
Jan Drew
And not a single one of the trolls,harassers, and liars stuck with the
subject.
Proving me 100% correct again.
Gang members, trolls, harassers and liars stick together trying to
cover for each other,
and posting off topic.
Sad that.
No truthful person would. or does believe them.
Mark Probert
> Is the subject. Make a note of that.
The display on GoogleGroups reads:
Discussion subject changed to "End the ADHD Nightmare For Good" by Jan
Drew
With your name there, the subject is Y O U.
> You failed to change the subject, the trolls and gang members are
> liars, like you.
Who are you talking too? You snipped all attributions.
Mark Probert
> On Nov 11, 6:52 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.barto
>
> And not a single one of the trolls,harassers, and liars stuck with the
> subject.
> Proving me 100% correct again.
> Gang members, trolls, harassers and liars stick together trying to
> cover for each other,
> and posting off topic.
>
> Sad that.
>
> No truthful person would. or does believe them.
You posted spam. I snipped it.
Bob Officer
Who cares.
> You snipped all attributions.
Janbotv2's favorite method of disruption.
Happy Oyster
>In article
><1eb5fa24-60f9-41f6...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> Mark Probert <mark.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stephen King is still writing.
>
>So if he comes out with a book called Jan, we know it's a TRUE horror.
Oh, don't give him the idea! We would end up having a 6-hours film in TV with
Janet Mae Stidd life...
.
--
Die Medienmafia � Die Regividerm-Verschw�rung ... Hintergr�nde,
Fakten, Abenteurer...
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5710
Die Medienmafia � Klingelh�llers Rezeptur einer Salbe gegen
Neurodermitis
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5707
Jan Drew
dr_jeff
>
> http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>
> �How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
> Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
How much do you get paid to sell this book?
Mark Probert
Aww...Jan, you are shilling for an MLMer. This is a link on his page:
http://www.bartonpublishing.com/affiliates.php
As for his claims, he is full of HuldaClark. No one has ever claimed
that medications *cure* or *treat* the underlying causes of AD/HD.
Well, that is not precisely true. Quacks, like this guy, do claim that
others claim it, because he is promoting sales.
Once again, you fall for a sales pitch.
Such utter lack of comprehension skills in a 70 year old woman....
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>
> “How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
> Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
> Harmful ADHD Drugs...”
RIGHT ON, Jan. How many innocent children have been falsely diagnosed
by this PHONY spin-drome is beyond comprehension, but at least now we
can save the millions who will be.
Let's cut right to the cheese, ADD and ADHD are phony spin-dromes,
they do NOT, I repeat, do NOT exist.
Anyone who read my voluminous well-documented articles in the "Olde
England Journals of Medicine" and "Journal of United States Medical
Assistants" will understand the whose, what's, and wheres of how this
came to be!
Bottom line, stay away from ALL medicine that turns your children into
mind-controlled zombies.
Thank you for your time and consideration!!
Sir Artio
buzzard
> (sdnip)
>
> Bottom line, stay away from ALL medicine that turns your children into
> mind-controlled zombies.
Just because I have ADD, that doesn't mean I'm going
to be taking anything for it.
I compensate as best I can without drugs.
mark.p...@gmail.com
Don't confuse fArtie with facts.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
Oh, hush now, Proby. It has been proven by the Foundation I am
associated with, that you are extremely jealous of my vastly superior
knowledge compared to yours about these subjects. My printed articles
demonstrably prove everything I have always espoused. And
furthermore, I NEVER profit from anything I have written. They are
for public consumption only. These are the people I aim to reach, and
have succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. But our work here is not
finished and there is much more that needs to be done!
So we will continue in the humanitarian vein that we have been mining
FOR YEARS, PLUS our only goal is to reach as many of the general
public as we can.. We will win the War against Big Pharma's dis-
info about ADD and we will turn the entire system around. Those are
our lofty goals that we will achieve and achieve smashingly. IT HAS
TO BE DONE, and we will do it.
Sir ARtiO
Jeffrey
> On Nov 11, 6:52 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>
> > “How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
> > Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
> > Harmful ADHD Drugs...”
>
> this:
>
>
> What an utterly stupid, moronic comment for anyone to make.
>
> No one has ever claimed that pharmaceuticals *CURE* AD/HD.
>
> Unless, of course, they are selling something.
>
> And, he is, for $19.95.
>
> Jan, why do you shill for this guy?
Yeah, and how can you trust a 16 year old doctor?
--
Jeffrey
GTA
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 3:52 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>
> > “How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End TheADHD
> > Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
> > HarmfulADHDDrugs...”
>
> RIGHT ON, Jan. How many innocent children have been falsely diagnosed
> by this PHONY spin-drome is beyond comprehension, but at least now we
> can save the millions who will be.
>
> they do NOT, I repeat, do NOT exist.
>
> Anyone who read my voluminous well-documented articles in the "Olde
> England Journals of Medicine" and "Journal of United States Medical
> Assistants" will understand the whose, what's, and wheres of how this
> came to be!
>
> Bottom line, stay away from ALL medicine that turns your children into
> mind-controlled zombies.
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration!!
>
> Sir Artio
How much drivel can this website support ADHD does exist, and the
drugs offered to people that suffer from it can help with the
symptoms. They do not turn children or adults into Zombies at all. It
is a pity people with such narrow minds that are full of rubbish are
allowed to publish such inaccurate statements.
Linda
> On 30 Nov, 15:12, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
>
>
>
>
> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 11, 3:52 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>
> > > “How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End TheADHD
> > > Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
> > > HarmfulADHDDrugs...”
>
> > RIGHT ON, Jan. How many innocent children have been falsely diagnosed
> > by this PHONY spin-drome is beyond comprehension, but at least now we
> > can save the millions who will be.
>
> > Let's cut right to the cheese, ADD andADHDare phony spin-dromes,
> > they do NOT, I repeat, do NOT exist.
>
> > Anyone who read my voluminous well-documented articles in the "Olde
> > England Journals of Medicine" and "Journal of United States Medical
> > Assistants" will understand the whose, what's, and wheres of how this
> > came to be!
>
> > Bottom line, stay away from ALL medicine that turns your children into
> > mind-controlled zombies.
>
> > Thank you for your time and consideration!!
>
> > Sir Artio
>
> How much drivel can this website support ADHD does exist
Since those who tout and/or buy into the Myth of Mental Illness
decided to try and coopt ALTERNATIVE discussion/support forums like
ALT.SAD rather then creating and/or subscribing to a social support
forum for those who buy into the Myth of Mental Illness in Usenet's
SOC heirarchy, there's absolutely nothing which those who buy into
the Myth of Mental Illness can do about those who don't buy into the
Myth of Mental Illness publishing their alternative POV in alternative
discussion/support forums like ALT.SAD.
Regards,
Linda Marie Gore
Mark Probert
Please do not assume fArtie has a mind. You insult those of us who
do.
Peter B
news:aabd6b8f-ae01-4c7e...@g22g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Regards,
Linda Marie Gore
==================================================
As usual your posts here make little sense. They ring of the rant of
those in self denial, even moreso when viewed in the lights of your
previous posts where you describe your diagnosis of mental health
issues, your supporting drugs, and then on to your own self-diagnosis
and self-prescribing by mixing your old meds.
Your "alt" views appear to vary from drug to drug.
Linda
> "Linda" <indomitab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Your globally defaming me, Linda Marie Gore, by your misattributing
me as the author of every article ever published to usenet by those
who buy into the Myth of Mental Illness is duly noted.
However, your globally defaming me, Linda Marie Gore, by falsely
misattributing yours truly as the author of every other article ever
published by individuals who buy into the myth of mental illness does
not alter the fact that Usenet's SOC hierarchy is, always has been,
and always will be the appropriate hierarchy for those who tout and/or
buy into to the Myth of Mental Illness to create and/or subscribe to
discussion forums and/or support groups.
Nor does your globally defaming me, Linda Marie Gore, by falsely
misattributing yours truly as having authored every other article ever
published by individuals who buy into the myth of mental illness,
alter the fact that those who buy into the myth of mental illness
cannot do a damn thing about those who do not buy into the Myth of
Mental Illness publishing their alternative POV in ALT. SAD, or, any
other discussion or support group located in Usenet's ALTERNATIVE
heirarchy.
Peter B
===============================================
I haven't a clue what you are attempting to say here, sorry.
I am only going by the posts you made with all your proper attributes.
Linda
Your lame defense for globally defaming me, Linda Marie Gore, by your
falsely misattributing me as the author of every other article
published by those who buy into the Myth of Mental Illness isn't going
to hold up in a Court of Law.
In the meantime, neither you nor any of the other cyberpaths
cybersquatting your sociopathic arses in usenet's ALT and MISC
discussion forums and support groups can do jackshit about myself and
others who don't buy into the Myth of Mental Illness publishing our
ALTERNATIVE POV in ALT.SAD or any other discussion forum or support
groups located in Usenet's ALT or MIsc hierarchies.
Eat Grits!
Peter B
Eat Grits!
==================================================
MMmmm Grits is good, thank you.
It would be hard to defame you since you seem to post all around the
Mayberry tree.
I am not trying to stop you posting anything your mind can conjure up,
and you seem quite capable at that. You might want to write a book,
mystery or science fiction if you will. Many outstanding authors had
their own mental dilemas yet wrote some outstanding pieces. I'd bet you
could too but you need to go into more detail about how the goverment is
tracking you, following you and embeding strange things in your mind,
Since your particular disease is a myth anyhow, then it should flow
freely in your mind.
You said others don't buy into it either. Are they the little voices in
your head or where are they?
Eat Steak.
Linda
Your switching the blame for your defamation from yourself to those
whom you defame won't hold up in a court of law.
>
> I am not trying to stop you posting anything your mind can conjure up,
> and you seem quite capable at that. You might want to write a book,
> mystery or science fiction if you will. Many outstanding authors had
> their own mental dilemas yet wrote some outstanding pieces. I'd bet you
> could too but you need to go into more detail about how the goverment is
> tracking you, following you and embeding strange things in your mind,
> Since your particular disease is a myth anyhow, then it should flow
> freely in your mind.
I don't negotiate with Blackmailers or Terrorists because you're all a
bunch of psychopaths/sociopaths who defame and effect your targets
murder even when your targets complied with your criminal demands.
Thus, there's absolutely nothing you can say or do to procure my
silence except murder me.
In the meantime, I will continue publishing whatever I want to,
whereever I want to, whenever I want to, and, there's nothing you
and the other Blackmailers and Terrorists cybersquatting in Usenet's
ALT and Misc forums can do about it.
Eat grits!
Peter B
====================================================
Sorry, I don't do that and you should not presuppose.
Why do you keep bringing up the law? It makes no sense, especially since
they are government run.
>
> I am not trying to stop you posting anything your mind can conjure up,
> and you seem quite capable at that. You might want to write a book,
> mystery or science fiction if you will. Many outstanding authors had
> their own mental dilemas yet wrote some outstanding pieces. I'd bet
> you
> could too but you need to go into more detail about how the goverment
> is
> tracking you, following you and embeding strange things in your mind,
> Since your particular disease is a myth anyhow, then it should flow
> freely in your mind.
I don't negotiate with Blackmailers or Terrorists because you're all a
bunch of psychopaths/sociopaths who defame and effect your targets
murder even when your targets complied with your criminal demands.
==============================================
That's a wee bit strong isn't it? Not sure how old you are but you still
seem to be alive so what the talk about a murder? I also did not defame
you or do you somehow feel defamed when a person brings up the mental
unpleasantries of their past? If it is inherited it is not shameful.
Thus, there's absolutely nothing you can say or do to procure my
silence except murder me.
==============================================
Whoa there, that is overboard, and you do not even know me. I already
stated that you have a right to express yourself and that no one should
stop you. That said, you just might want to reconsider before you post.
It might might help make you a bit more sound.
In the meantime, I will continue publishing whatever I want to,
whereever I want to, whenever I want to, and, there's nothing you
and the other Blackmailers and Terrorists cybersquatting in Usenet's
ALT and Misc forums can do about it.
==============================================
What publishing company do you use, and what is your pen name. Sounds
like it might be an interesting read, sort of like a modern day Edgar
Allen Poe.
Eat grits!
==============================================
Once a week is fine, thank you.
Linda
You most certainly are doing that to myself and others whom you
Defame, then, switch the blame for "your" defamation to them.
> Why do you keep bringing up the law?
Why not?
I am a citizen of the United States of America where the Defamation of
myself to either, procure my participation in aggression and criminal
acts perpetrated against myself and others, or, to procure my
silence regarding the aggressive and crimes perpetrated against myself
and others constitutes the Crime of Blackmail.
I am a citizen of the United States of America where publication of
veiled and not so veiled threats to exact retribution against myself,
my child(ren), and, other loved ones to either, procure my
participation in aggressive and/or crimes perpetrated against myself
and others, or, to procure my silence regarding the aggression and
crimes perpetrated against myself and others, constitutes the crime
of making terrorist threats a/k/a Terrorism.
I am a citizen of the United States of American where two or more
person's Defamation of me to either, procure my participation in
aggressive and criminal activities being engaged in against myself and
others, or, to procure my silence regarding the aggressive and
criminal activities being engaged in against myself and others
constitutes the crime of Conspiracy To Blackmail.
I am a citizen of the United States of America where two or more
persons publication of veiled and not so veiled threats to exact
retribution against myself, my child(ren), and other loved ones to
either procure my participation in the aggressive and criminal
activities being engaged in against myself and others, or, to
procure my silence regarding the aggressive and criminal actitivies
being engaged in against myself and others constitutes the crime of
conspiracy to make terrorist threats aka Terrorism.
I am a citizen of the United States of American where cultural
warriors who form any type of organization, association, group,
cabal, cell, posse or ring to silence, oppress, terrorize and/or
effect the murder of one or more other civilians, and/or collect
money in exchange for silencing, oppressing, terrorizing, and
effecting the murder of one or more other civilians all do so in
violantion of America's Racketeering Influence and Corrupt
Organizations Act aka RICO Act.
(Of course, Quackwatch, along with their and Probert's Rag Tag
Posse, and, whatever organization Bowditch was seeking and/or
collecting money for in exchange for the crimes he perpetrates against
Jan, as well as, all the Cult of Psychiatry's Warriors, and, it's
Terrorist Cell in SPP/AUK, all also violated the section of the
Patriot Act which prohibits Domestic Terrorism; however, the
unconstitutionality of the Patriot Act renders that moot---AFAIC.)
Furthermore, the misogynism and heterophobia of a huge percentage of
the cultural warriors who have participated in the Conspiracy to
Blackmail and Terrorize myself and others, means they will also be
running afoul of The Hate Crimes Act come Jan. 01, 2010.
> It makes no sense, especially since
> they are government run.
Duh!
The US govern-ment wouldn't be able to call itself a govern-ment if it
didn't reserve the right to enforce US Law as it sees fit.
However, the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution mandates the US
government afford every American the equal protection of US Laws,
including US Anti-Blackmail Laws, US Anti-Terrorism Laws, the US's
RICO, and, The Patriot Act and Hate Laws should they be deemed
Constitutional.
When employees of the USG fail to afford a US Citizen/Family the equal
protection of US law, and, the USG employees failure to afford the
US Citizen/Family the equal protection of US law results in the
perpetration of crimes against the US Citizen/Family for YEARS, the
USG employees are both civilly and criminally liable and can be
prosecuted alongside the Blackmailers and Terrorists for their role in
the Conspiracy to Blackmail and Terrorize the Citizen and her child
(ren).
Of course, the civil and criminal complicity of USG employees in the
Conspiracy to Blackmail and Terrorize a US Citizen and her child(ren)
for YEARS, means the USG will turn an even blinder eye to the
Conspiracy to Blackmail and Terrorize the Citizen and her child(ren).
However, just because the USG is, and has been turning a blind to
the Conspiracy to Blackmail and Terrorize myself and others, for
YEARS on end, doesn't mean the USG will always turn a blind eye to
the Conspiracy to Blackmail and Terrorize me and my child(ren).
There are too many aspects of my and my child(rens) civil and criminal
cases re this matter which are truly beyond the pale.
>
> > I am not trying to stop you posting anything your mind can conjure up,
> > and you seem quite capable at that. You might want to write a book,
> > mystery or science fiction if you will. Many outstanding authors had
> > their own mental dilemas yet wrote some outstanding pieces. I'd bet
> > you
> > could too but you need to go into more detail about how the goverment
> > is
> > tracking you, following you and embeding strange things in your mind,
> > Since your particular disease is a myth anyhow, then it should flow
> > freely in your mind.
>
> I don't negotiate with Blackmailers or Terrorists because you're all a
> bunch of psychopaths/sociopaths who defame and effect your targets
> murder even when your targets complied with your criminal demands.
> ==============================================
> That's a wee bit strong isn't it?
Nope!.
Not sure how old you are but you still
> seem to be alive so what the talk about a murder?
What's wrong with talking about murder?
It's estimated that over the course of the last 100 years,
Totalitarian Governments have murdered 169,000,000 people.
The "Full Spectrum Dominance" the USG has been hyping is one and the
same thing as Totalitarianism.
Since "Full Spectrum Dominance" = Totalitarianism and Totalitarianism
= Murder, to the tune of 169,000,000 people over the course of the
last 100 years, then those of you who cybersquat your sociopathic
arses in alternative discussion forums to degrade and dominate
alternative discussion forums to ensure the dissemination of ideas and
information is consistent with the themes of the USA's Totalitarian
Government, best be prepared to discuss Murder.
>:I also did not defame you
Yes, you did.
> do you somehow feel defamed when a person brings up the mental
> unpleasantries of their past?
It doesn't matter how I "feel" about you and other sociopaths
fabricating shit out of whole cloth to smear me to either procure my
participating in your aggressive and criminal activities against
myself and others, or, to procure my silence wrt your aggressive and
criminal activities against others.
Your smearing me is Defamation.
Your defamation of me to procure my participation in your aggressive
and criminal activities against myself and others, or, to procure my
silence wrt your criminal activities constitutes the Crime of
Blackmail.
Your doing so to effect my murder by proxy is Terrorism.
>If it is inherited, it is not shameful.
Upping the ante, eh?
> Thus, there's absolutely nothing you can say or do to procure my
> silence except murder me.
> ==============================================
> Whoa there, that is overboard, and you do not even know me.
You don't know me either, but, that didn't stop you from joining
those who have been Conspiring to Blackmail, Terrorize, and effect
my murder for nearly a decade.
I already
> stated that you have a right to express yourself and that no one should
> stop you. That said, you just might want to reconsider before you post.
> It might might help make you a bit more sound.
I am sound: therefore, I don't need to make an effort to "appear"
sound, because, you and other sociopaths conspire to defame,
blackmail, terrorize, and/or effect my murder, to ensure the ideas
and information being disseminated on the WWW are consistent with the
shittola our Totalitarian Government hypes.
> In the meantime, I will continue publishing whatever I want to,
> whereever I want to, whenever I want to, and, there's nothing you
> and the other Blackmailers and Terrorists cybersquatting in Usenet's
> ALT and Misc forums can do about it.
> ==============================================
> What publishing company do you use, and what is your pen name. Sounds
> like it might be an interesting read, sort of like a modern day Edgar
> Allen Poe.
:-)
>
> Eat grits!
> ==============================================
> Once a week is fine, thank you.
Then, eat sheeet!
Peter B
Why not?
Duh!
Nope!.
Yes, you did.
Upping the ante, eh?
:-)
Then, eat sheeet!
================================================
You must be of the Pistacchio crowd.
That was a Nutcase Manifesto if I sever saw one.
I truly hope you have no kids to pass on such nonsense too.
I have seen no evidence of any of your allegations here.
according to your private manifesto you can do nothing untill after
2010. Will you be alive after so that you can sue others via a court who
does not and will not consider you an American citizen?
You are one very strange person.
Jan Drew
> On Nov 11, 9:46 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>
> > >> “How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
> > >> Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
>
> > >Well, it did not take long for my automatic bullshit detector to find
> > >this:
>
> > >"ADHD Is A Disease And You Can Only Cure It With Drugs"
>
> > >What an utterly stupid, moronic comment for anyone to make.
>
> > >No one has ever claimed that pharmaceuticals *CURE* AD/HD.
>
> > >Unless, of course, they are selling something.
>
> > >And, he is, for $19.95.
>
> > >Jan, why do you shill for this guy?
>
>
> I guess Mercola does not want to part with his millions. I note that
> the site Jan posted has a link for
>
> AFFILIATE PROGRAM!
>
> So, now she seems to have stooped to shilling for dollars.
http://www.skeptics.com.au/shop/
http://www.acahf.org.au/books/index.html
Now, you were posting, hypocrite?
Peter Bowditch
>On Nov 12, 9:23�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 9:46�pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >On Nov 11, 6:52�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > >>http://www.bartonpublishing.com/adhd/?gclid=CMSA5pmQhJ4CFU1M5QodETPJqg
>>
>> > >> �How You Can Banish Hyperactivity, Cure Inattention And End The ADHD
>> > >> Nightmare For Good. . . Safely, Naturally And Without The Use Of
>> > >> Harmful ADHD Drugs...�
>>
>> > >Well, it did not take long for my automatic bullshit detector to find
>> > >this:
>>
>> > >"ADHD Is A Disease And You Can Only Cure It With Drugs"
>>
>> > >What an utterly stupid, moronic comment for anyone to make.
>>
>> > >No one has ever claimed that pharmaceuticals *CURE* AD/HD.
>>
>> > >Unless, of course, they are selling something.
>>
>> > >And, he is, for $19.95.
>>
>> > >Jan, why do you shill for this guy?
>>
>> > Because Hulda's dead and Jan needs some other quack to shill for?
>>
>> I guess Mercola does not want to part with his millions. I note that
>> the site Jan posted has a link for
>>
>> AFFILIATE PROGRAM!
>>
>> So, now she seems to have stooped to shilling for dollars.
>
>http://www.skeptics.com.au/shop/
What has this got to do with me, Jan? I have nothing to do with that
site any more.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0231146361?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0231146361
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BIMNDQ?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B002BIMNDQ
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/051788433X?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=051788433X
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801857074?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0801857074
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591020646?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1591020646
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591020646?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1591020646
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801857074?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0801857074
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060778407?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0060778407
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591020646?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1591020646
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691133557?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0691133557
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060778407?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0060778407
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195135156?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomputerc&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0195135156
>
>http://www.acahf.org.au/books/index.html
>
>Now, you were posting, hypocrite?
Thanks for the links, Jan, but why have you suddenly started
advertising here? If you decide to do it again, it would be useful to
include the names of the books you are advertising so that people know
if they are interested or not.
Again, thanks.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
Jan Drew
Liar, I did not post that. You did.
>
> Spam deleted
Why don't you delete this spam from you buddies?
http://www.skeptics.com.au/shop/
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Peter Bowditch
>On Nov 14, 7:25?pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 6:31?pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > ?http://www.
>
>Liar, I did not post that. You did.
>>
>> Spam deleted
>
>Why don't you delete this spam from you buddies?
>
>
>http://www.skeptics.com.au/shop/
What has that site got to do with anything here, Jan? I have nothing
to do with it any more. Of course, if you want to advertise it on your
own behalf go right ahead.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0231146361?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
>
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BIMNDQ?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
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>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/051788433X?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
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>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691133557?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
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>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195135156?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
It would make much more sense if you are going to advertise books to
include the full URLs. The ones you listed do not work.
Having said that, they appear to be advertisements for books sold
through my account at Amazon. I appreciate that and thank you for it,
even if nothing will get sold because the links don't work
>
>
>http://www.acahf.org.au/books/index.html
>
>
>Now, you were posting, hypocrite?
>
Peter B
"Jan Drew" <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote in message
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http://www.skeptics.com.au/shop/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0231146361?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BIMNDQ?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/051788433X?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801857074?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691133557?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060778407?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195135156?ie=UTF8&tag=gebessecomput...
http://www.acahf.org.au/books/index.html
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Now that is funny, deleting Marks "spam" but cutting n pasting in other
peoples "spam" and holding Mark accountable?
Linda
Nationwide criminal racket involving top-level government agencies
such as DHS and DOJ threatens national security and targets
whistleblowers
Self-identified targeted individuals’ claims of persecution and
widespread, systemic Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and
Department of Justice (DOJ) abuse of power are mounting with the
grassroots organization, Medical Whistleblowers that includes its
Transportation Whistleblower spokesperson, also spokesperson of the
Whitsleblowing Airline Employees Association, Captain Dan Hanley.
Last week, Hanley stated that the Department of Homeland Security and
Transportation Safety Authority were recently responsible for the
greatest national and airline passenger security risks since 911 and
he continues to highlight FBI and DOJ refusal to respond to former
alleged criminal complaints involving United Airlines.
Criminal retaliation against TI whistleblowers
In COINTELPRO signature style of yesteryear, the FBI and DOJ grants
immunity to criminals retaliating against citizens that attempt to
expose corruption, such as “kidnapping of children, false
incarceration after framed by criminal elements in civil and criminal
authorities, impoverishment, coercion under duress, and serious
physical injury up to and including death.” (Barbara Hollingsworth,
UPDATE: FBI, DOJ refuse to investigate charges of judicial corruption,
Examiner, 12/03/09)
Self-identified targeted individuals (TIs), many of whom are human
rights defenders and corruption whistleblowers, many struggling to
survive the above-named retaliatory criminal assaults and persecution,
consistently report that the FBI refuses to investigate, the DOJ
prevents legal support, and the mental health system denies advocacy.
Instead, TIs are re-victimized, often through forced medical and
psychiatric evaluations, sometimes forced psychiatric treatment.
Senator Leahy called to action
Medical Whistleblower Executive Director Dr. Janet Parker has written
to Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy about issues relating to
reporting “Medical Fraud, Abuse and Neglect of Patients and Human
Rights Violations” and the possibility of testifying before
congressional committees.
Recently, American self-identified Targeted Individuals also wrote to
Leahy calling for an investigation:
We, the undersigned, are therefore compelled to request that
congressional hearings be held to examine our issues and hear our
accounts of what is happening covertly in this country. It is time to
end the cover-up and restore our country once again to its founding
constitutional principles of freedom of justice for all.
Non-government groups across the nation are calling to impeach DOJ
judge Jay Bybee for alleged war crimes resulting in thousands of
innocent people being tortured, the latest protest against the
'Torture Judge' at court being last Thursday in Pasadena, California
with Sharon Tipton saying, Bybee should be in jail, not sitting on the
bench. (See Dupré, We will not be silent. Dupré inerviews Torture
Judge Bybee protester Sharon Tipton, December 11, 2009)
Now, commercial aviation safety and security personnel terminated
since 2001 for reporting security systems frailties, plus national and
international whistleblower advocates want persecuted airline
whistleblowers’ cases publicly reviewed.
These airline captains, federal air marshals and others attempting to
protect passengers report that the FBI and DOJ refuse to investigate
their claims, a national and passenger security grave risk.
Barbara Hollingworth of The Examiner reported that for three years,
the FBI and DOJ have refused to investigate material evidence of a
nationwide criminal racket allegedly infiltrated in state and federal
courts, manipulating and exploiting litigants in bankruptcy, family
and probate courts.
Fraud, computer hacking and money laundering
A 2006 affidavit claims that “multiple judges and lawyers are aware of
and/or involved in alleged criminal acts,” naming Judge Eugene R.
Wedoff, chief Northern District of Illinois bankruptcy judge in 1986.
Wedoff presided over the 2005 United Airlines (UA) bankruptcy
resulting in 20 large unsecured creditors losing nearly $18 million
and UA defaulting on $3.2 billion worth of pension obligations for
over 134,000 employees, “the largest pension default in three decades
– while its top executives walked off with millions in exit bonuses,”
reported Hollingworth.
Dan Hanley, Whistleblowing Airline Employees Association (www.airline-
whistleblowers.org) public spokesperson and former United 777 captain
forced out of his job after reporting safety issues impacting
passengers, stated that the recent TSA security leak was the greatest
threat to passenger security since 911.
Hanley also alleges that United management fraudulently withheld
information from the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation (PBGC) that
took over their pensions, and that PBGC never conducted federally
mandated analysis of the United pension fund before agreeing to its
termination. Although the Securities and Exchange Commission recently
agreed to look into the matter, it has not met its stated deadlines.
Hollingworth reports that a court affadavits allege United Airline
associated illegal actions:
Judge Wedoff and other alleged criminal judges of accepting $40
million in bribes at LaSalle National Bank in Chicago plus Wells Fargo
and Northern Trust Bank in Arizona according to Hollingworth.
Wedoff’s payoffs went into ERW Living Trust that purchased Lot 114 of
Greenfield Place in Maricopa County, Arizona and the signature of ERW
trustee, “Richard E. Williams” is identical to Judge Wedoff’s.
A Phoenix, Arizona based criminal racketeering enterprise created
fraudulent documents and identity theft to hack into the INSLAW court
software program to funnel stolen private and government funds into
Omega and Anchor Pure Trusts.
These trusts dispersed the hot cash into personal trusts, such as ERW,
that then used fake property mortgages already bought with cash to
further launder the money.
Multiple lawyers of prominent law firms” used fake federal marshal
credentials to access the Federal Court Building in Chicago."
Wedoff allowed a bankruptcy trustee to confiscate and destroy records
and transfer 'large sums of money' to his account at La Salle, 'highly
irregular and illegal.'
The FBI and DOJ have not investigated what appears to be a massive
criminal infiltration of the federal court system. As Hollingworth
posits, “The big unanswered question is: Why not?”
National security and air safety at risk
The Department of Transportation never responded to Hanley’s April
2006 letter to Secretary Mineta. Furthermore, the US Department of
Transportation wrote to Hanley stating that his FAA Whistleblower
Report, (filed via certified mail with FAA), was “lost” and, “We
anticipate no further action from our office regarding this matter.”
In a December 12 letter to Inspector General, Department of
Transportation Calvin L. Scovel, Inspector General, Department of
Homeland Security Richard L. Skinner, and Inspector General,
Department of Justice Glenn A. Fine, Hanley stated:
“The issues addressed in my original and subsequent FAA Whistleblower
Reports concerned grave commercial aviation safety and security
issues.
“Additionally, allegations of methods of suppression of honest pilots
who speak out in the name of passenger safety, but are ushered off the
property at their airline through employment of ‘hostile workplace
environment forced medical and psychiatric evaluations’ were
addressed, as this sometimes results in the pilot loss of his medical
certification, a federal requirement to fly commercial jet aircraft.
“Without appropriate governmental oversight of departments responsible
for ensuring passenger and aircrew safety, but even more importantly,
insurance of enforcement of current whistleblower laws, which
sometimes results in retaliatory action against whistleblowers, our
national air safety and security is compromised.
Persecution of honest public servants sends "chilling signals to other
would-be whistleblowers within the airline industry, the Federal
Aviation Administration, and the Federal Air Marshal program" says
Hanley.
Ban Ki-moon has pledged to "fight discrimination targeting individuals
vulnerable to attack," the 2009 International Human Rights theme being
to end discrimination. Whistleblowers are among those most vulnerable
to persecution, including assassination.
“With a 2% probability of success for today’s federal whistleblowers
under existing laws, stronger language of HR 1507 must be included in
the final passage of the ‘Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act of
2009,’” stated Hanley.
Learn more by taking responsible action and continuing to ask, "Why?"
and "Why not?" Listen to:
Dr. Janet Parker’s Medical Whistleblower Blog Talk Radio Program,
addressing safety issues, as have current FAA whistleblower
Continental First Officer Newton Dickson, and former FAA whistleblower
Delta Captain Wayne Witter on: 1) Medical Whistleblower Blog Talk
Radio of August 1, 2009
2) Medical Whistleblower Blog Talk Radio August 8, 2009
Individuals from organizations as guests on ‘Whistleblowing Airline
Employees Blog Talk Radio Program’:
Whistleblowing Airline Employees Blog Talk Radio of August 28, 2009
Whistleblowing Airline Employees Blog Talk Radio of September 4, 2009
Whistleblowing Airline Employees Blog Talk Radio of September 11,
2009
Whistleblowing Airline Employees Blog Talk Radio of September 18, 2009
Whistleblowing Airline Employees Blog Talk Radio of October 2, 2009
Whistleblowing Airline Employees Blog Talk Radio of October 8, 2009
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unless republishing permission is granted. Emai in...@DeborahDupre.com.
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Peter B
On Dec 16, 12:49 pm, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
Nationwide criminal racket involving top-level government agencies
such as DHS and DOJ threatens national security and targets
whistleblowers
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Was your name supposed to be on this list? I didn't see it.
Escape_the_Cult_Now
http://whyaretheydead.info/Quentin_Hubbard_22/index.html
"Quentin was found unkempt with a beard stubble, a state that no one who
knew Quentin could accept. (He was ultra-meticulous in his appearance.) Or
that the license plate of the car was missing and found under a rock some
distance away. Or that his wallet was gone, making identification
impossible. Or that a near-empty bottle of liquor was found, as if he had
been drinking, when Quentin did not. Or that there were needle marks on his
arms, when he did not use drugs."
"He had disappeared from his home in Clearwater, Florida, and was found
unconscious in a car next to the Las Vegas airport. (Coroner's report is
attached as Exhibit U. He died unidentified, as a "John Doe.") The engine of
the car was on and a hose ran from the exhaust pipe (although it appeared to
have fallen off when the authorities arrived) to the window, making it
appear to be a suicide. But, like his father's death, there were a number of
nagging questions . "
In Memory of Quentin Hubbard (22), sadly the son of scientology crime cult -
Off'd his own son
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check alien ng's.