Can Blue Green Algae Be Of Help With ADHD?
Noah's Dove
The Algae AD/HD
Connection
Can Blue Green Algae Be Of Help With
Attention Deficit / Hyperactivity Disorder?
by Dr. John Taylor, Ph.D. Licensed Clinical Psychologist
I have traveled throughout North America over
the last half decade giving the MEGA ANSWERS TO
AD/HD seminar. In one jam-packed day I survey academic, psycho-social and
nutritional approaches to AD/HD for mixed audiences of parents and helping
professionals. While having no connection with any company involved in
harvest, manufacture or marketing of foods, medicines, or nutrients, I have
been in a position to talk with thousands of parents and professionals very
frankly about AD/HD. And blue-green algae is consistently mentioned to me
by parents as being of help for children with AD/HD. Why? What exactly is
the algae-AD/HD connection? Attention Deficit / Hyperactivity Disorder is
primarily a disorder of the central nervous system, particularly of the
brain. The answer to the AD/HD - algae connection lies deep within the
tangled web of 100 billion or so nerve cells (called neurons) in the human
brain. Let's examine what it takes to keep these large and delicate cells
functioning at their maximum level of efficiency.
Blood Sugar
A landmark study of adults with AD/HD showed that neurons throughout the
brain have sluggish glucose metabolism (36). In other words, they suffer
from an abnormally low energy supply. As a result they probably aren't
conducting their chemical reactions properly, including the manufacture of
key chemicals used in thought - neurotransmitters. In fact, a low level of
dopamine and norepinephrine is one of the most consistent findings in
research on brain processes in AD/HD individuals (2,16). My extensive
experience in this field has shown me that anything that helps stabilize and
normalize blood sugar level will help AD/HD individuals become calmer and
more focused. Some of the components of blue-green algae seem to have this
kind of stabilizing effect on blood sugar level.
Freedom from Toxic Attack
There is a flood of research indicating that brain nerves, when energy
supplies are low, are more subject to disruption of their functioning from
toxic effects of various irritant chemicals than when energy suppliers are
normal (3,17,25). The AD/HD child's brain is therefore probably more apt to
be disrupted than that of a child who has no psychiatric or medical problems
(10).
Some of the neurotoxic chemicals studied so far, that seem to be especially
disruptive to low-energy-state brain neurons are among 4000 chemical
additives lacing foods and beverages
(1,3,9,15,17,19,20,21,22,23,24,26,28,29,33,34,35).
Some studies have actually created hyperactivity and related conditions in
lab animals by exposure to these food additives (15, 19).
Numerous research projects have verified that eliminating exposure to these
potentially neurotoxic substances can significantly improve the mental and
behavioral functioning of AD/HD children (4,5,7,11,13,14,18,30,32,35).
Blue-green algae is a natural food that is harvested rather than
manufactured, and is unlikely to be laced with artificial dyes,
preservatives or flavor modifiers, such as MSG or artificial sweeteners.
Amino Acids
The neurotransmitters are usually composed of amino acids and are
manufactured on-site by the neurons. AD/HD is ultimately a protein
metabolism problem. Giving the brain plenty of building blocks from which
it can make more neurotransmitters makes good sense. There is some research
evidence verifying that meals high in amino acids help reduce behavioral
problems from AD/HD children (10). The amino acid profile of blue-green
algae closely matches optimal profile recommended by the Food and Nutrition
Council.
The down side of amino acids is that some of them are quite toxic to the
brain and must be kept out, or allowed to enter only in very small amounts,
by special protective mechanisms within the neurons. These protective
mechanisms demand cellular energy and will falter if energy supplies are
low. Neurons can become "flooded" -- or attacked--by too much of any one
amino acid (3). Examples are the glutamate component of the flavor enhancer
monosodium glutamate (MSG) and the aspartate component of the artificial
sweetener aspartame (3,17,19,22,24,25,26,27,28,29). In AD/HD part of the
problem is the low energy supply to the neurons, and this fact could explain
the research finding that MSG is sometimes disruptive for AD/HD individuals
(5,35). Ideally, the brain would select whatever amino acids it needs --
and in proper amounts -- from a wide variety available form the
bloodstream. A feature of blue-green algae proteins seldom mentioned but
crucial for AD/HD brain metabolism is that its amino acids are all in
relatively balanced proportion to each other. Thus the likelihood of toxic
flooding is minimal.
Trace Minerals
Neurons require numerous trace minerals to support the incredibly large
number of chemical reactions they must conduct. Children with AD/HD have
been found to be low in zinc (9). Their blood copper levels have been found
to be abnormal (6). They are at risk for poor metabolizing of trace
minerals and could probably benefit from a consistent source of numerous
easily-assimilable trace minerals. Blue-green algae harvested from a
pristine source, such as a mineral-rich lake, is likely to contain a variety
of trace minerals in assimilable form.
Protection from Oxidative Stress
The brain is an expensive organ to run. It uses a lot of oxygen -- about
1/5 of what the person breathes in. It uses about 1/4 of all the calories
obtained from food. Whenever a considerable amount of oxygen is
metabolized (in the brain, for example), several electron pairs from the
oxygen atoms break their bonds and become unconnected or unpaired. They are
said to be "free", and the resulting bizarre molecule is called a
"radical." The unpaired electrons instantly seek out new electrons to pair
with, grabbing them from a neighboring molecule. The unstable, unpaired
electrons are now stable, but they have changed the neighboring molecule
into a "free radical"; that is, a modified molecule with one or more
unpaired electrons in their outer orbits. These chain reaction of electrons
taking new partners from neighboring molecules can proceed unchecked into
any body tissue and is called oxidative stress. It has been found by recent
research to contribute to various disturbances is body function and to some
disease conditions (3).
Our interest, however, is in oxidative stress through free radical damage to
neurons. The brain has its protective mechanisms, chief among which is a
special donor of electrons, Vitamin C. This interesting substance (known
chemically as ascorbic acid) provides new partners for unpaired electron,
thus preventing the need for grabbing elections from neighboring molecules
within the nerve tissue. Everyone's brain hoards Vitamin C, most probably
for this purpose. Anything that prevents or reduces oxidative stress would
be desirable for any person with stressed neurons or neurons low on energy
and protective mechanisms (3). Vitamin E, and to a lesser extent
beta-carotene, perform a similar function. Blue-green algae contains
several components, including the pigmented carotenoids, that are considered
helpful in reducing oxidative stress.
Vitamins
If minerals are the soldiers for neurons, vitamins are the generals. They
determine the distribution and activity of trace minerals within nerve
tissue. The trace minerals thus facilitate and carry to completion the
actions of the crucial vitamins for the human brain -- A, B, C, and E.
Vitamin A is best delivered in the form of beta-carotene, because the body
can make exactly the amount it needs from beta-carotene.
All of the B vitamins facilitate functioning of the nervous system in
general, and neurons in particular. In a fascinating research project
featuring a direct scientific comparison with generic Ritalin
(methylphenidate), Vitamin B-6 was found to produce to more consistent and
longer lasting helpful effects on behavior of children with AD/HD (8).
Vitamins C and E are important especially for their free radical quenching
properties, but also have other useful functions within neurons.
Blue-green algae contains all of these vitamins and is an especially
concentrated source of beta-carotene and Vitamin B-12.
Essential Fatty Acids
Neurons are composed of nearly 50% fatty acids. These large molecules also
facilitate many of the ongoing chemical reactions conducted by the neurons.
Children with AD/HD have been found to be abnormally low in essential fatty
acids (9,23,31). Also some research projects have involved direct
treatment of AD/HD with EFA's , with encouraging results (9,12). While it
contains both Omega-3 and Omega-6 EFA's, blue green algae is relatively rich
in the much harder to find Omega-3.
The Connection
What is the connection? Is it the presence of easily assimilable trace
minerals such as zinc? Of beta-carotene and Vitamin B-12? Of Omega-6 and
especially Omega-3 essential fatty acids? Of numerous amino acids in
balanced amounts? The answer, of course, is "all of the above," and
provided in a natural way, free of questionable artificial additives.
For More Information
Obtain a catalog of over 80 resource materials (including various FREE forms
and checklists) to assist with AD/HD and related conditions from FACT'R,
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El Paso, Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Portland (ME), Reno, San Diego, San
Francisco, Stroudsburg (PA), Syracuse, Toronto, and Windsor (ON).
Editor's Note: John F. Taylor is a prominent authority on AD/HD. His book,
"Helping Your Hyperactive ADD Child", is the most comprehensive parent guide
in print (over 1500 topics). His "Answers to ADD: The School Success Tool
Kit" with over 125 techniques described and illustrated, is the most
comprehensive instructional video on classroom and home-based techniques to
assist children with AD/HD. His Answers to ADD series is the most
comprehensive audiotape library on this topic (12 tapes).
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Richard
Thanks for posting this, Noah.
I have a hunch that there's something here for us. Just not "Blue-Green
Algae."
My only problem is that the substance marketed as "Super Blue-Green
Algae" is, in my opinion, so wildly expensive as to be unusable by the
average person.
Yeah, I did buy some. When I saw what I got for my money, I became an
ex-customer. The proponents like to talk up how much protein it
contains. But, at that price, I can get lots more protein at
McDonalds. Like, a thousand times more protein. These folks were
flying on their own cloud, so unable to relate to their customer's
economic realities, that the only way they'd ship was FEDEX!
What I want to know is if there's a vastly less-expensive alternative,
such as Spirulina, a material that does not suffer from multi-level
marketing and an exclusive source (one end of a certain lake in
Oregon). I mean, it is blue-green, and it's algae. No?
I bought a large jar of Spirulina tablets grown in concrete tanks with
pure water and good air in the California desert. It's probably more
pure than the stuff from Oregon, which is organic: I mean, doesn't the
lake also contain fish shit. No?
Hey, why not?
Richard
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Myabee4
Aphanizomenon flos aquae(AFA) blue green algae from Klamath Lake,is somewhat
different from Spirulina inasmuch that it contains a higher amount of B12 and
protein, has a glycogen cell wall which is more readily digested (spirulina and
chlorella have a cellulose cell wall which is more difficult to digest )also to
grow spirulina in tanks as described ,it is fed artificially , AFA blue green
algae grows in abundance naturally and uses the minerals from 35 feet of
volcanic sediment
(contains over 70 minerals! )most all vitamins,all essential and non-essential
amino acids which play a very important role in brain function in a profile
that nearly matches our blood.!
see "Algae to the Rescue"by professor Karl Abrams
order from Barnes and Noble /see chapter 9
" Mood improvement and Amino acid therapy", the blue green Algae AFA is most
high in Glutamine a major neurotransmitter and,tyrosine a precursor to
dopamine,norepinephineand epinephrine
Check last chapter of "Driven to Distraction"by Edward M.Hallowell M.D the
references to Catecholmines,dopamine and the ADD brain ect:.
MarkProbe
>Thanks for posting this, Noah.
>I have a hunch that there's something here for us. Just not "Blue-Green
>Algae."
>
>My only problem is that the substance marketed as "Super Blue-Green
>Algae" is, in my opinion, so wildly expensive as to be unusable by the
>average person.
>
>Yeah, I did buy some. When I saw what I got for my money, I became an
>ex-customer. The proponents like to talk up how much protein it
>contains. But, at that price, I can get lots more protein at
>McDonalds. Like, a thousand times more protein. These folks were
>flying on their own cloud, so unable to relate to their customer's
>economic realities, that the only way they'd ship was FEDEX!
Noahdove spams dozens of newsgfroups and never answers anything.
Don't waste your time.
Mark Probert
LI, New York
I will honor the privacy of email, and expect the same.
D. C. & M. V. Sessions
Better yet, do a quick check and find out how many OTHER groups
got the same message the same day. NoahDove multiposts rather
than crosspost; that way our heckling doesn't disturb the
marks in misc.kids.*
Then, if you're going to respond, crosspost your response to
all of the target groups. THEY need the reality check much
more than ASAD does -- here we've got a much higher cluon
density.
--
D. C. & M. V. Sessions
sess...@primenet.com
MarkProbe
>Yeah, I did buy some. When I saw what I got for my money, I became an
>ex-customer. The proponents like to talk up how much protein it
>contains. But, at that price, I can get lots more protein at
>McDonalds. Like, a thousand times more protein. These folks were
>flying on their own cloud, so unable to relate to their customer's
>economic realities, that the only way they'd ship was FEDEX!
Are you aware of the fact that eating at McDonald's may cause world peace? It
is an undisputable fact that no two countries that have a McDonald's have ever
gone to war with each other.
>What I want to know is if there's a vastly less-expensive alternative,
>such as Spirulina, a material that does not suffer from multi-level
>marketing and an exclusive source (one end of a certain lake in
>Oregon). I mean, it is blue-green, and it's algae. No?
One of the lakes in Oregon that was used had a history of fish kills due to
heavy metal poisoning.
>I bought a large jar of Spirulina tablets grown in concrete tanks with
>pure water and good air in the California desert. It's probably more
>pure than the stuff from Oregon, which is organic: I mean, doesn't the
>lake also contain fish shit. No?
Yep. Also, it contains the natural fauna and flora. That's why there are two
varieties, creamy and chunky.
Posted and mailed.
Brian
> >Yeah, I did buy some. When I saw what I got for my money, I became an
> >ex-customer. The proponents like to talk up how much protein it
> >contains. But, at that price, I can get lots more protein at
> >McDonalds. Like, a thousand times more protein. These folks were
> >flying on their own cloud, so unable to relate to their customer's
> >economic realities, that the only way they'd ship was FEDEX!
>
> Oh but you do know that those people are soooo "in tune" with nature and all
> kind rain bow brother..
Any way I agree, I live in Oregon, A few months back I knot iced an article in
a local free publication for the homeless,it was for blue green algae. It was
basically saying that you may not have the money to get the proper food that you
may need but buy some of this stuff!
I had a room mate who's father was way up in the Klamath Blue green algae company,
Like he was one of the guys that started the whole thing. He was allot like one of
those rich new age types that are running all over the place. I swear there is a
new age book store or health food store on every corner In Eugene. Though the
smell of the incense ,oils and the quiet earth chime music that they play helps me
with my ADD. Just a few shelves up from the Blue Green Pond slime there may be a
couple good books on meditation or yoga that may be of moor practical use.
> >>I bought a large jar of Spirulina tablets grown in concrete tanks with
> >pure water and good air in the California desert. It's probably more
> >pure than the stuff from Oregon, which is organic: I mean, doesn't the
> >lake also contain fish shit. No?
Oh but the Organ fish shit is certified organic, " Natural is better" ;)
>
>
It makes youre hair grow longer
> :)
> Around allot of those lakes there are hot springs that have somthing in them or
> somthing about them that will make me have this unbelevable moment of......I get
> real focused and realxed. This only happens when there are no people around and
> I have the place to my self. It doesn't work with a hot tub but in the spings I
> could sware that there is some thing in the water that helps me focus. I get so
> focused and I feel soo good untill some blue green algae user comes up the trail
> and stats beating on one of those drums that they carry with them. ;)
> Sorry, I coulden't resist having been Eugene for the last 9 years I have seen it
> all, You name it what evere the thing is they have it and allot of it will just
> empty youre wallet.
Oh yea I really don't have long hair.
Brian
Richard
Thanks, Myabee
I remember that the "Spirulina from desert vats" company has a
proprietary method for pre-breaking the cell walls so that the goodies
can be digested. I bought a bulk jarfull of chlorella/spirulina
tablets from a place in San Rafael, CA, a few years ago.
It is important to me that if there are any benefits from "Super
Blue-Green Algae," (a trade mark), that we find an alternative source.
Most people simply cannot begin to afford this multi-level-marketed
product. In my opinion, SBGA is somewhat of a scam, designed to wildly
inflate the price of a simple commodity.
Can you help shed some light on a way that we may obtain a product that
will provide the same practical results (perhaps with a 99 instead of
100% match)? Honestly, regarding their protein boasts, if a human's
protein needs were to be filled by SBGA, I'd have to hock my entire life
many times over to pay for this stuff.
Richared
Myabee4 wrote:
a glycogen cell wall which is more readily digested (spirulina and
> chlorella have a cellulose cell wall which is more difficult to digest
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Myabee4
>Thanks, Myabee
>
>I remember that the "Spirulina from desert vats" company has a
>proprietary method for pre-breaking the cell walls so that the goodies
>can be digested. I bought a bulk jarfull of chlorella/spirulina
>tablets from a place in San Rafael, CA, a few years ago
.
Karl Abrams (available from Barnes and Noble bookstores,you'll learn more about
the Long chain fatty acids, and about the glycogen cell wall of AFA,ect: It's
avery informative book.
>It is important to me that if there are any benefits from "Super
>Blue-Green Algae," (a trade mark), that we find an alternative source.
>Most people simply cannot begin to afford this multi-level-marketed
>product. In my opinion, SBGA is somewhat of a scam, designed to wildly
>inflate the price of a simple commodity
I used to work in a health food store, and my middle daughter works as a
manager in a major CA health food store,from my own experience, the prices are
comparable to any excellent plant based foods plus the company has a 90 day
money back guarantee!so that people mostly continue if they have a good result,
as with everthing some do ,some don't (same with meds).
The company who I buy my AFA algae products from puts an enormous amount of
money into their harvesting site,Independant Laboratory Testings which are
rigorous, they exceed Canadian standards which are higher than the U.S I
believe..Each batch is tested Bacterial Analyses 35-45 times per
batch,Toxicity Analyses every batch ect; Does'nt sound like this is for you,
but many thousands are having palpable results.!
>
>Can you help shed some light on a way that we may obtain a product that
>will provide the same practical results (perhaps with a 99 instead of
>100% match)? Honestly, regarding their protein boasts, if a human's
>protein needs were to be filled by SBGA, I'd have to hock my entire life
>many times over to pay for this stuff
Richared
myabee wrote
Sorry can't help you ! the AFA algae is only found in one very high alkaline
large shallow lake, about 140 square miles, it does not float on the
surface,contrary to our notable "pond scum scientists on this board,it is
dense IN the water, and is moving all the time,it feeds on a 35ft mineral rich
volcanic deposit at the bottom of the lake"It's the largest Bio mass producer
of this algae on the planet.!(That is for a non-toxic variety of AFA)
you get what you pay for! Price is comparable to any high quality plant
products in health food stores, .
>
>
>Spirulina has a cellulose cell wall, and Aphonizomenon flos Aquae AFA has a
glycogen cell membrane.
>
Glygogen is important for liver function,see info in book on the unusual
flexible cell membrane.!!!
John Palmer
On 28 Apr 1998 20:24:18 GMT, mya...@aol.com (Myabee4) wrote:
>I used to work in a health food store, and my middle daughter works as a
>manager in a major CA health food store,from my own experience, the prices are
>comparable to any excellent plant based foods plus the company has a 90 day
>money back guarantee!so that people mostly continue if they have a good result,
>as with everthing some do ,some don't (same with meds).
The difference, of course, being that with meds, it *MUST* be
shown that more people respond to the meds than to a placebo. With
"nutritional supplements" no such thing needs to be shown.
"Try my new ProfitPills! They might help, but if they don't,
well, NOTHING works for EVERYONE."
--
Everything I needed to know in life, I learned in kindergarten. Like: always
keep a test PC with a network card and crossover cable available for testing new network clients.
Myabee4
>From: jpal...@ix.netcom.com (John Palmer)
>Everything I needed to know in life, I learned in kindergarten
That is perfectly obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.> Like: always keep a test PC with a network card
to play noughts and crosses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> and crossover cable available
to tie up kitty??????????????Prrrh!
> for testing new network clients.
soooo! you had clients in kindergarten< you naughty boy!!!!!!!!!
MAY WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU DO TO TEST OUT NEW
NETWORK CLIENTS? WITH YOUR TEST PC AND BITS AND PIECES,WHAT ARE YOU ABLE TO
DO??? WITH ALL THIS STUFF ?????GO ON DO TELL,DO. IS IT FUN?