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Sheldon
Apr 2, 2013, 3:39:37 PM4/2/13
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With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume everybody
is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
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Diane
Apr 2, 2013, 5:44:08 PM4/2/13
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"Sheldon" <she...@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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posts. :-(
Diane
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> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume everybody
> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
That is a very good question, Sheldon. :-) Where IS everyone? I miss the
> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
posts. :-(
Diane
David Chamberlain
Apr 2, 2013, 6:24:40 PM4/2/13
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On 4/2/2013 12:39 PM, Sheldon wrote:
> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume everybody
> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
I think what you're seeing is symptomatic of Usenet in general. I
> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume everybody
> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
monitor 9 groups now, including this one, and usable posts in every one
of them has dropped significantly over the years, such that many of them
have attained zero.
I remember when I first signed up with an ISP. It was in the early 90's
and it was with IBM Internet services (ibm.net). It was the default ISP
with a dialer pre-installed on OS/2, that I was playing with as a PC OS
at the time. They sold out to AT&T and became AT&T Global networks, then
eventually were renamed to AT&T Business Solutions. I still have an
account with them.
Anyway, at that time, when you signed up, you were given your POP3 and
SMTP (email) servers, and NNTP (Usenet) server names. The ISP maintained
these services themselves. Usenet and email software was part of the OS.
It was a given that you would use it. And everyone did.
Today, many ISP's don't even offer Usenet. The ones that do are usually
contracting with a large Usenet provider like Giganews and while they
offer it, they certainly don't make it known. I've searched to see if my
ISP offers Usenet and I cannot find anything.
The larger commercial providers like Giganews do little if any spam
filtering. At least that is how it was when I last tried to use one. You
don't see that here because it is moderated. I don't see much spam
because I still pay up the 10 euro's for Individual.net. But many of the
old school Usenet users are giving it up because even if there is usable
content in a group, it's next to impossible to find it amongst the spam.
As the new generation has been growing up and getting online, not even
aware that Usenet exists, the older generation slowly is dropping away.
Usenet is becoming less used. It has slowly been supplanted by web
forums, Yahoo and Google groups, MSN, etc.
I see a day when Usenet will be gone completely. I believe it is
unfortunate. But I do believe it is inevitable.
--
David Chamberlain
Mary
Apr 2, 2013, 7:59:47 PM4/2/13
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"Sheldon" <she...@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
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> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume everybody
> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
I don't think everybody is better now Sheldon. They've just moved to
> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
somewhere else.
Mary
Mary
Apr 2, 2013, 8:01:03 PM4/2/13
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"David Chamberlain" <chamberl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Outlook Express mail/news and use POP3 and SMTP servers and NNTP Usenet
server. My ISP dropped Usenet several years ago but I continued reading and
participating in newsgroups using a free news server.There are still some
free news servers around but as you say, many groups either have very few
posts or none..
> Today, many ISP's don't even offer Usenet. The ones that do are usually
> contracting with a large Usenet provider like Giganews and while they
> offer it, they certainly don't make it known. I've searched to see if my
> ISP offers Usenet and I cannot find anything.
It's been that way quite a long time.
> The larger commercial providers like Giganews do little if any spam
> filtering. At least that is how it was when I last tried to use one. You
> don't see that here because it is moderated. I don't see much spam because
> I still pay up the 10 euro's for Individual.net. But many of the old
> school Usenet users are giving it up because even if there is usable
> content in a group, it's next to impossible to find it amongst the spam.
>
> As the new generation has been growing up and getting online, not even
> aware that Usenet exists, the older generation slowly is dropping away.
> Usenet is becoming less used. It has slowly been supplanted by web forums,
> Yahoo and Google groups, MSN, etc.
Even when Usenet was popular, many people did not know that Usenet existed
even back then. I can't see anything great about social media groups. Usenet
was good in many ways. There was so much choice in groups of every kind and
you could go to groups and discuss certain subjects you had in common with
the people who posted or lurked in those groups. I sometimes go on Yahoo
forums, and the subjects are more to do with current events of the day and
stating whether you agree or not and giving your opinion. Its not the same
as Usenet where people came to discuss a certain subject or looked for help
or advice. You could do that here in this group and it could make your life
better to find out what others with the same problem as you did to cope with
anxiety-panic and other problems and self improvement. A newsgroup was more
personal and you saw the same people there all the time. I go to Facebook
and I don't see what people see in it. Same with Twitter. Those places have
their place, but why is Usenet going out of style. I still see room for it
and Facebook, twitter, etc. But I guess people got tired of newsgroups and
wanted something new. Well, they have it now.
> I see a day when Usenet will be gone completely. I believe it is
> unfortunate. But I do believe it is inevitable.
Yes, it's unfortunately but you are right. Discussing certain subjects is
fading out and new interests are replacing them. I thought they might
co-exist for a while, but that doesn't seem to be the case which is too bad.
Mary
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> On 4/2/2013 12:39 PM, Sheldon wrote:
>> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
>> everybody
>> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>
> I think what you're seeing is symptomatic of Usenet in general. I monitor
> 9 groups now, including this one, and usable posts in every one of them
> has dropped significantly over the years, such that many of them have
> attained zero.
>
> I remember when I first signed up with an ISP. It was in the early 90's
> and it was with IBM Internet services (ibm.net). It was the default ISP
> with a dialer pre-installed on OS/2, that I was playing with as a PC OS at
> the time. They sold out to AT&T and became AT&T Global networks, then
> eventually were renamed to AT&T Business Solutions. I still have an
> account with them.
>
> Anyway, at that time, when you signed up, you were given your POP3 and
> SMTP (email) servers, and NNTP (Usenet) server names. The ISP maintained
> these services themselves. Usenet and email software was part of the OS.
> It was a given that you would use it. And everyone did.
Hi David, a long time since you posted here. I use Win XP and still use
>> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
>> everybody
>> is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>
> I think what you're seeing is symptomatic of Usenet in general. I monitor
> 9 groups now, including this one, and usable posts in every one of them
> has dropped significantly over the years, such that many of them have
> attained zero.
>
> I remember when I first signed up with an ISP. It was in the early 90's
> and it was with IBM Internet services (ibm.net). It was the default ISP
> with a dialer pre-installed on OS/2, that I was playing with as a PC OS at
> the time. They sold out to AT&T and became AT&T Global networks, then
> eventually were renamed to AT&T Business Solutions. I still have an
> account with them.
>
> Anyway, at that time, when you signed up, you were given your POP3 and
> SMTP (email) servers, and NNTP (Usenet) server names. The ISP maintained
> these services themselves. Usenet and email software was part of the OS.
> It was a given that you would use it. And everyone did.
Outlook Express mail/news and use POP3 and SMTP servers and NNTP Usenet
server. My ISP dropped Usenet several years ago but I continued reading and
participating in newsgroups using a free news server.There are still some
free news servers around but as you say, many groups either have very few
posts or none..
> Today, many ISP's don't even offer Usenet. The ones that do are usually
> contracting with a large Usenet provider like Giganews and while they
> offer it, they certainly don't make it known. I've searched to see if my
> ISP offers Usenet and I cannot find anything.
> The larger commercial providers like Giganews do little if any spam
> filtering. At least that is how it was when I last tried to use one. You
> don't see that here because it is moderated. I don't see much spam because
> I still pay up the 10 euro's for Individual.net. But many of the old
> school Usenet users are giving it up because even if there is usable
> content in a group, it's next to impossible to find it amongst the spam.
>
> As the new generation has been growing up and getting online, not even
> aware that Usenet exists, the older generation slowly is dropping away.
> Usenet is becoming less used. It has slowly been supplanted by web forums,
> Yahoo and Google groups, MSN, etc.
even back then. I can't see anything great about social media groups. Usenet
was good in many ways. There was so much choice in groups of every kind and
you could go to groups and discuss certain subjects you had in common with
the people who posted or lurked in those groups. I sometimes go on Yahoo
forums, and the subjects are more to do with current events of the day and
stating whether you agree or not and giving your opinion. Its not the same
as Usenet where people came to discuss a certain subject or looked for help
or advice. You could do that here in this group and it could make your life
better to find out what others with the same problem as you did to cope with
anxiety-panic and other problems and self improvement. A newsgroup was more
personal and you saw the same people there all the time. I go to Facebook
and I don't see what people see in it. Same with Twitter. Those places have
their place, but why is Usenet going out of style. I still see room for it
and Facebook, twitter, etc. But I guess people got tired of newsgroups and
wanted something new. Well, they have it now.
> I see a day when Usenet will be gone completely. I believe it is
> unfortunate. But I do believe it is inevitable.
fading out and new interests are replacing them. I thought they might
co-exist for a while, but that doesn't seem to be the case which is too bad.
Mary
Sheldon
Apr 3, 2013, 7:31:02 PM4/3/13
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activity there is not very good. A post here, a post there and maybe some
input from a moderator and that's about it.
Dennis
Apr 22, 2013, 2:01:50 AM4/22/13
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Sheldon wrote:
> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
> everybody is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>
Hi Sheldon! I haven't been better. In fact I spent Mar 31 - Apr 2 in the
> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
> everybody is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>
hospital, due to very high blood pressure (200/100) and a lot of shortness
of breath.
My pdoc is taking it slow, since I also have edema in my legs (swollen with
fluid). My BP and legs are a lot better now, tho still not mormal.
Also, I'm transitioning to a new computer. I wss off my news server for a
while (payment trouble), and I'm having to install a lot of new things on
the new machine; it's very nice.
Dennis
Philip Peters
Apr 22, 2013, 5:35:57 AM4/22/13
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Op 22-4-2013 8:01, Dennis schreef:
doubling my betablocker dose. I wear *eleastic stockings* for edema to
avoid thrombosis. Unfortunately I also have *atrial fibrillation* and am
now also on a blood diluting med called Marcoumar. I have to lose a lot
of weight and am trying to do that (for the second time *&^%, stupid
victim of the *yoyo-effect* that I am) by way of drinking three shakes a
day to a total of 450 calories. I lost 20 lbs in thre weeks (or is it
four weeks already, I forget). Every four days I cycle to the nearest
hospital to have my blood checked. As a matter of fact I'll go there
right after having written this message. I'll see a cardiologist on May
17th. All this has made my anxiety, which had been more or less
stabilized for years, go through the roof, I'm feelin dizzy and scared
and derealization and all those othet lovely symptoms are back in full
glory. Medical procedures and hospitals are my *number one* trigger so
this is going to be fun. For nasty tests they will have to knock me out
cold or I'll be getting hysterical and can't let them do their *thing*,
which won't help much. My fear is that they're not prepared to do me
that favour. Oh well.....the sun is out, it may finally become spring in
the Netherlands!
Philip
> Sheldon wrote:
>
>> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
>> everybody is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>>
>
> Hi Sheldon! I haven't been better. In fact I spent Mar 31 - Apr 2 in the
> hospital, due to very high blood pressure (200/100) and a lot of shortness
> of breath.
>
> My pdoc is taking it slow, since I also have edema in my legs (swollen with
> fluid). My BP and legs are a lot better now, tho still not mormal.
Hey, I have that too though my blood pressure is now normal because of
>
>> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
>> everybody is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>>
>
> Hi Sheldon! I haven't been better. In fact I spent Mar 31 - Apr 2 in the
> hospital, due to very high blood pressure (200/100) and a lot of shortness
> of breath.
>
> My pdoc is taking it slow, since I also have edema in my legs (swollen with
> fluid). My BP and legs are a lot better now, tho still not mormal.
doubling my betablocker dose. I wear *eleastic stockings* for edema to
avoid thrombosis. Unfortunately I also have *atrial fibrillation* and am
now also on a blood diluting med called Marcoumar. I have to lose a lot
of weight and am trying to do that (for the second time *&^%, stupid
victim of the *yoyo-effect* that I am) by way of drinking three shakes a
day to a total of 450 calories. I lost 20 lbs in thre weeks (or is it
four weeks already, I forget). Every four days I cycle to the nearest
hospital to have my blood checked. As a matter of fact I'll go there
right after having written this message. I'll see a cardiologist on May
17th. All this has made my anxiety, which had been more or less
stabilized for years, go through the roof, I'm feelin dizzy and scared
and derealization and all those othet lovely symptoms are back in full
glory. Medical procedures and hospitals are my *number one* trigger so
this is going to be fun. For nasty tests they will have to knock me out
cold or I'll be getting hysterical and can't let them do their *thing*,
which won't help much. My fear is that they're not prepared to do me
that favour. Oh well.....the sun is out, it may finally become spring in
the Netherlands!
Philip
Diane Meng
Apr 22, 2013, 12:06:24 PM4/22/13
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"Philip Peters" wrote in message
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I am so sorry to hear this Philip. :-( I'm hoping your docs will knock you
out before they do anything to you. They most likely will so pleas try to
relax a least a little bit. Health issues, hospital stays, blood tests,
etc., are triggers for many of us anxiety sufferers. You are not alone and
never will be. :-) Just please keep us updated.
Yeah, the sun was out here yesterday and again today. Yipeeeee! LOL
Hugs,
Diane
news:5174f668$0$2190$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl...
out before they do anything to you. They most likely will so pleas try to
relax a least a little bit. Health issues, hospital stays, blood tests,
etc., are triggers for many of us anxiety sufferers. You are not alone and
never will be. :-) Just please keep us updated.
Yeah, the sun was out here yesterday and again today. Yipeeeee! LOL
Hugs,
Diane
Diane Meng
Apr 22, 2013, 12:06:36 PM4/22/13
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"Dennis" wrote in message
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Sheldon wrote:
> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
> everybody is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>
Hi Sheldon! I haven't been better. In fact I spent Mar 31 - Apr 2 in the
hospital, due to very high blood pressure (200/100) and a lot of shortness
of breath.
My pdoc is taking it slow, since I also have edema in my legs (swollen with
fluid). My BP and legs are a lot better now, tho still not mormal.
Also, I'm transitioning to a new computer. I wss off my news server for a
while (payment trouble), and I'm having to install a lot of new things on
the new machine; it's very nice.
Dennis
So sorry to hear you were back in the hospital, Dennis. :-( Your BP must
be lower now and I'm glad for that. Do you elevate your legs throughout the
day and night? That might get rid of the edema. I hope so. Well, I'm glad
to hear that you have a new computer and enjoying it. :-) I also have a
new one and am learning more as I go. LOL Take care!
Hugs,
Diane
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Sheldon wrote:
> With the lack of activity on this message board I have to assume
> everybody is all better now. Yes? Better living through chemistry?
>
Hi Sheldon! I haven't been better. In fact I spent Mar 31 - Apr 2 in the
hospital, due to very high blood pressure (200/100) and a lot of shortness
of breath.
My pdoc is taking it slow, since I also have edema in my legs (swollen with
fluid). My BP and legs are a lot better now, tho still not mormal.
Also, I'm transitioning to a new computer. I wss off my news server for a
while (payment trouble), and I'm having to install a lot of new things on
the new machine; it's very nice.
Dennis
be lower now and I'm glad for that. Do you elevate your legs throughout the
day and night? That might get rid of the edema. I hope so. Well, I'm glad
to hear that you have a new computer and enjoying it. :-) I also have a
new one and am learning more as I go. LOL Take care!
Hugs,
Diane
Mary
Apr 22, 2013, 3:14:42 PM4/22/13
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"Philip Peters" <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote in message
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Hi old friend Philip, I know exactly how you feel. Medical procedures and
hospitals give me much anxiety too and even thinking I might have to go
there makes me feel dizzy and have derealization. I can tolerate some
hospital tests, but for some I don't like the sound of, I would have to be
put out. I have had sinus infection for weeks and had antibiotics but still
there and it is possible I may need to go to the hospital soon which I
dread. You have to watch atrial fibilliration and it's good you have a
cardiologist. I am not familiar with the blood clotting med you take for it.
I take coumadin a blood thinner, due to having an artificial heart valve I
have had for 18 years. I get my blood checked every month, or sooner, if it
is not the level it is supposed to be. It sounds like you are going through
a lot of health issues which is not like you. It sounds like you are doing
all you can to help yourself. I hope things improve for you soon.
:)
Mary
news:5174f668$0$2190$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl...
hospitals give me much anxiety too and even thinking I might have to go
there makes me feel dizzy and have derealization. I can tolerate some
hospital tests, but for some I don't like the sound of, I would have to be
put out. I have had sinus infection for weeks and had antibiotics but still
there and it is possible I may need to go to the hospital soon which I
dread. You have to watch atrial fibilliration and it's good you have a
cardiologist. I am not familiar with the blood clotting med you take for it.
I take coumadin a blood thinner, due to having an artificial heart valve I
have had for 18 years. I get my blood checked every month, or sooner, if it
is not the level it is supposed to be. It sounds like you are going through
a lot of health issues which is not like you. It sounds like you are doing
all you can to help yourself. I hope things improve for you soon.
:)
Mary
Philip Peters
Apr 24, 2013, 2:09:56 PM4/24/13
to
Op 22-4-2013 21:14, Mary schreef:
Medical procedures and
>> hospitals are my *number one* trigger so this is going to be fun. For
>> nasty tests they will have to knock me out cold or I'll be getting
>> hysterical and can't let them do their *thing*, which won't help much. My
>> fear is that they're not prepared to do me that favour. Oh well.....the
>> sun is out, it may finally become spring in the Netherlands!
>>
>> Philip
>
> Hi old friend Philip, I know exactly how you feel. Medical procedures and
> hospitals give me much anxiety too and even thinking I might have to go
> there makes me feel dizzy and have derealization.
Exactly. I found this is hard to explain to people, that it's (cuz IMO
it is) the more or less *normal* anticipation nervousness *plus* the
totally irrational fear that anxiety sufferers experience, with
different symtoms such as you describe.
I can tolerate some
> hospital tests, but for some I don't like the sound of, I would have to be
> put out. I have had sinus infection for weeks and had antibiotics but still
> there and it is possible I may need to go to the hospital soon which I
> dread.
Shall I come with you? To the hospital for a sinus infection, Mary?
Maybe they'll just gieve you sme more (or different) antibiotics.
They'll do the trick. Also antibiotics keep working for a week or so
after you stopped taking them, and you're stil on the scheduled dose, so
maybe you won't have to d anything but wait it out.
You have to watch atrial fibilliration and it's good you have a
> cardiologist. I am not familiar with the blood clotting med you take for it.
It's *fenprocoumon*. They prefer it here over coumadin for some rerason
while in the Anglo-Saxon world it's the opposite. They're closely
related, fencropoumon is longer-acting but basically they do the same
thing. My doctor told me that shortly a new blood thinning med will be
approved which basically regulates itself and whe you're taking it you
don't have to have your blood checked all the time.
> I take coumadin a blood thinner, due to having an artificial heart valve I
> have had for 18 years.
WOW! How did you manage to survive that, you had *open heart surgery*;
it anything is scary.....it's my worse case scenario (it *is* possible
that my a-fib is a symptom of a leaking valve.
I had an uncle who had a pig's valve. Do you have a pig's one too or a
synthetic one? My uncle used to joke about this not being *kosher* (he
couldn't care less) and actually there was some discussion about this
but in the end even extremely orthodox Jews decided that it was
acceptable, they make an exception when one's life is in danger.
I get my blood checked every month, or sooner, if it
> is not the level it is supposed to be. It sounds like you are going through
> a lot of health issues which is not like you.
Quite unlike me indeed. The late Mrs. Peters didn't raise her first-born
son for things like this ;-)
I also had a cancer scare a few weeks ago when my wife discovered a
weird-looking black spot on my behind which looked suspiciously like a
*melanome* (an agressive skin cancer which spreads easily). My GP wasn't
sure, he felt it might also have been a *hematoma* and after another
week it turned out to be just that and I got another just one below my
knee. I don't remember any *trauma* from bruising. My blood was *too
thin* for a while (it takes some time to find the right balance with
these meds and even then this can happen) and I appear to have developed
*spontaneous* hematomas..... these blood thinners are tricky stuff -
just imagine having a brain haemorrhage which indeed is a potential side
effect. I prefer not to think too much about that.
It sounds like you are doing
> all you can to help yourself. I hope things improve for you soon.
Thank you, Mary. My anxiety, which has been more or less stabilized for
year, is totally up again, maybe I should raise my Xanax dose but I
don't feel much like doing that, I have a healthy respect for this med.
An *artifical valve*..... you should have gotten an award for courage!
Philip
Medical procedures and
>> hospitals are my *number one* trigger so this is going to be fun. For
>> nasty tests they will have to knock me out cold or I'll be getting
>> hysterical and can't let them do their *thing*, which won't help much. My
>> fear is that they're not prepared to do me that favour. Oh well.....the
>> sun is out, it may finally become spring in the Netherlands!
>>
>> Philip
>
> Hi old friend Philip, I know exactly how you feel. Medical procedures and
> hospitals give me much anxiety too and even thinking I might have to go
> there makes me feel dizzy and have derealization.
it is) the more or less *normal* anticipation nervousness *plus* the
totally irrational fear that anxiety sufferers experience, with
different symtoms such as you describe.
I can tolerate some
> hospital tests, but for some I don't like the sound of, I would have to be
> put out. I have had sinus infection for weeks and had antibiotics but still
> there and it is possible I may need to go to the hospital soon which I
> dread.
Maybe they'll just gieve you sme more (or different) antibiotics.
They'll do the trick. Also antibiotics keep working for a week or so
after you stopped taking them, and you're stil on the scheduled dose, so
maybe you won't have to d anything but wait it out.
You have to watch atrial fibilliration and it's good you have a
> cardiologist. I am not familiar with the blood clotting med you take for it.
while in the Anglo-Saxon world it's the opposite. They're closely
related, fencropoumon is longer-acting but basically they do the same
thing. My doctor told me that shortly a new blood thinning med will be
approved which basically regulates itself and whe you're taking it you
don't have to have your blood checked all the time.
> I take coumadin a blood thinner, due to having an artificial heart valve I
> have had for 18 years.
it anything is scary.....it's my worse case scenario (it *is* possible
that my a-fib is a symptom of a leaking valve.
I had an uncle who had a pig's valve. Do you have a pig's one too or a
synthetic one? My uncle used to joke about this not being *kosher* (he
couldn't care less) and actually there was some discussion about this
but in the end even extremely orthodox Jews decided that it was
acceptable, they make an exception when one's life is in danger.
I get my blood checked every month, or sooner, if it
> is not the level it is supposed to be. It sounds like you are going through
> a lot of health issues which is not like you.
son for things like this ;-)
I also had a cancer scare a few weeks ago when my wife discovered a
weird-looking black spot on my behind which looked suspiciously like a
*melanome* (an agressive skin cancer which spreads easily). My GP wasn't
sure, he felt it might also have been a *hematoma* and after another
week it turned out to be just that and I got another just one below my
knee. I don't remember any *trauma* from bruising. My blood was *too
thin* for a while (it takes some time to find the right balance with
these meds and even then this can happen) and I appear to have developed
*spontaneous* hematomas..... these blood thinners are tricky stuff -
just imagine having a brain haemorrhage which indeed is a potential side
effect. I prefer not to think too much about that.
It sounds like you are doing
> all you can to help yourself. I hope things improve for you soon.
year, is totally up again, maybe I should raise my Xanax dose but I
don't feel much like doing that, I have a healthy respect for this med.
An *artifical valve*..... you should have gotten an award for courage!
Philip
Mary
Apr 29, 2013, 8:09:21 PM4/29/13
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"Philip Peters" <phi...@p-peters.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:517811da$0$15918$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl...
> Op 22-4-2013 21:14, Mary schreef:
>
> Medical procedures and
>>> hospitals are my *number one* trigger so this is going to be fun. For
>>> nasty tests they will have to knock me out cold or I'll be getting
>>> hysterical and can't let them do their *thing*, which won't help much.
>>> My
>>> fear is that they're not prepared to do me that favour. Oh well.....the
>>> sun is out, it may finally become spring in the Netherlands!
>>>
>>> Philip
>
>>
>> Hi old friend Philip, I know exactly how you feel. Medical procedures and
>> hospitals give me much anxiety too and even thinking I might have to go
>> there makes me feel dizzy and have derealization.
> Exactly. I found this is hard to explain to people, that it's (cuz IMO it
> is) the more or less *normal* anticipation nervousness *plus* the totally
> irrational fear that anxiety sufferers experience, with different symtoms
> such as you describe.
I don't bother trying to explain any anxiety symptoms to anyone as they have
>
> Medical procedures and
>>> hospitals are my *number one* trigger so this is going to be fun. For
>>> nasty tests they will have to knock me out cold or I'll be getting
>>> hysterical and can't let them do their *thing*, which won't help much.
>>> My
>>> fear is that they're not prepared to do me that favour. Oh well.....the
>>> sun is out, it may finally become spring in the Netherlands!
>>>
>>> Philip
>
>>
>> Hi old friend Philip, I know exactly how you feel. Medical procedures and
>> hospitals give me much anxiety too and even thinking I might have to go
>> there makes me feel dizzy and have derealization.
> Exactly. I found this is hard to explain to people, that it's (cuz IMO it
> is) the more or less *normal* anticipation nervousness *plus* the totally
> irrational fear that anxiety sufferers experience, with different symtoms
> such as you describe.
no idea what you mean and before I had any anxiety symptoms, I wouldn't have
known either. I usually only have anxiety in certain situations such as
sometimes when I am driving. that happens because I had severe vertigo when
driving about 8 years ago and developed some anxiety symptoms such as
feeling faint when I drove and anxious when I had to stop at traffic lights.
I still have that, but sometimes its worse than others. I usually manage to
distract myself from thinking about when is this traffic light going to
change to green, but not always. Before I had vertigo when driving, it did
not bother me to drive most places. I still drive, though not as far as I
used to before I had vertigo. Usually it is certain experiences causing me
to be anxious which can turn into anxiety attacks.
> I can tolerate some
>> hospital tests, but for some I don't like the sound of, I would have to
>> be
>> put out. I have had sinus infection for weeks and had antibiotics but
>> still
>> there and it is possible I may need to go to the hospital soon which I
>> dread.
> Shall I come with you? To the hospital for a sinus infection, Mary?
where you drink some chalky stuff to make Xrays of the esophagus and throat
show up better.
> Maybe they'll just gieve you sme more (or different) antibiotics. They'll
> do the trick. Also antibiotics keep working for a week or so after you
> stopped taking them, and you're stil on the scheduled dose, so maybe you
> won't have to d anything but wait it out.
infection. In fact, sinus problems are often not bacterial which would make
antibiotics effective but can help secondary infections, so the doctor felt
a course of antibiotics might help, but now she doesn't think it would help
to take any more. Last week, she prescribed steroid nasal spray once a day
and
indigestion pills, to see if that can clear things up. Sinus is really a
miserable thing. I never had it before, and hope it goes away, though I have
read several times that it has a tendency to come back.
> You have to watch atrial fibilliration and it's good you have a
>> cardiologist. I am not familiar with the blood clotting med you take for
>> it.
> It's *fenprocoumon*. They prefer it here over coumadin for some rerason
> while in the Anglo-Saxon world it's the opposite. They're closely related,
> fencropoumon is longer-acting but basically they do the same thing. My
> doctor told me that shortly a new blood thinning med will be approved
> which basically regulates itself and whe you're taking it you don't have
> to have your blood checked all the time.
of Marcourac?) Its used in a few European countries -Netherlands and in
Brazil. They brought out a new blood thinner in the U.S. not too long ago
but I
don't know if it was ever on the market and I haven't heard any more about
it. Coumadin (warfarin generic name) is the usual drug used for an
anticoagulant in Canada and the U.S. Most large pharmaceutical companies are
in the U.S though there are a few in Canada as well. Coumadin has had the
monopoly in North American for the last 40 or 50 years so it's been well
tested. I have taken it for a long time and have to get my blood tested once
a month or sooner, if my blood is too thick or thin. Blood level is very
important so has to be checked regularly.
>> I take coumadin a blood thinner, due to having an artificial heart valve
>> I
>> have had for 18 years.
>
>
> WOW! How did you manage to survive that, you had *open heart surgery*; it
> anything is scary.....it's my worse case scenario (it *is* possible that
> my a-fib is a symptom of a leaking valve.
echocardiograms? you would get those regularly if your cardiologist thinks
you may need a valve replacd or repaired? which valve is it? aortic or
mitral? You would manage to get through it if you had to. I managed because
I wouldn'tbe living long if I didnt have surgery, so when you think of it
that way, it didn't bother me too much to know I would have to get it done.
I didn't have a lot of choice.
I did not have anxiety much at the time I got heart surgery. I was still
"youngish" and did not have much anxiety about getting a heart valve. One of
the reasons was because I knew I would have to get an artificial heart valve
in my lifetime because a narrowing of my aortic valve was detected 5 years
before I had heart surgery. I got an echocardiogram once a year for a few
years, then once every 6 months. eventually I had a few symptoms and I knew
it was time for surgery.
> I had an uncle who had a pig's valve. Do you have a pig's one too or a
> synthetic one? My uncle used to joke about this not being *kosher* (he
> couldn't care less) and actually there was some discussion about this but
> in the end even extremely orthodox Jews decided that it was acceptable,
> they make an exception when one's life is in danger.
It was a while ago when I had heart surgery, so I was quite a lot younger
when I got my aortic heart valve replaced and got
a mechanical heart valve. The surgeon said it was more often better to have
for someone 60 or younger, as mechanical valve usually lasts 30 years, and
is recommended for "younger" people so they may not need surgery again in
their lifetime. Pigs valves are chosen by people over 65. You don't need to
get blood tests or take blood thinner.
Yes, heart valve replacement is open heart surgery as they take the old
valve out and sew an artificial one in. Sometimes heart valves can be
repaired, though more often have to be replaced if narrowed or leaky. Heart
bypass surgery is different where they take a vein to find a new route to
the heart.
> I get my blood checked every month, or sooner, if it
>> is not the level it is supposed to be. It sounds like you are going
>> through a lot of health issues which is not like you.
> Quite unlike me indeed. The late Mrs. Peters didn't raise her first-born
> son for things like this ;-)
> I also had a cancer scare a few weeks ago when my wife discovered a
> weird-looking black spot on my behind which looked suspiciously like a
> *melanome* (an agressive skin cancer which spreads easily). My GP wasn't
> sure, he felt it might also have been a *hematoma* and after another week
> it turned out to be just that and I got another just one below my knee. I
> don't remember any *trauma* from bruising. My blood was *too thin* for a
> while (it takes some time to find the right balance with these meds and
> even then this can happen) and I appear to have developed *spontaneous*
> hematomas..... these blood thinners are tricky stuff - just imagine having
> a brain haemorrhage which indeed is a potential side effect. I prefer not
> to think too much about that.
doctor gets the results and phones me to tell me what the reading was, then
I figure out if my dosage is too high or low, I adjust it a little higher or
lower. The margin is very narrow with blood thinner medication, but we are
lucky to have them.
> It sounds like you are doing
>> all you can to help yourself. I hope things improve for you soon.
> Thank you, Mary. My anxiety, which has been more or less stabilized for
> year, is totally up again, maybe I should raise my Xanax dose but I don't
> feel much like doing that, I have a healthy respect for this med.
> An *artifical valve*..... you should have gotten an award for courage!
for such things. They never used to years ago. It saves your life. I need a
hip replacement and to me, it would be worse than getting a heart valve as
far as how long it takes you to recover. the rehabilitation period for hip
replacements is long and takes ages to walk properly again and worry about
hip disclocation. With a heart valve, you get the surgery and just have to
rest for the next 6 months and you feel ok again.
Also, I was a lot younger when I had heart surgery, but not now - there is a
difference :)
Mary
turntur...@gmail.com
Dec 29, 2014, 6:30:03 PM12/29/14
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the same thing as the internet. Maybe it depends on where you live?
sple...@yahoo.com
Dec 30, 2014, 2:40:02 AM12/30/14
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UseNet is the news groups you are on right now -- it is now a part of the
Internet, but it goes back farther to good ole UCCP dial-up (if you don't
know what that is it's because you aren't as old as I am ;) It has since
also incorporated the IBM bitnet discussion groups also. They were
originally part of the IBM network back when SNA was the network
architecture of choice.
Hope this helps explain.
Shawn Legrand
sple...@yahoo.com
lux lucet in tenebris
Internet, but it goes back farther to good ole UCCP dial-up (if you don't
know what that is it's because you aren't as old as I am ;) It has since
also incorporated the IBM bitnet discussion groups also. They were
originally part of the IBM network back when SNA was the network
architecture of choice.
Hope this helps explain.
sple...@yahoo.com
lux lucet in tenebris
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