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jim chivers
Glenn Woodell
wrote:
>looking for someone to pic on, any takers ? I swing a mean ass crutch
Better watch out or I'll take my leg off and beat you with it.
Glenn
jim chivers
to tell me "you been beat up dummy" cause I sure as hell wouldn't know it
"Glenn Woodell" <letsrig@!!cox!!.net> wrote in message
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Penpoint
>
>With respect to whoever suggested the thing about people coming around
>to do the shopping or chores, I can't say I agree with that. Unless
>you are totally incapable, it's generally best to do almost everything
>yourself. It's so easy to let others do stuff, people are only too
>willing to help but the downside is that you lose out on essential
>activity and exercises and that can really bring your general state of
>health down (which will definitely reduce your resistance to pain).
>Just think how much you did when you had two legs. Every time someone
>does stuff for you, you lose a little bit of fitness. Suddenly after
>an amputation, there's a helluva lot of sitting around and navel
>gazing going on. Next thing you know, you can't gaze at your navel
>because you have a big fat spare tyre hiding it ;-)
>
Bellatrix, I agree with you that one should do everything he can do
himself; however, my suggestion was to get someone to do those things
he can't do. Besides hauling the trash up eight steps, he may not be
able, for example, to carry a bucket of water and mop his floor, or
climb a ladder to replace a light bulb, or change the sheets on his
bed all while balancing on crutches.
>One last thing I wanted to say is that if you are dealing with
>feelings of anger because of that terrible accident, it's very
>important to talk about it, as in years to come, you can find yourself
>kinda ready to explode if provoked even mildy. If you can sense a
>feelings of rage or of hyper alertness (always being prepared for the
>worst and stuff like that), then you have some of the symptoms of PTSD
>(post traumatic stress disorder) - nothing to be ashamed of but
>extremely important to be aware of because being aware of it can help
>you control or even cure it.
This is a very good point, b. Dwelling on negativity most hurts the
person himself. Here is another area where there is nothing wrong
with seeking help, in this type of case probably from professionals.
--Penpoint
Glenn Woodell
Glenn
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:21:49 GMT, "jim chivers" <jimch...@mchsi.com>
wrote:
>damn what a bunch of ignorant block heads. shit I was just cutting up ok.
>having fun, get it ?
>"jackK" <taunt'tight'@cox.net> wrote in message
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>> kati...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> jim;
>>> if you are only taking enough pain med to control the pain you will
>>> know when someone beats on you.i've been there,lost leg below the
>>> knee,compound fractured the femur,collasped a lung,broke all the ribs
>>> on one side and tore all the tendons loose on one hand in a bike
>>> accident.then 6 months later broke the screws holding the femur
>>> together due to an nonunion of the bones.i waited 4 more months before
>>> i went in to have it fixed which was when they found that the femur was
>>> infected and removed most of it.if you are in pain, take the meds,sure
>>> they screw up a few things,but in the long run it is better than being
>>> miserable.to answer one of your questions about phantom pain,i have had
>>> it since day one.nuerontin keeps it in check most of the time and when
>>> it doesnt i use methadone for the breakthru pain.i work in
>>> construction(on my feet so to speak)all day long,still ride a bike,and
>>> love getting down on the floor with my grandchild(amps learn to scoot
>>> on their butt as well as children).i am able to do all these things
>>> because i take pills.hang in there jim and ask all the questions you
>>> have.this site has some great people who are extremly helpfull..russ
>>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Seems to be alot of motorcycle amps around here... :)
>>
>> Jack
>
jim chivers
Bellatrix
>Wouldn't do any good,, I take so much pain medication, some one would have
>to tell me "you been beat up dummy" cause I sure as hell wouldn't know it
You really must try to cut down on the medication. There's a man I
used to know when I attended the local hospital who was prescribed
morphine and then other powerful meds for rather too long - he still
had severe phantom pains, only, because of lack of exercise due to the
tiredness cause by the meds, he became too obese to use a prosthetic
or crutches AND he was still using medication. He had abrasions on his
good knee from where he crawled around the living room.
I know it sounds nuts - how can activity and keeping both mentally and
physically occupied reduce those pains? No one would dream of telling
people who suffer from other types of pain to forget about medication
and just keep active. I think the key here is that phantom pains are a
totally unique phenomenon. They are not a warning of injury or disease
in the same way that conventional pain is, they're a poorly understood
aberration caused by a butchered nervous system. There's a big debate
among biochemists, neurologists, psychologists, psychiatrists, medics
and prosthetists AND amputees themselves about the causes and
solutions to phantom pain (just type 'phantom pains' in google and
read all the contradictory explanations and advice). I guess you have
to keep your mind open and research and try out different techniques
and see which best suits yourself. Someone mentioned that heat and
massages can help - I agree with that, especially at night (pains can
be really infuriating and keep you awake). But for daytime, I've
personally found nothing better than being active and occupied - the
only side effects of being active are beneficial 'side effects'.
You have to remember that your amputation is so recent that some of
the pain you are experiencing might not actually be phantom pains at
all and it's important to remember that, as others have said - things
WILL get better.
With respect to whoever suggested the thing about people coming around
to do the shopping or chores, I can't say I agree with that. Unless
you are totally incapable, it's generally best to do almost everything
yourself. It's so easy to let others do stuff, people are only too
willing to help but the downside is that you lose out on essential
activity and exercises and that can really bring your general state of
health down (which will definitely reduce your resistance to pain).
Just think how much you did when you had two legs. Every time someone
does stuff for you, you lose a little bit of fitness. Suddenly after
an amputation, there's a helluva lot of sitting around and navel
gazing going on. Next thing you know, you can't gaze at your navel
because you have a big fat spare tyre hiding it ;-)
Don't get me wrong here - I'm not the perfect example of an amputee
who has overcome all difficulties, far from it - I gave up wearing a
prosthetic when I should really have kept battling on at the hospital
(though I am enjoying the freedom of the crutches and the fact that I
can climb hills faster than any AKA - not much of a consolation, I
know), but I do know that over-medication and lack of activity is
almost suicidal. I've seen men younger than myself simply balloon
their weight and become really unfit. You gotta have a kind of warrior
mentality. Every day is a struggle, a battle you must win (especially
so soon after your accident). Set yourself goals with the medication -
try and start a program of reduction as soon as possible and keep
exercising. One of the worst things that can happen in the first year
or so after amputation is lack of cardiovascular activity. It's so
easy to quickly lose fitness. When you had two legs you kept fit
without even noticing because even leisurely walking is a pretty good
exercise - now it's something you have to think about.
One last thing I wanted to say is that if you are dealing with
feelings of anger because of that terrible accident, it's very
important to talk about it, as in years to come, you can find yourself
kinda ready to explode if provoked even mildy. If you can sense a
feelings of rage or of hyper alertness (always being prepared for the
worst and stuff like that), then you have some of the symptoms of PTSD
(post traumatic stress disorder) - nothing to be ashamed of but
extremely important to be aware of because being aware of it can help
you control or even cure it.
Oh, I saw you saying you were looking for a fight - well, I'm Scottish
from Glasgow here - so anytime pal, anytime ;-)
b :-)
jim chivers
"Glenn Woodell" <letsrig@!!cox!!.net> wrote in message
> So I can beat you now?
kati...@yahoo.com
Glenn Woodell
wrote:
>
>"Glenn Woodell" <letsrig@!!cox!!.net> wrote in message
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>> So I can beat you now?
>> please do Glenn Please somebody hit me in the fucking head
Thanks for the laugh.
Glenn
jackK
Hi all,
Glenn Woodell
wife checks behind me every time.
Glenn
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:36:15 GMT, "jim chivers" <jimch...@mchsi.com>
wrote:
>your welcome glenn even though I'm overmedicated, fat and lazy. and expected
>to take advice from some stranger over the internet, someone who probably
>doesn't even wipe their ass adequately
>"Glenn Woodell" <letsrig@!!cox!!.net> wrote in message
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jim chivers
to take advice from some stranger over the internet, someone who probably
doesn't even wipe their ass adequately
jim chivers
thinking of.Of course they probably know moreabout everything than most
people, the insurance company approved the purchase of the "C" leg for me
today. Therapy and whatever comes first starts Monday. I can't wait, I'll be
walking again. It's alittle expensive, but the lawyer tells me, that there
ae enough assets in place, to buya new one everyday, if need be. $56000,
with a life expectancy of 5 years. Of course there is the life of phantom
pain to accompany it. I had an ephaderal this evening, and the pain is
actually gone. First time since the wound closed. Ifound a person to start
coming in regulary today, wednes day and saturday, $50 a visit, that's
bringing in groceries and lite housework. Things are looking up, of course
I got a request from the yougest one today for money, funny how they can
seem to remember me when their broke. they can't drive 3 hours to see me, or
see of I need any help with anything. I understand it's not just my kids,
but almost every bodies these days. Boy it'll be nice to be walking again,
check out the link to the newpaper article I attached. That's the proshtesis
on the right, in the picture, that I'll be working with, and the type of leg
described in the article for me. My compliments from my sister to you Glenn,
she thinks your funny. Bellatrix, she called you a dumb bitch
Jim
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=%22artificial+leg%22+%2BIraq
"Glenn Woodell" <letsrig@!!cox!!.net> wrote in message
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Bellatrix
>Bellatrix and Katilguy is who I was
>thinking of.Of course they probably know moreabout everything than most
>people,
Hey, don't strain yourself trying to 'think'. You
need to save your energy for the self-pitying, semiliterate, ignorant
whining crap which you post here.
>e insurance company approved the purchase of the "C" leg for me
>today. Therapy and whatever comes first starts Monday.
Good, hope they help you to learn how to accept that you're not the
only person who's gone through what you have. Others have travelled
this path before you and know far more than you. It's a fact that if
you sit on your oh so sorry arse all the time stuffing yourself with
medication, you'll get fat. You simply cannot use a prosthetic
properly if you are over-weight. Unless of course you think it's OK to
spend over 50 grand on what is nothing more than a cosmetic effect,
dangling uselessly from your wheel chair.
OK, perhaps I neglected to realise that in fact you are actually
already fat, but that's your prob, not mine. As a fatty, you sure are
gonna have one fuck of a time trying to stagger around on $56,000
worth of prosthetic - totally useless if are an
unfit, wobbling pile of sad, tearful lard as you evidently are.
Don't waste your cash. Give the limb to some to some amputee
returning from Iraq - at least it will probably get used instead of
lying most of the day in a corner gathering dust as yours surely will.
> can't wait, I'll be
>walking again.
Fat chance, pal. Fucking fat chance.
>It's alittle expensive, but the lawyer tells me, that there
>ae enough assets in place, to buya new one everyday, if need be. $56000,
As an ignorant fat fucker, you'll probably need a new leg everyday.
>with a life expectancy of 5 years. Of course there is the life of phantom
>pain to accompany it.
Oh yes, let's not forget your terrible phantom pains, huh?
>had an ephaderal this evening, and the pain is
>actually gone.
Sure you weren't trying in vain to spell 'epidural'? It's what
pregnant woman often get to alleviate the pain of child birth. Of
course, no doubt your phantom pain is as painful as that.
>Ifound a person to start
>coming in regulary today, wednes day and saturday, $50 a visit, that's
>bringing in groceries and lite housework.
While you sit on your enormous fat arse making basic spelling mistakes
and whining about your terrible phantom pain?
>hings are looking up, of course
Let's see if you still say that after trying to stumble around with
your huge, flacid, unfit bulk on what will be an effectively useless
$56,000 prosthetic
>boy it'll be nice to be walking again,
With your attitude you aint gonna being doing anything that could be
considered as even slightly resembling walking for a long fat time,
pal.
>check out the link to the newpaper article I attached. That's the proshtesis
>on the right, in the picture, that I'll be working with, and the type of leg
>described in the article for me.
Yeah, none of us here know what a C-leg is. Thanks for the
illuminating info.
>Bellatrix, she called you a dumb bitch
Rather ironic coming from someone who can barely read or write,
wouldn't you agree?
Now fuck off and get on with your self-centered, fucked up,
pea-brained postings. And wipe the food crumbs off your hideous paunch
before your home-help comes around to do your chores. You can't expect
people to do everything for you, just because you chuck $50 at them.
>Jim
You fuckin' asked for this, fat boy and you fuckin got it.
b
Glenn Woodell
>On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:20:59 GMT, wrote:
>
> It's a fact that if
>you sit on your oh so sorry arse all the time stuffing yourself with
>medication, you'll get fat. You simply cannot use a prosthetic
>properly if you are over-weight.
I'll agree with this but I'd do it with a little more tact.
As an amputee you'll need to moderate your weight, whether it be 300
or 100 pounds. Gaining and losing is the worst thing you can do since
a good fit is crucial. The better your fit the more active you will be
and the converse is true as well.
I have been very fortunate to have been able to keep my weight the
same for many years. I stay at 157'ish all the time, gaining and
losing no more than three pounds. And when I do I can feel it.
Glenn
Glenn Woodell
wrote:
>I wasn't reffering to you Glenn, Bellatrix and Katilguy is who I was
>thinking of.Of course they probably know moreabout everything than most
>people
I didn't take it as directed toward anyone. I took it as
tongue-in-cheek and I think you are funny. We haven't had this much
entertainment in a while.
Hmmm. I wonder if the phantom pains go away if we all laugh.
Glenn
Glenn Woodell
>On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:20:59 GMT, wrote:
>
>>Bellatrix and Katilguy is who I was
>>thinking of.Of course they probably know moreabout everything than most
>>people,
>
>Hey, don't strain yourself trying to 'think'. You
>need to save your energy for the self-pitying, semiliterate, ignorant
>whining crap which you post here.
[Rest of nasty rant snipped]
Believe it or not, Bellatrix quite often offers a lot of very useful
insight. Just not today I guess.
Personally I've enjoyed Jim's posts and I think he's going through
what all of us probably went through in the beginning.
Glenn
jim chivers
on one think honey bunch. to me women are only useful as cum bags, you got
it, women receive sperm. That is there only function to me, if they are not
potential cum bags, then they have no use. And will receive nothing from me
but hate, and I do mean pure hate.
Wanna play bitch, tell me where you r
<Bellatrix> wrote in message
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jim chivers
I weigh 147 pds, have never been fat, and have never treated a woman with
any measure of respect, so don't expect any, or believe that I embrace you
as superior, for even one instant. I am capable, without regret, of putting
your remains ina barrel, and dropping you inthe Missouri river. honey bunch
<Bellatrix> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:20:59 GMT, wrote:
>
>>Bellatrix and Katilguy is who I was
>>thinking of.Of course they probably know moreabout everything than most
>>peo
>
Bellatrix
>Let's get clear
>on one think honey bunch. to me women are only useful as cum bags, you got
>it, women receive sperm. That is there only function to me, if they are not
>potential cum bags, then they have no use. And will receive nothing from me
>but hate, and I do mean pure hate.
> Wanna play bitch, tell me where you r
Well... I've always had a knack for spotting a personality. Gimme even
5 mins on the phone even with a complete stranger or a few paragraphs
and I can tell if there's anything seriously strange going on. I
spotted you instantly in your initial posts. I think I also recognised
the style from another group but I wasn't sure. It was just a feeling.
I just got a feeling -'there's something really nasty about that
bastard and he's using his amputation to disguise and mask the truth.
He's using the old "hey guys make allowances for me, I ain't so bad,
it's just this damn amputation trauma and terrible terrible terrible
phantom pains, I just need lots of attention, please give it to me"'
Mistake 1. An nasty, dangerous misogynist might have thought it
prudent to use a pseudonym. Wouldn't you have thought so, Jim Chivers?
Mistake 2. You returned my sincere and helpful advice with an insult.
I don't start stuff but if pushed, I push back hard. It's a PTSD prob,
the adrenalin squirts into the blood stream and before I know it, I'm
prepared to fight.
I'm genuinely sorry for any offence caused to other contributors. I
shouldn't have said that stuff about being over weight. We all have
our difficulties, each of us has some problem or other. I don't have
any prob with over weight people but Mr Chivers just got me all riled
up big time.
You're damn lucky you're several 1000 miles away. If you talked about
woman like that in front of my face, I'd have flattened you. Know why?
That's because of big mistake number 3 - you assumed I was female when
in fact I'm a 6'2" man. I use star names in a lot of my online
activities. Bellatrix is a bright star in the constellation of Orion,
the hunter.
I need say little more now since you've revealed to everyone what a
thoroughly disgusting character you possess. Your comments regarding
woman are nothing short of highly sinister. If any woman are attacked
or disappear in your area, your local police will be checking out your
alibi. You need to see a psychiatrist and get help before you hurt any
more females. You're a sick man. I wonder what your sister thinks of
your remarks, or are you going to hide them from her. Or perhaps she's
used to your repellent attitudes and the 'pure hate' you speak of.
I've seen hundreds of people suffering from all sort of illnesses,
amputations and other physical traumas but your attitude stood right
out. It rang alarm bells because it didn't fit in even slightly with
anything I've encountered. No one here as ever acted the way you have
- total unreasoning arrogance, anger and bragging statements.
I even wonder if half of what you say is remotely near any form of
truth.
OK, I'm done and again, I sincerely apologise to other contributors
for the remarks about overweight people.
As for you Chivers, I'm posting all the info you've given to your
local police department so they can keep an eye out on you and make
sure that any woman around you receive the warnings and protection the
deserve. I really hope you get help.
Jeez, to think someone like you could have young woman going into your
house to do your 'chores' *shudder*
Henceforth, I shall not respond to another single word you type. I
just wish I'd never heard of you at all. People like you really set me
off in a dark, dark mood.
b
Doug
but he was born in London, just lives there. You would think there
would be help from the Vets here even though this wasn't an injury
realized during my time in service. Maybe the asbestos will get me help
someday.
Dug~