wannabe amputee

[Jayco]

Have the interest and millions of questions.
Bill

[Rick]

In article <7ai90v$fkh$1...@remarQ.com>, ja...@par1.net
says...

> Have the interest and millions of questions.
> Bill
>
>
>

This oughta liven up the group a bit. How long have you
thought this one out?

[James]

Ask away. I figured amputation would become the trend to follow body
piercing.
Ha Ha!
Jayco wrote in message <7ai90v$fkh$1...@remarQ.com>...

[Steve]

Damn I thought it was a secret how much fun it is
having one of your limbs cut off. Now that I
think about it I hear suicide is even more fun so
why dont you try that one dumbass.

Steve

[Chuck]

Please explain to us WHY you want to become an amputee and then just maybe
some of us will actually talk to you. Otherwise your just going to jet
"you dumbass" types of responses and that includes from me.

Lets hear what this guy ("Jayco" a.k.a. Bill) has to say....... we're
listening.........

I want to become an amputee because:

[johnm]

I want to become an amputee because:

I cost my soccer team the championship?

[Chuck]

Whats the whole story. Become an amputee because of a soccer match?
Please explain what you are talking about.

[johnm]

It was a "dumbass" response. I'm a bilateral ak and was poking fun at
"wannabe amputee". Sort of a satirical statement - "I feel so bad about
costing the team the soccer match I should punish myself my getting
amputated."
johnm wrote in message <7auh0m$qm2$1...@remarQ.com>...

[Chuck]

I guess the guy (wannabe) who said he had so many questions bailed on
us...... guess we shouldn'ta called him a dumbass?

[Steve]

Now I am feeling bad :(

Steve

[johnm]

Oh, your probably right Chuck, perhaps it would have been more appropriate
to have used SMARTASS!

Chuck wrote in message <01be61ff$fd227080$dbc47ad1@win95client>...

[Chuck]

What blows my mind is that there are actually sites out there full of
amputee wannabes! Check this one out to see if you can figure it out:
http://www.ampulove.com/

[OneLegWndr]

I saw the website that you're talking about, and I, too, find that to be not
only weird, but totally offensive. I wonder how many of those amputees on that
site know 1) that their photo was taken, and 2) where it ended up!

[David Sullivan]

I wonder that too, if they know their photo is there. I would be pissed if I found
mine on there. It sounds like some of those perves need an amputation, but not a
limb if you know what I mean.

Dave

[Alexis MENSAERT]

Hi there,
dear amputees,
Let me guess about what site this nice message is going.
See you !!!!
Alex
ampulove crew

www.ampulove.com

David Sullivan heeft geschreven in bericht
<36FBB7F7...@buckmasters.com>...

[johnm]

I visited the site, Chuck. On the whole I found it interesting and some
aspects enjoyable. But the sections on wannabes and devotees is way beyond
my ability to comprehend. And quite frankly I was frightened to ask them
myself - probably an irrational fear but fear nonetheless.

If anyone understands, please explain.

An interested coward.
Chuck wrote in message <01be74e4$1a569540$79c47ad1@win95client>...

[johnm]

Chuck, and all other interested persons - turns out my fears may not have
been irrational after all - there's something to be said for gut instincts -
please read the information at
http://amputee-online.com/amputee/acrotomophile.htm. If you can't link up
at this address let me know, I may have copied it wrong.

John

[Mark Eustace]

Alex,

Nice of you to introduce yourself. How about telling us what the
fascination is. It seems you wannabes and devotees have a bad name.
Why not take this opportunity to give us a bit of insight into your
reasons.

In article <7dh1n2$qfo$1...@news.planetinternet.be>, Alexis MENSAERT
<ampu...@planetinternet.be> writes

--
Mark Eustace

[toni_a...@my-dejanews.com]

In article <01be74e4$1a569540$79c47ad1@win95client>,

"Chuck" <ALegN...@aol.com> wrote:
> What blows my mind is that there are actually sites out there full of
> amputee wannabes! Check this one out to see if you can figure it out:
> http://www.ampulove.com/
>

I am an amputee fan (or a devotee - as we prefere to call ourselves). I have
- while searching for more info on amputees - found out about this newsgroup,
which is "perfectly straight" and is aimed towards helping people with
amputated limbs. Since I consider myself quite normal in every respect - I'd
like to know what exactly IS wrong with people attracted to amputees? I have
seen even more agressive posts following yours and I fail to see, what is
really wrong...

I agree, posting people on the net against their will might be immoral, but
for all I know my picture might be in a alt.sex.fetish.hair group. If one
finds him/herself on a cover of a newspaper or a magazine, one is proud, If
one finds himself in a fetish group (probbably far more admired and liked
than on a cover of a newspaper) one is disgusted. Go figure...

If anyone wants to know more, just post to this group, because my email is
invalid (spam protection)

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[toni_a...@my-dejanews.com]

[Steve84]

You want to fall in love with amputees I dont care but when someone says they
wannabe an amputee something is seriously wrong.

Steve

toni_a...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> I am an amputee fan (or a devotee - as we prefere to call ourselves). I have
> - while searching for more info on amputees - found out about this newsgroup,
> which is "perfectly straight" and is aimed towards helping people with
> amputated limbs. Since I consider myself quite normal in every respect - I'd
> like to know what exactly IS wrong with people attracted to amputees? I have
> seen even more agressive posts following yours and I fail to see, what is
> really wrong...
>
> I agree, posting people on the net against their will might be immoral, but
> for all I know my picture might be in a alt.sex.fetish.hair group. If one
> finds him/herself on a cover of a newspaper or a magazine, one is proud, If
> one finds himself in a fetish group (probbably far more admired and liked
> than on a cover of a newspaper) one is disgusted. Go figure...
>
> If anyone wants to know more, just post to this group, because my email is
> invalid (spam protection)
>
> __
> BP Toni
>
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--
Dorothy
Well, how can you talk if you haven't got a brain?

Scarecrow
I don't know. But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't
they?

http://www.flash.net/~steve84

[toni_a...@my-dejanews.com]

In article <01be74e4$1a569540$79c47ad1@win95client>,
"Chuck" <ALegN...@aol.com> wrote:
> What blows my mind is that there are actually sites out there full of
> amputee wannabes! Check this one out to see if you can figure it out:
> http://www.ampulove.com/
>
>

I am one of the devotees (people fascinated and attracted to amputees). If
there is anything concerning my (our) fascination feel free to ask.

I would like to point out, that i think of myself as a perfectly normal human
being and that there is nothing very deviated in my fascination. Just like
some people are attracted to hairy, some to blond, some to short people - we
are attracted to amputees.

Have a nice day!

[johnm]

I think the broader question being asked is not about the fascination with
amputees, but why one would want to become an amputee. On the ampulove site
there is information about how and where one can become an amputee by
surgical procedure.

It is certainly not a routine practice among the populations in the world.
Nevertheless, there are people who seem to want to be amputated that have no
medical reason to do so - they have a desire to have one part or another
amputated.

And I think it is a letigimate question to ask why that is so.

[b@|+/-1]

johnm <jo...@ris.net> wrote:
> I think the broader question being asked is not about the fascination with
> amputees, but why one would want to become an amputee. On the ampulove site
> there is information about how and where one can become an amputee by
> surgical procedure.

> It is certainly not a routine practice among the populations in the world.
> Nevertheless, there are people who seem to want to be amputated that have no
> medical reason to do so - they have a desire to have one part or another
> amputated.

> And I think it is a letigimate question to ask why that is so.

To take a wild shot, I'd say that the reasons are quite similar to those
of transsexuals who feel they were born 'the wrong gender', only, in
this case, it's a matter of being born with more limbs than they feel
'right' having.

b@|+/-\1

--
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Great! Let's put it on the InterNet!
No. We have to reach people who's opinions actually matter.
-the Simpsons

[Vera Little]

Hello,
Although I don't have any problems with someone being attracted to me
because I'm an amputee; the 'some are attracted to (fill in the blank)- we
are attracted to stumps' doesn't hold any water. I will tell you why: Hair,
height, or bust size is not comparable to a disability. The difference is
that you are attracted to a physical trait that is, at the very least, an
inconvenience, to the people who have them.

And, i agree with the general sentiment here. A person who admires amputees
is completely different from someone who wants to be an amputee. And,
although I've heard wannabeeism compared with someone who wants to change
their sex; this also isn't comaparable. Wanting to become a woman isn't the
same as wanting an amputation.

There isn't really a good reason why anyone is attracted to anyone. Trying
to explain it isn't going to get you anywhere. How you act toward those you
are interested in is what matters. For instance, telling me that you are
attracted to me the same way someone else is attracted to blonde hair,
doesn't do anything for me. But, telling me that you find my inner strength
attractive, or that you find me more beautiful because i'm unique, or that
you find my confidence sexy; might get my attention.

Vera Little
for personal email remove 'no spam' from my address.

[a-...@gmx.net]

Vera Little wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Although I don't have any problems with someone being attracted to me
> because I'm an amputee; the 'some are attracted to (fill in the blank)- we
> are attracted to stumps' doesn't hold any water. I will tell you why: Hair,
> height, or bust size is not comparable to a disability. The difference is
> that you are attracted to a physical trait that is, at the very least, an
> inconvenience, to the people who have them.
>
> And, i agree with the general sentiment here. A person who admires amputees
> is completely different from someone who wants to be an amputee. And,
> although I've heard wannabeeism compared with someone who wants to change
> their sex; this also isn't comaparable. Wanting to become a woman isn't the
> same as wanting an amputation.
>
> There isn't really a good reason why anyone is attracted to anyone. Trying
> to explain it isn't going to get you anywhere. How you act toward those you
> are interested in is what matters. For instance, telling me that you are
> attracted to me the same way someone else is attracted to blonde hair,
> doesn't do anything for me. But, telling me that you find my inner strength
> attractive, or that you find me more beautiful because i'm unique, or that
> you find my confidence sexy; might get my attention.
>
> Vera Little
> for personal email remove 'no spam' from my address.

Vera,
there is a similarity ti TG people. I know two successful wana´s who
just
describe the same symptoms, i.e. feeling to live in the "wrong" body an
now feel
very well and "normal".

[Mark Eustace]

I don't agree with this. Most people who have a desire to change sex
are driven by hormonal imbalances primarily (although social influences
are important too). I doubt hormones have anything to do with devotees'
motives. Fetishes derive from childhood experiences that boys
particularly are affected by. Early childhood experiences, often
relating to the mother, can have deep significance in the development to
adulthood. I remember reading about someone who used to take pictures
of women's hands because he had a fetish about rings. His explanation
was that his mother always wore a lot of rings and this had somehow
affected his sexual desires (I can't remember the precise details).

Most people do not have access to amputees unless they work in medicine
or are amputees themselves. In Britain the population of amputees is
only around .2% of the total so it is very rare. Because of this I find
it hard to believe that being around an amputee at an early age is the
reason for the attraction.

Rather than being a fetish in the traditional sense, I feel amputee
devotees are a bit cult like and enjoy being part of a 'club'. Perhaps
this is a compulsion which is more difficult to explain. The fact that
they have no consideration for the amputees they write to
indiscriminately or whose photographs they display without permission
suggests a selfishness that goes beyond normal justification. Whatever
the reason behind the attraction or the urge to be an amputee and in the
absence of any evidence to the contrary, I do not believe the people
concerned are normal in any way.

Mark.

In article <7elta2$oh3$1...@eve.enteract.com>, b@|+/-.? writes

[SteveWlson]

>It is certainly not a routine practice among the populations in the world.
>Nevertheless, there are people who seem to want to be amputated that have no
>medical reason to do so - they have a desire to have one part or another
>amputated.
>
>And I think it is a letigimate question to ask why that is so.

For those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't, no
explanation is possible.

[b@|+/-1]

SteveWlson <steve...@aol.comstubby> wrote:

> For those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don't, no
> explanation is possible.

Wonderfully put.
Attempting to justify something like this to someone who has already
decided in their own mind that it is 'wrong' is futile. It is very
confusing to me why so many people bother to ask 'Why' when they have
already come to their own conclusions.

[toni_a...@my-dejanews.com]

> Most people do not have access to amputees unless they work in medicine
> or are amputees themselves. In Britain the population of amputees is
> only around .2% of the total so it is very rare. Because of this I find
> it hard to believe that being around an amputee at an early age is the
> reason for the attraction.

Very true, although I remember being attracted to all sorts of disabled
people from ever since I can remember. Even when I was just a child of 4 or 5
I would experience the exact same feeling as I feel now (and it has nothing
to do with sex then). I suspect it is not (only) a sexual thing, because a
child at 4 can hardly be drawn by sexual desire. I had periods of "wanabee"
experiences myself, and I still do, but common sense prevails over my desires
and I am quite sure about myself NOT wanting to become an amputee.
Nevertheless, I am still fascinated (even after so many years) by the desire
of wanting to become an amputee or even only seeing or meeting one.

> Rather than being a fetish in the traditional sense, I feel amputee
> devotees are a bit cult like and enjoy being part of a 'club'.

I would disagree, because this is something most of us were ashamed of prior
to finding each other on the net. It is not everyday, that you find out that
you are a misfit and have deviant desires (by normal standards). This
fascination (in my opinion) has grown in individuals for a very long time,
and most of us are not really thinking of ourselves as "part of a club".

> this is a compulsion which is more difficult to explain. The fact that
> they have no consideration for the amputees they write to
> indiscriminately or whose photographs they display without permission
> suggests a selfishness that goes beyond normal justification. Whatever
> the reason behind the attraction or the urge to be an amputee and in the
> absence of any evidence to the contrary, I do not believe the people
> concerned are normal in any way.

Hmm...

__
BP Toni

[toni_a...@my-dejanews.com]

Hello!

> Although I don't have any problems with someone being attracted to me
> because I'm an amputee; the 'some are attracted to (fill in the blank)- we
> are attracted to stumps' doesn't hold any water. I will tell you why: Hair,
> height, or bust size is not comparable to a disability. The difference is
> that you are attracted to a physical trait that is, at the very least, an
> inconvenience, to the people who have them.

Hmm good point. And I can not really match any "inconvenience" that would even
remotely come close to an amputation (hairy legs or flat chest for girls,
braces etc...). Still I feel that attraction to a physical feature can be
looked at from the same viewpoint.

> There isn't really a good reason why anyone is attracted to anyone. Trying
> to explain it isn't going to get you anywhere. How you act toward those you
> are interested in is what matters. For instance, telling me that you are
> attracted to me the same way someone else is attracted to blonde hair,
> doesn't do anything for me. But, telling me that you find my inner strength
> attractive, or that you find me more beautiful because i'm unique, or that
> you find my confidence sexy; might get my attention.

I found myself in a probbably once-in-a-lifetime situation of meeting a quad
amputee girl in a street. I think an institution for disabled youth had a day
out and went to see the same movie.
My attraction to the physical state of the person (I do not know who she is)
literally prevented me to make any contact with her, since I feel I could not
get beyond the physical point. It is so plain and simple inside my head - like
it was hardcoded into my brainwaves, that Amputees Are Beautifull.
I suspect it is very hard for other devotees or wanabees to go about saying,
that inner strenghth, uniqueness or confidence is sexy, while the first
atraction is really the disability itself.

__
BP Tony

[David]

Several weeks ago I posted a message about people who are amputee wanabees and
have amputee fetishes. I stated that I found it repulsive, I guess I still do to
some degree. I can't understand why anyone would find an individual attractive
because of a missing limb, a disability, a clump of gnarly hair in their arm
pit-or what ever else I may find a 'turn-off'. People have different things that
attract them to other people I suppose. Where the problem lies is when people
become obsessed with any particular attraction to the point it has an adverse
effect on their lives, and the lives of those they come in contact with. I
apologize for jumping the gun on wannabees, but I have a request I think we would
all like to ask of you, and those with amputee fetishes:

PLEASE DO NOT POST OR DISTRIBUTE PHOTOS WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE PHOTOGRAPHEE!

And please treat us with respect and dignity. We are people first. Mothers,
fathers, employers, athletes and so on. Most of us try to push being an "amputee"
as far away from the top of our "who we are" list as we possibly can. Please
remember that.

[johnm]

Try as I may, I am unable to understand. Yet the question was asked to
"tell us why." Your answer appeared to be honest and by giving it you
opened up for a ton of criticism. But you did try.
<toni_a...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
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[Norma...@webtv.net]

[cam79...@gmail.com]

Am a 33 years old Ever since the age of 5 years old i have all ways wanted to be an quad amputee Have all ways hated my limbs and wanted them cut off and be confined to a wheelchair

[brir...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Jayco wrote:
> Have the interest and millions of questions.
> Bill

[onth...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Jayco wrote:
> Have the interest and millions of questions.
> Bill

for some time now I have wanted to be a double above knee amputee

[onth...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 18, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Jayco wrote:
> Have the interest and millions of questions.
> Bill

for sometime now I have wanted to be a double above nee amputee

[Ampu- Love]

its so easy to become an amputee. on my Ampulove site www.Ampu-love.com it is all well explained and so much information.
i reached lbk, lak, rbe, rbk, rak, and still it is very frustrating to see that people want it but don't get it. If further interest, be free to contact me through the ampu-love website
Wish success to ALL wannabes
Greetings
Amputee Alex