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Bill Wilkinson

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:28:49 AM11/6/09
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Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
agent for μSoft.


--Bill
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The Last Viking

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:02:35 AM11/6/09
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
:> Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
:> agent for μSoft.

I use LVM, it's nice when you've got 10000 users and they are all disc
hogs and you need to scale things up every now and then.

Personally I prefer mkfs on plain devices though.

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John Lodder

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:44:13 AM11/6/09
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In article <hd138r$2h4e$6...@inn.uit.no>,

The Last Viking <i_dont_r...@ekran.no> wrote:
>A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
>:> Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
>:> agent for μSoft.
>
>I use LVM, it's nice when you've got 10000 users and they are all disc
>hogs and you need to scale things up every now and then.
>
>Personally I prefer mkfs on plain devices though.

IBM was involved. I'm sure of it.
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"Oh, to be in England now that April's there" --RB
My opinions are mine. All mine. Replete with very me.

Bill Wilkinson

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:55:21 AM11/6/09
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The Last Viking wrote:
> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
> :> Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
> :> agent for μSoft.
>
> I use LVM, it's nice when you've got 10000 users and they are all disc
> hogs and you need to scale things up every now and then.

You're root for 10000 users??? K00L! Just thnik of the power! If you
wanted somebody killed, all you'd have to do would be bribe one of your
uses with an extra 10 Meg of storage to do it...maybe throw in an extra
640K if they make it look like an accident.

> Personally I prefer mkfs on plain devices though.

Plain devices for plain device drivers, I always say!

The Last Viking

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:35:17 AM11/9/09
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
:> The Last Viking wrote:
:>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
:>> :> Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
:>> :> agent for μSoft.
:>>
:>> I use LVM, it's nice when you've got 10000 users and they are all disc
:>> hogs and you need to scale things up every now and then.

:> You're root for 10000 users??? K00L! Just thnik of the power! If you
:> wanted somebody killed, all you'd have to do would be bribe one of your
:> uses with an extra 10 Meg of storage to do it...maybe throw in an extra
:> 640K if they make it look like an accident.

I think you're confusing disc space with Heroine. It's a quite common
mistake really so don't feel bad about it.

John Lodder

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:08:34 AM11/10/09
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In article <hd9crl$138n$2...@inn.uit.no>,

The Last Viking <i_dont_r...@ekran.no> wrote:
>A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
>:> The Last Viking wrote:
>:>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
>:>> :> Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
>:>> :> agent for μSoft.
>:>>
>:>> I use LVM, it's nice when you've got 10000 users and they are all disc
>:>> hogs and you need to scale things up every now and then.
>
>:> You're root for 10000 users??? K00L! Just thnik of the power! If you
>:> wanted somebody killed, all you'd have to do would be bribe one of your
>:> uses with an extra 10 Meg of storage to do it...maybe throw in an extra
>:> 640K if they make it look like an accident.
>
>I think you're confusing disc space with Heroine. It's a quite common
>mistake really so don't feel bad about it.

Well, heck, I can just go down to the corner and get a 1TB drive for
US$0.99. So you should be able to strap a couple of thoese to the server
thingie and viola! Infinite space!

Bill Wilkinson

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:12:20 AM11/15/09
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Actually, it only appears ininite. In reality, it's curved in a
magnetic domain sort of way. You can see this if you were a
three-dimensional being and could stand far enough away from the disk
and look at it from outside the surface of the platter. Curved.

Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.

The Last Viking

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Nov 16, 2009, 5:02:19 AM11/16/09
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
:> John Lodder wrote:
:>> In article <hd9crl$138n$2...@inn.uit.no>,
:>> The Last Viking <i_dont_r...@ekran.no> wrote:
:>>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
:>>> :> The Last Viking wrote:
:>>> :>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
[..]

:> Actually, it only appears ininite. In reality, it's curved in a

:> magnetic domain sort of way. You can see this if you were a
:> three-dimensional being and could stand far enough away from the disk
:> and look at it from outside the surface of the platter. Curved.

:> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.

Wouldn't such a device be write only? What happens when entropy comes into
play on an infinite system?

Bill Wilkinson

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:19:01 PM11/19/09
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The Last Viking wrote:
> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
> :> John Lodder wrote:
> :>> In article <hd9crl$138n$2...@inn.uit.no>,
> :>> The Last Viking <i_dont_r...@ekran.no> wrote:
> :>>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
> :>>> :> The Last Viking wrote:
> :>>> :>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
> [..]
>
> :> Actually, it only appears ininite. In reality, it's curved in a
> :> magnetic domain sort of way. You can see this if you were a
> :> three-dimensional being and could stand far enough away from the disk
> :> and look at it from outside the surface of the platter. Curved.
>
> :> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.

Sutpid engineers...I was just *joking*.

http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/06/hard-rectangular-drive-takes-the-disk-out-of-hard-disk.ars

(http://tinyurl.com/nr4z7n)

> Wouldn't such a device be write only? What happens when entropy comes into
> play on an infinite system?

Yer tires would squeal when hitting those corners whilst cruising the
information super autobahn.

John Lodder

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:13:43 PM11/20/09
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In article <jqmdnVCMvqy_EZjW...@earthlink.com>,

Bill Wilkinson <billwi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>The Last Viking wrote:
>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
>> :> John Lodder wrote:
>> :>> In article <hd9crl$138n$2...@inn.uit.no>,
>> :>> The Last Viking <i_dont_r...@ekran.no> wrote:
>> :>>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
>> :>>> :> The Last Viking wrote:
>> :>>> :>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
>> [..]
>>
>> :> Actually, it only appears ininite. In reality, it's curved in a
>> :> magnetic domain sort of way. You can see this if you were a
>> :> three-dimensional being and could stand far enough away from the disk
>> :> and look at it from outside the surface of the platter. Curved.
>>
>> :> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.
>
>Sutpid engineers...I was just *joking*.
>
>http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/06/hard-rectangular-drive-takes-the-disk-out-of-hard-disk.ars
>
>(http://tinyurl.com/nr4z7n)
>
>> Wouldn't such a device be write only? What happens when entropy comes into
>> play on an infinite system?
>
>Yer tires would squeal when hitting those corners whilst cruising the
>information super autobahn.

My tires do not *squeal*. They hum.

Wait. I don't have tires.

Nevermind.

Magnus Mulqvist

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:48:16 PM11/25/09
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In article <ZICdnT3aetucyGnX...@earthlink.com>,
billwi...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:
> The Last Viking wrote:
> > A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
> > :> Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
> > :> agent for μSoft.
> >
> > I use LVM, it's nice when you've got 10000 users and they are all disc
> > hogs and you need to scale things up every now and then.
>
> You're root for 10000 users??? K00L! Just thnik of the power! If you
> wanted somebody killed, all you'd have to do would be bribe one of your
> uses with an extra 10 Meg of storage to do it...maybe throw in an extra
> 640K if they make it look like an accident.
>
> > Personally I prefer mkfs on plain devices though.
>
> Plain devices for plain device drivers, I always say!
>
That's not true. I've seen you say many other things! Many times!

--

*MM -- who wishes to emphasize that he always prefers diversity over
"Plain devices for plain device drivers".

Replace "dot" with a dot to reply.

Magnus Mulqvist

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:49:48 PM11/25/09
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In article <hdc362$o8o$1...@remote5bge0.ripco.com>, jlo...@ripco.com mumbles
as follows:
Is there such a place?

--

*MM -- who must believe in the human race.

Magnus Mulqvist

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:58:29 PM11/25/09
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In article <C4SdnYuuL-n4tZ3W...@earthlink.com>,
billwi...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:
>
> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.
>
It should be faced as a challenge. The disc is easy, the casing is easy
but a waste of pysical space, but the geometric parameters for the pickup
motor might be the challenge.

You might to pick up the problem by thinking of the athletics runners who
run around a (almost) circle. What if ..

no Hell.

--

*MM

William Wilkinson

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Nov 26, 2009, 5:59:59 AM11/26/09
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Magnus Mulqvist wrote:
> In article <ZICdnT3aetucyGnX...@earthlink.com>,
> billwi...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:
>> The Last Viking wrote:
>>> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Bill Wilkinson wrote:
>>> :> Whoever convinced Fedora that they needed LVM was prolly an undercover
>>> :> agent for μSoft.
>>>
>>> I use LVM, it's nice when you've got 10000 users and they are all disc
>>> hogs and you need to scale things up every now and then.
>> You're root for 10000 users??? K00L! Just thnik of the power! If you
>> wanted somebody killed, all you'd have to do would be bribe one of your
>> uses with an extra 10 Meg of storage to do it...maybe throw in an extra
>> 640K if they make it look like an accident.
>>
>>> Personally I prefer mkfs on plain devices though.
>> Plain devices for plain device drivers, I always say!
>>
> That's not true. I've seen you say many other things! Many times!

Seeing and hearing is two different things, I always say.

William Wilkinson

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Nov 26, 2009, 6:03:23 AM11/26/09
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No Hell? Then where are all those people and inanimate objects that
annoy me going to go? Where am *I* going to go?

Bill Wilkinson

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:49:45 PM11/27/09
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Yes! It's located next door to the Totally Bounded Space.

John Lodder

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Dec 1, 2009, 11:36:12 AM12/1/09
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In article <3JSdndcCjsnm_ZPW...@earthlink.com>,

William Wilkinson <billwi...@mindBOINGspring.com> wrote:
>Magnus Mulqvist wrote:
>> In article <C4SdnYuuL-n4tZ3W...@earthlink.com>,
>> billwi...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:
>>> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.
>>>
>> It should be faced as a challenge. The disc is easy, the casing is easy
>> but a waste of pysical space, but the geometric parameters for the pickup
>> motor might be the challenge.
>>
>> You might to pick up the problem by thinking of the athletics runners who
>> run around a (almost) circle. What if ..
>>
>> no Hell.
>
>No Hell? Then where are all those people and inanimate objects that
>annoy me going to go? Where am *I* going to go?

The Hotel California?

Bill Wilkinson

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Dec 3, 2009, 1:29:13 AM12/3/09
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John Lodder wrote:
> In article <3JSdndcCjsnm_ZPW...@earthlink.com>,
> William Wilkinson <billwi...@mindBOINGspring.com> wrote:
>> Magnus Mulqvist wrote:
>>> In article <C4SdnYuuL-n4tZ3W...@earthlink.com>,
>>> billwi...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:
>>>> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.
>>>>
>>> It should be faced as a challenge. The disc is easy, the casing is easy
>>> but a waste of pysical space, but the geometric parameters for the pickup
>>> motor might be the challenge.
>>>
>>> You might to pick up the problem by thinking of the athletics runners who
>>> run around a (almost) circle. What if ..
>>>
>>> no Hell.
>> No Hell? Then where are all those people and inanimate objects that
>> annoy me going to go? Where am *I* going to go?
>
> The Hotel California?

Come to thnik of it, that's kind of a hell, in a Stephen King Hell of a
Band sort of way.

Mircalla Mordenheim

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Dec 7, 2009, 10:05:29 AM12/7/09
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On 26 Nov, 11:03, William Wilkinson

<billwilkin...@mindBOINGspring.com> wrote:
> Magnus Mulqvist wrote:
> > In article <C4SdnYuuL-n4tZ3WnZ2dnUVZ_oydn...@earthlink.com>,
> > billwilkin...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:

> >> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.
>
> > It should be faced as a challenge. The disc is easy, the casing is easy
> > but a waste of pysical space, but the geometric parameters for the pickup
> > motor might be the challenge.
>
> > You might to pick up the problem by thinking of the athletics runners who
> > run around a (almost) circle. What if ..
>
> > no Hell.
>
> No Hell?  Then where are all those people and inanimate objects that
> annoy me going to go?  Where am *I* going to go?
>
> --Bill

Detroit?

-mm (Not slow..)

John Lodder

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Dec 10, 2009, 5:15:56 PM12/10/09
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In article <1586b304-87c4-4608...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

No Exit.

>-mm (Not slow..)

(In Camera.)

Bill Wilkinson

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Dec 11, 2009, 6:26:22 AM12/11/09
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John Lodder wrote:
> In article <1586b304-87c4-4608...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Mircalla Mordenheim <bela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Nov, 11:03, William Wilkinson
>> <billwilkin...@mindBOINGspring.com> wrote:
>>> Magnus Mulqvist wrote:
>>>> In article <C4SdnYuuL-n4tZ3WnZ2dnUVZ_oydn...@earthlink.com>,
>>>> billwilkin...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:
>>>>> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.
>>>> It should be faced as a challenge. The disc is easy, the casing is easy
>>>> but a waste of pysical space, but the geometric parameters for the pickup
>>>> motor might be the challenge.
>>>> You might to pick up the problem by thinking of the athletics runners who
>>>> run around a (almost) circle. What if ..
>>>> no Hell.
>>> No Hell? Then where are all those people and inanimate objects that
>>> annoy me going to go? Where am *I* going to go?
>>>
>>> --Bill
>> Detroit?
>
> No Exit.

Windsor. No, wait. Yer right.

>> -mm (Not slow..)
>
> (In Camera.)

John Lodder

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Dec 11, 2009, 11:31:22 AM12/11/09
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In article <Euqdna5Ieo__sb_W...@earthlink.com>,

Bill Wilkinson <billwi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>John Lodder wrote:
>> In article <1586b304-87c4-4608...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> Mircalla Mordenheim <bela...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 26 Nov, 11:03, William Wilkinson
>>> <billwilkin...@mindBOINGspring.com> wrote:
>>>> Magnus Mulqvist wrote:
>>>>> In article <C4SdnYuuL-n4tZ3WnZ2dnUVZ_oydn...@earthlink.com>,
>>>>> billwilkin...@mindspring.com mumbles as follows:
>>>>>> Creating a square HDD would be an engineering nightmare.
>>>>> It should be faced as a challenge. The disc is easy, the casing is easy
>>>>> but a waste of pysical space, but the geometric parameters for the pickup
>>>>> motor might be the challenge.
>>>>> You might to pick up the problem by thinking of the athletics runners who
>>>>> run around a (almost) circle. What if ..
>>>>> no Hell.
>>>> No Hell? Then where are all those people and inanimate objects that
>>>> annoy me going to go? Where am *I* going to go?
>>>>
>>>> --Bill
>>> Detroit?
>>
>> No Exit.
>
>Windsor. No, wait. Yer right.

Antelope Freeway...

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