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Feb 20, 2006, 6:51:36 PM2/20/06
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The little one biting into a pecan, chocolate chip cookie looked
at old Grandpapa fill his pipe with tobacco, and after watching puffs
of white smoke leave his mouth, the little one heard the old man
continue the explanation of why some pretend. "The people who pretend
really think sometimes that their feelings inside matter more than the
knowledge outside. Anybody in their right mind can tell an anus is not
a cunt.
Sometimes they get away with those beliefs for a while but never for
very
long..."

Grandpapa paused then smiled, remembering the fag at the hospital. His
claw reached for a cookie. "Yes indeed, never for very long," he
continued before taking a bite out of the warm cookie.

-dark secrets

This, strange, is what I was referring to, when I wrote in my FAQ, when
I heard one of my friends talk about HIV and Africa, that I thought
somehow contributed to helping the stop of HIV.


Now that I read it again, even read the story again, I don't think I
have really, what I think I was writing about here is more the dilemma
everybody feels when their feelings conflict with stuff on the outside,
and what eventually happens or doesn't happen. I mean how many times
has someone done the opposite of how they felt, or how many times has
someone done what they felt like opposite to what was on the outside? I
feel that I shouldn't connect this passage with my attempt to
offering a suggestion about doing something about HIV but that's
where my mind went when I heard one of my friends talk about the
subject so that why I'm putting it here.


None-the-less, everything aside, I feel that something can be done
about HIV, it is something I can't ignore anymore because better
people, heck, even whole organizations are working on it.

Ok. This is where I am starting.

Why, after more then twenty years, AIDS, HIV has not been halted. Is it
because no one has found a cure, is it because none of the prevention
measures has been successful, is it because AIDS, HIV, is something
that can't be stopped by the actions of people? Why can't a goal be
set, like, no one will be infected by AIDS in, in any community, say,
Cape Town, Zinder, Odessa, even the community where I am, El Paso, TX.

I don't know why after more than twenty years AIDS hasn't been
halted.

AIDS is only acquired after someone with AIDS has sex, exchanges
needles, with someone that doesn't. This is the only premise that
I'm going to use. And I am going to use a community, El Paso, TX.

If AIDS can only be acquired after sex, or exchanging needles, then it
makes sense that people with AIDS don't have sex or exchange needle
with people that don't. Now how is this going to happen? I believe
that if those people infected with AIDS were to get together, start an
organization in their community, for support, friendship, that they
would do more to stop AIDS and maybe finding a cure. Now there are tons
of organizations out there, from organizations re prevention to one who
provide medical care, and yet AIDS continues to infect and ruin people
lives. This organization has to be different than any that are
currently around now.

Now say that there were twenty thousand people in El Paso that have
AIDS, HIV. Now say if those twenty thousand people got together and
started an organization, would that be bad? There is nothing to stop
people from getting together that share something in common. Maybe by
them getting together, it would encourage others to get tested that may
not know they are infected. The only difficult matter is the
segregation that may have to happen and a different kind of lifestyle.

Now there were arguments in the past that talked about segregating
people by identifying them, like with a scarlet letter, by some outside
agencies. What if people with AIDS started to do that themselves
without any outside governing agency, not to segregate themselves, but
to really doing something about the disease that is ruining a lot of
people lives.


If those twenty thousand people in El Paso, would form, get together,
and meet, instead of acting like everything is normal, cure right
around the corner, then maybe another person doesn't have to be
infected, lost, in between all sorts of organizations, none of them
doing nothing, none of them really run by people with HIV, look at the
last twenty years. Why can't people that are sick, admit to
themselves that everything is normal, and that maybe something has to
be done before another person has to infected.

I going to write more about this, just had to post whatever I had now,
so it's incomplete but I hope the general idea is understandable: why
can't people with AIDS, HIV, no outside agency being involved, start
an organization, a community, unlike any around.

bumnut

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Feb 21, 2006, 12:23:18 AM2/21/06
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The little one biting into a pecan, chocolate chip cookie looked at old
Grandpapa fill his pipe with tobacco, and after watching puffs of white
smoke leave his mouth, the little one heard the old man continue the
explanation of why some pretend. "The people who pretend really think
sometimes that their feelings inside matter more than the knowledge
outside.

Anybody in their right mind can tell an anus is not a cunt. Sometimes
they get away with those beliefs for a while but never for very
long..." Grandpapa paused then smiled, remembering the fag at the
hospital. His claw reached for a cookie. "Yes indeed, never for very
long," he continued before taking a bite out of the warm cookie.


-dark secrets


This, strange, is what I was referring to, when I wrote in my FAQ, when
I heard one of my friends talk about HIV and Africa, that I thought

somehow contributed to help stopping HIV.

Now that I read it again, even read the story again, I don't think I
have really, what I think I was writing about here is more the dilemma
everybody feels when their feelings conflict with stuff on the outside,
and what eventually happens or doesn't happen. I mean how many times
has someone done the opposite of how they felt, or how many times has
someone done what they felt like opposite to what was on the outside? I
feel that I shouldn't connect this passage with my attempt to
offering a suggestion about doing something about HIV but that's
where my mind went when I heard one of my friends talk about the
subject so that why I'm putting it here.

None-the-less, I feel that something can be done about HIV; it is


something I can't ignore anymore because better people, heck, even
whole organizations are working on it.

Ok. This is where I am starting.

Why, after more than twenty years, AIDS has not been halted? This is a
question that has to be asked. This is a question that has to be asked
because AIDS can be prevented. There is no reason why, after more than
twenty years, somebody has to find out tomorrow that they have been
infected. And yet it seems like everything is being done to stop this
disease from spreading.

Is it because no one has found a cure? A cure is for the people that
have already been infected. A vaccination of sorts would prevent AIDS;
and that could only happen if someone where able to find a strain that
was weak enough not to harm the host and yet prime the immune system of
the host to fight the stain that was killing people; this might done by
any number of ways, for instance, taking the virus and having it
multiply and multiply, exposing it or not, to radiation, environments,
etc., until one of them mutates to the form that will not harm people;
finding this mutated form proves to be the difficult part, if anything
closest example, would be like someone blind planting red roses, season
after season, to hopefully getting one blue rose, hoping they would be
able to know the difference by scent. If this is ever to happen, more
resources have to be devoted. As for the cure, it is something to
devote one's life to finding for the people already infected. But it
still remains, why hasn't AIDS been stopped.

Is it because none of the prevention measures have been successful? And
there are a lot of them, from having protected sex, to having no sex,
to having sex with only one sexual partner, each involving a
methodology. If protected sex stops AIDS then why is it spreading? If
having no sex stops AIDS then why is it still spreading? If not having
multiple partners stops AIDS then why is it spreading? For the people
that have not been infected, this appears to be working, and yet for
other people they find out that they have been infected because they
had unprotected sex, or sex with multiple partners, or. . . There is
something missing from these lines of attack, because, if it was only a
matter of educating someone then AIDS would be close to making its
final exit. AIDS can be stopped by the actions of people.

So ,why, after more than twenty years, AIDS hasn't been stopped. Why


can't a goal be set, like, no one will be infected by AIDS in, in any
community, say, Cape Town, Zinder, Odessa, even the community where I
am, El Paso, TX.

I think that people already infected aren't being allowed to do
enough. Bare with me.

AIDS is only acquired after someone with AIDS has sex, exchanges

needles, with someone that doesn't, right?


If AIDS can only be acquired after sex, or exchanging needles, then it

makes sense that people with AIDS don't have sex or exchange needles


with people that don't. Now how is this going to happen?

I believe that if those people infected with AIDS were to get together,

start an organization in their community, for support, for friendship,
that they would do more to stop AIDS and maybe somehow finding a cure.

Now there are tons of organizations out there, from organizations re

prevention, education, to one who provide medical care, and yet AIDS
continues to spread and ruin people lives. So what would another of
them do? This organization has to be different than any that are
currently around now, this organization, a community, would have to be
unlike anything imaginable.

Now say that there were twenty thousand people in El Paso that have

AIDS, HIV. And say that there were ten thousand people that didn't
know they have AIDS.

Now say those twenty thousand people got together and started an
organization, very much like one that attends a local church every
Sunday, or one that gets together to play softball every Wednesday
night and has a couple of beers somewhere after practice. There is


nothing to stop people from getting together that share something in

common. This would provide something that it appears everything else
hasn't.

Maybe by getting people infected by AIDS together, it would encourage
others to get tested. Maybe there would be somewhere to turn to,
somewhere to go to meet other people, instead of what has been
happening, someone finds outs and then what, other people trying to
make their life as normal as possible. I mean if a community can get
people together to fill a stadium, then why can't people get together
in a community that share something in common on their own.

There is difficulty in doing this. For one thing, nobody wants to be
labeled, segregated, can you imagine, twenty thousand people in a
community each with a tattoo, meeting and stuff. And another, nobody
may want to change their lifestyle, one that maybe, to be as normal as
possible, which is the only way to do well, to have any meaning.

There might be a strong opposition to segregation. And there might be a
strong opposition to allowing people the ability to live the way they
want to live. Look at all that has happen by allowing one group
segregate another, time and time again.

I think that a form of segregation and lifestyle change is unavoidable
once anyone decides to be a part of an organization, especially one
unlike any around, because it involves AIDS.

That's why this organization must be allowed to be formed by people
that will make a choice on their own, to become a member, to be
identified as a member. What I mean by that is that, only people with
AIDS will make this happen, will be the only ones able to provide
support to each other, will be the only ones to stop AIDS from
spreading.

Do people really care about doing something about the disease that is
ruining a lot of people lives? You know, you may say I have AIDS, I'm
not infecting other people, as a matter of fact I doing as much as
possible to prevent and find a cure. Then I would ask you, why hasn't
it stopped spreading, you're not doing enough, you don't care about
someone else enough to. You know what scared me waiting for the results
of my AIDS test, that if the results came back positive I would be
alone, no where to go, no one to turn to, because there is nothing,
only to pretend like I was still normal. If twenty thousand people know
they have AIDS, HIV, why can't they get together for the ten thousand
that don't, for the people around them, instead of acting like
everything is normal, cure right around the corner, while another and
another person gets infected. Instead you have in a community, one
person belonging to this support group, one belonging to another, one
just going to medical, another just on the internet, another alone
somewhere, others writing, making movies, some not deciding to get
tested, all sharing something in common and yet doing nothing to really
stopping the disease.

Fuck, If those twenty thousand people in any community, would form, get
together, like fill a stadium, bond, be there, then maybe another


person doesn't have to be infected, lost, in between all sorts of
organizations, none of them doing nothing, none of them really run by

people with AIDS, HIV, look at the last twenty years, do I need anymore
proof. Why can't people that know they have AIDS, admit to themselves
that everything is not normal, and that the only chance they have to
doing something about it, maybe one of the hardest things they do, for
another person, for a person they love. And yet maybe find something,
or allowing someone else to find something, even if they are just
sitting somewhere waiting for the results of a test, a place to go,
even if is it, just someone to talk to, meet, belong.

I going to write more about this, just had to post whatever I had now,

#2, so it's incomplete but I hope the general idea is understandable:


why can't people with AIDS, HIV, no outside agency being involved,

start an organization, a community, unlike any around?

bumnut

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Feb 21, 2006, 8:26:37 PM2/21/06
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The little one biting into a pecan, chocolate chip cookie looked at old
Grandpapa fill his pipe with tobacco, and after watching puffs of white
smoke leave his mouth, the little one heard the old man continue the
explanation of why some pretend. "The people who pretend really think
sometimes that their feelings inside matter more than the
knowledge outside.
Anybody in their right mind can tell an anus is not a cunt. Sometimes
they get away with those beliefs for a while but never for very
long..."
Grandpapa paused then smiled, remembering the fag at the hospital. His
claw reached for a cookie. "Yes indeed, never for very long," he
continued before taking a bite out of the warm cookie.


-dark secrets


This, strange, is what I was referring to, when I wrote in my FAQ, when
I heard one of my friends talk about HIV and Africa, that I thought

somehow contributed to help stopping AIDS.

Now that I read it again, even read the story again, I don't think I

have really in that sense, in the sense of having it attached to
something or someone real here, I never knew anybody who had AIDS, HIV,
only that it was around, only by what I seen or heard in popular media,


what I think I was writing about here is more the dilemma everybody
feels when their feelings conflict with stuff on the outside, and what
eventually happens or doesn't happen. I mean how many times has
someone done the opposite of how they felt, or how many times has
someone done what they felt like opposite to what was on the outside? I

sort of felt that I shouldn't connect this passage with my attempt to
offering a suggestion about doing something about AIDS, because of
people's feelings, because of how it might make someone feel, but


that's where my mind went when I heard one of my friends talk about

the subject, so that why I'm putting it here, not to hurt anyone, but
for what has been happening on the outside, this disease is continuing
to spread, and believe it or not, I don't like the feeling that
enough is being done to stop it.

I feel that something can be done about AIDS; I feel something has to
be done; it is something I can't ignore anymore because better


people, heck, even whole organizations are working on it.

Ok. This is where I am starting, with a question.

Why, after more than twenty years and resource after resource, why
can't AIDS be stopped? This is a question that has to be asked. This


is a question that has to be asked because AIDS can be prevented. There
is no reason why, after more than twenty years, somebody has to find
out tomorrow that they have been infected. And yet it seems like

everything is being done, been done, to stop this disease from
spreading. Why can't AIDS be stopped?

Is it because no one has found a cure? A cure is for the people that
have already been infected. A vaccination of sorts would prevent AIDS;
and that could only happen if someone where able to find a strain that

was weak enough not to harm the host, not to mention one that could be
identified by the immune system, priming the immune system of the host


to fight the stain that was killing people; this might done by any
number of ways, for instance, taking the virus and having it multiply
and multiply, exposing it or not, to radiation, environments, etc.,
until one of them mutates to the form that will not harm people;
finding this mutated form proves to be the difficult part, if anything
closest example, would be like someone blind planting red roses, season
after season, to hopefully getting one blue rose, hoping they would be
able to know the difference by scent. If this is ever to happen, more
resources have to be devoted.

Is it because none of the prevention measures have been successful?

Protected sex stops AIDS; no sex stops AIDS;
sex with only one sexual partner stops AIDS. AIDS can be stopped by the
actions of people. Yet there is something missing from these lines of


attack, because, if it was only a matter of educating someone then AIDS
would be close to making its final exit.


Or is it because of demographics, some people within communities will
just get the disease and there is nothing that can be done about it?
Homosexuals will get the disease because of their behaviors; so will
the prostitute; so will anyone else that, does some, as natural, as a
sigh. Even though AIDS affects people no matter where they are
demographically, more time than not, you read about the people that
share the same demographics being infected time and time again.

Why can't AIDS be stopped? "After more than twenty years."

No cure has been found.

None of the preventive measures work.

People can't do anything about AIDS.

Maybe it is because something is missing from each of them. I think
that people already infected aren't being allowed to do enough. Bear
with me.

AIDS is only acquired after someone with AIDS has sex, exchanges
needles, with someone that doesn't, right?
If AIDS can only be acquired after sex, or exchanging needles, then it
makes sense that people with AIDS don't have sex or exchange needles
with people that don't. Now how is this going to happen?

People infected with AIDS, HIV, get together, start an organization in
their community, for support, for friendship, for stopping AIDS once
and for all.

Now, you might say, there are tons of organizations out there, from


organizations re prevention, education, to one who provide medical

care, so what would another of them do?

This organization has to be different than any that are currently

around now, this organization, a community or sorts, would have to be
unlike anything imaginable.

For example, say that there were twenty thousand people in El Paso that
have AIDS, HIV, and say that there were ten thousand people that


didn't know they have AIDS. Now say those twenty thousand people got
together and started an organization, very much like one that attends a
local church every Sunday, or one that gets together to play softball
every Wednesday night and has a couple of beers somewhere after
practice. There is nothing to stop people from getting together that
share something in common. This would provide something that it appears
everything else hasn't. Maybe by getting people infected by AIDS
together, it would encourage others to get tested. Maybe there would be
somewhere to turn to, somewhere to go to meet other people, instead of
what has been happening, someone finds outs and then what, other people
trying to make their life as normal as possible. I mean if a community
can get people together to fill a stadium, then why can't people get
together in a community that share something in common on their own.


. . .

bumnut

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together, it would encourage others to get tested; maybe there would be


somewhere to turn to, somewhere to go to meet other people, instead of
what has been happening, someone finds outs and then what, other people
trying to make their life as normal as possible. I mean if a community
can get people together to fill a stadium, then why can't people get
together in a community that share something in common on their own.

The only purpose of the group would not just be the prevention of AIDS,
but, other stuff, like getting people together that share something in
common, to finding a cure, to just being able to have somewhere,
someone, to turn to.

There is difficulty in doing this. For one thing, nobody wants to be
labeled, segregated, can you imagine, twenty thousand people in a

community, meeting and stuff, different than everybody else. Another,


nobody may want to change their lifestyle, one that maybe, to be as

normal as possible. And another involves demographics, can people that
share the same demographics, to people with different demographics, get
together and make something work.

There might be a strong opposition to segregation. And there might be a
strong opposition to allowing people the ability to live the way they
want to live. Look at all that has happen by allowing one group

segregate another, time and time again. Look what has happened by
forcing someone to live the way they way they don't want to. Look
what has happen by combining people together from different cultures,
ethnicities, backgrounds.

I think that a form of segregation and lifestyle change is unavoidable
once anyone decides to be a part of an organization, especially one

unlike any around, because it involves AIDS, and doing something about
AIDS, HIV.

That's why this organization must be allowed to be formed by people
that will make a choice on their own, to become a member, to be
identified as a member. What I mean by that is that, only people with

AIDS, HIV, will make this happen, will be the only ones able to provide


support to each other, will be the only ones to stop AIDS from

spreading, will the only ones that will make the cure a possibility.

Do people really care about doing something about the disease that is
ruining a lot of people lives? You know, you may say I have AIDS, I'm
not infecting other people, as a matter of fact I doing as much as
possible to prevent and find a cure. Then I would ask you, why hasn't
it stopped spreading, you're not doing enough, you don't care about

someone else enough to. I wouldn't really say that. It's just after
twenty years something needs to happen, even if it does hurt people's
feelings. You know what scared me waiting for the results of my AIDS


test, that if the results came back positive I would be alone, no where
to go, no one to turn to, because there is nothing, only to pretend
like I was still normal. If twenty thousand people know they have AIDS,
HIV, why can't they get together for the ten thousand that don't,
for the people around them, instead of acting like everything is
normal, cure right around the corner, while another and another person
gets infected. Instead you have in a community, one person belonging to
this support group, one belonging to another, one just going to
medical, another just on the internet, another alone somewhere, others
writing, making movies, some not deciding to get tested, all sharing

something in common and yet doing nothing to really stopping or doing
something about the disease.

If those twenty thousand people in any community, would form, get
together, like fill a stadium, bond, be there, then maybe another
person doesn't have to be infected, lost, in between all sorts of
organizations, none of them doing nothing, none of them really run by
people with AIDS, HIV, look at the last twenty years, do I need anymore
proof.

Why can't people that know they have AIDS, admit to themselves that
everything is not normal, and that the only chance they have to doing
something about it, maybe one of the hardest things they do, for
another person, for a person they love.

I don't like writing this but maybe because something else might be
more important; AIDS, HIV, is a disease with an incubation period of
years that allows a person to live a normal life, when the prodromal
symptoms appear they are often vague, corrected by medical treatment;
this allows for people to think they don't have to be test, to people
who think that they maybe not even have the disease after all. A normal
life is more important to have, to hold on to, whatever a normal life
means to a person, then, then stopping the spread of AIDS.

I going to write more about this, just had to post whatever I had now,

#3, so it's incomplete but I hope the general idea is understandable:

bumnut

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Feb 22, 2006, 9:59:15 PM2/22/06
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identified by the host's immune system, priming the immune system of


the host to fight the stain that was killing people; this might done by
any number of ways, for instance, taking the virus and having it
multiply and multiply, exposing it or not, to radiation, environments,
etc., until one of them mutates to the form that will not harm people;
finding this mutated form proves to be the difficult part, if anything
closest example, would be like someone blind planting red roses, season
after season, to hopefully getting one blue rose, hoping they would be
able to know the difference by scent. If this is ever to happen, more
resources have to be devoted.

Is it because none of the prevention measures each with different
methodologies have been successful? Protected sex stops AIDS; no sex


stops AIDS; sex with only one sexual partner stops AIDS. AIDS can be
stopped by the actions of people. Yet there is something missing from
these lines of attack, because, if it was only a matter of educating

someone, having someone believe, then AIDS would be close to making its
final exit.

Or, is it because of demographics, some people within communities will


just get the disease and there is nothing that can be done about it?
Homosexuals will get the disease because of their behaviors; so will

the prostitute; so will anyone else that, does something, as natural,


as a sigh. Even though AIDS affects people no matter where they are
demographically, more time than not, you read about the people that
share the same demographics being infected time and time again.

Why can't AIDS be stopped? "After more than twenty years."

No cure has been found.

None of the preventive measures work.

People can't do anything about preventing AIDS.

Maybe AIDS is still spreading because something is missing from two of
them. As for the other, I think that people already infected no matter
where they are demographically, aren't being allowed to do enough,
that is what is missing, bear with me.

AIDS is only acquired after someone with AIDS has sex, exchanges
needles, with someone that doesn't, right? If AIDS can only be
acquired after sex, or exchanging needles, then it makes sense that
people with AIDS don't have sex or exchange needles with people that
don't. Now how is this going to happen?

People infected with AIDS, HIV, will get together, start an


organization in their community, for support, for friendship, for
stopping AIDS once and for all.

Now, you might say, there are tons of organizations out there, from
organizations re prevention, education, to one who provide medical

care, hope for a cure, so what would another of them do?

want to live. Look at all that has happened by allowing one group


segregate another, time and time again. Look what has happened by
forcing someone to live the way they way they don't want to. Look
what has happen by combining people together from different cultures,
ethnicities, backgrounds.

I think that a form of segregation and lifestyle change is unavoidable

once anyone decides to be a part of an organization, be identified as
being a part of that organization, especially one unlike any around,
because it involves AIDS.

That's why this organization must be allowed to be formed by people
that will make a choice on their own, to become a member, to be
identified as a member. What I mean by that is that, only people with

proof. "More than twenty years, and still someone has to wake up
tomorrow and find out they have AIDS."

Why can't people that know they have AIDS, admit to themselves that
everything is not normal, and that the only chance they have to doing
something about it, maybe one of the hardest things they do, for
another person, for a person they love.

Why can't a goal be set, like, no one will be infected by AIDS in,
say in any community. Why can't people make that happen?

I don't like writing this but maybe because something else might be

more important; AIDS, HIV, is a disease with a incubation period of


years that allows a person to live a normal life, when the prodromal
symptoms appear they are often vague, corrected by medical treatment;

these allow for people to think they don't have to be test, to people


who think that they maybe not even have the disease after all. A normal
life is more important to have, to hold on to, whatever a normal life

means to a person, then, stopping the spread of AIDS.


I going to write more about this, just had to post whatever I had now,

#3.1, so it's incomplete but I hope the general idea is


understandable: why can't people with AIDS, HIV, no outside agency
being involved, start an organization, a community, unlike any around

to stop the spread of AIDS?

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