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Re: Comics that continue a series... [Star Trek]
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Duggy
Apr 24, 2012, 6:23:09 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 4:08 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Obviously, the new Star Trek ongoing *is* a canon continuation of the
> reboot, designed to adapt episodes of the original series into the new
> continuity and "executive produced" ala Whedon by the movie's writers
> Kurtzmann and Orci. Allegedly, some of the changes that have been made
> to fit the existing stories into the reboot continuity are supposed to
> lead into the second movie.
Hmmm... interview I read with Orci said otherwise. "Is continuity
unless later changed" type of statements.
But, anyway, I said "Not tie-in comics released during the series or
that tell stories
within the series... " which it sort of does.
> DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.
> Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could
> be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as
> far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)
> should be considered Trek canon.
True. An official continuation by no means means it is better than
"non-canon" comics.
Some of the old boot Star Trek comics must have continued from series/
movies.
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= DUG.
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> Obviously, the new Star Trek ongoing *is* a canon continuation of the
> reboot, designed to adapt episodes of the original series into the new
> continuity and "executive produced" ala Whedon by the movie's writers
> Kurtzmann and Orci. Allegedly, some of the changes that have been made
> to fit the existing stories into the reboot continuity are supposed to
> lead into the second movie.
Hmmm... interview I read with Orci said otherwise. "Is continuity
unless later changed" type of statements.
But, anyway, I said "Not tie-in comics released during the series or
that tell stories
within the series... " which it sort of does.
> DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.
> Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could
> be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as
> far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)
> should be considered Trek canon.
True. An official continuation by no means means it is better than
"non-canon" comics.
Some of the old boot Star Trek comics must have continued from series/
movies.
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= DUG.
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Rob Jensen
May 1, 2012, 12:14:26 AM5/1/12
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:23:09 -0700 (PDT), Duggy
<p.allan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.
>> Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could
>> be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as
>> far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)
>> should be considered Trek canon.
>
>True. An official continuation by no means means it is better than
>"non-canon" comics.
In absolute terms, yes, there can be bad canon comics, but IMO canon
<p.allan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> DC's two Star Trek: TOS series, especially the runs written by Mike W.
>> Barr and Peter David weren't canon, but were written as if they could
>> be with regards to actual character development. And I'm gonna go as
>> far as to argue that Peter David's runs (and, of course, his novels)
>> should be considered Trek canon.
>
>True. An official continuation by no means means it is better than
>"non-canon" comics.
comics (and even the various Trek continuations, especially DS9's,
which are not necessarily continuity but have become essentially their
own alternate canon) are *more likely* to be better than non-canon,
non-continuity, "hit the cosmic reset button at the end" stories
because the addition of actual character development means that the
stories become far less formulaic.
>Some of the old boot Star Trek comics must have continued from series/
>movies.
of PAD's characters from his first TOS run was later featured in his
first TNG novel, Strike Zone.
-- Rob
Duggy
May 1, 2012, 1:53:17 AM5/1/12
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On May 1, 2:14 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
> In absolute terms, yes, there can be bad canon comics, but IMO canon
> comics (and even the various Trek continuations, especially DS9's,
> which are not necessarily continuity but have become essentially their
> own alternate canon) are *more likely* to be better than non-canon,
> non-continuity, "hit the cosmic reset button at the end" stories
> because the addition of actual character development means that the
> stories become far less formulaic.
Agreed. But there are no guarantees.
> In absolute terms, yes, there can be bad canon comics, but IMO canon
> comics (and even the various Trek continuations, especially DS9's,
> which are not necessarily continuity but have become essentially their
> own alternate canon) are *more likely* to be better than non-canon,
> non-continuity, "hit the cosmic reset button at the end" stories
> because the addition of actual character development means that the
> stories become far less formulaic.
> >Some of the old boot Star Trek comics must have continued from series/
> >movies.
> The two TOS series from DC weaved in and out of the Trek movies. One
> of PAD's characters from his first TOS run was later featured in his
> first TNG novel, Strike Zone.
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= DUG.
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