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Space Cowboy

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May 7, 2009, 1:21:33 AM5/7/09
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So far in all the trailers and TV spots we see Kirk as a cocky
bastard.
Yet in Shore Leave he tells Dr. McKoy that he was absolutely grim,
being harrassed by upperclassmen,especially Finnegan [thank you
DC for showing us where,in a non-canon way,Finnegan ended up..
Starfleet Security, no less as an internal affairs type].
Will Finnegan be there in this or the next to knock Kirk down a
peg or two? Will be interesting.

Unable to see it Thursday or Friday....will go on Saturday.


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Corman,producer,low budget but fun to watch]
Must See: "The Magnificent Seven" & "The Seven Samurai"
"Classic" Trekker and now a Browncoat!

Wouter Valentijn

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May 7, 2009, 4:48:29 PM5/7/09
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"Space Cowboy" <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.com> schreef in bericht
news:Xns9C04DD4CA864H...@85.214.105.209...

> So far in all the trailers and TV spots we see Kirk as a cocky
> bastard.
> Yet in Shore Leave he tells Dr. McKoy that he was absolutely grim,
> being harrassed by upperclassmen,especially Finnegan [thank you
> DC for showing us where,in a non-canon way,Finnegan ended up..
> Starfleet Security, no less as an internal affairs type].

Good story!

> Will Finnegan be there in this or the next to knock Kirk down a
> peg or two? Will be interesting.
>
> Unable to see it Thursday or Friday....will go on Saturday.


Uhm... How much do you know already?
I believe it really *is* a new Kirk.
I don't think we can rely too much on information we already have watching
the original series.

--
Wouter Valentijn www.j3v.net

"In this galaxy there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth
type planets, and in all the universe three million million galaxies like
this, and in all of that, and perhaps more, only one of each of us. Don't
destroy the one named Kirk."

McCoy to Kirk, in the episode "Balance of Terror"

liam=mail


Space Cowboy

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May 10, 2009, 5:26:57 AM5/10/09
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"Wouter Valentijn" <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote in
news:4a03491f$0$183$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl:

>
>>
>> Unable to see it Thursday or Friday....will go on Saturday.
>
>
> Uhm... How much do you know already?
> I believe it really *is* a new Kirk.

Yes it is.....changed by too many events that went wrong in this
time line but this old fart in a second viewing(without the seat
kickers behind me) got really into it and even with the changes I'm
really into the Abrams vision, so refreshing from the Berman vomit.

As for the Warsies who critisize, no spoilers but here there was
plenty of product placement and brand names.....so the UFP may be
socialist as in everybody eats and has a roof but not communist as
was critisized in the past.

I love the apparently faster warp drive! Maybe Abrams and co. have
read the booklet that came with "The Star Trek Maps" too.

> I don't think we can rely too much on information we already have
> watching the original series.
>

No, as that other Doctor with the Blue Box might say, 'That universe
still exists but is now locked in a loop of its' own, and no math or
amount of energy will allow entrance. This new universe is the one
you must now live in for better or worse'.
Which opens up a can of worms, will Ambassador Spock reveal what he
knows, at least to Starfleet Security, about dangers still out there?


--
Origin: "Battle Beyond The Stars"[1980,George Peppard,actor.Roger
Corman,producer,low budget but fun to watch] Must See: "The

Magnificent Seven" & "The Seven Samurai" Starfleet in both
Prime(TOS) & Abrams`verses & Browncoat in another `verse!

Wouter Valentijn

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May 10, 2009, 7:48:03 AM5/10/09
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Space Cowboy wrote:
> "Wouter Valentijn" <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote in
> news:4a03491f$0$183$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl:
>
>>
>>>
>>> Unable to see it Thursday or Friday....will go on Saturday.
>>
>>
>> Uhm... How much do you know already?
>> I believe it really *is* a new Kirk.
>
> Yes it is.....changed by too many events that went wrong in this
> time line but this old fart in a second viewing(without the seat
> kickers behind me) got really into it and even with the changes I'm
> really into the Abrams vision, so refreshing from the Berman vomit.
>
> As for the Warsies who critisize, no spoilers but here there was
> plenty of product placement and brand names.....so the UFP may be
> socialist as in everybody eats and has a roof but not communist as
> was critisized in the past.
>
> I love the apparently faster warp drive! Maybe Abrams and co. have
> read the booklet that came with "The Star Trek Maps" too.

I think we know warp drive in Kirk's days was better than the one used by
the 24th century people.
My favorite example: "That Which Survives". Almost a 1,000 light years in
about 10 (solar) hours. Janeway would need about a year.

>
>> I don't think we can rely too much on information we already have
>> watching the original series.
>>
> No, as that other Doctor with the Blue Box might say, 'That universe
> still exists but is now locked in a loop of its' own, and no math or
> amount of energy will allow entrance. This new universe is the one
> you must now live in for better or worse'.

Unless they combine an ion storm and a transporter. :-)
Or any other method for intra universe traveling.

> Which opens up a can of worms, will Ambassador Spock reveal what he
> knows, at least to Starfleet Security, about dangers still out there?

He is no longer in his own timeline so there is no chance of err, spoiling,
his own.

Space Cowboy

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May 10, 2009, 10:47:08 AM5/10/09
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Wouter, do have the movie where you are?
Trying to keep my big mouth shut[spoilers] but its already laid out
over at trekmovie.com for all to see.

Space Cowboy

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May 10, 2009, 10:53:15 AM5/10/09
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"Wouter Valentijn" <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote in
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>
> He is no longer in his own timeline so there is no chance of err,
> spoiling, his own.
>
>

What I meant was secret runs to the 20th and 19th centuries to seed
Humpbacks in the 23rd so the whale probe never shows up.
Nomad and Voyager 6, the Botany Bay etc. Fans and non-fans will be
mulling over these for years now.

Wouter Valentijn

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May 10, 2009, 12:29:17 PM5/10/09
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Space Cowboy wrote:
> Wouter, do have the movie where you are?
> Trying to keep my big mouth shut[spoilers] but its already laid out
> over at trekmovie.com for all to see.

I never go to theaters and I think that within months I'll be able to get
the region 2 NL DVD.
Plus I frequently visit the alt.tv.star-trek.tos group. :-)

Wouter Valentijn

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May 10, 2009, 12:31:47 PM5/10/09
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Space Cowboy wrote:
> "Wouter Valentijn" <li...@valentijn.nu> wrote in
> news:4a06befa$0$197$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl:
>
>>
>> He is no longer in his own timeline so there is no chance of err,
>> spoiling, his own.
>>
>>
>
> What I meant was secret runs to the 20th and 19th centuries to seed
> Humpbacks in the 23rd so the whale probe never shows up.
> Nomad and Voyager 6, the Botany Bay etc. Fans and non-fans will be
> mulling over these for years now.

He could do all that. Or at least give information to that effect.

maddy19...@gmail.com

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