Awful Star Trek Voyager Moments
TMC
worc...@orclev.com
wrote:
>http://www.confusedmatthew.com/Awful-Star-Trek-Voyager-Moments.php
Yeah, Voyager was an Odyssey of One Bad Decision...with variations.
Frequently, Star Trek "heroes" acted like a morally superior jerk with
their Prime Directive. From Kirk's breaking PD to Janeway's array
explosion to Archer's failure to give a race a vaccine before there
WAS a Prime Directive. The impression is always, "Hey, we'll play
God, NOT you. Because we can, that means we are right." Not at ALL
different from any OTHER time in history. He with the gold makes the
rules.
Couple that with the magic James Bond ability of the Enterprise to
survive and you have a show for people who identify with self-deifying
entities.
Graeme
> The impression is always, "Hey, we'll play
> God, NOT you. Because we can, that means we are right." Not at ALL
> different from any OTHER time in history. He with the gold makes the
> rules.
Yes, but you see, the difference is that in the old way, people still
did things that were comprehensible and in their own self interest.
The new way, such as with Archer in Dear Doctor, they can do things
that make no sense from any point of view.
Brad Filippone
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 18:06:23 -0700 (PDT), TMC <tmc1...@gmail.com>
I just watched the video. I'll grant that the oversight in "The
Caretaker" is a major blunder, since the entire series depends on it.
The other points, however, struck me as just nitpicking. ANY series,
whether original Star Trek or Hill Street Blues, ER, or Law and Order
are going to have locigal flaws in them once in awhile.
I'm not sure why we're discussing Voyager on the Original Series
group, but as long as we are, I'll just say that I've been watching
the show again recently for the first time since it aired, and I'm
currently in Season Three. I have to admit that it's not the best
Star Trek out there by a long shot, but it's still mostly
entertaining.
And how could any list of bad Voyager moments fail to mention the
episode "Thresholds," often cited as one of the worst Trek episodes in
ANY series?
Brad
Anim8rFSK
worc...@orclev.com wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 18:06:23 -0700 (PDT), TMC <tmc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >http://www.confusedmatthew.com/Awful-Star-Trek-Voyager-Moments.php
>
>
> Yeah, Voyager was an Odyssey of One Bad Decision...with variations.
>
> Frequently, Star Trek "heroes" acted like a morally superior jerk with
> their Prime Directive. From Kirk's breaking PD to Janeway's array
> explosion to Archer's failure to give a race a vaccine before there
> WAS a Prime Directive.
Even if there had been a Prime Directive, it wouldn't have stopped him
from giving the vaccine to a space faring race, aware of other worlds,
that specifically asked for help. He just committed an act of genocide
against a planet because the Doctor didn't like them.
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Graeme
works, or anything like that. The rules change from episode to
episode, but the only time I remember it ever applying to a
spacefaring race was Patterns of Force. But even then it was unclear
as to whether Ekos WAS a spacefaring race before Gill interfered and
gave them the technology. The Zeons definitely were, and came there
before Gill did, but I don't think they gave them the tech. That
missile they fired was implied to be the direct result of Gill's
interference.
Anim8rFSK
<405b0c3e-49de-4bd0...@x2g2000prk.googlegroups.com>,
Graeme <graem...@aol.com> wrote:
Yeah, I've never been clear on the backstory there. It seems like some
Space Jews invaded Germany, and Germany didn't have the tech to strike
back, until a kindly historian intervened. You really have to wonder
why the Space Jews didn't just go home.
Assuming 'Zeon' is some corruption of 'Zion' does 'Ekos' mean anything?
SparkoHeaps
> In article
> <405b0c3e-49de-4bd0-a716-71080c16e...@x2g2000prk.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Graeme <graemec...@aol.com> wrote:
> > They've never been clear about exactly who the PD applies to, how it
> > works, or anything like that. The rules change from episode to
> > episode, but the only time I remember it ever applying to a
> > spacefaring race was Patterns of Force. But even then it was unclear
> > as to whether Ekos WAS a spacefaring race before Gill interfered and
> > gave them the technology. The Zeons definitely were, and came there
> > before Gill did, but I don't think they gave them the tech. That
> > missile they fired was implied to be the direct result of Gill's
> > interference.
>
> Yeah, I've never been clear on the backstory there. It seems like some
> Space Jews invaded Germany, and Germany didn't have the tech to strike
> back, until a kindly historian intervened. You really have to wonder
> why the Space Jews didn't just go home.
>
> Assuming 'Zeon' is some corruption of 'Zion' does 'Ekos' mean anything?
>
According the Encyclopedia of Speculative Fiction:
"The term "Ekos" is also a word in ancient and medieval Greek, meaning
Home or Earth. (The modern Greek spelling is "ecos".) This suggests
that the planet Ekos and the Ekosian race are analogies for the
brutality of 20th century humanity. "
Your Name
for Beavis & Butthead's awful "Enterprise" garbage. :-(