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Star Trek: Voyager (sometimes abbreviated ST:VGR, ST:VOY, ST:V, VGR,
or VOY) is a science fiction television series set in the Star Trek
universe. The show was created by Rick Berman, Michael Piller, and
Jeri Taylor and is the fourth incarnation of Star Trek, which began
with the 1960s series Star Trek, created by Gene Roddenberry. It was
produced for seven seasons, from 1995 to 2001, and is the only Star
Trek series to feature a female captain, Kathryn Janeway, as a lead
character. It ran on UPN, making it the first Star Trek series to air
on a major network since the original series which aired on NBC. It
was the only TV show on UPN to have seven seasons.
Wikipedia Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Voyager
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1 Warp 10 salamanders Paris breaks Warp 10 and "evolves" into lizard
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2 No sense of being lost For being stranded- no supply problems?
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3 7 of 9 joins And Kes is given the boot
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4 Day 1 Sucked from the start.
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5 Last episode We find out its a different Harry Kim
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6 Hologram Doc Lifts Solids?! Physically Impossible+ Unbelievably
Lame
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7 The Borg Kids As if 7 of 9 wasn't enough...
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8 Che Guevara references Despot + murderer "a great man" in 24th
century?
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9 Janeway as tough captain/mom? Too many roles to play. Make up your
mind!
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10 A very special... flashback
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11 Never Boned It still rocks
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1 During the "Year of Hell" episodes Janeway cuts off her hair than
when the timeline is Restored, the ship is perfect, the crew are
resurrected ,but oops Janeway's hair doesn't COME BAAAAAACK! UH OH
maybe some hair extensions 4 a few episodes 4 continuity! THIS IS a
defining BTF 4 the whole ST FRANCHISE!!!!! -- Submitted By: (ChrissyM)
on July 22, 2010, 7:47 pm
2 I can sum up Voyager in four words - "nice idea, poorly
implimented". This goes for everything about the show including the
concept itself, the characters and a lot of the individual episodes
too. It was watchable in places, but it just never really gripped me
the way TNG and DS9 did. The characters just stirred no feelings of
empathy from me, and it's kind of hard to like a show when you are
secretly hoping that most of the cast, including the 'main character'
would leave the show. -- Submitted By: (Piemaster) on May 24, 2010,
3:45 am
3 I remember reading a comment about Voyager that referred to it as
comfort food. That is what made Voyager both good and yet terrible at
the same time. Voyager was the sort of series where (in general) each
episode had stuff happen and it would end with everything back to
normal and no real lasting consequences for the main characters. You
more or less knew what you were getting. I think that's where the
comfort food aspect comes in. There was nothing really groundbreaking.
You could however, watch an episode knowing you'd get a nice little
adventure. Sometimes it was fun, sometimes not so fun but it was an
adventure nonetheless. Yes, there were redshirt deaths. I know people
didn't like it as let's face it, they left family and lives behind and
they're people too (well okay, it's just a TV show but you know what I
mean). Yes, there was some disturbing stuff but that and the redshirt
deaths were more common in the earlier seasons then the later. Even
then, there was often little to no worry of such a fate befalling a
main character. Even if something potentially life altering happening
to a main character they'd be back to normal by the next episode. Oh
sure, we'd occasionally have a very special episode where they gained
significant ground in their journey, say a year or two or maybe even
10 or 20 years closer to home. Fortunately, they'd remember that fact
afterward. That was where it was nice to see progress. There were some
that wanted to see Voyager more serialized and more serious. I can
understand this and I wonder what it would have been like had they
used a more serious tone. It might have been interesting to see (for
example) them gain technology and to use said technology in future
episodes and for us to get a sense of progression and danger from
their situation. We had some sense of danger in the early episodes and
a sense of progressing with the jumps and I think that was interesting
and showed potential. It might have been interesting to see what
Janeway would have done had their ideals been insufficient when it
came to survival. Seeing Janeway start off as the squeaky clean
Captain that could quote the Federation rule book in her sleep and end
up being much more hardened and even a bit cynical and willing to bend
and outright ignore the rules if it meant their survival could have
been an interesting study in just how far we're willing to go to live.
Sort of just how far is too far when it comes to surviving? When does
it get to the point where one needs to accept defeat because the cost
of victory (whether to oneself or others) is too high? Seeing them in
the situation where they might live, but at the cost of destroying
everything worth living for and what they'd to could have been
fascinating. Yes, it would have been more difficult to watch but it
might have been for far better viewing. In the end, Voyager was indeed
comfort food. Yes, it could have been a serious and deep series that
made us ask serious questions about morality. Even though they didn't
take that route (with a few episodes as exceptions), the episodes were
usually watchable and at least a passable way to spend an hour. --
Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on February 16, 2010, 12:12 am
4 I thought the cheesy modern-man-bashing and platitudes injected
into every five or ten episodes of Star Trek: TNG were bad. DS9
stepped back on it quite a bit, and even acknowledged that a socialist
utopia - as the Federation was until then portrayed; where no one
cheats, no one lies, no one murders, no one steals, and everyone can
just join hands and get along - cannot logically exist. That was
better in my book, but with Voyager -- OMFG the pendulum swung so far
in the other direction it was ridiculous. It *easily* overtook TNG for
preachiness by the end of the first season. -- Submitted By:
(Replicant10k) on September 27, 2009, 10:33 pm
5 I have been watching the episodes on DVD and I think that it really
is a great series. I did watch them when the series was on and had
forgotten how good they are. -- Submitted By: (AlanJames) on August
22, 2009, 9:55 am
6 I like the series did any of you even watch. I loved the sense of
urgency them being far out there brought to the team of the show. I
read most your comments and it seems like you want an exact replica of
STNG. Instead of a new spin on it. F.Y.I A series dies if you can't
pump new blood into it. What show were you watching they were running
out of resources all the time. Every other episode they had to go to a
planet to get something. I love STNG but I found DS9 abyssymally
boring baring the mirror universe episodes. As far as I'm concerned
Star Trek was on the critical list with STNG moving on and DEEP SPACE
boring me to tears. Star Voyager turned around for me. Gave me
something fresh to think about every week. If fact the non sequitor
episode is textbook Star Trek canon. -- Submitted By: (Yusiri86) on
August 8, 2009, 3:52 pm
7 The show was written as a stupid license to throw canon out the
window and serve as a "short story" series, as a Federation ship made
First Contact with a different sci-fi writer's crazy brainstorm every
episode, which was never to be seen again-- likewise somehow never
learning a single thing from ANY of the diverse technology or cultures
etc. that they encountered-- yep, to maintain the status quo, every
episode ended with the good ol' Gilligan's Island "reset button--"
which not only fixed the ship good as new, but also made their
findings useless. And when this got boring, producer Brannon Braga
went whoring-- turning the entire series into a casting-couch go get
his trophy-bimbo Jery Ryan to put out, by making her the "Mary Sue" of
the series-- which likewise served to do nothing but showcase her
monster-butt and be the center of attention, but somehow never have
sex with anyone because she's too good for it. This ruined it for any
remaining Star Trek fans in the audience-- both of them! -- Submitted
By: (SarahGoodwich) on May 10, 2009, 9:05 pm
8 Jumped on Day 1-- the ship gets kidnapped by an alien who looks
like the banjo-playing kid from "Deliverance?" And right next to Deep
Space Nine-- what is it about that area of the galaxy, that makes it
so attractive to wormhole-making aliens on the other side of the
galaxy? And even if you want to violate the Prime Directive and
intervene in affairs of other worlds: instead of DESTROYING the
wormhole-gizmo, why not just disable the Kazon ships, and then take
the gizmo for yourself? And what's with the Kazon ships having a
CHANCE against Voyager, when they don't even have warp-drive,
transporters, replicators etc? HELLO? Obviously, this series was
simply intended as a paradise for off-canon writing, i.e. for the
writers to go stark raving mad, throwing out all the rules and canon
of Star Trek, in order to indulge every crackpot short-story that the
idiots think is "cool" and suddenly make it official Star Trek canon,
no matter how ridiculous it was. This got old REALLY fast, and so
before long the entire series became simply a casting-couch for Rick
Berman to showcase his favorite bimbo, Jeri Ryan, to put out for him--
after she got tired of being a trophy-wife for her congressman-husband
who proved to be a perv, and so she decided that she "deserved" a
starring role as a "Mary Sue" character on a world-famous franchise-
show, upstaging the entire rest of the cast by taking over center-
stage; since after all, she thought she was a scientific genius as
well as a legendary actress (despite having zero evidence to suggest
either one). The move proved a fantastic success-- for her and Rick
Berman anyway, at only the expense of just the series, and any
remaining actual "Star Trek" fans in the audience. But the ratings
went up-- which is like Gary Coleman growing an inch taller: and with
the type of viewer who tuned in to watch the name changed from
"Voyager" to "Voyeur," since every shot was entirely dedicated to
showcasing Jeri Ryan and her monster butt. Guess the Borg won. --
Submitted By: (SarahGoodwich) on May 10, 2009, 8:41 pm
9 I recall thinking of Janeway as a politically correct "Space Mom"
trying to take care of everyone It made no sense in the situation the
writers had devised- marooned 100 years from home in a hostile area in
a high tech ship with no parts or service ports available to be
worried about every "injustice" or non-politically correct thing that
they found to keep taking time to "help out" and make things "right".
I just wanted to see the Borg assimilate them after a while. --
Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on April 16, 2009, 6:01 am
10 Where do I start? Rather than tell you off the bat where I think
this show jumped, let me describe the situation for you, and you tell
me: You are the member of a starship crew, sent on a mission that is
perilous, but not beyond your crew or ship's capabilities. You expect
to go retrieve 1 man from a small ship, and be back in time for
dinner. 3 days later, you're 70,000 light years from home, a lifetime
away from the nearest starbase, on a broken ship with over half the
crew dead, and no choice but to team up with your mortal enemies who
want to kill you and bleach your bones to use for hair combs the first
chance they get. You are in this situation because the Captain, rather
than fulfilling her solemn oath to safeguard the well being of her
crew and ship, or at least giving everyone a choice as to whether they
wanted to go on a suicide mission, decided to meddle in an
intergalactic affair, and drag the whole crew down with her. Now
you're stranded, on the other side of the galaxy, and to get home you
have to make your way through parsecs and parsecs of races that range
from merely ornery, well armed, vicious, and hateful, to so malevolent
and nigh omnipotent that they could steamroll the entire Federation
and the Alpha Quadrant in about a week. If they stop for tea time.
Being faced with this situation, would you A) put a phaser in your
mouth and pull the trigger? B) Shit yourself, and then A? C)
Cautiously try to get back home as quickly as possible, adhering to
Federation guidelines as the situation permits, but adapting to the
fact that Federation guidelines were developed for ships in a fleet
backed up by a nearby Federation of Planets, not one ship in hostile
territory on the other side of the galaxy? D) Throw the captain out of
a photon torpedo port, and then C? E) Go headlong into the situation,
explore out of the way every chance you get, and happily announce to
every big bad who would kill the men, rape the women, and eat the
children that you're here, from the Federation, and you have no
backup? When you understand that the entire premise of the show was E,
you'll see why people thought that this show was garbage. Science
aside, I have always liked the ST universe, more so than the Star Wars
or Babylon 5 universe (not saying that those aren't good as well). I
like that there is an effort at least to acknowledge that people try
to do better in the ST universe, as opposed to other fictional
universes, that are just as crapsack as our current reality, and no
one tries to have any higher standards than your common 21th century
thug. I think that sometimes ST may be a somewhat too unrealistic and
optimistic, but I think that the heart of the franchise was in the
right place. However Voyager took it to levels of ridiculousness
heretofore unknown to the franchise. Being more trusting, tolerant,
and respectful of your fellow man is one thing. Being a blind fool who
walks into danger and ignores their surroundings is another, and the
crew of Voyager did this so many times as to be nauseating. The
episode "The Void" was the worst example of this. The only reason that
episode (like so many other episodes in that series) worked out was
because the writers intervened and made some technobabble that got
everyone worth saving saved. In real life, piracy would have probably
been the only real option, and even if an alliance were formed, it
would probably require everyone in the alliance picking 1 ship, and
concentrating all of their resources on it, as if there isn't enough
fuel for 1 ship, sharing the fuel I don't have with another ship that
doesn't have enough doesn't help either of us. This is just one of
hundreds of examples where people act out of character, people do
things that no real person would do, arcane methods are used to
achieve goals that logically could be done easier with technology that
we have today, etc etc. The sad thing about this is, for the first 6
or so episodes, the series shows some promise, and there is some
serious tension amongst the crew members, and some serious questions
as to whether everyone is going to make it back home alive or not.
However this changes so fast, that it's almost a Day 1 Filleting.
Boned the fish on day 1. -- Submitted By: (castaghast) on April 15,
2009, 9:41 pm