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Hobo <hob...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Why oh why did they mess with the opening theme song? It sounds like
> they're trying to make a pop tune out of a good, original theme song. In
> the first season it was different than the previous series, but it was
> different and original like the show itself. Put it back to the way it was!
> B&B, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Spend your time avoiding rehashed
> plots, not tweaking the theme song. Opinions?
>
>
-DG
"DangerGirl®" <danger...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, Razor, that's what I was looking for.
-DG
Steering Enterprise toward the standard Star Trek model will be
disappointing because the "established ST canon" is tired, in my opinion.
I like the idea that the characters of Enterprise are more like pioneers and
don't have as much to rely on than the other shows (save Voyager). The
original theme reflects that idea better than the new, softened version.
b
"Victor L. Marshall" <vic...@netnitco.net> wrote in message
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No problem. =]
*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-Razor, The Beloved-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*
I don't like the new song either. Great show however. I like the new direction it's taken.
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/startrekenterprise/audio.html
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"Victor L. Marshall" <vic...@netnitco.net> wrote in message
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>I am in partial agreement. I hate the new theme song. It sounds like
>something from a hair-band in the '80s. I like the more traditional
>"classical" style of anthem with a fanfare.
There aren't many fans of the theme song that frequent this place. I
could tolerate it the first version but don't really care for the
remake myself. I have to say, though, I really like the photographs
shown in the background during the theme song. I do wish a nod had
been given to the Russian space program, however: first man in space,
first woman in space, first satellite in space ... you get the idea.
>Also, I was hoping for a more creative and less hackneyed plot line for the
>new show.
I've always held the opinion that a pre-Federation show was a rather
good idea. I feel in some ways the show has been good but in others
they have sort of let the fans down.
>And, sorry if I offend anyone, but Scott Bacula is hands down the
>worst actor on television.
Really? Did you ever seen him in "Quantum Leap" or the movie
"American Beauty" or "Lord of Illusions"? I thought he did an
outstanding job. Some people think he's wrong for the part, others
think it is the material he's given. Me? I think he is doing a
pretty good job in a great role.
>Archer could have been a more interesting character if a more
>accomplished actor had been cast in the role.
I don't think too many people would argue that Bakula is not an
accomplished actor.
>third season I had even become comfortable with the paper-cutout characters
>in ST: DS9, but this season, though better than the first two, just doesn't
Again, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. DS9 had some of
the deepest characters on Trek. Most evolved throughout the course of
the series that most Trek characters did not. Compare Dr. Julian
Bashir in the pilot with the final season, or Sisko, or Jake, or Kira.
Now look at the characters in Voyager ... in the last season they were
basically unchanged from the first season.
>But I'm glad this group is here to discuss the show!
We're glad to have you, Traveler. Thanks for posting.
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It's not Bakula that you need to complain about, it's T'Pol/Jolene Blalock.
The woman is a slut in real life, can't keep her clothes on and is only on
the show for one reason, to bring in the 13-17 year old boy viewers so they
might get a glimpse of her tits. She should be killed off and replaced with
a real vulcan! Did you see her in the episode Twilight? The bulkhead fell
on her leg, she cringed, cryed and grabbed her leg the entired time. A real
vulcan may have cringed, but would have regained control and handled it.
(Yes, I know it's show and there are no "real" vulcan's)
They made a big mistake casting her in that role.
"The Merry Piper" <merry_p...@coat.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>It's not Bakula that you need to complain about, it's T'Pol/Jolene Blalock.
>The woman is a slut in real life, can't keep her clothes on and is only on
What does her sexual proclivities have to do with anything? She can
either act, or, she cannot.
>the show for one reason, to bring in the 13-17 year old boy viewers so they
>might get a glimpse of her tits. She should be killed off and replaced with
>a real vulcan!
Maybe that is why she was cast but I think she has done a pretty good
job of being "Vulcan" in the time the show has been on the air. This
is my opinion only, of course, but I think she's the best Vulcan we've
seen on-screen (including the movies) since TOS's Nimoy/Spock &
Lenard/Sarek.
Of course, one must pity Blalock in a way. No matter how sterling her
performance, the Trek "true-fans" will probably dislike her
performance.
>Did you see her in the episode Twilight? The bulkhead fell on her leg,
>she cringed, cryed and grabbed her leg the entired time. A real
>vulcan may have cringed, but would have regained control and handled it.
>(Yes, I know it's show and there are no "real" vulcan's)
I didn't hear the screaming most human beings would have done under
similar circumstances so I don't really agree with your point.
>They made a big mistake casting her in that role.
'de gustibus non est disputandum'
>What does her sexual proclivities have to do with anything? She can
>either act, or, she cannot.
[answers own post/grammar correction]
... what *DO* her sexual proclivities ...
Sorry!
> Maybe that is why she was cast but I think she has done a pretty good
> job of being "Vulcan" in the time the show has been on the air. This
> is my opinion only, of course, but I think she's the best Vulcan we've
> seen on-screen (including the movies) since TOS's Nimoy/Spock &
> Lenard/Sarek.
>
That's pretty high praise indeed! For me, she's simply been adequate at
times. At others, I feel she misses the point completely.
Actually, Tim Russ's performance as Tuvok was a LOT more convincing to me.
It seemed to me that he really did his homework.
Mike (ODO)
Think I'll watch a B5 tape instead.
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I don't know, I kind of liked "Quantum Leap." It was quirky. Where
else are you going to see Bakula wearing a dress? In his acting
roles, I mean.
It would have been better if it had leaped into the center of a Black Hole.
or as it was suppost to be in time, to the body of someone just being covered by
the lava flow from a volcano.
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Big difference.
I just hope this doesn't sink the Star Trek universe. They have already
announce they are cutting Enterprise back to 5 years maximum since even the
producers are having a hard time with the quality.
We shall see if anything comes after that but I have my doubts.
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Tuvok was also a good Vulcan, I agree. We just didn't see enough of
him & the Vulcan/Human synergy that worked so well in TOS was just
completely ignored.
Bear in mind that the Vulcans have advanced over 400 years by the time of
Russ' character. The Vulcans of the 21st century may very well have had a
predisposition to demonstrating facial expressions as a means to compensate
for other emotional expressions they have supressed
> I just hope this doesn't sink the Star Trek universe. They have already
> announce they are cutting Enterprise back to 5 years maximum since even
the
> producers are having a hard time with the quality.
The biggest problem with the show is that they failed to touch on one of the
key story arcs in Star Trek history - the Earth/Romulan War. If they were
to deal with that as a tie-in to "Nemesis" coming out of the blocks, then it
may have been interesting enough to bring viewers in for two-three season,
paving the way for more advanced storylines! Instead, they decided to
uncover a conspiracy around every corner in the beginning, boring their
target audience to tears!
As an aside, NOBODY expected TNG to go seven seasons and the only reason DS9
went seven was because it was syndicated and not network. I truly believe
that syndication was Trek's best friend. Teaming up with a network has
never been ST's strong suit (TOS only last two-plus years on NBC if you
recall!)
>
> We shall see if anything comes after that but I have my doubts.
What I would LOVE to see, and I think Trek fans would be absolutely
fascinated to see, would be a series that deals with a far-future Trek when
the Federation finally falls during hte Temporal Cold War. By this time you
could have the unheard-of concept of a Romulan starship captain trying to
rebuild the Federation (a la Andromeda) I truly believe that this "out the
box" concept would win fans back who have been lost due to Voyagers
meanderings.
In fact, I remember the series finale ranked in the top 20 of most watched
NBC programs in history.
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For the heck of it, I did watch the ending show, and it was the worst of the
worst.
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> Well, I guess you aren't the Nielsen head, because I recall QL did VERY well
> in the ratings when it was around, and this was at the dawn of the
> cable-dilution era.
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>> Maybe that is why she was cast but I think she has done a pretty good
>> job of being "Vulcan" in the time the show has been on the air. This
>> is my opinion only, of course, but I think she's the best Vulcan we've
>> seen on-screen (including the movies) since TOS's Nimoy/Spock &
>> Lenard/Sarek.
>>
>
>That's pretty high praise indeed! For me, she's simply been adequate at
>times. At others, I feel she misses the point completely.
Actually, one thing that bugs me about most latter-day Trek is that
the Vulcans seem to be played as constantly angry rather than calm.
Almost all the Vulcans on ENTERPRISE seem to be played this way, and
they're completely missing the point--Nimoy's performance was
brilliant, because it tread that find line of someone reacting with
their intellect, not by furrowing their brow. If Blalock et al would
relax their damn foreheads and be dispassionate in their reactions,
they might begin to put a little more depth into what they're
doing....
> Yes she does raise her eyebrows a lot.
Tuvok was perpetually frowning. (So why da black man gots t' look like da
angry thug, yo?)
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> In my views, QL was a waste of film.
Please, explain why.
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> As a LONG TIME Sci-Fi fan ( and I do mean LONG TIME ), I watched ql
> when it started out, and I found the whole idea as nothing but pure
> trash. The whole idea sucked big time.
Okay. Again, why did it suck? Personally, I really liked it (though I was
young back then), so I'm trying to see your side of things too.
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I've watched more sci-fi than I can care to count, from 1950 onward. Not only on
t.v., but also even old 40's sci-fi that played on the early t.v., I watched
that too.
I can count the sci-fi shows I've not cared for on one hand, on about 3 fingers
too and ql is on the 1st finger.
While short lived, 7 Days was even better.
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I'm confused.
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> The idea of someone JUMPING into someone elses body and that person's
> mind/ID just sitting in a room in limbo and the one who jumped doing
> something while in that body to FIX History, YUK.
Fair enough. But as a moderate sci-fi fan, I don't see the lack of appeal
to the show. Farfetched? Undoubtedly. (Especially the host-in-the-waiting-
room part.) But the show was mainly about the characters -- the regulars
and the folks-o'-the-week. Yeah, I liked it.
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Now the news I saw today made me very happy, even if no details came forth from
it.
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The opening music is sad, bad, lame
The show seems to be on a downward spiral.
It has a few good points, but weeks between episodes is just not OK.
Its the worst Star Trek so far.
The aliens are good a few of the enterprise crew are OK ie The Volcan
(not jsut cause she's hot), Doctor is good, the rest should be fired!
Im looking forward to them getting a new crew and make more episodes!
EVERY WEEK.. ALL YEAR LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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