>On alt.tv.xflies.creative, there's an interesting discussion of the first
>stories people read there, the ones that got them hooked on the newsgroup.
>I thought that it would be interesting to ask that here, also.
Okay, according to my files, the first one I e-mailed myself was Peg
Robinson's "Raisins and Almonds" -- fate dumped me right into the
middle of the Talking Stick cycle, and I couldn't be happier! ;-]
That, by the way, was just the end of May, this year ... only
three-and-a-bit months! <sheesh!>
Blade %)
My first stories are three that I mailed to myself and read two years ago
in May/June (I think. I could be wrong on the date; I may be eliding
dates). They were "Interviewing Alexander" (by Macedon), "Animus", and
"The Delightful Education of Julian Bashir", by Janice Cortese, which is,
unfortunately, no longer in the archives. (*waaah*. I'd love to read that
story again.) My, were they ever good. I actually didn't watch much DS9
until after I read "The Delightful Education"; I didn't remember what
Julian Bashir looked like when I read that story. And I'd never thought
seriously about the Doctor's predicament before "Animus".
So, I'm very glad I read those stories.
Ny Martin
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I didn't discover this newsgroup until this summer. Somewhere, somehow
while surfing through Trek stuff I found a link to Laura Bowen's home
page and read "Revelations" there (not a bad place to start). Her page
had a link to the old token.net archive site, which I pretty much
devoured in a few evenings.
Helen
> On alt.tv.xflies.creative, there's an interesting discussion of the first
> stories people read there, the ones that got them hooked on the newsgroup.
> I thought that it would be interesting to ask that here, also. (And I'm
> going to ask it on a.s.c.e, as well; the more signal we get there the more
> the noise will be drowned.)
Yes, let's! The noise on this group is really starting to bother me.
As to the stories....
<Taffy rummaging through her account>
Well, the first few stories I have here are "Peeping Tom" (by Hannah
Henriksson) "Other Versions" (by MizMac) and "In Triplicate" (by Ny). But
then I was accessing through Netscape for quite a while, before I
finally realized that I could do it through pine (what fools these newbies
be!). I was lurking for almost six months before that on an every-once-in
a-while basis.
I was pretty close to being hooked when I saw "Other Verions." But, then
MizMac told me that she didn't plan on doing any more Trek fanfic
because some evil people over on aol were giving her a hard time about it.
So what really hooked me?
I would have to say "In Triplicate" was what finally did it. (Hey! No I
am not just saying that because Ny started the thread! It's true.) See,
before that I was getting all my slash from Siubhan. "In Triplicate" was
my wake up call ("Hey, Taffy, there's more good slash out there!").
So now I'm here.
-Taffy
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Guildenstern: No, no, no. Death is not. Not Being. You can't not be
on a boat.
Rosencrantz: I've frequently not been on boats.
Guildenstern: No, no, no. What you've been is not on boats."
-"Rosencrantz and Guildenstren are Dead" by Tom Stoppard
I don't remember the title of the first story I read here in a.st.c.e
Probably one of the many Q stories posted here. As for a.st.c, I'm an
old-timer there, reading since 1989. My first story there would have
to be "Romulan Dawn", the first of Nealie Davidson's unfinished stories.
While that set the hook, what dragged me in as a keeper was "Vigilante".
This story is what Voyager should be (in fact, Voyager could be said
to be a direct rip-off of Vigilante minus the find-the-borg-homeworld
plotline that gave the story it's purpose for being int he Delta Quad).
>Ny Martin
Ny, do I have to run into you in *every* newsgroup I read? What do
you do, copy my .newsrc file when I'm not looking? :)
Wayne
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Nyani-Iisha Martin wrote:
>
> On alt.tv.xflies.creative, there's an interesting discussion of the first
> stories people read there, the ones that got them hooked on the newsgroup.
> I thought that it would be interesting to ask that here, also.
I first found internet Trek fan fic through asce (or alt.sex.fetish.startrek
as it was in those days), but this question still applies. The first story I
read was Atara Stein's "She Moves in Mysterious Ways." To those who don't
know the soap opera that ensued, I'll explain (short version). I read the
story, thought 'this is really good' (which it is BTW, many unbiased people
have confirmed this) and I wrote to the writer. A massive flurry of letters
followed, and before you know it, Atara and I met IRL, then drove all the way
from CA to NYC (to see Patrick in The Tempest and to meet Alara) and back.
This was in July in Atara's un-airconditioned Honda (which has a cd player to
make up for the lack of air), and we figured that if we could handle *that*
we could handle anything. So six months after I read her story, I packed up
a U-Haul and moved 400 miles to live with the lovely Dr. Stein.
And all because I read about Picard and a mysterious woman he met while the
Enterprise-E was being rebuilt. Fan Fction--It can change your life.
Ruth
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Patrick Stewart to Jonathan Frakes on the set of ST VIII
(as reported in the LA Times Sunday edition 9/8/96)
>On alt.tv.xflies.creative, there's an interesting discussion of the first
>stories people read there, the ones that got them hooked on the newsgroup.
For me, it was "The Reichenbach Maneuver" by Bradford Behr. This was
crossposted to rec.arts.startrek.misc (by Joseph Young, the first archivist
I believe), and so I discovered this group.
>"The Delightful Education of Julian Bashir", by Janice Cortese, which is,
>unfortunately, no longer in the archives. (*waaah*. I'd love to read that
>story again.)
I've already emailed it to you. I keep a personal archive (already over
60Mb).
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And as far as ice cream goes...could we discuss choc. chip cookie
dough...and Chakotay?
Kim :)
I wasn't enough for you? Sob!
-Siubhan :)
P.S. I don't remember what the first thing I read here was. I got a lot
of fanfic from friends and eventually started reading the sex group, then
this one. I still get most of my fanfic from friends.
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Yeah, that *was* fun. Michelle once posted a question about who would call
Janeway "Kathryn" first, prompting me to write a vignette. And I do remember
the food discussion, somebody did a J/C chocolate story that was rather yummy
. . .
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>
>And as far as ice cream goes...could we discuss choc. chip cookie
>dough...and Chakotay?
>
>Kim :)
If you really want to get something going along those lines, try posting
something on asce. It'd be fun!
Ruth
The first I read was copied here and to alt.startrek.creative.erotica,
which I cannot access from this terminal alas. It was called The Night
they went down on the Borg (or something similar) and I regret to say I
can't remember the author... I know, I'm absent minded, but it was a long
time ago.
Auden
It's called "The Night They Drove the Borg Down." It's part of Alara
Rogers' ever-branching "Only Human" universe and it's available (like all the
rest of the stories from asce) at ftp://aviary.share.net/pub/startrek/adult
or there's an index at http://aviary.share.net/~alara
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"Why doesn't anyone ever say 'poor John?' My God if
I were on fire, no one would pee on me to put it out!"
"Let's strike a flint and see."
John Lackland and Richard the Lion-Hearted
From "The Lion in Winter"
> nfma...@husc7.harvard.edu (Nyani-Iisha Martin) wrote:
> >On alt.tv.xflies.creative, there's an interesting discussion of the first
> >stories people read there, the ones that got them hooked on the newsgroup.
> >I thought that it would be interesting to ask that here, also. (And I'm
> >going to ask it on a.s.c.e, as well; the more signal we get there the more
> >the noise will be drowned.)
>
> The first I read was copied here and to alt.startrek.creative.erotica,
> which I cannot access from this terminal alas. It was called The Night
> they went down on the Borg (or something similar) and I regret to say I
> can't remember the author... I know, I'm absent minded, but it was a long
> time ago.
>
> Auden
As always, I'm in awe of your Freudian typos, daughter-dear. But I think
"The night they drove the Borg down" was the first one I read too. :-)
torch
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"You didn't exactly *miss*," said Pooh. "but you missed the *balloon*."
Thanks. :) Actually, it was "Interviewing Alexander." <g> Macedon was
off on a self-indulgent tear about Alexander the Great. ('Macedon' doesn't
come from nowhere, after all.)
I've been trying to remember the first story I read here and I really can't.
It's been a while. I can remember among the *early* stories I read, but
not the first, a short work by LR Bowen, some of Alara's "Only Human," and
the original "T'Prang." But I really can't recall in what order, or
anything. I've been around a little over two years, and lurked for quite
a while before writing anything at all. ("Alexander" was, in fact, my
first foray, done purely in fun.)
Macedon
>> nfma...@husc7.harvard.edu (Nyani-Iisha Martin) wrote:
>> >On alt.tv.xflies.creative, there's an interesting discussion of the first
>> >stories people read there, the ones that got them hooked on the newsgroup.
>> >I thought that it would be interesting to ask that here, also. (And I'm
>> >going to ask it on a.s.c.e, as well; the more signal we get there the more
>> >the noise will be drowned.)
>>
The first stories I read here--a few years ago now--were Points of View by
Kellie Matthews-Simmons. They blew my mind--I could not believe anyone could
write that way about TNG. Those stories added a lot to my enjoyment of the
show! (Later I discovered slash, and that was even better.)
After that it was actually a long time before I found anything else here (I
wasn't a regular reader until quite recently). After TNG went off the air
I gave up on most things trek. But some of the Voyager stories I read here
earlier this year encouraged me to start watching the show. And I agree with
the person who said that sometimes the fanfic is a lot better than the
episodes. And I don't just mean the slash, either! <g>
Susie
*blush* Thanks, Taffy.
:> See,
: >before that I was getting all my slash from Siubhan. "In Triplicate" was
: >my wake up call ("Hey, Taffy, there's more good slash out there!").
: I wasn't enough for you? Sob!
Nah, I was just the cherry atop the huge triple-decker banana split of
your stories.
(No pun intended!)
Ny
PS Ruth: I met my SO, he of the sig, online, also. Isn't it great?
: The first I read was copied here and to alt.startrek.creative.erotica,
: which I cannot access from this terminal alas. It was called The Night
: they went down on the Borg (or something similar) and I regret to say I
: can't remember the author... I know, I'm absent minded, but it was a long
: time ago.
It was called "The Night They Drove The Borg Down", and I wrote it. And
the only relevance the Borg had to the story is that it took place at a
victory party post-Wolf 359 in an alternate universe where there were a
lot fewer casualties.
I don't remember what the first story I read here was, but I do remmeber
some of the first stories I got off the archives... At the time Joe Young
was managing the archive. I read "T'Selar", by Pat something, in which
Selar invites Beverly Crusher to come with her on her way to her marriage
on Vulcan, and the two are abducted by Romulans; "I, Locutus", by Ryan
Nicol (I think), an interesting treatment of the return of the Borg; "A
la Q" by Julia Kosatka and Kellie Matthews-Simmons, in which Q sends
Picard back to the 20th century; and some other stories which actually
kind of sucked, so I won't mention them.
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>
>PS Ruth: I met my SO, he of the sig, online, also. Isn't it great?
Ny,
So how many of your non-wired friends looked at you like you were out of your
mind?
Oh and BTW, I beat you to the punch. I already asked the question out on
asce, citing your inspiration (and a.xf.c), natch.
Ruth
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J: Why doesn't anyone ever say 'poor John?' My God if I
were on fire, no one would pee on me to put it out!
R: Let's strike a flint and see.
John Lackland & Richard the Lion-Hearted
from "The Lion in Winter"
: >
: >PS Ruth: I met my SO, he of the sig, online, also. Isn't it great?
: So how many of your non-wired friends looked at you like you were out of your
: mind?
Oh, about half. The rest *know* that I'm out of my mind. *grin*
: Oh and BTW, I beat you to the punch. I already asked the question out on
: asce, citing your inspiration (and a.xf.c), natch.
Great minds think alike. *smile*
Ny
: J: Why doesn't anyone ever say 'poor John?' My God if I
: were on fire, no one would pee on me to put it out!
: R: Let's strike a flint and see.
: John Lackland & Richard the Lion-Hearted
: from "The Lion in Winter"
I'm having *one* child.
I have been looking for that one...I downloaded it once, but it said that
it couldn't unzip it, so if the authors are still among the readers,
could you email it to me?
As far as the first story I've read on here...about 5-6 months ago, I
looked for fanfic archives and I downloaded a whole bunch but alot of
them I couldn't unzip. I was able to read 'Romulan Dawn', 'Click Your
Heels Three Times', among others. The first one I read directly off the
newsgroup(I've only read for last couple weeks), was the recent repost of
'Dreams Into Waking'(BTW, I'd name authors, but I cannot remember their
names, sorry). I wish I'd have known the trick of mailing them to myself,
because they're off my list, and I only got through the first 8 or 9
chapters. so far, so good. As far as the story that hooked me, none,
really. It's mostly because I cannot find a story or even an episode to
where I can relate to any of the characters. From what I've heard of TOS
episodes (I've never seen 'em), 'For the World is Hollow and I Have
Touched the Sky' and 'City on the Edge of Forever' would seem to be among
the better ones. I'm currently writing a synopsis for a story in which I
can relate to the character, mostly because I've based the main character
somewhat on myself. When it's done I'll post it, and I'm sorry for
getting off the main point...
If anyone can suggest a tragic story about love lost or something along
those lines, let me know, please. I'm really interested in reading it.
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I wandered into this group sometime in September last year an utter newbie
to the worlds of both newsgroups and fanfic; I believe the first story I
read out here was "The Lily-White Boys" by L.R. Bowen. Understand that
coming from such a sheltered environment as that which is stay-at-home
Trekker fandom, I had no idea that fanfic of the naughty variety even
existed, so I believe that story caught me off guard at first. "Takes a
bit of getting used to," one might say...that story has a place of honor
on the hard drive now, and I find the naughty type of fanfic rather a lot
of fun...
I remember that the second story I read here was "Arithmetic Lessons" by
Laura Williams. That one took my nascent J/C post-"Elogium" interests and
turned me into a full-blown J/C type. In that story and its predecessor
"Everybody Comes to Sandrines" may be found exactly what I *wish* they
would do with J/C as we know it...has Jeri seen 'em? Has *Kate Mulgrew*
seen 'em?
Oh, and as long as we're talking "firsts", the first story I ever awaited
anxiously, part by part, was Macedon's "Out of the Past". As I do with
all my favorites, I've got a stack of hard copies of his stuff--which
includes the entire Talking Stick/Circle story chain. Fifty-five pages
of 6.5 Palatino type in two-column format, margins .5 inches...
I love fanfic. I've pretty much given up reading the Pocket Books novels
because fanfic is so much more *fun*...the characters get to grow, and
interact, and even like each other if they're so inclined...
Myself, I might be posting a few things once I get back to school (and
my unlimited Ethernet access) this week. I got a little bored this
summer...
Anyway, I shall be off...and I promise not to post the Relationships
Survey here this time...
schlock
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Lets see, that was about 3 years ago next November ... It's hard to
remember back that far, but I'm certain that chapter 2 of Alara's Only
Human was on of them. The Return (the SW/ST crossover) caught my
attention.
Then there was the Romulan Dawn series. Neale Davidson held my
attention for years. The series followed the crew of the Enterprise-B
under Captain Reilly (sp?). It consisted of The Morals of War, The
Raven's Roar, The Unfair Quo, Soul of Silicon, and a prequeal, Wake.
Also during my first month here, Joseph Young was AUTOPOSTing the tos
directory; so I was exposed to most of the contents of that directory
at that time.
AMatterOfDifferences
Bestseller
Betrayal
TheLegacy
I'll recomend it for all.
Voyages1-BestSeller (same as Bestseller but complete)
Great, I never saw the author coming
Voyages2-OrionTheAbductor
|TheAndorianAssault
|TheEnterpriseEncounter
|TheKlingonManuever
|TheOrionIncident
-------For all those Kirk hating people
Now that I've dated myself by only listing one active author, I'll go
back and read some more current people ... Macedon promised another
Talking Stick.
Oh, and I'm sure *someone* read last years award winners first, so here
is a reprint of that list:
Best Original Series
Turning Point [NC-17] by Killashdra
Best Next Generation [Tie]
Audacter Ire by B A Lopez
My Fair Jeanie [NC-17] by Ruth Gifford
Best Deep Space Nine
Vortex of Power by Christine Francis
Best Voyager
Talking Stick by Macedon
Best Q Story
PropinQuity by Mercutio
Best Picard/Crusher Story
Audacter Ire by B A Lopez
Best Author
Alara Rogers al...@netcom.com
Best Parody
Python Trek by Ruth Gifford
Best Poem
First Officer by L R Bowen
I'm sure someone else has more to add.
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"Sticks and stones won't break my bones, so you could imagine how I
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- The Doctor, "Basics pt II" Star Trek Voyager.
: I have been looking for that one...I downloaded it once, but it said that
: it couldn't unzip it, so if the authors are still among the readers,
: could you email it to me?
You should be able to get it off the archive now, as it isn't zipped.
It's ftp://aviary.share.net/story/tng/AlaQ.
Well, darling-mother, what did you suspect, she is your daughter!
But to give this any relevance to the actual thread, I think the first thing I
read were some parts of PopinQiety (yes, I know that's probably misspelled,
hey, this is a foreign language for me!)
And the Borg thing was written either by the same author of 'Only Human' or
hte one that wrote Popin-whatever.
Ari
PS: Mother, do you think we'd confuse those people if we told them I'm your
daughter and your wife's daughter and your daughter's daughter and your
daughter's wife-to-be's daughter?? (and I'm not mentioning the micro-wave!)
Hmm, yes, I think we would... *G*
Thank you very much...I'm working on two different computers, and I'm
using the other one to go to the archive now...thanks again ;)
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By the way, does anyone know if the author of "Inhibitions" (sorry, can't
remember who it is) is going to give us more? It looks really promising.
Timepiece
Deb Fleming
time...@bway.net
Are you talking about my story "Inhibitions"? I didn't post it to the
usenet, so it's probably not mine. What other story is out there called
"Inhibitions"? Sorry I swiped your title! At this point, I only
distribute through email and from my web site. I find that I'm less
likely to find my story on a random archive or web page if I keep the
distribution under my control.
-Siubhan
I think I'm done now,
Serena
Deborah Fleming time...@bway.net
http://www.bway.net/~timepiec/
"Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
--Abraham Lincoln
Nope, nope, nope... for Chakotay, it's *gotta* be butter pecan. Or possibly
triple chocolate.
Though maybe Janeway would prefer Ben and Jerry's "Chunky Monkey..."
PS... shouldn't this be on a.s.c.e, instead?
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I started out reading alt.sex.fetish.startrek right after Voyager went on
the air, and within a couple of weeks thought, "Hey, I could do that!" At
the time, wonderful discussions were going on, interspersed with REALLY
filthy fun like "S-Space", and my mind was boggling every day. The first
story I really read was "The Delightful Education of Julian Bashir." But
what got my fires lit was Voyager, and I decided to try my hand at a quick
romp starring Chakotay and Torres. (Yes, long ago before TCD got hold of
me, I wasn't yet a J/C fan! How little did I know!)
And what a blast it's been ever since...
Cheers, L.R. Bowen http://members.aol.com/lrbowen/lrbowen.htm
--EdB
As for the first story I read *here* (as opposed to from the archive) that
affected me the same way - that was "Ghost in the Machine" by Killashdra.
That one I saved to a disk, then snuck a look at it at work the next day.
Of course, I only had parts one and two and could hardly wait to get home
to get the rest. That was on a Friday and the rest wasn't posted till
Saturday. Torture! All day Saturday I couldn't get it out of my mind. I
wrote Killashdra begging for a sequel (I had to know what happened when
Harry answered the door) but she told me she hadn't been planning to write
one. So I wrote my own. (And sent it to her and she said to post it
here, so y'all should be seeing it in the not-too-distant future.) This
from someone who'd more or less avoided slash fiction in the past. Life
is strange!
Colleen
(Cbt...@aol.com)
>I do
>remember the first story from the archive (when it was still at token.net)
>that sent me on a frenzied search for more. That was "Talking Stick" by
>Macedon, which I read at the wee hours on a weeknight, despite having to
>be at work at 8:00 a.m. I was just going to skim it quickly to see what
>it was about and ended up reading it word-for-word, crying at my computer
>(thank God I live alone - explaining that to a roommate might not have
>been do-able!), then going right back to the archive to look for more. I
>now have all six stories in the cycle printed out, as well as saved to my
>hard drive, and am eagerly looking forward to the next.
<blush> Thanks, Colleen. Part 7 will be posted as soon as we get done
with the repost of the first 6 parts; Peg puts up part 4 ("The Red Queen's
Repose") next. So about three more weeks. ;>
"Otterskin" has been started and is on it's way. This one will be different
from the others because *both* of us are writing parts of it. Largely, it's
Chakotay's voice, but Janeway speaks here and there, too. :)
Macedon