Pronouns for Entities
J.Jon Kramer
Re: Pronouns for Entities
Date:
Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:58:50 -0700
From:
"J.Jon Kramer" <jo...@best.com>
Organization:
Organization? What organization?
To:
Mary Ellen Curtin <mecu...@alumni.Princeton.EDU>
CC:
ASCEM <as...@earthlink.net>, Sydvick <Syd...@aol.com>,
Raku2u <Rak...@aol.com>
References:
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Hello, Mary Ellen,
This landed in my inbox with a spl*t, and I
instantly thought "Uh-oh."
Mary Ellen Curtin wrote:
> Dear Entities:
>
> How should I pronounce:
> hir
> s/he
> ?
>
> After floundering a bit, I seem to
> be saying:
> hir=near-homonym for "hear"
> s/he= s'he
>
> What do *you* beings say? Or do you
> just giggle wickedly?
Mostly I just giggle wickedly. How did you know? ;-)
Hir = czczcwznski? (the f is silent)
s/he = heeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny?
or
Hir = pretty close to what you've got
s/he = either sidh, s-hee, or see
I've seen "zie" and "sie" used on other ngs, I
pronounce those as "zee" and "see." Why don't I use
them? Well, I saw them after starting with these.
Would they help? Why do you ask? You could always
come to Friscon and ask this question in person ;-)
Will wear a paper bag over my head so you know it's
me
Cheers
jonk
>
>
> The book of the day is an sf novel about
> a person who starts out male, changes to
> female, and ends up a neuter and "ceaseless
> campaigner for pronoun reform."
>
> Yours,
>
> Mary Ellen
> Doctor Science, MA
> - - - - - - - - -
> Good Book of the Day:
> "Steel Beach," by John Varley
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Re: Pronouns for Entities
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See, I always thought "hir" was pronounced like "hur," as in "Ben Hur," that
being the story of an uncertainly sexed person in the time of the Romans. Of
course, in the time of the Romans nearly everyone was uncertainly sexed.
Makes me warm all over to think of Charlton Heston in a sexually ambiguous
role, heh heh heh.
raku, no fan of the NRA but the proud owner of 10 count 'em 10 blank VCR tapes
so far, ready to roll 'em! Last night "Mudd's Women," tomorrow the world...
Mary Ellen Curtin
Pronouns for Entities
Date:
Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:07:25 -0400
From:
"Mary Ellen Curtin" <mecu...@alumni.Princeton.EDU>
To:
"ASCEM" <as...@earthlink.net>
CC:
"Sydvick" <Syd...@aol.com>, "Raku2u" <Rak...@aol.com>,
"J Jon Kramer" <jo...@best.com>
Dear Entities:
How should I pronounce:
hir
s/he
?
After floundering a bit, I seem to
be saying:
hir=near-homonym for "hear"
s/he= s'he
What do *you* beings say? Or do you
just giggle wickedly?
The book of the day is an sf novel about
a person who starts out male, changes to
female, and ends up a neuter and "ceaseless
campaigner for pronoun reform."
Yours,
Mary Ellen
Doctor Science, MA
- - - - - - - - -
Good Book of the Day:
"Steel Beach," by John Varley
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T'Pat
Date:
Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT)
From:
"T'Pat" <tpa...@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Pronouns for Entities
as...@earthlink.net
Hi, all.
I tought I would sneak in--for just a moment?
I know, my e-name allows people to make all
sorts of assumptions, but that's a long and boring
story and I'm not going there. ;-)
Mary Ellen wrote:
>Dear Entities:
>
>How should I pronounce:
>hir
>s/he
>?
>
>After floundering a bit, I seem to
>be saying:
>hir=near-homonym for "hear"
>s/he= s'he
Pretty much... though I only realized I had no idea
on how to pronounce them a couple of days ago when I
started my first TSU post... couldn't read them aloud,
you see.
Did you actually have a chance to *speak* with
one of us *entities*?
>What do *you* beings say? Or do you
>just giggle wickedly?
Only in private <vbg>. In public I usually frown.
Jonk wrote:
>You could always
>come to Friscon and ask this question in person ;-)
>Will wear a paper bag over my head so you know it's
>me
Oh, so *that*'s how you do it!
I shall have to remember the trick, but maybe other materials,
velvet or silk, perhaps? Next CON, maybe.
Raku wrote:
>See, I always thought "hir" was pronounced like "hur," as in "Ben
Hur," that
being the story of an uncertainly sexed person in the time of the
Romans. Of
course, in the time of the Romans nearly everyone was uncertainly sexed.
Makes me warm all over to think of Charlton Heston in a sexually
ambiguous
role, heh heh heh. >>
LOL: Last time I saw BH I was a teen-ager and he did look the
perfect masculine model (besides, whatever he wears he's simply
gorgeous, isn't he?). You saw 'potential' there? Maybe I should go back
to the movie and look closer.
LLAP, T'Pat--who should have picked a more obvious name?
Nah, let 'em guess.
==
`Different' is normal. Normal? Now, *that* is different. T'Pat
>:-j
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