What about adulthood traumas?
Kaki
a story and finding those horrifying letters WIP. Works in Progress that
aren't labeled give me nightmares - literally sometimes when my mind tries
to work out the details.
Not much of a biggie here as we usually seem to label stories with part
numbers and I can collect them all before I read, but in some fandoms, it
will drive me crazy.
Kaki
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To: <ASC...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: [ASCEML] What about adulthood traumas?
I扉e been lurking here for a while and following your interesting discussion
about childhood traumas. I was not traumatized by the things I read in my
childhood, but only a couple of weeks ago, at the tender age of 36.
Earlier this autumn, I discovered K/S slash and realised that I enjoyed it
immensely. One day I found a long story that was very well written and
enjoyable - until the sudden, cruel and heartbreaking end. All I could think
was "Oh, please, NO!" All I could do was to bite my nails until my
fingertips started to bleed. I wished there was a Vulcan nearby to mind-meld
with me and erase the memory of that story. I know there are warnings of
nonconsensual sex and violence and other things that might upset some
readers, but this was worse - and without any warning.
And I thought reading K/S slash was such harmless and healthy fun.
Sanahelina
(apologising for being a lurker, and for her English, but not for having a
breakable heart)
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ellen_fremedon
(by way of ascem-usenet-relay1@t...) wrote:
> I´ve been lurking here for a while and following your interesting
> about childhood traumas. I was not traumatized by the things I read
in my
> childhood, but only a couple of weeks ago, at the tender age of 36.
>
> Earlier this autumn, I discovered K/S slash and realised that I
enjoyed it
> immensely. One day I found a long story that was very well written
and
> enjoyable - until the sudden, cruel and heartbreaking end. All I
could think
> was "Oh, please, NO!" All I could do was to bite my nails until my
> fingertips started to bleed. I wished there was a Vulcan nearby to
mind-meld
> with me and erase the memory of that story. I know there are
warnings of
> nonconsensual sex and violence and other things that might upset
some
> readers, but this was worse - and without any warning.
>
> And I thought reading K/S slash was such harmless and healthy fun.
>
> Sanahelina
>
> (apologising for being a lurker, and for her English, but not for
having a
> breakable heart)
No apologies needed, Sanahelina-- and your English is excellent. But
what was the story?
And welcome, btw.
Ellen
"Helena Sanahelinä"
about childhood traumas. I was not traumatized by the things I read in my
childhood, but only a couple of weeks ago, at the tender age of 36.
Earlier this autumn, I discovered K/S slash and realised that I enjoyed it
immensely. One day I found a long story that was very well written and
enjoyable - until the sudden, cruel and heartbreaking end. All I could think
was "Oh, please, NO!" All I could do was to bite my nails until my
fingertips started to bleed. I wished there was a Vulcan nearby to mind-meld
with me and erase the memory of that story. I know there are warnings of
nonconsensual sex and violence and other things that might upset some
readers, but this was worse - and without any warning.
And I thought reading K/S slash was such harmless and healthy fun.
Sanahelina
(apologising for being a lurker, and for her English, but not for having a
breakable heart)
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dunyazad9
> I was not going to mention the title because I did not want to
>offend
> the author. (And considering what she did to Kirk and Spock, I
>shudder
> to think what she would do to an insignificant foreign lurker.) But
> since you asked, it was "Terminus".
I'm sorry my story upset you so much, Sannahelina. If you would like
to read a follow-up story showing that Kirk and Spock did indeed get
back together and the author of "Terminus" got what she deserved,
here is a link to it.
www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/6523/ontrial.txt. It's called "On
Trial." (I, the author, am the one on trial.) Rest assured that in
the "universe" in which "Terminus" is set, just as in the "real" Star
Trek universe, the two characters got back together, served together
on the Enterprise, and lived happily ever after. (Well, at least
until the events of "Generations," which I've never really been able
to accept as canon.)
I hope the "characters' revenge," which was inspired by a challenge
Stephen Ratliff issued, will make you feel somewhat better. If not, I
can only hope that your bad feelings will fade with time.
Judith
Kaki
I could say that Terminus had a traumatic affect on my adult lfe, too.
Without that story, I wouldn't have met the author, wouldn't have been
convinced to try writing K/S, might have missed out on loads of fun over the
past 4? years. Plus I loved the story tremendously.
I'm really sorry your experience differed from mine, but I thought the story
was beautiful.
Now, I'm curious. Which K/S do you like?
Kaki (not trying to be recced here, truly)
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Subject: [ASCEML] What about adulthood traumas?
From: sanah...@hotmail.com (Helena Sanahelinä)
"ellen fremedon" <Ellen Frem...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> No apologies needed, Sanahelina-- and your English is excellent. But
> what was the story?
Thank you so much for your kind words, Ellen.
I was not going to mention the title because I did not want to offend
the author. (And considering what she did to Kirk and Spock, I shudder
to think what she would do to an insignificant foreign lurker.) But
since you asked, it was "Terminus".
Sanahelina
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"ellen fremedon" <Ellen Frem...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> No apologies needed, Sanahelina-- and your English is excellent. But
> what was the story?
Thank you so much for your kind words, Ellen.
I was not going to mention the title because I did not want to offend
the author. (And considering what she did to Kirk and Spock, I shudder
to think what she would do to an insignificant foreign lurker.) But
since you asked, it was "Terminus".
Sanahelina
saavaant
> Without that story, I wouldn't have met the author, wouldn't have
> been convinced to try writing K/S, might have missed out on loads
> of fun over the past 4? years. Plus I loved the story tremendously.
>
> I'm really sorry your experience differed from mine, but I thought
> the story was beautiful.
I agree. It's beautiful in the way great tragedies are beautiful. It
doesn't make you happy, but it makes you *feel* the way the poor
characters feel about the whole star-crossed situation and it puts
you in awe of the author's ability to create it so well. I think we
discussed this a while back... for a lot of us, it's an incredible
literary experience but it isn't the kind of story we go back and
read over and over.
Saavant
Kaki4
wrote.
>> Without that story, I wouldn't have met the author, wouldn't have
>> been convinced to try writing K/S, might have missed out on loads
>> of fun over the past 4? years. Plus I loved the story tremendously.
>>
>> I'm really sorry your experience differed from mine, but I thought
>> the story was beautiful.
>
>
>I agree. It's beautiful in the way great tragedies are beautiful. It
>doesn't make you happy, but it makes you *feel* the way the poor
>characters feel about the whole star-crossed situation and it puts
>you in awe of the author's ability to create it so well. I think we
>discussed this a while back... for a lot of us, it's an incredible
>literary experience but it isn't the kind of story we go back and
>read over and over.
>
>
Maybe I'm odd, but that tends toward being the type I do go back to over and
over. I've read "Bitter Glass" so many times!
Kaki
datalaur
thought the story was beautiful.
>
> I agree. It's beautiful in the way great tragedies are beautiful.
It doesn't make you happy, but it makes you *feel* the way the poor
> characters feel about the whole star-crossed situation and it puts
> you in awe of the author's ability to create it so well.
I just read it for the first time and I agree, the story is very well
written. Not only it is romance and gut-punch emotion, but there's
*story* there as well. Complex politics, finance, manueverings,
culture, and a lovely Kirk/Spock story. You see hints of the
inevitable disaster and yet you can't quite stop reading, despite
inner cries of "No! NO! There'll be a happy ending! It'll be
okay!" ::snif snif:: Well, Romeo and Juliet had a disaster built
out of missed chances and crossed wires, and so do Kirk and Spock. I
particularly liked Spock's/Vulcan alienness. I can see why the story
was upsetting for the reader who started off this discussion; she may
have gone in looking for something happy and came out crying
instead. I suppose a very generic warning (ie, "A dark tale in
which..." would not have given too much away. I wouldn't want to see
anything more than that. But a lot of people don't do/ don't like
warnings, so there isn't an easy answer, other than "let the reader
beware". It was an adult story, after all, and that doesn't just
mean sex.
laur
Helena Sanahelinä
"datalaur" <data...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<9v3vl...@eGroups.com>...
> I just read it for the first time and I agree, the story is very well
> written. Not only it is romance and gut-punch emotion, but there's
> *story* there as well. Complex politics, finance, manueverings,
> culture, and a lovely Kirk/Spock story. You see hints of the
> inevitable disaster and yet you can't quite stop reading, despite
> inner cries of "No! NO! There'll be a happy ending! It'll be
> okay!" ::snif snif:: Well, Romeo and Juliet had a disaster built
> out of missed chances and crossed wires, and so do Kirk and Spock. I
> particularly liked Spock's/Vulcan alienness. I can see why the story
> was upsetting for the reader who started off this discussion; she may
> have gone in looking for something happy and came out crying
> instead. I suppose a very generic warning (ie, "A dark tale in
> which..." would not have given too much away
Yes, exactly. You said it much better than I ever could. Thanks.
Sanahelina
aka The Reader Who Started Off This Discussion
Helena Sanahelinä
"dunyazad9" <Duny...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:<9v1c6...@eGroups.com>...
> I'm sorry my story upset you so much, Sannahelina. If you would like
> to read a follow-up story showing that Kirk and Spock did indeed get
> back together and the author of "Terminus" got what she deserved,
> here is a link to it.
> www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/6523/ontrial.txt. It's called "On
> Trial." (I, the author, am the one on trial.) Rest assured that in
> the "universe" in which "Terminus" is set, just as in the "real" Star
> Trek universe, the two characters got back together, served together
> on the Enterprise, and lived happily ever after. (Well, at least
> until the events of "Generations," which I've never really been able
> to accept as canon.)
>
> I hope the "characters' revenge," which was inspired by a challenge
> Stephen Ratliff issued, will make you feel somewhat better. If not, I
> can only hope that your bad feelings will fade with time.
Oh. Now I feel like a complete idiot. I didn´t know *you* were Judith
Gran (didn´t you used to be judygran?) I guess I should never have
popped my head out of my lurking hole in the first place.
Yes, "On Trial" helped a lot and I do feel much better already.
On my behalf, I hope that at least a small part of you enjoyed knowing
that your story had such a strong effect on someone?
Sincerely,
Sanahelina
Helena Sanahelinä
"Kaki" <ka...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<003501c18134$76ecd6c0$ceef...@nc.rr.com>...
> Unless there is more than one Kirk and Spock story named Terminus. I guess
> I could say that Terminus had a traumatic affect on my adult lfe, too.
> Without that story, I wouldn't have met the author, wouldn't have been
> convinced to try writing K/S, might have missed out on loads of fun over the
> past 4? years. Plus I loved the story tremendously.
>
> I'm really sorry your experience differed from mine, but I thought the story
> was beautiful.
Yes, it was wonderful and beautiful, and that´s exactly why the cruel
ending hurt me so much. You know, mediocre writing doesn´t break your
heart, it just leaves you cold. Have you read what laur wrote about
Terminus? I couldn´t agree more.
> Now, I'm curious. Which K/S do you like?
>
> Kaki (not trying to be recced here, truly)
How many stories can I mention?
First of all, the "Signal/Noise" series
"Turning Point/Full Circle" and "Surrender" by Killashandra
"And in the Darkness Bind You" by Greywolf the Wanderer
"This Deadly Innocence" by Leslie Fish
"Intreat Me Not to Leave Thee" by C M Decarnin
"Improvisation" by Ruth Gifford and Varoneeka
"Where the Dreams" by T'Pat
"The Valley of Love and Delight" by Elenadia
"The World Turned Upside Down" by Jenna Hilary Sinclair
"Ponn Farr" by Arachnethe2
"The Word Withheld" by J S Cavalcante
"The Bonding Contingent" by BatsRGr8
And then, I just have to mention two stories that I loved and hated
because they were beautiful and heartbreaking, just like Terminus:
"Lost Words" by Wildcat
"Ghost in the Machine" by Killashandra
Was this enough? I am aware that there are dozens of gems that I
haven't found yet - yours as well, I hope. I have just discovered the
wonderland of fan fiction, treksmut and slash very recently. Four
months ago I didn´t know such things existed. And even when I first
found slash I thought nothing in this world could interest me less
than m/m slash. What changed my mind - well, that´s another story.
Greywolf the Wanderer
>
> "ellen fremedon" <Ellen Frem...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<9urnc...@eGroups.com>...
>
> > No apologies needed, Sanahelina-- and your English is excellent. But what
> was the story?
>
> Thank you so much for your kind words, Ellen.
>
> I was not going to mention the title because I did not want to offend the
> author. (And considering what she did to Kirk and Spock, I shudder to think
> what she would do to an insignificant foreign lurker.) But since you asked,
> it was "Terminus".
<shrug, puzzled look> Different strokes, I guess. Me, I kinda likd that one
-- but then, I'm a fan of bummers, and a lot of folks aren't.
> Sanahelina
Greywolf, welcoming you aboard despite the disagreement -- that's what keeps
life interesting around here!
I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I looked.
What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of Guinness>
Selek
one
| -- but then, I'm a fan of bummers, and a lot of folks aren't.
|
| > Sanahelina
|
| Greywolf, welcoming you aboard despite the disagreement -- that's what
keeps
| life interesting around here!
|
| I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I
looked.
| What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of Guinness>
<Selek trundles the trolley down to where Sanahelina is sitting> Here I
am. What do you wish to drink?
Selek
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sanahelina
> I'm sorry my story upset you so much, Sannahelina. If you would
like
> to read a follow-up story showing that Kirk and Spock did indeed
get
> back together and the author of "Terminus" got what she deserved,
> here is a link to it.
> www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/6523/ontrial.txt. It's
called "On
> Trial." (I, the author, am the one on trial.) Rest assured that in
> the "universe" in which "Terminus" is set, just as in the "real"
Star
> Trek universe, the two characters got back together, served
together
> on the Enterprise, and lived happily ever after. (Well, at least
> until the events of "Generations," which I've never really been
able
> to accept as canon.)
>
> I hope the "characters' revenge," which was inspired by a challenge
> Stephen Ratliff issued, will make you feel somewhat better. If not,
I
> can only hope that your bad feelings will fade with time.
Thank you, Judith. I posted a reply to your message on 11th December
and never saw it again. I thought maybe I got moderated out or
killfiled or whatever it is that is done to rude idiots (which is
what I am), but then I heard that others had problems posting to alt
newsgroups as well. So I´m making a second attempt.
I guess I should never have popped my head out of my lurking hole in
the first place. This was the last thing I wanted - you telling me
that *you* are sorry. Please, don´t be sorry. Be proud of being
able to write stories that affect readers so intensely. I really did
love everything about "Terminus" except the way it ended, and if I
broke my heart reading it, I can only blame myself. So please forgive
me.
Thank you so much for the link to "On Trial". I would not have found
this story on my own, and reading it really made me feel a lot better.
Sanahelina
sanahelina
> Greywolf, welcoming you aboard despite the disagreement -- that's
what keeps
> life interesting around here!
>
> I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I
looked.
> What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of Guinness>
<stares, blushes, turns pale and breathless, quite unable to
comprehend that His Highness Greywolf the Wanderer has just spoken to
her, thinks: "Say something! Anything!", then says in a very small
voice> Uh, I guess that would be dry chardonnay, Sir -- thank you for
your kind welcome, Sir -- but I´m really nothing more than a
lurker, may I just run away, please, Sir?
Sanahelina
Selek
what keeps
> life interesting around here!
>
> I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I
looked.
> What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of Guinness>
<stares, blushes, turns pale and breathless, quite unable to
comprehend that His Highness Greywolf the Wanderer has just spoken to
her, thinks: "Say something! Anything!", then says in a very small
voice> Uh, I guess that would be dry chardonnay, Sir -- thank you for
your kind welcome, Sir -- but I´m really nothing more than a
lurker, may I just run away, please, Sir?
Sanahelina
Dry Chardonnay it is. <turns to Greywolf> She can't go back to lurking,
can she, Cousin? Once she's out, she's out, eh?
Selek (former lurker)
Theganan
> Greywolf, welcoming you aboard despite the disagreement -- that's what keeps
> life interesting around here!
>
> I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I looked.
> What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of Guinness>
Hah! Not without me you aren't *practically tries to raid Selek's trolley in
hopes of achieving a Guinness*
T'Reija
*gotta love the Irish*
Selek
|
| > Greywolf, welcoming you aboard despite the disagreement -- that's what
keeps
| > life interesting around here!
| >
| > I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I
looked.
| > What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of Guinness>
|
| Hah! Not without me you aren't *practically tries to raid Selek's
trolley in
| hopes of achieving a Guinness*
|
| T'Reija
| *gotta love the Irish*
<hands them both a Guinness> There's plenty more where that came from.
Don't fight!
Selek
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Greywolf the Wanderer
> --- In ASCEML@y..., Greywolf the Wanderer <greywolf@s...> wrote:
>
> > Greywolf, welcoming you aboard despite the disagreement -- that's what
> keeps life interesting around here!
> >
> > I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I
> looked. What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of Guinness>
>
> <stares, blushes, turns pale and breathless, quite unable to
> comprehend that His Highness Greywolf the Wanderer has just spoken to her,
> thinks: "Say something! Anything!", then says in a very small voice> Uh, I
> guess that would be dry chardonnay, Sir -- thank you for your kind welcome,
> Sir -- but I´m really nothing more than a lurker, may I just run away,
> please, Sir?
<Hands you a glass of a decent dry Fetzer chardonnay> Howzat? I remember
this being fairly decent plonk. But hey, I ain't no highness or nothing --
just Romany chal, teller of tall tales. Ye can run away if ye like, but why
not stick around a bit?
Up to you, lassie. ;-)>
> Sanahelina
Greywolf
--
As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must
be aware of change in the air -- however slight -lest we become unwitting
victims of the darkness.
- Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75)
rae trail
Rae
NEW:KFF: Starship Star Blues
K/Mc: NC-17
Summary: PWP
Disclaimer: contains graphic m/m sex. All characters are owned by Paramount, I'm only showing them a good time. No money made, fair usage only.
Starship Star Blues
Rae Trail
"Put it *down* Jim!" McCoy threw his padd chip of 'Xeno' monthly at his commanding officer, who was one again monkeying with the lab experiment he was running. Kirk set the retort down with exaggerated care and glared at the doctor.
"You *said* it would be done in fifteen minutes!"
"Christ's knickers, that was 13 minutes ago. I don't think much of StarFleet sending out Captains who can't tell time. Mess with it much more and I won't be able to trust my results. What in hell is your hurry, anyhow? We've got all night, Jim."
Kirk paced away from the elaborate lab equipment and did a turn of the room. "It was Chekov. Again."
McCoy grimaced and stood up, stretching. "It's just a crush, Jim. It'll pass. He's an ensign, for god's sake. All ensigns have a crush on you."
"Yeah, but all ensigns don't have the opportunity to press their goddamned hard-ons against me on the turbo-lift! All the ensigns don't flaunt their..." he trailed off. "Fifteen minutes? It should be done?"
McCoy glanced up at him, amused. It's like being married to an HV star, he thought indulgently. Every man and woman on this ship would love to get into the Captain's pants. Poor Chekov didn't have a snowball's chance on Vulcan's Forge, but he just kept trying. And speaking of Vulcan's forge.... "What about Spock?"
"No glory." Kirk paced the room again and came to rest beside McCoy. "Why'd you have to remind me? Damn. Now I'm really impatient." Both men sighed, and Bones glanced down to see the tell-tale pleat in Kirk's uniform pants. His own looked much the same.
"Well, Spock just doesn't *know* he wants us, yet. He'll figure it out. If I have to feed him some kind of Vulcan aphrodisiac," McCoy vowed. Spock was the only one on the ship that they both wanted, but so far neither had gotten to first base with him. "Dammit, this thing is ruined, I *told* you not to mess with it. I have to reset the values and start again. You just earned yourself another 15 minutes, *Captain*."
Kirk flushed. "I'm sorry, Bones."
"You should be, we're both so hard it hurts." McCoy began revitalizing the ruined culture, and shoved Kirk aside. "Make it up to me."
Kirk brightened. "How?"
"Mmmmm. Go over there, lean against the wall, and give me a show."
Another of his HV star qualities, McCoy thought. James T. was an absolutely shameless exhibitionist. He grinned from ear to ear and opened the front of his pants. "You sure? I could suck you while you work."
"It'll be hard enough to concentrate as it is, Captain Flash. Just go over where you can't get in any trouble and show me your stuff. But no coming until I get there, got it? I want that for me."
Kirk grinned again and paced slowly to the wall. He set his shoulders carefully, and spread his legs, making sure that McCoy had an unobstructed view. "Okay?"
"Do it, Jim."
Kirk fell silent. He untucked his uniform shirt slowly, then crossed his arms and drew it up over his head in a smooth motion, showing his shaved chest. McCoy watched, half aroused and half amused, and continued to reset the experiment. He wanted to finish the vital work before Kirk got too far. His cock was throbbing against his pants already.
Jim dropped the shirt to the floor, and ran his hands lightly over his torso before spreading his pants open wide. He reached in with his right hand and eased his cock out, then pushed the pants down slightly and freed his scrotum.
His cock was purple and full, bobbing slightly against his belly in time with his heart. The balls, big and ripe, he cupped in his left hand and began to massage lightly. It looked great, and McCoy almost ruined the experiment again when Jim threw back his head and began to moan softly.
Slowly Jim stroked his own belly, in time with the massage of his balls, his right hand teasing his cock with the lightest brush of the knuckles on each stroke. McCoy felt himself salivating, a rough shudder running through him. He finished the reset and stood back, arms folded, to watch.
The left hand stayed low, cupping and massaging the heavy scrotum. The right hand abandoned the belly and moved to the cock.
Just thumb and forefinger. He held himself lightly, just below the head, and moved the fingers up and down in a slow, easy rhythm, matching the motion of his left hand on his balls. McCoy licked his lips and stared. "Look at yourself," he ordered, and Jim's hazel eyes flew open. He smiled at McCoy.
"Isn't one of us looking enough?"
"Look at yourself. You're beautiful."
Kirk looked down, and a drop of pre-cum oozed from the tip of his prick. He caught it in those two fingers and rubbed it over the head. His left hand abandoned their scrotum and moved up to stroke the base of his cock, hard. "Fuck," Kirk whispered. "I do this to myself when you're not around, it feels like nothing. I do it when you're watching, it's..."
"It's great," McCoy finished for him. "Spread your legs a bit wider, Jim. There, perfect." McCoy pulled the ever-ready tube of lube from his pocket and began to grease his left hand as he crossed the room to Kirk. "Let me help you with that."
"Oh, yes."
McCoy knelt and took one heavy sack in his mouth. He gripped Jim's hip with his right hand, and carefully thrust the first finger of his left deep into Jim's anus.
Jim groaned and shuddered, then began to stroke himself more seriously, his cock weeping. "Another one, Len. Give me another one."
McCoy released Kirk's balls and looked up at his face as he added a second finger to the one already working Kirk's ass. "I'm gonna love watching you do this to Spock one day, Jim-boy. And I'm gonna love watching Spock do this to you."
"And to you. Jesus, Len." Kirk was panting. "Are you gonna suck me?"
"Nope." He released Jim's hip and began to undo his own pants, moving his fingers in Jim's ass in time with the motions of Jim's hand on his cock. "I'm gonna fuck you silly, but not until I'm finished here. You're gonna come around my fingers, and I'm gonna watch," he finished, easing his cock out slightly to take the pressure off. "Harder, Jim. Faster. More friction."
McCoy increased the tempo of his forefingers in Kirk's ass, and Kirk responded with a fast-paced motion of his right hand, all fingers now in play, up and down his cock. The foreskin stretched and shrank, and Kirk threw his left hand back against the wall to support himself as McCoy's fingers found his prostrate again and again. "I'm gonna.."
"Yeah. You come, Jim. Come hard. Come now." McCoy cupped the shrunken scrotum in one hand and tickled Jim's prostrate with the other, and Jim was suddenly howling and shooting slick whiteness all over his belly and the wall behind him. McCoy felt an answering tug in his own groin, but over-rode it, reveling in the sight of Jim, weak in the knees, Jim coming with Len's hand up his ass, Jim milking his own cock dry in sickbay.
He had to help Jim slide down the wall, he's knees too weak to hold him up. Kissed him deeply and gave the shrinking cock a playful tug that made Kirk groan. "Nicely done, stud. Now, I'm gonna finish this work up. How about you do up your pants, head back to your quarters and have a shower, and meet me in bed in 15 minutes?"
"Soon as I catch my breath," Jim husked, "it's a date. You did say you'd fuck me?"
"Oh, yeah, *Captain*, I'm gonna fuck you senseless," he replied, standing up and returning to his apparatus. "Now run along and let me work."
"Aye aye, Doctor." Kirk stood up, dropped a kiss on McCoy's cheek and paced to the door, dragging his shirt on and fastening his trousers as he went. "What do you want for dinner?"
"Let's go to the mess hall. Maybe we can sit with Spock."
"Okay."
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sanahelina
> <Hands you a glass of a decent dry Fetzer chardonnay> Howzat? I
remember
> this being fairly decent plonk. But hey, I ain't no highness or
nothing --
> just Romany chal, teller of tall tales. Ye can run away if ye
like, but why
> not stick around a bit?
>
> Up to you, lassie. ;-)>
>
> Greywolf
<holds the delicate crystal glass with trembling hands, trying hard
not to faint at Greywolf's feet or to start blathering about how much
she loves his stories>
It seems that I am stuck here, so I guess I could just as well relax
and enjoy this. Thanks again for welcoming me. (Thanks to Selek, too.)
Sanahelina
---
The week before Christmas is often a quiet one in a funeral parlour,
Shadow learned, over supper. -- 'The lingering ones are holding on
for one final Christmas,' said Mr Ibis, 'or even for New Year's,
while the others, the ones for whom other people's jollity and
celebration will prove too painful, have not yet been tipped over
the edge by that last showing of _It's a Wonderful Life_, have not
quite encountered the final straw, or should I say, the final _sprig
of holly_ that breaks not the camel's but the _reindeer's_ back.'
Neil Gaiman: American Gods
Theganan
> | Greywolf the Wanderer wrote:
> | > I think cousin Selek was running the virtual drink trolley, last I
> | > looked. What's yer favourite poison? <hoists a virtual mug of
> | > Guinness>
> |
> | Hah! Not without me you aren't *practically tries to raid Selek's
> | trolley in hopes of achieving a Guinness*
> |
> | T'Reija
> | *gotta love the Irish*
>
> <hands them both a Guinness> There's plenty more where that came from.
> Don't fight!
>
> Selek
*shamefully bows her head* Thanks, Selek, you're a pet. It's just, when I
read the word 'Guinness', I... well. Sometimes, that good ole Vulcan
control is hard to keep up. But I would never fight with Greywolf - or with
you, for that matter. So, cheers! *raises glass*
T'Reija
Selek
I
| read the word 'Guinness', I... well. Sometimes, that good ole Vulcan
| control is hard to keep up. But I would never fight with Greywolf - or
with
| you, for that matter. So, cheers! *raises glass*
|
| T'Reija
<raises an eyebrow, intrigued, then raises his glass> Cheers.
Selek
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Hypatia Kosh
"dunyazad9" wrote:
>
> I'm sorry my story upset you so much, Sannahelina. If you would like
> to read a follow-up story showing that Kirk and Spock did indeed get
> back together and the author of "Terminus" got what she deserved,
> here is a link to it.
> www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/6523/ontrial.txt. It's called "On
> Trial." (I, the author, am the one on trial.) Rest assured that in
> the "universe" in which "Terminus" is set, just as in the "real" Star
> Trek universe, the two characters got back together, served together
> on the Enterprise, and lived happily ever after.
I thought this story was great! I liked Terminus but also hated the
ending. It is canon, but I sort of had trouble fitting that in with
the following movies. I mean, if they can't serve together, WHY ARE
THEY SERVING TOGETHER?
Um, sorry. Got a little carried away <sheathing bloody sword>.
Terminus was a beautiful story even if it has a tragic ending. I sort
of came up with a "solution" where Kirk can't face Sarek after failing
to get Spock back from Gol, so he goes over to the facility where
Spock stayed for the previous month and they recognize him as Spock's
bondmate and T'Lau decides to tell him the truth. So Kirk and T'Lau go
back to Gol (T'Lau comes to vouch for Kirk) and Kirk convinces Spock
to come home. So then K & S go meet Spock's parents as a couple and
then they go back to Starfleet and Nogura can just suck it up. Anyway,
it made me feel better about seeing them seperated like that.
I'd vote to see more of your stories on this forum, if that's possible
(hint, hint).
(Well, at least
> until the events of "Generations," which I've never really been able
> to accept as canon.)
Generations = abomination
It scared the wits out of my little brother James. It was a lousy
movie. It was unfair to Classic Trek. Leonard Nimoy was right to
refuse a part in that movie.
But it did have "Mr. Tricorder" and the "Lifeforms" song. That was
cool.
Hypatia
athena_sappho at yahoo.com
Life-FORMS! You pretty little Life-FORMS!
Play it again!
dunyazad9
> I thought this story was great! I liked Terminus but also hated the
> ending. It is canon, but I sort of had trouble fitting that in with
> the following movies. I mean, if they can't serve together, WHY ARE
> THEY SERVING TOGETHER?
>
> Um, sorry. Got a little carried away <sheathing bloody sword>.
Thanks for putting that thing away, Hypatia <g>. The answer to your
question is, I think, a very canonical one: At the beginning of The
Wrath of Khan, Kirk and Spock *weren't* serving together. And I can
see no reason, based on the evidence in TWOK, that Kirk and Spock had
served together at any time between the end of ST:TMP and the events
of TWOK -- about ten years.
Without giving away anything I've written or may write under the
rubric of sequels to "Terminus," I think the following scenario is a
plausible K/S reading of the movie part of canon. Kirk and Spock
separated at the end of the five year mission because they could not
serve together as lovers and bondmates. Spock went to Gol to purge
himself of his attachment to Kirk. He did not succeed. The events of
ST:TMP gave Kirk another chance to make the correct choice between
his command and his love for Spock. This time, he chose Spock.
Between ST:TMP and ST:TWOK, Kirk served at headquarters in a ground
assignment while Spock served as head of field training or clinical
training or whatever you want to call training cadets in Starship
duty. (Note that I do not advocate as an orthodox position that Kirk,
given a clear and informed choice between Spock and his command,
would choose Spock -- or that he would choose command. I'm sure a
plausible story could be written either way.)
In any case, by the time of STV and STVI, the pair were serving
together again on the Enterprise. So obviously something had happened
to make this possible. I have my own hypothesis; one of these days
I'll write it and post it to ASCEM. In the meantime, all I can say
is: Many such journeys are possible. Many persuasive stories can be
written in which Kirk chooses between Spock and a starship command.
Judith
Kaki
>
> In any case, by the time of STV and STVI, the pair were serving
> together again on the Enterprise. So obviously something had happened
> to make this possible. I have my own hypothesis; one of these days
> I'll write it and post it to ASCEM.
please, please :)
Greywolf the Wanderer
> --- In ASCEML@y..., Greywolf the Wanderer <greywolf@s...> wrote:
>
> > <Hands you a glass of a decent dry Fetzer chardonnay> Howzat? I
> remember this being fairly decent plonk. But hey, I ain't no highness or
> nothing -- just Romany chal, teller of tall tales. Ye can run away if ye
> like, but why not stick around a bit?
> >
> > Up to you, lassie. ;-)>
> >
> > Greywolf
>
> <holds the delicate crystal glass with trembling hands, trying hard not to
> faint at Greywolf's feet or to start blathering about how much she loves
> his stories>
<blushes all green under his fur> Aw, hell, I'm just me. Nothin' fancy. If
my words have pleased ye, thank the Muse -- 's what I do. Boy and how!
> It seems that I am stuck here, so I guess I could just as well relax and
> enjoy this. Thanks again for welcoming me. (Thanks to Selek, too.)
Yer welcome, lass. We all gotta start someplace...
> Sanahelina
> ---
> The week before Christmas is often a quiet one in a funeral parlour, Shadow
> learned, over supper. -- 'The lingering ones are holding on for one final
> Christmas,' said Mr Ibis, 'or even for New Year's, while the others, the
> ones for whom other people's jollity and celebration will prove too
> painful, have not yet been tipped over the edge by that last showing of
> _It's a Wonderful Life_, have not quite encountered the final straw, or
> should I say, the final _sprig of holly_ that breaks not the camel's but
> the _reindeer's_ back.'
>
> Neil Gaiman: American Gods
Awesome .sig, lass. I adore Gaiman, and American Gods totally fucking
rocks. Besides, I ain't too keen on the fuggin' "holiday season" meself.
Always makes me bummed and grouchy. Every year, I heave a great sigh of
relief when January 2nd rolls around and we're done with that crap for
another year. Feh!
Greywolf the Grinch ;-)>
--
As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must
be aware of change in the air -- however slight -lest we become unwitting
victims of the darkness.
-- Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75)
sanahelina
> Awesome .sig, lass. I adore Gaiman, and American Gods totally
fucking
> rocks. Besides, I ain't too keen on the fuggin' "holiday season"
meself.
> Always makes me bummed and grouchy. Every year, I heave a great
sigh of
> relief when January 2nd rolls around and we're done with that crap
for
> another year. Feh!
I don't know if it's possible to read Gaiman and not to adore him.
His interpretation of "A Midsummer Night's Dream"! And that awesome
episode of Babylon 5, "Day of the Dead". Why, oh why doesn't he write
Star Trek?
I had such a lovely Christmas: I found "Morning Dew" yesterday and
spent the whole day reading it. Today at work I just kept smiling
blissfully to annoying clients. They looked a bit puzzled and I
couldn't help wondering what they would look like if they knew *why*
I was smiling...
Sanahelina
Greywolf the Wanderer
> --- In ASCEML@y..., Greywolf the Wanderer <greywolf@s...> wrote:
>
> > Awesome .sig, lass. I adore Gaiman, and American Gods totally fucking
> rocks. Besides, I ain't too keen on the fuggin' "holiday season" meself.
> Always makes me bummed and grouchy. Every year, I heave a great sigh of
> relief when January 2nd rolls around and we're done with that crap
> for another year. Feh!
>
> I don't know if it's possible to read Gaiman and not to adore him. His
> interpretation of "A Midsummer Night's Dream"!
Not to mention "The Tempest", or the story line about Hob Gadling, or...
well, you know. Mmm, such a writer we all should be, nu?
> And that awesome episode of Babylon 5, "Day of the Dead".
Didn't know he wrote an ep for them! Hmm, have to watch out for it now.
which season was it in? Scifi channel is running B5 right now, mon-thu at
7pm...
> Why, oh why doesn't he write Star Trek?
Cos he knows Berman's a fucking hack? Heh heh...
> I had such a lovely Christmas: I found "Morning Dew" yesterday and spent
> the whole day reading it. Today at work I just kept smiling blissfully to
> annoying clients. They looked a bit puzzled and I couldn't help wondering
> what they would look like if they knew *why* I was smiling...
<blushes all green again> I am honoured to have been of service. <bows,
grins, blushes some more>
> Sanahelina
GreywolfdeVulCheq
sanahelina
> > And that awesome episode of Babylon 5, "Day of the Dead".
>
> Didn't know he wrote an ep for them! Hmm, have to watch out for it
now.
> which season was it in? Scifi channel is running B5 right now, mon-
thu at
> 7pm...
Season Five, episode 8, episode # 96, production # 511. Gaiman
himself described it: "It's a ghost story about religion, or a drama
about comedy and the nature of metaphor, or something like that."
It's just breathtaking - poignant and humorous, with Emily Dickinson
quotes, and Penn & Teller. I had it on video tape and I watched it
over and over again, until my husband half-accidentally erased it.
(There is no hope of re-runs where I live, both B5 and TOS have been
aired only once in my lifetime.)
><blushes all green again> I am honoured to have been of service.
<bows,
> grins, blushes some more>
You sure do blush a lot, being the big bad wolf that you are..? <grin>
Sanahelina ;o)
Mary Ellen Curtin
> himself described it: "It's a ghost story about religion, or a drama
> about comedy and the nature of metaphor, or something like that."
Not to mention the barely-sub subtext of both m/m and f/f slash.
Yumsky to the nth degree.
Mary Ellen
Doctor Science, MA
http://www.eclipse.net/~mecurtin/au/
Alternate Universes: Fanfiction Studies
http://www.eclipse.net/~mecurtin/foresmut/
The Foresmutters Project
Rae
Year and finds 409 messages waiting... ye gods.
Greywolf the Wanderer wrote:
> > I don't know if it's possible to read Gaiman and not to adore him. His
> > interpretation of "A Midsummer Night's Dream"!
>
> Not to mention "The Tempest", or the story line about Hob Gadling, or...
> well, you know. Mmm, such a writer we all should be, nu?
Gods, yes. If I could write like him I'd be a happy happy girl indeed.
For me one of the most beautiful was "The Sound Of Her Wings". The
discussion of Mary Poppins is, of course, utterly cute, and like most
people I fell in love with Death on sight, but the rest of the story has
such a beauty and elegance to it - which even the artwork carries
through, which makes it even better.
> > Why, oh why doesn't he write Star Trek?
>
> Cos he knows Berman's a fucking hack? Heh heh...
He has class?
Had he been thirty years older, I reckon ol' Neil would probably have
written for TOS. His style's not suited to TNG, but he could have
written a kickarse Voyager script if it weren't for the fact that TPTB
are fuckwits now.
Rae G
and oh, what might have been