Is RPS allowed?

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Hypatia Kosh

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Apr 15, 2003, 8:55:09 AM4/15/03
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I'm pretty close to writing a William Shatner/Kirk slash story, and I was
wondering if that sort of thing was allowed on this ng/ml, or not.

Thanks in advance,

Hypatia


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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "Hypatia Kosh" <berli@m...> wrote:
> I'm pretty close to writing a William Shatner/Kirk slash story, and
I was
> wondering if that sort of thing was allowed on this ng/ml, or not.

No idea, but I find it pretty weird that you can't watch K/S art
because you see Shatner/Nimoy in it, and then want to write RPS ;))

Birgit

Ruth Gifford

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Apr 15, 2003, 8:55:10 AM4/15/03
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At 10:36 AM 4/15/2003 +0000, Hypatia Kosh wrote:
>I'm pretty close to writing a William Shatner/Kirk slash story, and I was
>wondering if that sort of thing was allowed on this ng/ml, or not.

Of course I can't answer this one anymore, but if anyone cares about irony
and all that, back when I maintained the FAQ that was about the only thing
you couldn't post. The irony here is that not only do I write it, but I
co-modded the RPS panel at Escapade and I'm in the process of setting up a
kinky RPS RPG.

People change, oh yeah.

*grins*

Ruth

PS no I don't write Trek actors. Well not so far.

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Alara Rogers

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Apr 15, 2003, 12:55:01 PM4/15/03
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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "Hypatia Kosh" <berli@m...> wrote:
> I'm pretty close to writing a William Shatner/Kirk slash story, and
I was
> wondering if that sort of thing was allowed on this ng/ml, or not.

Everything's allowed. We've had stories about 13-year-olds having sex
with 18-year-olds. The moderation is just to remove spam.

That being said I personally find that concept unbearably icky and
hope you will appropriately disclaimer it.

k one of seven

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Apr 15, 2003, 6:55:03 PM4/15/03
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once upon a time, perhaps in the ascem archives i read a nice parallel universe story: Kirk fights w/ Spock, then the transporter accident lands him in the TV studio shooting Star Trek (switching places with Shatner).

Nimoy tries to help Kirk out and the usual hilarity ensues.

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Ruth Gifford

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Apr 15, 2003, 6:55:05 PM4/15/03
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At 09:27 PM 4/15/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, k one of seven <k1of7@y...> wrote:
> >
> > once upon a time, perhaps in the ascem archives i read a nice parallel
> universe story: Kirk fights w/ Spock, then the transporter accident lands
> him in the TV studio shooting Star Trek (switching places with Shatner).
> >
> > Nimoy tries to help Kirk out and the usual hilarity ensues.
>
>I myself have pondered writing humor to the effect of, Shat & Kirk
>switch places randomly [anomaly? Q? Q-thru-Farfalla again? ;-)] and
>Shatner wakes up in bed with Spock (both of whom freak out, of
>course...)
>
>I think Hy's question was more 'bout Real Person *slash* as opposed to
>just writing fic about the actors. Since, well, you know. *giggle*


There is, of course, a published piece of RPF (Real Person Fiction as
opposed to Real Person Slash) in one of the really early New Voyages fan
anthologies published in the '70s. It's called "Visit to a Strange Planet
Revisited" and it's the story of what happens when a freak transporter
accident sends Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley tot he Enterprise. it's
apparently a mirror to another fan tale which tells what happened to Kirk,
Spock and McCoy on the set. Never read the later, but the former was
pretty good if I recall correctly (and yes I still kick myself for getting
rid of those books). Wacky hijinks ensued.

Ruth


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Farfalla

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Apr 15, 2003, 6:55:04 PM4/15/03
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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, k one of seven <k1of7@y...> wrote:
>
> once upon a time, perhaps in the ascem archives i read a nice parallel universe story: Kirk fights w/ Spock, then the transporter accident lands him in the TV studio shooting Star Trek (switching places with Shatner).
>
> Nimoy tries to help Kirk out and the usual hilarity ensues.

I myself have pondered writing humor to the effect of, Shat & Kirk

switch places randomly [anomaly? Q? Q-thru-Farfalla again? ;-)] and
Shatner wakes up in bed with Spock (both of whom freak out, of
course...)

I think Hy's question was more 'bout Real Person *slash* as opposed to
just writing fic about the actors. Since, well, you know. *giggle*

~Farfalla

Hypatia Kosh

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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "syredronning" <a.q@g...> wrote:
> --- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "Hypatia Kosh" <berli@m...> wrote:
> > I'm pretty close to writing a William Shatner/Kirk slash story, and
> I was
> > wondering if that sort of thing was allowed on this ng/ml, or not.
>
> No idea, but I find it pretty weird that you can't watch K/S art
> because you see Shatner/Nimoy in it, and then want to write RPS ;))

Who said I was RPSing Shatner with Nimoy?

Ewwww.

-Hy

J. Juls

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Apr 16, 2003, 12:55:03 AM4/16/03
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There was a Patrick Stewart smut here a while back. It was het, but I don't
see a big difference.

Julie

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> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:36 AM
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> Subject: [ASCEML] Is RPS allowed?
>
>
> I'm pretty close to writing a William Shatner/Kirk slash story, and I was
> wondering if that sort of thing was allowed on this ng/ml, or not.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Hypatia
>
>
>

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Ruth Gifford

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Apr 16, 2003, 12:55:06 AM4/16/03
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At 03:46 AM 4/16/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>Ruth Gifford wrote:
> > There is, of course, a published piece of RPF (Real Person Fiction as
> > opposed to Real Person Slash) in one of the really early New Voyages fan
> > anthologies published in the '70s. It's called "Visit to a Strange Planet
> > Revisited" and it's the story of what happens when a freak transporter
> > accident sends Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley tot he Enterprise. it's
> > apparently a mirror to another fan tale which tells what happened to Kirk,
> > Spock and McCoy on the set. Never read the later, but the former was
> > pretty good if I recall correctly (and yes I still kick myself for getting
> > rid of those books). Wacky hijinks ensued.
>
>Yeah, that was my favorite story in the New Voyages books (the second
>favorite being Ni Var). The first story was published in Spockanalia #5.
>That really annoyed me because I had no way of getting it (especially in
>1995, when I was in high school!). After all this time, dammit, I wish
>more of the vintage stuff were online.

Go ahead and make me feel old. I read New Voyages I & II and Price of the
Phoenix in high school too. In '77 when they first came out. I had the
Corgi editions because we lived in Iran at the time and ended up with the
British editions of most things. And yeah they were running TOS on the
English language channel in Tehran. Kinda surreal, but that's when I got
hooked.:-)

>Although the author of Ni Var, Claire Gabriel, has an entire Spock/f novel
>online. It's pretty good.

I remember when I first came to asfs (yes in '95 when you were in high
school, Hy) there wasn't a whole lot of TOS TrekSmut online. One of the
best things about ascem was that a lot of TOS writers showed up to play. I
still remember being very happy about that.

Ruth


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Hypatia Kosh

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Apr 16, 2003, 12:55:05 AM4/16/03
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Ruth Gifford wrote:
> There is, of course, a published piece of RPF (Real Person Fiction as
> opposed to Real Person Slash) in one of the really early New Voyages fan
> anthologies published in the '70s. It's called "Visit to a Strange Planet
> Revisited" and it's the story of what happens when a freak transporter
> accident sends Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley tot he Enterprise. it's
> apparently a mirror to another fan tale which tells what happened to Kirk,
> Spock and McCoy on the set. Never read the later, but the former was
> pretty good if I recall correctly (and yes I still kick myself for getting
> rid of those books). Wacky hijinks ensued.

Yeah, that was my favorite story in the New Voyages books (the second favorite being Ni Var). The first story was published in Spockanalia #5. That really annoyed me because I had no way of getting it (especially in 1995, when I was in high school!). After all this time, dammit, I wish more of the vintage stuff were online.

Although the author of Ni Var, Claire Gabriel, has an entire Spock/f novel online. It's pretty good.

-Hy

James Richard Sheldon

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Apr 16, 2003, 8:55:02 AM4/16/03
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How about a story slashing the Galaxyquest charactres with their trek
equivalents?

James

On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Hypatia Kosh wrote:

> --- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "syredronning" <a.q@g...> wrote:
> > --- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "Hypatia Kosh" <berli@m...> wrote:
> > > I'm pretty close to writing a William Shatner/Kirk slash story, and
> > I was
> > > wondering if that sort of thing was allowed on this ng/ml, or not.
> >
> > No idea, but I find it pretty weird that you can't watch K/S art
> > because you see Shatner/Nimoy in it, and then want to write RPS ;))
>
> Who said I was RPSing Shatner with Nimoy?
>
> Ewwww.
>
> -Hy
>
>
>

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rae trail

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruth Gifford" <tele...@worldnet.att.net>
> There is, of course, a published piece of RPF (Real Person Fiction
as
> opposed to Real Person Slash) in one of the really early New Voyages
fan
> anthologies published in the '70s. It's called "Visit to a Strange
Planet
> Revisited" and it's the story of what happens when a freak
transporter
> accident sends Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley tot he Enterprise. it's
> apparently a mirror to another fan tale which tells what happened to
Kirk,
> Spock and McCoy on the set. Never read the later, but the former
was
> pretty good if I recall correctly (and yes I still kick myself for
getting
> rid of those books). Wacky hijinks ensued.
>
> Ruth

I love that story. It's in New Voyages 1, and it's quite funny. Not
slashy, of course. I had a copy of 'Visit to a Weird Planet' years
back, but it went into the black hole that most of my stuff falls
into. I actually found New Voyages at the yacht club exchange
library, and stole it, LOL, having left my copy back in Canada.

Think I'll go read it!

Rae

"I have one job on this ship, it's stupid, but I'm going to do it!"
Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest"
www.allslash.org is my main home

Hypatia Kosh

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James Richard Sheldon wrote:
> How about a story slashing the Galaxyquest charactres with their trek
> equivalents?

William Shatner and Chevy Chase: battle of the divas!

-Hy

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syredronning

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Apr 16, 2003, 8:55:07 AM4/16/03
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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "Hypatia Kosh" <berli@m...> wrote:
> Who said I was RPSing Shatner with Nimoy?

Honestly, no matter whom you pair any RP with, I can't understand
your problems with the art, but thinking about writing something like
that at the same time.

I've read only one good RP smut piece once, and it was a Beatles'
one. Very nicely done, and very funny. But as long as I can use
characters to play with, I wouldn't write RPS about living persons (I
might write about dead ones). And I think as actor I wouldn't like to
see such stuff either. Parody excepted, if well done.

Birgit

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Hypatia Kosh

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Apr 16, 2003, 8:55:07 AM4/16/03
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syredronning wrote:
> And I think as actor I wouldn't like to
> see such stuff either.

Well, if you think William Shatner reads this list, you've got another thing coming.

Seriously, even if he *did* find out I posted a story insinuating that he has
subconscious bisexual urges, he ought to be man enough to laugh it off. Laugh,
Shat, laugh!

-Hy

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Farfalla

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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "Hypatia Kosh" <berli@m...>
wrote:
> syredronning wrote:
> > And I think as actor I wouldn't like to
> > see such stuff either.
>
> Well, if you think William Shatner reads this list, you've got
another thing coming.

You're making my brain spin. Stop giving me evil ideas *grin*

> Seriously, even if he *did* find out I posted a story insinuating
that he has
> subconscious bisexual urges, he ought to be man enough to
laugh it off. Laugh,
> Shat, laugh!

Unless he really does. Then he'd be pissed, at least externally.

~Farfalla,
Forget the plant, darting straight into the soil

rae trail

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From: "James Richard Sheldon" <jshe...@cats.ucsc.edu>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ASCEML] Re: Is RPS allowed?


> How about a story slashing the Galaxyquest charactres with their
trek
> equivalents?
>
> James

Oh, god, this is the funniest idea I've heard in a long time. That
Alan Rickman character... what was his name, slashed with Spock! LOL!
But who on the Enterprise would you match to Sigourney "Tawny" Weaver?

I won't be the one to do it, though. I keep thinking of Rickman and
Allen in a Rude Person type story.

Rae

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Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest"
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rae trail

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From: "James Richard Sheldon" <jshe...@cats.ucsc.edu>


> Was she one who repeated everything the computer said? I saw that
as a
> spoof of Uhura and her limited role on TOS.
>
> James

Yes. She was the only one the computer would listen to, and she
repeated whatever the computer said (see my sig. line) I agree with
your assesment of her as a spoof of Uhura, but for some reason the
thought of Uhura and Tawny together squicks me. Don't know why.
Maybe it's just my own inability to do f/f slash. So that would be
Taggart/Kirk, Tawny Madison(?)/Uhura, Fred whatshisname/Scott
(ohohohohoh!! Too funny!) and the Rickman Character/Spock, The Young
Black Dude/Sulu (or Chekov), and Guy/Any Red Shirt... does that cover
it?

Rae


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Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest"

James Richard Sheldon

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Was she one who repeated everything the computer said? I saw that as a
spoof of Uhura and her limited role on TOS.

James

On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, rae trail wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Richard Sheldon" <jshe...@cats.ucsc.edu>
> To: <ASC...@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [ASCEML] Re: Is RPS allowed?
>
>
> > How about a story slashing the Galaxyquest charactres with their
> trek
> > equivalents?
> >
> > James
>
> Oh, god, this is the funniest idea I've heard in a long time. That
> Alan Rickman character... what was his name, slashed with Spock! LOL!
> But who on the Enterprise would you match to Sigourney "Tawny" Weaver?
>
> I won't be the one to do it, though. I keep thinking of Rickman and
> Allen in a Rude Person type story.
>
> Rae
>
> "I have one job on this ship, it's stupid, but I'm going to do it!"
> Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest"
> www.allslash.org is my main home
>
> >
>
>
>
>

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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "rae trail" <raetrail@y...> wrote:
So that would be
> Taggart/Kirk, Tawny Madison(?)/Uhura, Fred whatshisname/Scott
> (ohohohohoh!! Too funny!) and the Rickman Character/Spock,

Rickman character is Dr. Lazarus <g>

Saya, who still reads those rickmaniacs' lists with mild amusement
(and sometimes with sheer horror <g>) and they were just talking about
Galaxy Quest...

James Richard Sheldon

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I'm not sure I'd be erotically aroused by an NC-17 Uhura/Tawny, but I'd
definitely be amused.

Hmm, I can just see the computer taking what they say during sex as a
command... Not quite sure how to set that up though.

James

On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, rae trail wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Richard Sheldon" <jshe...@cats.ucsc.edu>
>
>
> > Was she one who repeated everything the computer said? I saw that
> as a
> > spoof of Uhura and her limited role on TOS.
> >
> > James
>
> Yes. She was the only one the computer would listen to, and she
> repeated whatever the computer said (see my sig. line) I agree with
> your assesment of her as a spoof of Uhura, but for some reason the
> thought of Uhura and Tawny together squicks me. Don't know why.
> Maybe it's just my own inability to do f/f slash. So that would be
> Taggart/Kirk, Tawny Madison(?)/Uhura, Fred whatshisname/Scott
> (ohohohohoh!! Too funny!) and the Rickman Character/Spock, The Young
> Black Dude/Sulu (or Chekov), and Guy/Any Red Shirt... does that cover
> it?
>
> Rae
>
>
> "I have one job on this ship, it's stupid, but I'm going to do it!"
> Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest"
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Richard Sheldon" <jshe...@cats.ucsc.edu>

> I'm not sure I'd be erotically aroused by an NC-17 Uhura/Tawny, but
I'd
> definitely be amused.
>
> Hmm, I can just see the computer taking what they say during sex as
a
> command... Not quite sure how to set that up though.
>
> James
>

Yes. The problem now becomes, do slash Tawny/Uhura, or do you slash
Gwen DeMarco/Uhura. Likewise, do you slash Lazarus/Spock or
Alexander/Spock, etc. The first level of character, or the Galaxy
Quest character?

Ouch,
Rae

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Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest"

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czb (Chris)

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Apr 16, 2003, 6:55:08 PM4/16/03
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> How about a story slashing the Galaxyquest charactres with
their
trek
> equivalents?
>
> James

<<Oh, god, this is the funniest idea I've heard in a long time.
That
Alan Rickman character... what was his name, slashed with Spock!
LOL!
But who on the Enterprise would you match to Sigourney "Tawny"
Weaver?>>

Nobody on the Enterprise. I'd slash her with Jenna Stannis from
Blake's Seven. GalaxyQuest wasn't only about Trek, after all. ;-)

Chris

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> > How about a story slashing the Galaxyquest charactres with
> their
> trek
> > equivalents?
> >
> > James
>
> <<Oh, god, this is the funniest idea I've heard in a long time.

Oh, yes! This is much too good to let go!

> But who on the Enterprise would you match to Sigourney "Tawny"
> Weaver?>>

I think of Tawny as an UhuraxRand hybrid, so I see that as a
threesome. Maybe not erotic, but it sure does sound pretty.

But as for me, my mind screams for Kirk/Taggart.

Thinking hard,
~Lyra
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J. Juls

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Apr 16, 2003, 8:55:02 PM4/16/03
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rae trail [mailto:raet...@yahoo.ca]
> Oh, god, this is the funniest idea I've heard in a long time. That
> Alan Rickman character... what was his name, slashed with Spock! LOL!
> But who on the Enterprise would you match to Sigourney "Tawny" Weaver?
>

She'd either have to be Rand or Troi. And the kid would have to be either
Geordi or Wesley.

Julie

Farfalla

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Apr 17, 2003, 8:55:02 AM4/17/03
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--- In ASC...@yahoogroups.com, "rae trail" <raetrail@y...> wrote:

> Yes. The problem now becomes, do slash Tawny/Uhura, or do you slash
> Gwen DeMarco/Uhura. Likewise, do you slash Lazarus/Spock or
> Alexander/Spock, etc. The first level of character, or the Galaxy
> Quest character?


MY BRAIN!!!!! (owie)

~Farf,
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