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islao...@aol.com

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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Hafital,

Oh, yes! Another good reason why "Generations" isn't such a bad
movie. Well, it's a sucky movie, but it's spawned some really great
fanfic.

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After all, if TPTB didn't get Kirk trapped in the Nexus, how could
you set up this fab romantic story where Kirk escapes from the Nexus
to rescue Spock from the firing squad?

I've always been annoyed that in "Generations" there was no evidence
that Spock even cared about Kirk being trapped in the Nexus. After
all, Kirk brought Spock back from the dead saying, "You'd do the same
for me." Apparently not, but here you have an explanation. Spock
really thought Kirk died. He could no longer "feel" Kirk, so he had
to believe that he was really gone.

I was intrigued by your description of Kirk working w/ the forces of
the Nexus until he could control it enough to travel outside.
Interesting that Picard could do it w/out practice, but I think he
had Guinan's help. I really liked the fact that Kirk recognized how
seductive it was to stay in the Nexus, but decided that it was better
to be alone than fantasize being w/ someone who wasn't real. Being
w/ a Spock who wasn't real would be a comfort for only a brief time.
I thought about Killa's story "Ghost in the Mirror," and how
heartbreaking it was that Spock wanted to love Kirk, but when he knew
Kirk wasn't real, he realized how foolish it would be.

But wonderful that Kirk figured out *why* Spock appeared on his empty
Enterprise. Spock needed him. So, he figured out how to go to Spock.

I don't doubt that when Kirk appeared at Spock's execution that for a
moment Spock assumed that he was dead and in heaven. <g>

And those Romulans are not such bad folks after all. Wonderful that
they put them in the same cell together.

I loved their conversation. Getting caught up on what Spock had been
up to. But it blew me away when Kirk started to get scared that
Spock wasn't real, and Spock realized it. I loved that their
touching each other grew out of Spock's knowledge that Kirk needed
reassurance.

As always, your descriptions of their lovemaking were wonderful! I
think I enjoyed the second bout the next day even more than the first
time. But both were wonderful. And I enjoyed the conversation where
Kirk regretted that they hadn't been physically intimate before. I
liked Spock's answer to that. They had always loved each other, but
the time wasn't right. The non-physical love of the past led them to
this point. I like that better than the idea that they'd always
wanted each other, and been afraid to speak.

I really enjoyed Kirk deciding that he was going to rescue Spock and
being totally sure he could pull it off even when he didn't have a
plan. And darned if he didn't succeed.

The last scene was heartbreaking. I can only imagine how shattering
it was for Spock to get on that shuttle and leave Kirk to die alone.
He had to trust that Kirk would come back from the dead again to be
with him, but how hard that must have been.

Wonderful story, Hafital. Thank you for sharing it w/ us.

Isla

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hafital

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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islao...@aol.com wrote:


> Hafital,
>
> Oh, yes! Another good reason why "Generations" isn't such a bad
> movie. Well, it's a sucky movie, but it's spawned some really great
> fanfic.

<g> That it did.

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> s
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> p
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> l
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> e
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> r
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> s

> As always, your descriptions of their lovemaking were wonderful! I
> think I enjoyed the second bout the next day even more than the first
> time. But both were wonderful. And I enjoyed the conversation where
> Kirk regretted that they hadn't been physically intimate before. I
> liked Spock's answer to that. They had always loved each other, but
> the time wasn't right. The non-physical love of the past led them to
> this point. I like that better than the idea that they'd always
> wanted each other, and been afraid to speak.

Hm, sometimes it works, that unrequited love thing, but it can be rather
melodramatic. Nothing wrong with a little melodrama though, on occasion.

For this story, it worked better if they looked forward instead of backwards.
No use beating yourself up over something that's done, gone, and over with,
now is there. <g>

I tend to like the notion that physical love between these two is just the
cherry on top, so to speak.


>
> I really enjoyed Kirk deciding that he was going to rescue Spock and
> being totally sure he could pull it off even when he didn't have a
> plan. And darned if he didn't succeed.

Just like Kirk, rushing where angels fear to tread...


>
> The last scene was heartbreaking.

Yes it is.

I can only imagine how shattering
> it was for Spock to get on that shuttle and leave Kirk to die alone.
> He had to trust that Kirk would come back from the dead again to be
> with him, but how hard that must have been.

Hm, he had no choice, really. I don't think Kirk would have forgiven him, if
he died.

>
> Wonderful story, Hafital. Thank you for sharing it w/ us.

Yer welcome! Thank you for the lovely feedback, Isla dear.

hafital

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islao...@aol.com

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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--- In ASC...@egroups.com, hafital <hafital@u...> wrote:

<snip>

>
> I tend to like the notion that physical love between these two is
just the
> cherry on top, so to speak.

** yes, I totally agree! I love good K&S as much as I love good K/S.
**

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> >
> > The last scene was heartbreaking.
>
> Yes it is.
>
> I can only imagine how shattering
> > it was for Spock to get on that shuttle and leave Kirk to die
alone.
> > He had to trust that Kirk would come back from the dead again to
be
> > with him, but how hard that must have been.
>
> Hm, he had no choice, really. I don't think Kirk would have
forgiven him, if
> he died.

*** true. But still wrenching to let Kirk die alone after having him
back for only a couple of days after losing him for 80 years.

Isla **

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