accusation of plagiarism and a rant...opinions requested
raku
Regarding reuse of dialog: In stories where I've used dialog from an ep
verbatim, I've added a note somewhere in that story or in that segment of
story just to make sure everyone else knows that I know it's not my
original writing. I dunno if it's necessary, but it makes me feel more
up-front. I've also added notes where I've done something odd with a
plot--reused scenarios, or radically altered a storyline--just so the
reader is clued in what's up. I've seen others do these things also, just
for the sake of happy readers.
As for plagiarism, normally that's construed as representing another's
*work* as your own: as if you posted the screenplay for "Amok Time," for
example, and claimed you were the writer. That's not exactly the same
thing as copyright infringement, which is more similar to using a piece of
someone else's work without suitable acknowledgement or payment (like the
lawsuit that Kinko's lost a couple years back, after they photocopied all
sorts of pieces of books and articles without either getting permission to
do so or paying royalties for what they copied). Kinko's wasn't
representing the pieces of work as their own--they were using someone
else's works and getting paid for it without in turn passing any of that
payment on.
But y'know there's a fair bit of litigation that goes on regarding
plagiarism, because it does tend to involve judgment as to what's a
legitimate use (parody, quotation, minor borrowing, literary reference,
etc.) and what isn't. I've been interested by how much "sampling" is
tolerated in the music industry--it always sounds like unimaginative theft
to me. YMMV.
raku
PS some posters may remember a situation maybe 2 years ago when someone was
taking entire stories from the ASCEM archive and re-posting them elsewhere,
changing the authors' names and then claiming authorship. I think some
were also de-Trekked in the process. Those would be instances of
plagiarism.
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raku
DeG. give them free toasters? I forget just how the quote goes...
Makes me wanna send over a few of Robin L's Rude Trek Stories, with deeply
unwholesome and completely fun lesbians.
raku
> [Original Message]
> From: J. Juls <jj...@tbc.net>
> To: <ASC...@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 11/13/01 2:31:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [ASCEML] accusation of plagerism and a rant...opinions
requested
>
> Dang, you mean lesbians aren't wholesome? Hmmm. BTW, plagiarism.
Sorry, I
> had to spell it.
>
> (I can't quite stop giggling about anyone who's so uptight and has a
fanfic
> list.)
>
> Julie
mgt...@juno.com
> PS some posters may remember a situation maybe 2 years ago when
someone was
> taking entire stories from the ASCEM archive and re-posting them
elsewhere,
> changing the authors' names and then claiming authorship. I think
some
> were also de-Trekked in the process. Those would be instances of
> plagiarism.
There's been a recent similar occurrence with an X-Files story being
Stargate SG-1-ized and submitted to an SG-1 archive. Apparently the
plagiarism was quite blatant. When the archivist was notified of the
plagiarism, xe immediately took down the story. The name/pen-
name/alias of the alleged plagiarist was never publicized. I guess
in our anonymous online world, it wouldn't help much to warn everyone
off of this person, when it's so easy to simply take on another
pseudonym.
EmGee
Sweetv...@aol.com
mgt...@juno.com writes:
> --- In ASCEML@y..., "raku" <raku2u@e...> wrote:
> > PS some posters may remember a situation maybe 2 years ago when
> someone was
> > taking entire stories from the ASCEM archive and reposting them
> elsewhere,
> > changing the authors' names and then claiming authorship. I think
> some
> > were also DE-Trekked in the process. Those would be instances of
> > plagiarism.
>
> There's been a recent similar occurrence with an X-Files story being
> Stargate SG-1-ized and submitted to an SG-1 archive. Apparently the
> plagiarism was quite blatant. When the archivist was notified of the
> plagiarism, xe immediately took down the story. The name/pen-name/alias of
> the alleged plagiarist was never publicized. I guess
> in our anonymous online world, it wouldn't help much to warn everyone
> off of this person, when it's so easy to simply take on another
> pseudonym.
>
> EmGee
>
It happened in the Lois and Clark(Superman) last summer. A girl by Melissa
Diss plagiarized several stories in the L&C, Law & Order and X - Files
fandoms for a quite a few years and posted them as "Blue Heelers" (An
Australian show from what I gather) fanfiction. Even copied verbatim one
author's thank you notes. She has since been taken down the Blue Heelers
archive and been publicly embarrassed since her RL picture was with her
profile.
Juliet (Proud American)
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